And here it is.... There were 5 or more RINOs threatening to leave congress, right now, if Johnson didn't approve funding for the war in Ukraine... If those 5 stepped down today the house majority would
change hands and in doings so the Democrats would have the majority.

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic. I get it now. But what's worth more: a house majority, or Trump for president?

The reason I ask this is because I'm concerned that Ukraine will use the money to interfere in our presidential election.

I don't see the house majority as important anymore. Why didn't Johnson (or other house members) at least insist on oversight? If we had that, then we'd be able to tackle the issue of Ukraine interfering in our election.

Alternatively, they should have demanded that President Biden hold a meeting with Putin and Zelenski to discuss a resolution. Or make a clause that permits the USA to search Ukraine for bioweapons labs. But no, we got nothing.

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On 22 Apr 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic. I get it now. But what's worth more: a house majority, or Trump for president?

I just think we need to limp along to November. Old Speaker McCarthy set a precedent by running away like a coward before ending his term and obligation to his constituents, he knew what he was doing when he did it and it gave other RINOs the idea.

I don't see the house majority as important anymore. Why didn't Johnson (or other house members) at least insist on oversight? If we had that, then we'd be able to tackle the issue of Ukraine interfering in our election.

The Uni-Party will have control for the next few months... Oversight is a Joke... They write impeachment articles and the Democrats, first time in history, blow them off and don't hold a trial. The powers to be in Ukraine are too busy embezzling and paying the mechanism their share... Joe gets his 10% of course.

Alternatively, they should have demanded that President Biden hold a meeting with Putin and Zelenski to discuss a resolution. Or make a
clause that permits the USA to search Ukraine for bioweapons labs. But
no, we got nothing.

There will be a resolution, at some point, and the war will end. Ukraine will give up a few things... Like the Russian speaking part... and life will go on like nothing ever happened... Other than 100s of billions of dollars spent... Millions of lives lost... and the War machine will try to find an other scab to pick!!!

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I just think we need to limp along to November. Old Speaker McCarthy
set a precedent by running away like a coward before ending his term and obligation to his constituents, he knew what he was doing when he did it and it gave other RINOs the idea.

Mike Johnson probably has a knife to his throat every day just like all the other Republicans. George Soros will eat him for dinner if he doesn't vote for that Ukraine aid.

They are all full of it. All of congress. They go in with a good heart, some of them, maybe, but as soon as they get elected they change, and they start selling us stories.

The Uni-Party will have control for the next few months... Oversight is
a Joke... They write impeachment articles and the Democrats, first time in history, blow them off and don't hold a trial. The powers to be in Ukraine are too busy embezzling and paying the mechanism their share... Joe gets his 10% of course.

We need secret service protection for the speaker, and we need closer communication between the people and the speaker.

There will be a resolution, at some point, and the war will end.
Ukraine will give up a few things... Like the Russian speaking part...
and life will go on like nothing ever happened... Other than 100s of billions of dollars spent... Millions of lives lost... and the War
machine will try to find an other scab to pick!!!

You make it sound easy! I hope it goes at least that smoothly. But Trump better do something to stop Democrats from screwing us over like this again. We need him to work with congress to stop funding wars that we're not a party to.

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IB Joe wrote to All <=-

So I heard an explanation that seems to explain things... Ties it up in
a nice little bow...

And here it is.... There were 5 or more RINOs threatening to leave congress, right now, if Johnson didn't approve funding for the war in Ukraine... If those 5 stepped down today the house majority would
change hands and in doings so the Democrats would have the majority.

Back when the Supreme Court ruled on the Colorado case, where Colorado
was trying to get Trump off the ballot... They did say it was up to congress to do so... Brother Johnson was/is just trying to save the
House majority...

Or we could just apply Occam's Razor and say: Someone's blackmailing Johnson.

The bad thing is that any of this has an equal chance of being true.

There is soooooo much happening of which we don't know (and can't find out) about that it's frustrating. Sort of like when we are 2 and have some awareness, but really can't participate.

There was a video on this... But I know @Ron L. doesn't do videos so I
had to post.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic. I get it now. But what's worth more: a house majority, or Trump for president?

