• Re: more facts and truth

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Mon Jul 31 23:48:24 2023
    Source: Fox News
    Title: Jesse Watters: Devon Archer just flipped on the Bidens, and it's bad
    The 50 Million Dollar Man / Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVClVeLDDNk

    Source: Fox News
    Title: Ingraham: Joe Biden lied
    America For Sale "Facts are stubborn Things" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkj4s3DirJE

    Source: Fox News
    Hannity: This was a huge lie
    Everything centered around Pops
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq0gl9fnu38

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Jul 31 21:52:18 2023
    Source: Fox News
    Title: Jesse Watters: Devon Archer just flipped on the Bidens, and it's bad The 50 Million Dollar Man / Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVClVeLDDNk
    Source: Fox News

    Do you think Fox is telling the truth day?

    Say? How much was that settlement again? $787,500,000?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Aug 1 14:26:48 2023
    Source: Fox News
    Title: Jesse Watters: Devon Archer just flipped on the Bidens, and it's bad The 50 Million Dollar Man / Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVClVeLDDNk

    That (as I suspected) turns out to be more fox news lies.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Tue Aug 1 22:28:58 2023
    On 01 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Source: Fox News
    Title: Jesse Watters: Devon Archer just flipped on the Bidens, and it's b
    The 50 Million Dollar Man / Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVClVeLDDNk

    That (as I suspected) turns out to be more fox news lies.
    We just have to see what to see what happens.
    Ya know if he (Biden) wasn't corrupt, he would not have to worry about the Republicans uncovering anything.
    But by the end of what was Biden's Vice Presidency he thought his political life that has spanned nearly 50 years was over so he turned on the money spigot and became The Brand. Surely these foreign countries wouldn't pay Hunter 10 cents without his Dad being the Vice-President.
    It is clear and quite obvious that they were paying for access to Joe Biden. Don't give that crap that they were walking about the weather w/ phone calls went out to Dad on the cell phone. They paying for the Brand called Joe Biden a man who could fix things within a corrupt country. Lord know he has not fixed anything here within the United States, still waiting for that list.

    What is the Weather like in Ukraine. cold.

    Things are going to get much worse for Joesph R. Biden Jr.
    It was due to Joe's arrogance over words that were taken out of context and a misunderstanding when Trump allegedly mentioned Good people on both sides comment. Joey then got fired up in the basement and got the courage to run,
    (and some odd reason) he remained in that very same basement while running but the old fool either forgot or did not care about his connections and actions as it related to his son Hunter.
    I think the later was the case with Joe, being as arrogant as he is.
    History will more than likley show that Joe Biden was the most corrupt person to hold the office of the Presidency in all of U.S. History.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Aug 1 20:42:42 2023
    That (as I suspected) turns out to be more fox news lies.
    We just have to see what to see what happens.

    We do see what has happened.

    Ya know if he (Biden) wasn't corrupt, he would not have to worry about the Republicans uncovering anything.

    What makes you think Joe Biden is worried?

    History will more than likley show that Joe Biden was the most corrupt person to hold the office of the Presidency in all of U.S. History.

    History will tell the Joe Biden story when the time comes.

    The Donald Trump story will also be told although much of it is only unfolding now.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 07:13:46 2023
    On 01 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    That (as I suspected) turns out to be more fox news lies.
    We just have to see what to see what happens.

    We do see what has happened.

    Ya know if he (Biden) wasn't corrupt, he would not have to worry about th
    Republicans uncovering anything.

    What makes you think Joe Biden is worried?
    Joe Biden lied many times, when he said he had nothing to do with Hunter's business dealings. This is a obvious lie due the sworn testimony from Devon Archer that Joe Biden was called and spoke on the phone at least 20 times, at these Business meetings with Hunter and his associates of foreign business partners at these meetings.

    Then the wording changed with what was released.
    It went from he did not have any knowledge of TO he was not in business. Opps.




    AI>
    History will more than likley show that Joe Biden was the most corrupt pe
    to hold the office of the Presidency in all of U.S. History.

    History will tell the Joe Biden story when the time comes.

    The Donald Trump story will also be told although much of it is only unfolding now.
    It's amazing Trump ended his term as U.S. President in January of 2022, and still in August of 2023 he is still much in the news and on the minds rent free of libs everywhere. All of these phony indictments designed to slow him down, because the left is so terrified that Trump will win and if that happens it will be worse then death for these people on the left who crave
    power and control.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 2 10:22:34 2023
    Yes, Devon Archer said there were at east 20 phone calls and he also
    said The Bidens were not talking business.

