Correction: I am not paying attention to your nonsense.

And yet you responded to it. BC residents must have a different meaning
when it comes to the term "not paying attention." :)

1. His withdrawal from Afghanistan was the most shameful foreign policy calamity in my lifetime. Biden left hundreds of US citizens and as many as 62,000 of our Afghan allies behind enemy lines, and forced NATO allies to abandon their citizens and allies as well. He put the safety of US service members at the Kabul airport in the hands of the Taliban and Haqqani network, decision that led to the deaths of 13 Americans in a suicide attack.

Those service members were killed in a suicide attack (as you mention), not by
iden.

America wanted out of afghanistan for a long time and Biden got it done.

He got it done poorly, all the while ignoring the advice of several
advisors and diplomats who warned him that the current plan would lead to violence and the colapse of the Afghan government. Now, you can try to worm out of that somehow, but the discussion here, pre-withdrawl, was that one of Biden's good qualities was that he would surround himself with good advisors and he would, unlike Trump, *listen* to them.

He sure didn't then, and I half-suspect it was so he could have something
to blame on Trump.

7. His war on fossil fuels helped drive domestic production down and gasolin
prices through the roof.

His war on fossil fuels?

Surely, you jest?

Something is driving the cost of gasoline, as well as power, up. Inflation
is supposedly down but those commodities continue to rise. Most would
question whether or not that is due to the energy policy of the current administration. What is your "theory"?

9. He weaponized the FBI to intimidate parents who show up at school board meetings. Parents are furious about pandemic closures and schools indoctrinating their kids with extremist ideologies. Biden treated them like
domestic terrorists.

Schools don't indoctrinate kids with "extremist ideologies".

That could be true, but parents speaking up about their children's
educations in public schools are being treated like criminals. There are several examples of parents reading books found in their child's school libraries aloud at school board meetings only to be silenced or removed completely by security because the passages are too "obscene" or
"pornographic" to be read at the board meeting... but it is OK if their less-than-teenage kid checks it out of the library and reads it to themselves.

What does the Democratic Party believe in? The Democratic Party is generally
associated with more progressive policies. It supports social and economic equality, favouring greater government intervention in the economy but opposing government involvement in the private noneconomic affairs of citizens.

Yeah, that's all good.

Despite your claims, while you may be a member/voter of some Canadian party that calls themselves "conservative," that statement there proves you are
not. Conservatives don't believe in greater government intervention in
much of anything. Granted there are "conservatives" who think the
government should interfere in the private noneconomic affairs of citizens,
but a true conservative would not.

And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same opportunities),
but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by holding those who
put in more effort back).


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Those service members were killed in a suicide attack (as you mention), not >> by Biden.

America wanted out of afghanistan for a long time and Biden got it done.

He got it done poorly,

He got it done, Trump didn't.

all the while ignoring the advice of several advisors and diplomats who warned him that the current plan would lead to violence and the colapse of the Afghan government.

I am sure that Biden got advice from many and he made his decision.

Now, you can try to worm out of that somehow, but the discussion here, pre-withdrawl, was that one of Biden's good qualities was that he would surround himself with good advisors and he would, unlike Trump, *listen* to them.

I am not worming out of anything. Trump surrounded himself with men like Bannon who he pardoned before he left office.

He sure didn't then, and I half-suspect it was so he could have something
to blame on Trump.

Trump simply didn't have the courage to get it done.

His war on fossil fuels?

Surely, you jest?

Something is driving the cost of gasoline, as well as power, up. Inflation is supposedly down but those commodities continue to rise. Most would question whether or not that is due to the energy policy of the current administration. What is your "theory"?

I have no theory. Everything has a value and a cost to get to market.

How are oil companies doing today. Are they suffering?

What does the Democratic Party believe in? The Democratic Party is
generally associated with more progressive policies. It supports social
and economic equality, favouring greater government intervention in the
economy but opposing government involvement in the private noneconomic
affairs of citizens.

Yeah, that's all good.

Despite your claims, while you may be a member/voter of some Canadian party that calls themselves "conservative," that statement there proves you are not.

I am not a member/voter of any party. At voting time I vote for the person I believe will be the best person for the job at hand.

Conservatives don't believe in greater government intervention in
much of anything. Granted there are "conservatives" who think the
government should interfere in the private noneconomic affairs of citizens, but a true conservative would not.