I thought his explanation was that one led to the other. If we lose the house majority (but if we are 5 RINOs away, I don't see how we haven't already lost it), then Trump may be taken off the ballot in one state - which would lead to a bunch of others doing the same.

The reason I ask this is because I'm concerned that Ukraine will use
the money to interfere in our presidential election.

Ukraine didn't get any money. This is the frustrating thing about "$xx billion for Ukraine". The money goes to "buying" military equipment - so it does into the Military Industrial Comples. Of course, 10% for the Big Guy. And all the other leeches. Plus they have to pay off Zelinskyy.

I don't see the house majority as important anymore. Why didn't Johnson (or other house members) at least insist on oversight? If we had that, then we'd be able to tackle the issue of Ukraine interfering in our election.

I would have called the RINO's bluff and exposed them for what they are.


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Thanks for shedding some light on this topic. I get it now. But what' worth more: a house majority, or Trump for president?

I thought his explanation was that one led to the other. If we lose the house majority (but if we are 5 RINOs away, I don't see how we haven't already lost it), then Trump may be taken off the ballot in one state - which would lead to a bunch of others doing the same.

That seems like a lot of ifs. I wouldn't rely on congress to do anything about it if a state does remove Trump from their ballot.

The reason I ask this is because I'm concerned that Ukraine will use the money to interfere in our presidential election.

Ukraine didn't get any money. This is the frustrating thing about "$xx billion for Ukraine". The money goes to "buying" military equipment -
so it does into the Military Industrial Comples. Of course, 10% for the Big Guy. And all the other leeches. Plus they have to pay off
Zelinskyy.

Still, there's no justifying it. Based on some internet search results, we spent $61 billion in total on our Gulf War that we were involved in. And now we're spending that much just to beef up the Ukranian military. It's not sitting well with voters who own calculators.

I don't see the house majority as important anymore. Why didn't Johns (or other house members) at least insist on oversight? If we had that then we'd be able to tackle the issue of Ukraine interfering in our election.

I would have called the RINO's bluff and exposed them for what they are.

The house members who threaten to resign are not reliable anyway. How shocked would we be if they turned their backs on us later?

Another major issue is: there's billions for Israel and billions of Gaza in the same bill. It's like having the windows open on a hot day while the air conditioner is on.

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On 23 Apr 2024, Ron L. said the following...

Or we could just apply Occam's Razor and say: Someone's blackmailing Johnson.

The bad thing is that any of this has an equal chance of being true.

There is soooooo much happening of which we don't know (and can't find out) about that it's frustrating. Sort of like when we are 2 and have some awareness, but really can't participate.

I'm not sure what they'd have on him... and to be honest, and my opinion, is that this is soooooooooooo out of character I believe he would have stepped aside and or said something if he was being blackmailed.

Though I haven't seen the Tucker video yet... recently put one out that claims Washington politicians are afraid of the CIA/FBI framing/compromising them with child porn... or whatever.

I just MTG et al. need to just let things slide until November. We lost 5 or so Republicans ousting the last RINO speaker... This could cost us dearly.

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On 23 Apr 2024, Ron L. said the following...

I usually BBS on actual vintage computers. So URLs are a pain to get to
a modern computer so that I can see them.

What version of DOS do you run... HEHEHEHE..

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

That seems like a lot of ifs. I wouldn't rely on congress to do
anything about it if a state does remove Trump from their ballot.

I wouldn't rely on Congress to empty my waste paper basket. They are just a bunch of worthless paracites.

Still, there's no justifying it.

No, there is no justifying it. Ukraine is simply a money laundering factory to steal the country's wealth and place it into the Elitist's pockets.

And now we're spending that much just to beef up the Ukranian military. It's not sitting well with voters who own calculators.

Nope. That's why they are pushing things hard right now. And I expect it to only get worse as we get closer to the election.

The house members who threaten to resign are not reliable anyway. How shocked would we be if they turned their backs on us later?

Exactly. Their threat to "resign" was hollow.