    The Biden's were selling access... All Hunter had to do was show the people/clients that he could call his father at any time.

    That's the right wing spin that has been going around for years but that is not what Devon Archer said.

    Did the story change?

    The story changed more than Hunter changed prostitutes.

    The spin has changed, the facts are unchanged.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 11:32:12 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    That's the right wing spin that has been going around for years but that is not what Devon Archer said.


    The story changed more than Hunter changed prostitutes.

    The spin has changed, the facts are unchanged.


    Is it mushroom season still??

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 2 11:24:34 2023
    The story changed more than Hunter changed prostitutes.

    The spin has changed, the facts are unchanged.

    Is it mushroom season still??

    Why oh why, are we talking about Hunter Biden?

    This "mushroom season" talk is yet more spin.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 12:55:24 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Why oh why, are we talking about Hunter Biden?

    This "mushroom season" talk is yet more spin.


    No... but it would explain some of your answers

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 2 12:21:26 2023
    Why oh why, are we talking about Hunter Biden?

    This "mushroom season" talk is yet more spin.

    No... but it would explain some of your answers

    You don't care much for the truth.

    But why are we talking about Hunter Biden?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 18:15:16 2023

    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    What makes you think Joe Biden is worried?
    Joe Biden lied many times,

    That's what I keep hearing.

    when he said he had nothing to do with Hunter's business dealings. This i
    obvious lie due the sworn testimony from Devon Archer that Joe Biden was called and spoke on the phone at least 20 times, at these Business meetin
    with Hunter and his associates of foreign business partners at these meetings.

    Yes, Devon Archer said there were at east 20 phone calls and he also
    said The Bidens were not talking business.
    That last bit about the Biden's not talking business is lefty-spin from
    Rep. Daniel Goldman, he is trying to save face.
    This spin is factually false for many reasons.
    1. What did "no experience" Hunter bring to the table to offer, he knew nothing of gas or oil, he said as much on Good Morning America.
    It is clear as to his of his involvement, access to his father Joe Biden, VP.

    2 The DOJ via Joe Biden tried to intimidate Devon Archer with a mailings of a threating letter [this was almost right out of the movie Goodfellas] from the DOJ on a Saturday - this is noteworthy because it almost never happens.
    3 Do you know why Devon Archer testified in the first place, because he felt like was thrown under the bus and felt betrayed by the Bidens.
    The three facts show that the spin from Goldman is categorically false.
    Sounds like a Crock of Schiff.

    Those indictments are not phony.
    The Washington case is very weak have you read the indictment?
    This will fall apart when it hits at a high speed or any at any speed against the Freedom of Speech protections.
    The indictment is about Trump's spoken words not about at what happened at the Capitol.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Aug 2 16:44:00 2023
    Yes, Devon Archer said there were at east 20 phone calls and he also
    said The Bidens were not talking business.
    That last bit about the Biden's not talking business is lefty-spin from
    Rep. Daniel Goldman, he is trying to save face.

    Nope, Devon Archer said that himself.

    This spin is factually false for many reasons.
    1. What did "no experience" Hunter bring to the table to offer, he knew nothing of gas or oil, he said as much on Good Morning America.

    What does it matter? Lots of people get jobs in a field where they have no previous experience.

    Donald Trump for example was given the job of president without any previous experience at all. Look how that turned out.

    It is clear as to his of his involvement, access to his father Joe Biden, VP.

    His involvement in what?

    2 The DOJ via Joe Biden tried to intimidate Devon Archer with a mailings of a threating letter [this was almost right out of the movie Goodfellas] from the DOJ on a Saturday - this is noteworthy because it almost never happens.

    Devon was not threatened in any way. That was a letter like many in Devon's situation will receive. The DOJ did not and was not going to "arrest Devon before he could testify".

    3 Do you know why Devon Archer testified in the first place, because he felt like was thrown under the bus and felt betrayed by the Bidens.
    The three facts show that the spin from Goldman is categorically false. Sounds like a Crock of Schiff.

    I don't know why Devon was there. I suspect he was asked to attend.

    Those indictments are not phony.
    The Washington case is very weak have you read the indictment?