A big part of the GOP movement today is the stripping away of women's rights.

The right to privacy and make a decision that is right for her at that time. This leads to all kinds of things that are bad for everyone involved and bad for America generally.

That was done by a gerrymandered supreme court.

And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same opportunities), but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by holding those who put in more effort back).

I would hope that equality and equity would be supported by everyone regardless of political leanings.

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Those service members were killed in a suicide attack (as you mention), not
by Biden.

America wanted out of afghanistan for a long time and Biden got it done.

He got it done poorly,

He got it done, Trump didn't.
Trump simply didn't have the courage to get it done.

The deadline set was to be during his second term that he didn't get, so he simply didn't have the votes to get it done.

all the while ignoring the advice of several advisors and diplomats who warned him that the current plan would lead to violence and the colapse of the Afghan government.

I am sure that Biden got advice from many and he made his decision.

He ignored the ones who knew what they were talking about, sort of like
Trump did.

Despite your claims, while you may be a member/voter of some Canadian party that calls themselves "conservative," that statement there proves you are not.

I am not a member/voter of any party. At voting time I vote for the person I b
ieve will be the best person for the job at hand.

In past, you have claimed to be "conservative," and agreeing to the
statement made means you are not.

Conservatives don't believe in greater government intervention in
much of anything. Granted there are "conservatives" who think the government should interfere in the private noneconomic affairs of citizens, but a true conservative would not.

A big part of the GOP movement today is the stripping away of women's rights.

See "but a true conservative would not" above. They are not acting like political conservatives when they do so. They are acting as religious conservatives, which IMHO goes against the principle of separation of
church and state.

That was done by a gerrymandered supreme court.

???? Gerrymandering is the act of carving up voting districts to try to manipulate elections. Supreme Court justices are not elected and don't
have districts.

As discussed previously (and you didn't comprehend it then), legal
precidence set by past cases can be cited in future cases, but it is *NOT*
law. If the Democrats in Congress wanted abortion to be legal, they had multiple opportunites (congressional majority + Democrat President) to make
it so by passing it into law. Despite many years of campaign promisses to protect that right, they failed to do so.

When the original case was reviewed, it was found to be flawed... *NOT* based on a flaw found by the nefarious current justices, but one that was known and even mentioned by at least one of the original justices who found in favor of Roe v. Wade.

Because Congress never passed it into Constitutionally-sound law (or ANY
law), per the Constitution the right to decide was passed back to the
states. I am not sure how the Democratic Congresses + Presidents not doing their jobs has anything to do with the Supreme Court.

And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same opportunities), but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by holding those who put in more effort back).

I would hope that equality and equity would be supported by everyone regardles
of political leanings.

So you think it is right to force outcomes and penalize those who put in
more effort? You do know that is what eventually leads to nothing getting done? You do realize that equity cancels out equality, right?


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He got it done, Trump didn't.
Trump simply didn't have the courage to get it done.

The deadline set was to be during his second term that he didn't get, so he simply didn't have the votes to get it done.

Trump could have done that in four years if he wanted to.

I am sure that Biden got advice from many and he made his decision.

He ignored the ones who knew what they were talking about, sort of like
Trump did.

No president can take everyone's advice.

I am not a member/voter of any party. At voting time I vote for the person I >> believe will be the best person for the job at hand.

In past, you have claimed to be "conservative," and agreeing to the
statement made means you are not.

I am a fiscal conservative although I belong to no party.

A big part of the GOP movement today is the stripping away of women's rights.

See "but a true conservative would not" above. They are not acting like political conservatives when they do so. They are acting as religious conservatives, which IMHO goes against the principle of separation of
church and state.

Your statement is true that such actions are not conservative.

That was done by a gerrymandered supreme court.

???? Gerrymandering is the act of carving up voting districts to try to manipulate elections. Supreme Court justices are not elected and don't
have districts.

Yeah, I struggled a bit with the term gerrymandered but it is all I could come up with.

The supreme court today does seem to be gerrymandered if you get my drift.

As discussed previously (and you didn't comprehend it then), legal
precidence set by past cases can be cited in future cases, but it is *NOT* law. If the Democrats in Congress wanted abortion to be legal, they had multiple opportunites (congressional majority + Democrat President) to make it so by passing it into law. Despite many years of campaign promisses to protect that right, they failed to do so.

This is not a democrat failure. It was actions of the GOP and that gerrymandered supreme court.