Another major issue is: there's billions for Israel and billions of
Gaza in the same bill. It's like having the windows open on a hot day while the air conditioner is on.

Yup. Just more money laundering since little of that money goes to Isreal and Gaza.


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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

I'm not sure what they'd have on him... and to be honest, and my
opinion, is that this is soooooooooooo out of character I believe he
would have stepped aside and or said something if he was being blackmailed.

I'm figuring something made up, but bad enough that he would lose his family and career, even if it's not true.

Though I haven't seen the Tucker video yet... recently put one out that claims Washington politicians are afraid of the CIA/FBI framing/compromising them with child porn... or whatever.

I've seen the same thing. It has enough of a "correct" ring about it to be true.


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That seems like a lot of ifs. I wouldn't rely on congress to do anything about it if a state does remove Trump from their ballot.

I wouldn't rely on Congress to empty my waste paper basket. They are
just a bunch of worthless paracites.

I hope voters start to realize that also. We're at the point where only the executive branch matters and the others are just legacy.

Still, there's no justifying it.

No, there is no justifying it. Ukraine is simply a money laundering factory to steal the country's wealth and place it into the Elitist's pockets.

Right - but I don't think they're doing it because they want money, but that they're just doing it because they don't want anyone else to have it.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I wouldn't rely on Congress to empty my waste paper basket. They are
just a bunch of worthless paracites.

I hope voters start to realize that also. We're at the point where only the executive branch matters and the others are just legacy.

More and more voters are. Trump waked them up, and Biden woke up even more when they realized that they were much worse off than under Trump.

Our main problem is that the Elitists have created a whole class of people just as useless (and entitied) as Congress.

Right - but I don't think they're doing it because they want money, but that they're just doing it because they don't want anyone else to have
it.

That's certainly part of it. They have a mental block in that they believe that the world is a pie. And if you have a bigger slice, then I get less. Capitalism proved that idea to be false.


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Our main problem is that the Elitists have created a whole class of
people just as useless (and entitied) as Congress.

Yes, that is a big problem, but they aren't being paid and/or bribed like congress. So maybe they will figure it out and get off that toxic nipple.

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Hi,

I dislike the wording "funding a war in Ukraine".

What the US funds is the Ukrainian defense operation against the Russian genocidal incursion. That's quite a difference.

There is no taking a pause and reflecting as long as Russia makes it very clear in every single of its commuincations that its goal is to subdue not only Ukraine, but also to destroy NATO and subdue the rest of Europe.

I mean, from a U.S. perspective you could be isolationist and say who
cares, but then you should calculate the economic consequences of losing
all trade with Europe and make a plan where the refugess from Europe will
end up.

Russia is the new Nazi Germany, the sooner everybody in the U.S. realizes this the better.

Now to your topic, I hear Johnson has been visted from leaders of
Evangelical churches from Ukraine before his decision, who reported first hand on what Russia does to their congregations in the occupied
territories and how Russia uses orthodox churches there as ammunition
depots. If Johnson is indeed a Christian he may well have realized that
Putin and his KGB-monch Kyrill are the latest incarnation of the
Antichrist.

I have no answer as to why he supported later term abortion, but you
should realize that in dirty politics not every topic is related with
every other topic. If you try to find a single explanation for all of Mr. Johnson's actions this single explanation will very likely be wrong.

I am a German who lived in Ukraine for ten years and speaks Russian and Ukrainian, and am really abhorred by the plans for complete European subduement that are openly laid out in the Russian media space. I am
deeply thankful to the House of Reps for passing the Ukrainian, Israel and Taiwan aid bill. From all the superpowers (and wannabes) in the world, the U.S. is by far the most human and Christian one. The world will become a
much darker place if the U.S. decides to become isolationsts again.

Kind regards,
Tobias


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I dislike the wording "funding a war in Ukraine".

What the US funds is the Ukrainian defense operation against the Russian genocidal incursion. That's quite a difference.

It makes me mad because that money could have been spent on school security. Our schools need security way more than one of our trade partners do. Then
Biden had the audacity to say "It will make us all a lot safer."