    Weak you say. ;)

    This is the beggining, not the end.

    This will fall apart when it hits at a high speed or any at any speed against the Freedom of Speech protections.

    Donald Trump was not indicted based on his speech, he was indicted based on his actions. The indictment makes this clear.

    The indictment is about Trump's spoken words not about at what happened at the Capitol.

    You've got that the wrong way around. The indictment is about Donald Trump's actions, not his speech.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 18:32:04 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    You've got that the wrong way around. The indictment is about Donald Trump's actions, not his speech.


    Funny.... can you quote what part of the indictment that talks about action??

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 2 19:13:14 2023
    You've got that the wrong way around. The indictment is about Donald
    Trump's actions, not his speech.

    Funny....

    What do you find funny?

    can you quote what part of the indictment that talks about action??

    The whole thing is about Donald Trumps actions.

    There are only 4 charges, joe. Read the indictment over.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 2 21:34:24 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    You've got that the wrong way around. The indictment is about Donald
    Trump's actions, not his speech.

    Funny....

    What do you find funny?


    Nothing in the indictment had anything to do with his actions... They are trying to indict him on his thoughts... You might want to read or re-read the indictment... and when you do can you please tell me the part where it says Tramp did this or that...


    The whole thing is about Donald Trumps actions.

    There are only 4 charges, joe. Read the indictment over.


    There is nothing that says Trump DID this or that... You don't listen to the news do you??

    What they are saying is that Trump knew he lost the election and rather than accepting the loss he concocted a story about election fraud... and knowing that he lost he lied and went with the election fraud story.

    Trump has always believed his election was stolen, he doesn't believe Joe Biden won and he's lying... BUT rather he believes it was stolen.

    I saw Trumps lawyer talking on the news and Trump is actually pumped on this indictment.... He'll now have the ability to show in court the evidence he has about the election issues... and he can subpoena some of the players who rigged the election.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Aug 2 21:56:42 2023
    But why are we talking about Hunter Biden?

    Would you rather talk about Trump?

    Sure, if you want to talk about Trump go ahead.

    That is what Trump likes to talk about.
    So why shouldn't we all?

    There is nothing to talk about. Hunter is a private citizen. He is not president, has never been president, will never be president.

    I don't think he has or will run for any office.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Ib Joe on Wed Aug 2 21:20:46 2023
    Nothing in the indictment had anything to do with his actions... They are
    trying to indict him on his thoughts... You might want to read or re-read the
    indictment... and when you do can you please tell me the part where it says Tramp did this or that...

    The indictment alleges that Trump conspired with co-conspirators to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to impair, obstruct and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted and certified by the federal government.

    That is what Donald Trump did. The indictment goes on...

    The whole thing is about Donald Trumps actions.

    There are only 4 charges, joe. Read the indictment over.

    There is nothing that says Trump DID this or that... You don't listen to the news do you??

    That is not news. That is from the indictment.

    What they are saying is that Trump knew he lost the election and rather than accepting the loss he concocted a story about election fraud... and knowing that he lost he lied and went with the election fraud story.

    That is part of it.

    Trump has always believed his election was stolen, he doesn't believe Joe Bide
    won and he's lying... BUT rather he believes it was stolen.

    It's a free country Joe. You can believe anything at all. You can say anything at all.

    I saw Trumps lawyer talking on the news and Trump is actually pumped on this
    indictment.... He'll now have the ability to show in court the evidence he has >about the election issues... and he can subpoena some of the players who rigge
    the election.

    This indictment is about Donald Trumps actions.

    After the election Donald Trump did go to court saying the election was stolen but he was not successful. The indictment also talks about that.

    The election is not going to be re-litigated now, Donald Trumps actions will be.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 06:38:24 2023
    Hello Alan,

    Why oh why, are we talking about Hunter Biden?

    This "mushroom season" talk is yet more spin.

    No... but it would explain some of your answers

    You don't care much for the truth.

    But why are we talking about Hunter Biden?