As I recall the last couple of judges elevated to the supreme court said that Roe v. Wade was precident and settled law. I wonder what they meant by that.

When the original case was reviewed, it was found to be flawed... *NOT* based on a flaw found by the nefarious current justices, but one that was known and even mentioned by at least one of the original justices who found in favor of Roe v. Wade.

Who found that the original case was flawed?

Because Congress never passed it into Constitutionally-sound law (or ANY law), per the Constitution the right to decide was passed back to the
states. I am not sure how the Democratic Congresses + Presidents not doing their jobs has anything to do with the Supreme Court.

If Roe v Wade is precident and settled law, there is no need to pass more laws.

And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic
equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same
opportunities), but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by
holding those who put in more effort back).

I would hope that equality and equity would be supported by everyone
regardles of political leanings.

So you think it is right to force outcomes and penalize those who put in
more effort? You do know that is what eventually leads to nothing getting done? You do realize that equity cancels out equality, right?

I never, ever said that it was right to force anything or that anyone should be penalized.

Something equitable is a good thing.

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to violence and the colapse of the Afghan government. Now, you can try
to worm out of that somehow, but the discussion here, pre-withdrawl,
was that one of Biden's good qualities was that he would surround
himself with good advisors and he would, unlike Trump, *listen* to
them.

One thing that you can be sure about with Democrats is that if they promise to do *something*, they will never do *something*, but they will claim that they did.

Something is driving the cost of gasoline, as well as power, up.
Inflation is supposedly down but those commodities continue to rise.
Most would question whether or not that is due to the energy policy of
the current administration. What is your "theory"?

Could it be Biden's war on domestic drilling? Or maybe reneging on the gov't's promise to allow oil pipelines?

It's interesting that gas prices rose right after Biden signed all those Executive Orders when he entered the White House.

Of course, I've recently had words with an Ignorant Elitist on Facebook claiming that gas prices rose due to "climate change". No evidence was provided - as was normal.

That could be true,

No. It's true. LibsOfTicTok on X shows that almost daily. While not **every** school is indoctrinating children, too many are.

Here in Michigan, trust in schools has dropped to only 26%. Meaning that 74% want school-of-choice. Public schools won't be around much longer no matter what the Elitists want.

Despite your claims, while you may be a member/voter of some Canadian party that calls themselves "conservative," that statement there proves you are not.

Part of the problem is that the term "conservative" and "liberal" and such are not very well defined.

On top of that, the Elitists like to redefine terms. They've been working hard since the end of WWII to change the meaning of "fascist" - and pretty much have succeeded.

And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same opportunities), but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by holding those who put in more effort back).

It's worse than that. It's right out of Atlas Shrugged:

"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

Those of us who are competent are expected to keep working to the best of our ability, but we don't get the fruits of our labor. Instead, those who are incompetent will get rewarded.

Hence why the lazy, useless and incompetent like "equity".


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He ignored the ones who knew what they were talking about, sort of like Trump did.

No president can take everyone's advice.

Yes, but on the largest stage he had, he did exactly what he said he would not... ignore good advice from advisors.

This is not a democrat failure. It was actions of the GOP and that gerrymander
supreme court.

And complete inaction of the Democrats, multiple times.

As I recall the last couple of judges elevated to the supreme court said that e v. Wade was precident and settled law. I wonder what they meant by that.

No court ruling is law. They only interpret the laws. Presented with
another case that questions a previous interpretation can lead to the court deciding the previous interpretation is correct, or deciding that the
previous decision was not correct, per "actual" law or per the Constitution.

If you want something to be law, you have to craft a bill that is Constitutional and then get it passed by Congress. Democrat majority congresses with sitting Democrat Presidents did not think it was imporant enough to do anything about.

Because Congress never passed it into Constitutionally-sound law (or ANY law), per the Constitution the right to decide was passed back to the states. I am not sure how the Democratic Congresses + Presidents not doing their jobs has anything to do with the Supreme Court.

If Roe v Wade is precident and settled law, there is no need to pass more laws

Court rulings only interpret laws and the Constitution. Congress passes
bills, and the President signs them into law. That is the way that
something becomes law, and it stays law until another law cancels it, until
a high court strikes it down as unconstitutional or, in some cases, it
expires.

And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic
equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same
opportunities), but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by >> > holding those who put in more effort back).