Thanks for reminding me, I need to reprimand my rep if he voted for "The Insane Democrat Robbery Part 3." We can't let them get away with this! The kids in this country are more important than anything abroad. Until the kids in this country are safe, Ukraine can learn to work for their own money.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Our main problem is that the Elitists have created a whole class of
people just as useless (and entitied) as Congress.

Yes, that is a big problem, but they aren't being paid and/or bribed
like congress. So maybe they will figure it out and get off that toxic nipple.

Yes, they are. Congress gives them handouts.

So, The Elitists create a dependent class.
The Elitists steal from those of us who are productive.
They take their slice of that pie.
Then they create programs that the keep the dependent class dependent.
- Like hike the minimum wage to kill off starter jobs
The dependent class keeps voting in the Elitsts back in because they promise more free stuff, while their opponents talk about eliminating the hand outs.


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Tobias Ernst wrote to IB Joe <=-

I dislike the wording "funding a war in Ukraine".

And we have the first clue we are dealing with an Ignorant Elitist.

What the US funds is the Ukrainian defense operation against the
Russian genocidal incursion. That's quite a difference.

And now we have the pushing of the false Narrative.

What the American Taxpayer (not the "US") funds is a huge money laundering scheme that funs everything **except** Ukraine.

There is no taking a pause and reflecting as long as Russia makes it
very clear in every single of its commuincations that its goal is to subdue not only Ukraine, but also to destroy NATO and subdue the rest
of Europe.

I thought we already debunked "Russia! Russia! Russia!"

And I'll just delete the rest of the ignornant rant from this reply.


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Our main problem is that the Elitists have created a whole class of people just as useless (and entitied) as Congress.

Yes, that is a big problem, but they aren't being paid and/or bribed like congress. So maybe they will figure it out and get off that toxi nipple.

Yes, they are. Congress gives them handouts.

The Trump campaign needs to explain something that will be easy for the extremely ignorant to understand.

Handouts are the only tool that could possibly work for the extremely ignorant. Maybe Trump can offer them money with payment on a specific date, like on inauguration day or something. Because he could do that, unlike the Democrats who would never, ever give a specific date, because of re-elections.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

The Trump campaign needs to explain something that will be easy for the extremely ignorant to understand.

Those people will vote Elitists no matter what. They've already been programmed.

Handouts are the only tool that could possibly work for the extremely ignorant.

Remember that we have 2 major factions in the U.S. today:
Those who work and contribute
Those who are paracites

Coddling the paracites will only piss off the ones who work and contribute.


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Remember that we have 2 major factions in the U.S. today:
Those who work and contribute
Those who are paracites

Coddling the paracites will only piss off the ones who work and contribute.

We need to get their votes somehow. The smart people (the smart people who are not criminals) won't vote against Trump no matter what.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

We need to get their votes somehow.

Actually, we don't.

The smart people (the smart people
who are not criminals) won't vote against Trump no matter what.

I believe that the Woke and Useless makes up a tiny, but vocal, percentage of the voting public. That's why they needed the massive voter fraud to pull Biden across the Finish Line in the last election. If we were closer to 50/50, then a much more subtle fraud could have been done which wouldn't have been as easy to see.

There are some people who are down, but looking for a way up and they now see that the Elitists are blocking them because most of them did very well under Trump.


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The smart people (the smart people
who are not criminals) won't vote against Trump no matter what.

I believe that the Woke and Useless makes up a tiny, but vocal,
percentage of the voting public. That's why they needed the massive

"Ignorant vocalists" are probably outnumbered by "responsible people."

There are some people who are down, but looking for a way up and they
now see that the Elitists are blocking them because most of them did
very well under Trump.

It's got to be a very low number of voters who are doing better financially, and money is definitely the biggest concern for most sane people.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

There are some people who are down, but looking for a way up and they
now see that the Elitists are blocking them because most of them did
very well under Trump.

It's got to be a very low number of voters who are doing better financially, and money is definitely the biggest concern for most sane people.

I'm talking about the people who, before Trump, were trying to rise up and during Trump started to do that. For those people, who probably voted Democrat before, it's very appearant who is "for the People".


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