    Would you rather talk about Trump?
    That is what Trump likes to talk about.
    So why shouldn't we all?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 07:16:50 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    After the election Donald Trump did go to court saying the election was stolen but he was not successful. The indictment also talks about that.
    Hillary Clinton and her supporters threw a fit and created hell on Earth when she lost the election, but what Hillary did next was to install a fake narrative of Russia Russia Russia, which hung over the nation.
    "Not my president" was the chant from her followers. Chaos and destruction, civil unrest. she at one point said that the 2016 presidential election was not conducted legitimately, from this; the media, chirped out as if on command to also say that it was not legitimate and that the Donald Trump was a illegitimate president.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=LoMhBo8ATBM

    Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has put
    the country through.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Aug 3 08:23:00 2023
    No... but it would explain some of your answers

    He doesn't have to be stoned to answer in that manner, it comes naturally
    to him. ;)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Thu Aug 3 08:25:00 2023
    What does it matter? Lots of people get jobs in a field where they have no pre
    ous experience.

    Lot's of people do not get *high-level* jobs in fields where they have no previous experience. Only people with connections get to do that, which is where the problem lies.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 11:11:44 2023
    The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Others charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial.
    That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants, travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.

    Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"

    How similar are their crimes?

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 09:53:14 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    The indictment alleges that Trump conspired with co-conspirators to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to
    impair, obstruct and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted
    and certified by the federal government.

    That is what Donald Trump did. The indictment goes on...


    That's what it alleges...and the allegations go on...

    The allegations break down like this... The government says that Trump KNEW he lost the election... BUT chose to not believe it and chose to BELIEVE the election was stolen. The conspiracy side of the charges stem from the legal advice he received about the electoral certification process...

    Let is be known that this is not the first time the US had had this issued... Recall 1960 when Kennedy was voted in.... Apparently it was a Hawaii sent in a double set of electors.... after some wrangling the STATE legislators chose to affirm the democrat electors...

    In 1877 Ulysses S. Grant was elected, reconstruction ended and the Democrats began to impose Jim Crow las because of this.... But the state of Florida's legislators chose to swap out the Democrat electors and replace them with Republican electors thus breaking the tie and Grant, a Republican, was elected into office.

    There was several instances back in 2016, when Trump beat Hillary, that high profile Democrats told states to not send their Republican electors.... Several instances in history, and as well as 2017 when Trump's presidency was being certified, where Democrats were objecting to the process.

    During the 2020 election 5 states sent in a double set of electors... these states did so after being presented with voting irregularities...

    As per the constitution the electors are sent in by the state legislators and if there is a discrepancy the state legislators were asked to clarify...

    VP Judas Pence wasn't made to chose what ones were to be seated... Judas was asked to ask the state legislators what they wanted done...

    Alan Dershowitz, a life long liberal democrat who has never voted republican, was talking about the legalities and the issues surrounding the current indictment...

    https://youtu.be/VPUeIKk5SS0


    That is not news. That is from the indictment.


    I know it's not news... There are legal experts talking about this... I just think you lack the skill set... and the knowledge of the Constitution and as well rudimentary knowledge of US history to make opinions such as the ones you make.


    It's a free country Joe. You can believe anything at all. You can say anything at all.


    And so can Trump.... and now for the first time in post constitutional US history one party is trying to criminalize Thoughts and beliefs.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 10:09:48 2023
    On 02 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    This indictment is about Donald Trumps actions.

    After the election Donald Trump did go to court saying the election was stolen but he was not successful. The indictment also talks about that.

    The election is not going to be re-litigated now, Donald Trumps actions will be.


    Sorry.... It's never been in a court... Cowards... judges always declined to see the case because of one reason or an other... Though I was frustrated at the courts lack of enthusiasm.... I heard arguments that this is a political and not a legal issue...

    I came across this video after I sent my last response...

    https://rumble.com/v33zh3k-trump-will-now-have-subpoena-power-to-re-litigate-ev ery-case-from-the-2020-.html

    This is the issue at hand... there needs to be more talk and less criminalization... If Biden is soooooooooooo confident his policies are the best... debate them.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 3 10:34:36 2023


    He doesn't have to be stoned to answer in that manner, it comes naturally to him. ;)


    Thanx....

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 22:27:16 2023
    Hello Alan,

    But why are we talking about Hunter Biden?

    Would you rather talk about Trump?

    Sure, if you want to talk about Trump go ahead.

    Several prosecutors want to talk about Trump. And more wanting
    to join in the conversation. Not sure how many, with 75+ indictments
    already and five scheduled trial dates, with more on the way, it may
    be all we will be talking about between now and election day.

    That is what Trump likes to talk about.
    So why shouldn't we all?

    There is nothing to talk about. Hunter is a private citizen.