I would hope that equality and equity would be supported by everyone
regardles of political leanings.

So you think it is right to force outcomes and penalize those who put in more effort? You do know that is what eventually leads to nothing getting done? You do realize that equity cancels out equality, right?

I never, ever said that it was right to force anything or that anyone should b
penalized.

Something equitable is a good thing.

That is what equitable is... attempting to force outcomes.


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It's interesting that gas prices rose right after Biden signed all those Executive Orders when he entered the White House.

Cause and effect.

Of course, I've recently had words with an Ignorant Elitist on Facebook claiming that gas prices rose due to "climate change". No evidence was provided - as was normal.

Due to Executive Orders and other polices made in the name of "climate
change," maybe.

That could be true,

No. It's true. LibsOfTicTok on X shows that almost daily. While not **every** school is indoctrinating children, too many are.

I made that concession for the sake of the arguement.

On top of that, the Elitists like to redefine terms. They've been working har
since the end of WWII to change the meaning of "fascist" - and pretty much hav
succeeded.

Soon, if not already, it shall mean the same thing as "capitalism."

And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same opportunities), but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by holding those who put in more effort back).

It's worse than that. It's right out of Atlas Shrugged:

"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

Those of us who are competent are expected to keep working to the best of our ability, but we don't get the fruits of our labor. Instead, those who are incompetent will get rewarded.

Hence why the lazy, useless and incompetent like "equity".

Pretty much.


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4. He unleashed the worst border crisis in US history.

Biden did no such thing. The border situation has improved since the former guy left office.. or whatever he did.

That's insane, and repulsive. Wait until the globalists screw your country ove
the way that they did ours; I'll just say "Oh Al, things are better in Canada w, not worse."

Much like the folks in Martha's Vineyard, there is no border crisis because
it is not affecting Penicton, BC. If refugees started showing up there in droves, things would change.


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Something equitable is a good thing.

That is what equitable is... attempting to force outcomes.

I understand equity to mean the quality of being fair or impartial. Something that is fair and just.

I like equity.

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the way that they did ours; I'll just say "Oh Al, things are better in C w, not worse."

Much like the folks in Martha's Vineyard, there is no border crisis because it is not affecting Penicton, BC. If refugees started showing
up there in droves, things would change.

I think he's just messing with us. He's keeping Fidonet from being dead by playing the role of "ridiculous liberal guy." He knows that those types of messages will keep the conversations rolling.

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Hello Alan,

Something equitable is a good thing.

That is what equitable is... attempting to force outcomes.

I understand equity to mean the quality of being fair or impartial. Something that is fair and just.

Billie Jean King.
WTA.
Bobby Riggs.
Lesbians rule!

I like equity.

She got it started.
50 years ago.
Men who won championships were paid eight times as much as women
in her day. Not any more. And that was just in tennis.
Men who won championships in soccer were also paid many times as
much as women. Until another lesbian came along and changed that,
for the better.

Men gave in to women very quickly when it came to soccer. You see,
in that game, women play with bigger balls. And trust me when I tell
you, women can kick. Really hard. And sometimes bump with their heads.
Best to give them what they want. You'll be glad you did.

For Life,
Lee

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Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

Something equitable is a good thing.

That is what equitable is... attempting to force outcomes.

It's an offshoot of the Ignorant Elitist Narrative. The idea that they can control everything to get the outcome that they want.

It's only been proven wrong a few million times.


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Gregory Deyss wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

I noticed Washington D.C. is slow walking those work permits for those
who want to work. Now Eric Adams is stating that NYC will be destroyed due to those people that are being bused in. So much for a sanctuary
city, this is a Tuesday for the State of Texas.

The Ignorant Elitists only like to virtue signal.

So Adams was pro-immigration (as a side note: these people are illgal aliens, not immigrants) until he had to deal with it. Then he has a problem with it. But he was OK if some other city had to deal with it.

He is no leader. Come
to think of it the last one was also a real winner also. There is your problem New York City. They never learn.

None of these idiots are leaders.


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We also need to know how the lawful citizens will be protected from the same vi
olence that these people are "escaping" from, because evil is just as mobile as
"good."

"Evil is just as mobile as good" - indeed it is.

As I said before, let them all start showing up in Penicton and I suspect
Al's reaction would be very similar to the folks in Martha's Vinyard.