    So is Donald Trump.

    He is not president, has never been president, will never be president.

    You do not know that.

    I don't think he has or will run for any office.

    Why should he? He has open access to wherever he wants to go.
    The West Wing, the Situation Room, the Rose Garden ...

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Aug 3 22:27:28 2023
    Hello Greg,

    After the election Donald Trump did go to court saying the election was
    stolen but he was not successful. The indictment also talks about that.

    Hillary Clinton and her supporters threw a fit and created hell on Earth when she lost the election, but what Hillary did next was to install a fake
    narrative of Russia Russia Russia, which hung over the nation.

    Hillary Clinton acted honorably, and conceded to Trump. Not once
    did she question the results, or challenge the results in court.

    Even though she won the popular vote, having received over three
    million votes more than her opponent, she did not try to undermine
    the legitimacy of the election or the final results. Nor did she
    seek to install "fake electors" in order to steal the electoral
    college vote.

    "Not my president" was the chant from her followers.

    Donald Trump is nobody's president.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Aug 3 16:57:06 2023
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=LoMhBo8ATBM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H916EVndP_A

    Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has put
    the country through.

    Hillary was investigated.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Ib Joe on Thu Aug 3 17:15:04 2023
    The election is not going to be re-litigated now, Donald Trumps actions
    will be.

    Sorry.... It's never been in a court...

    What!? ;)

    Cowards... judges always declined to
    see the case because of one reason or an other... Though I was frustrated at the courts lack of enthusiasm.... I heard arguments that this is a political and not a legal issue...

    Judges have seen the case over and over again. Trump has no evidence.

    I came across this video after I sent my last response...
    https://rumble.com/v33zh3k-trump-will-now-have-subpoena-power-to-re-litigate-e
    ery-case-from-the-2020-.html

    You are not going to get any truth from fox news.

    This is the issue at hand... there needs to be more talk and less criminalization... If Biden is soooooooooooo confident his policies are the best... debate them.

    By all means. Have your debate.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Aug 3 20:42:50 2023
    Hillary Clinton acted honorably, and conceded to Trump. Not once
    did she question the results, or challenge the results in court.

    Hilary honorable? She wrote a book entitled "What Happened?"
    Doesn't seem very honorable to me.
    Yes she did question the results, in many ways.

    https://tinyurl.com/4m9ecmju

    The reason why she lost is clear, she alienated half the country. Maybe instead of calling Trump Supporters "A Basket of Deplorables" and she went on to state that Trump Supporters were racist to among other things...
    She did not talk enough about what she would of done for the country.
    She was too busy bashing Trump.

    How could we be racist after the election of the first black president.
    Being Racist is Biden: "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black"

    Democrats play the Race Card every 4 years.
    All you know how to do is to slander Donald Trump with contempt & hatred.

    There is no point in explaining why I have been and always will be a Big League supporter of Donald Trump. You being as dumb as a turnip, and all of that.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 20:47:54 2023
    Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has pu the country through.
    Hillary was investigated.


    This is was James Comey former Lead at the FBI said

    Comey also said the FBI assessed that there was no direct evidence that Clinton's personal email domain was hacked. It is possible, however, that hostile actors gained access to her personal email account, he added.

    He characterized the investigation findings as showing that Clinton and her team were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information but he said there was no clear evidence they intended to violate the law.

    Still, Comey said the FBI's recommendation is that Clinton not face criminal charges for her actions.

    Although there is evidence of potential violations regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would
    bring such a case, he said.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Aug 3 18:50:48 2023
    There is nothing to talk about. Hunter is a private citizen.

    So is Donald Trump.

    He is today yes, these charges Trump is facing happened while he was president.

    He is not president, has never been president, will never be president.

    You do not know that.

    He could run if he wanted. All of these so called "investigations" into Hunter Biden target a private citizen.

    I don't think he has or will run for any office.

    Why should he? He has open access to wherever he wants to go.
    The West Wing, the Situation Room, the Rose Garden ...

    Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 3 18:53:00 2023
    The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Others
    charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial.
    That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants,
    travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from
    co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.

    Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"

    There have been many. Look it up.

    How similar are their crimes?

    The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the Donald.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Thu Aug 3 19:05:14 2023
    The allegations break down like this... The government says that Trump KNEW he lost the election...

    Of course he knew. His advisers told him. He spent millions investigating the election and those investigations revealed no evidence the election had been stolen and he was told this.

    BUT chose to not believe it and chose to BELIEVE the election was stolen.
    The conspiracy side of the charges stem from the legal advice he received about the electoral certification process...

    He didn't like the outcome (a lot of people didn't like the outcome) but he knew he lost.

    During the 2020 election 5 states sent in a double set of electors... these states did so after being presented with voting irregularities...

    Yes, these fake electors are also under investigation and indictment now.

    As per the constitution the electors are sent in by the state legislators and if there is a discrepancy the state legislators were asked to clarify...

    The state(s) sends in electors as the people have voted, yes?

    VP Judas Pence wasn't made to chose what ones were to be seated... Judas was asked to ask the state legislators what they wanted done...

    Pence had no authority to do any of that and he didn't.

    That is not news. That is from the indictment.

    I know it's not news... There are legal experts talking about this... I just think you lack the skill set... and the knowledge of the Constitution and as well rudimentary knowledge of US history to make opinions such as the ones you make.

    I have an opinion the same as you do.

    It's a free country Joe. You can believe anything at all. You can say
    anything at all.

    And so can Trump.... and now for the first time in post constitutional US history one party is trying to criminalize Thoughts and beliefs.

    The indictment does not criminalize Trump's thoughts or speech. It says as much.

    Trump has been indicted based on his actions.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Thu Aug 3 19:06:58 2023
    Lot's of people do not get *high-level* jobs in fields where they have no previous experience. Only people with connections get to do that, which is where the problem lies.

    If Barisma had a problem with Hunters experience thay may change their mind. There is no criminality with Hunter's position.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 23:45:32 2023
    The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Othe >> charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial. >> That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants >> travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from
    co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.

    Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"

    There have been many. Look it up.

    How similar are their crimes?

    The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the Donald.

    You're parroting, bigtime!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 3 21:16:52 2023
    The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the
    Donald.

    You're parroting, bigtime!

    I'm not parroting anything/anyone.

    I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these types of crimes. Many times.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 3 22:45:22 2023

    The election is not going to be re-litigated now, Donald Trumps actions >> will be.

    Sorry.... It's never been in a court...

    What!? ;)


    Any of the attempts to get the election cases into court were thrown out based on standing.... NONE were ever tossed based on merit...

    No evidence presented no jury made a decision... Never went to trial ever.

    Here's a video ... if you go to minute 6:19 and his point point ends at ~7 minutes in. That 40 seconds explains the why some states send in 2 sets of electors and he also talks about how all the court cases were rejected based
    on standing... I love the look at the CNN hosts who had no clue...

    https://youtu.be/fI0Gmkv4oGQ


    Judges have seen the case over and over again. Trump has no evidence.


    Judges have never seen any case... All were rejected based on standing... When Trump goes to trial for this case it'll be the first time a jury will see the evidence.


    You are not going to get any truth from fox news.


    I'm not going to get any truth from you...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Thu Aug 3 22:48:20 2023
    Sorry.... It's never been in a court...

    What!? ;)

    Any of the attempts to get the election cases into court were thrown out based on standing.... NONE were ever tossed based on merit...

    Trump did in fact go to court many times.

    No evidence presented no jury made a decision... Never went to trial ever.

    Trump went to court without evidence.

    Here's a video ... if you go to minute 6:19 and his point point ends at ~7 minutes in. That 40 seconds explains the why some states send in 2 sets of electors and he also talks about how all the court cases were rejected based on standing... I love the look at the CNN hosts who had no clue...

    https://youtu.be/fI0Gmkv4oGQ

    Those were/are fake electors. They'll have their day in court too.

    Judges have seen the case over and over again. Trump has no evidence.

    Judges have never seen any case... All were rejected based on standing... When Trump goes to trial for this case it'll be the first time a jury will see the evidence.

    These cases were in court. Trump had no evidence. His own people told him there was no evidence.

    Rudy admitted at one point that he had no evidence.

    You are not going to get any truth from fox news.

    I'm not going to get any truth from you...

    Do you have any evidence that the election was stolen?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 4 07:02:20 2023

    Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).
    Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
    The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.

    Comer Releases Devon Archer's Transcribed Interview Transcript
    Source: https://oversight.house.gov
    https://tinyurl.com/3s7stzsn

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 4 14:40:20 2023
    Hello Alan,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=LoMhBo8ATBM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H916EVndP_A

    Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell
    she has put the country through.