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We should make Star Trek's Transporter a working reality.
Then they could step onto the pads and transport them to Canada, that should a
ut do it. Think of the benefits we could even "Send them Back"

NYC Mayor Eric Adams wouldn't be the the only one, changing his tune.

Not just any part of Canada, but specifically British Columbia. ;)

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Canada still requires a passport for entry into their country. I miss having t
t here in the USA. Canada knows who their guests are and where they came from,
nd we don't.

When I went -- 2017 -- US citizens only needed a driver's license.
*However*, you needed a passport to get back INTO the US so you do sort of
need one to go to Canada.

Now if you snuck back across and then claimed "asylum" if you got caught,
that might also work.

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So Adams was pro-immigration (as a side note: these people are illgal aliens, not immigrants) until he had to deal with it. Then he has a problem with it. But he was OK if some other city had to deal with it.

At least he is now admitting that there is an issue. Other D's are still spinning the "there is no problem" yarn.

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Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

At least he is now admitting that there is an issue. Other D's are
still spinning the "there is no problem" yarn.

He's having to deal with it, that's why he's saying there's an issue.

One of the big problems with gov't is that the people making the decisions bear no responsibility for the outcomes of those decisions. This is especially true for the Ignorant Elitists who can never admit that their policies are failures and will always double down on those failed policies.

One of the things we need to fix in our gov't is to make those who pass the law responsible for the outcome. Ex: If they vote for raising the Minimum Wage, and the outcome of that is fewer people working, then the people who voted for that Minimum Wage increase should be fined accordingly.


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Hello Mike,

Canada still requires a passport for entry into their country. I miss

having t

t here in the USA. Canada knows who their guests are and where they

came from,

nd we don't.

When I went -- 2017 -- US citizens only needed a driver's license.

US citizens were required to use passports to enter Canada
beginning with the George W. Bush administration (2001-2009).

*However*, you needed a passport to get back INTO the US so you do sort of need one to go to Canada.

All people entering the USA from abroad need a passport, including
US citizens. That started long before the GWB administration ...

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One of the big problems with gov't is that the people making the decisions bea
no responsibility for the outcomes of those decisions. This is especially tru
for the Ignorant Elitists who can never admit that their policies are failures
and will always double down on those failed policies.

That is true. The homeless, mentally ill, and drug zombies rarely show up
in their (sometimes gated) neighborhoods.

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Mike Powell wrote to RON L. <=-

That is true. The homeless, mentally ill, and drug zombies rarely show
up in their (sometimes gated) neighborhoods.

By design.

Their policies always push the responsibility on to someone else to deal with (since they are obviously not competent to deal with it themselves).

Hence Adams crying about the illegal alien problem in his city. He's not competent to deal with the problem HE supported (but wanted others to deal with).


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As I said before, let them all start showing up in Penicton and I suspect Al's reaction would be very similar to the folks in Martha's Vinyard.

But even when that happens, he'll just blame Trump for it (or whatever the silly narrative may be at the time.)

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When I went -- 2017 -- US citizens only needed a driver's license. *However*, you needed a passport to get back INTO the US so you do sort
of need one to go to Canada.

2017 was way different than 2023.

With more than 10,000 undocumented migrants crossing the border every day, wouldn't it seem ridiculous for authorities to ask you for ID as you drive in from Canada?

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Something equitable is a good thing.

That is what equitable is... attempting to force outcomes.

I understand equity to mean the quality of being fair or impartial. Something at is fair and just.

I like equity.

In politics, that is not what it means.


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When I went -- 2017 -- US citizens only needed a driver's license. *However*, you needed a passport to get back INTO the US so you do sort of need one to go to Canada.

2017 was way different than 2023.

With more than 10,000 undocumented migrants crossing the border every day,

ou

n't it seem ridiculous for authorities to ask you for ID as you drive in from nada?

We were having migrant problems before 2017, too. That was part of Trump's platform and part of what got him elected.

Getting out of Canada into the US was much easier than getting into Canada
from the US, even with a passport.


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Hello Mike,

Something equitable is a good thing.

That is what equitable is... attempting to force outcomes.

I understand equity to mean the quality of being fair or impartial.
Something
at is fair and just.

I like equity.

In politics, that is not what it means.

Yes, it does. Billie Jean King used it to get what she wanted.
That was fifty years ago. The game is still played the same way
today as it was then.

Thanks for playing.

For Life,
Lee

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