    Hillary was investigated.

    "Lock her up!" was the chant of the crowd when Trump was nominated
    in 2016. The only thing that has changed since then was an additional
    chant of "Lock him up!" in reference to Hunter Biden. But at least
    Hunter plead guilty to a few misdemeanors and will spend no time in
    jail for his derelictions of duty.

    So please.

    Let's get something straight.

    Hillary is still being investigated.

    And the crowd is still chanting "Lock her up!"

    Even though she has never been charged with a crime of any kind.

    Nor has she plead to a misdemeanor or what might count as one.

    Besides, she has an excuse.

    She is married to a man named Bill.

    The president who never told anybody to ever tell a lie.

    Which explains why Hillary was the most admired person in the world.

    Until Michelle Obama came along and took her place.

    But that's okay.

    Now we have Dr. Jill.

    And we all know what the world thinks about Dr. Jill ...

    For Life,
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Aug 4 07:31:00 2023
    That is not news. That is from the indictment.

    I just think
    you lack the skill set... and the knowledge of the Constitution and as well r udimentary knowledge of US history to make opinions such as the ones you make.

    You think correctly. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Aug 4 07:34:00 2023
    The DOJ has not attempted to stop, or even slow down Donald Trump. Others >AI> charged with similar crimes are held in custody while awaiting trial.
    That is not the case with Donald Trump. He is free to go where he wants, >AI> travel where he wants and speak to who he wants (aside from
    co-defendants). He is free to campaign at will.

    Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"

    How similar are their crimes?

    I don't know who, if anyone, Al is thinking of. The case I have heard
    others mention is the recent one involving the solider from the Pentagon.
    He not only had documents he shouldn't, he tried peddling the information
    over the Internet, which was what made his charges worse and landed him in jail. The cases are not actually similar.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Fri Aug 4 07:37:00 2023
    Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has put the country through.

    Hillary was investigated.

    For other things, not for any actions that resulted from the 2016 election.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Fri Aug 4 07:39:00 2023
    Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"

    There have been many. Look it up.

    It is up to you to put up or shut up. You claim there are many others.
    Please supply examples, including how the crimes are similar and
    remembering that Trump is not currently charged with trying to sell any of the document contents.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 4 10:13:42 2023

    Trump did in fact go to court many times.


    No Judge or Jury has seen the evidence of election fraud... PERIOD...

    ALL cases were dismissed based on standing.... ALL!!!

    I sent you a video, though it was fox news... I told you where to go in that video to see a CNN segment where the person who was asked to join the segment SCHOOLED the CNN hosts on 2 issues... 1, the electoral college and how it's certified and 2, the fact that all the election cases were never heard because of standing... He did this all in ~40 seconds and he left the hosts speechless...


    Trump went to court without evidence.


    Trump has evidence and it'll now be heard in a court of law...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 4 10:18:30 2023
    On 04 Aug 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    You think correctly. :)


    I think today is the last day I respond to Mr. Man... He is willfully ignorant. It's okay to have an opinion, or opine, but MY GOD... completely ignore US history, the constitution and US law is an other.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Aug 4 14:43:00 2023
    Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).
    Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
    The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.

    Comer Releases Devon Archer's Transcribed Interview Transcript
    Source: https://oversight.house.gov
    https://tinyurl.com/3s7stzsn

    I'll have a look at the transcript and get back to you.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 4 14:45:26 2023
    How similar are their crimes?

    I don't know who, if anyone, Al is thinking of. The case I have heard
    others mention is the recent one involving the solider from the Pentagon.

    That is the case I am thinking of. I forget the young mans's name.

    He not only had documents he shouldn't, he tried peddling the information over the Internet, which was what made his charges worse and landed him in jail. The cases are not actually similar.

    I thought he was simply showing off the document. Sound familiar?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 4 14:47:18 2023
    Where was the DOJ to indite her w/ her actions, with the hell she has put >> > the country through.

    Hillary was investigated.

    For other things, not for any actions that resulted from the 2016 election.

    Yeah, OK!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 4 14:49:24 2023
    There have been many. Look it up.

    It is up to you to put up or shut up. You claim there are many others. Please supply examples, including how the crimes are similar and
    remembering that Trump is not currently charged with trying to sell any of the document contents.

    Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.

    Do you really need me to look that up for you?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 4 14:52:50 2023
    I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these
    types of crimes. Many times.

    If it happened so many times then why don't you have any examples?

    If you need examples then look it up. It's not something new that hasn't been used before.

    It's ok Al.

    I know it's OK.

    I used to be a parrot also. Back around 2020 I thought Fox News was the coolest thing ever, and I blindly followed their narratives and I thought that everything they said was true, but then I realized that they were full of it and that I too was full of it because I was parroting their lies.
    But the lesson I learned was: admitting to your mistakes is way to go. That philosophy might not sell cars, but it builds integrity.

    OK.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Fri Aug 4 14:58:02 2023
    No Judge or Jury has seen the evidence of election fraud... PERIOD...

    ALL cases were dismissed based on standing.... ALL!!!

    Not all. I think the Texas case (the Texas GOP, not Trump) was dismissed based on standing, and even Trumps cases could have been thrown out for lack of standing but many cases were dismissed because of a lack of evidence.

    I sent you a video, though it was fox news... I told you where to go in that video to see a CNN segment where the person who was asked to join the segment SCHOOLED the CNN hosts on 2 issues... 1, the electoral college and how it's certified and 2, the fact that all the election cases were never heard because of standing... He did this all in ~40 seconds and he left the hosts speechless...

    The video? How about some facts rather than stories?

    Trump went to court without evidence.

    Trump has evidence and it'll now be heard in a court of law...

    I don't think so. Donald Trump is the one on trial, not the election.

    Even if it was there is still no evidence the election was stolen.

    Stories yes, evidence no.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 4 15:37:16 2023
    The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to the
    Donald.

    You're parroting, bigtime!

    I'm not parroting anything/anyone.

    I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these
    types of crimes. Many times.

    Here are a few I found simply with google.

    Robert Birchum, 2023

    Birchum, who was an Air Force lieutenant colonel with a decorated 29-year military career, pleaded guilty in February to one count of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision after investigators discovered during the first month of the Trump presidency in 2017 that Birchum had stored more than 300 classified documents or files in his home, a storage pod on his property and his officerÆs quarters overseas. Birchum was not charged with spying or giving the documents to anyone, and he cooperated with investigators and conveyed remorse û but a Trump-appointed judge sentenced him this month to 3 years in prison.

    Kendra Kingsbury, 2022

    Kingsbury, who was an analyst for the FBI, pleaded guilty in 2022 to two counts of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision after she was indicted by a federal grand jury in 2021 for possessing classified documents in her home. The Justice Department said Kingsbury took home approximately 386 classified documents from work over more than 12 years, including secret information related to counterterrorism intelligence sources and methods, open investigations, the FBIÆs technical capabilities, intelligence gaps, and al Qaeda in Africa. Kingsbury, who was not charged with spying or giving documents to anyone, is scheduled to be sentenced next week.

    Jeremy Brown, 2022

    Brown, a retired Army Special Forces sergeant who later became involved with far-right group the Oath Keepers and ran for the Florida state House as a Republican, was convicted by a federal jury in 2022 for both possession of unregistered grenades and guns and for violating the willful retention of national defense information provision. When the FBI searched BrownÆs home in 2021 upon arresting him over his alleged involvement in the pro-Trump riot at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, they found the unlawful weapons and a classified ôTrip Reportö he had written in 2011 about the search in Afghanistan for missing soldier Bowe Bergdahl. Brown was sentenced in April to 7 years and 3 months in prison, though not solely over the classified document.

    There is more and you are free to look at all/any of them.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Aug 4 15:43:18 2023
    Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).
    Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
    The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.
    Comer Releases Devon Archer's Transcribed Interview Transcript
    Source: https://oversight.house.gov
    https://tinyurl.com/3s7stzsn

    I don't see evidence of a crime.

    What is the crime?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 4 20:19:14 2023
    Who are the "others charged with similar crimes?"

    How similar are their crimes?

    I don't know who, if anyone, Al is thinking of. The case I have heard

    Al doesn't know either.

    He not only had documents he shouldn't, he tried peddling the information over the Internet, which was what made his charges worse and landed him
    in jail. The cases are not actually similar.

    The View is probably telling him that "Trump peddled the docs to Russia."

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 4 20:27:34 2023
    The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to t >> >> Donald.

    You're parroting, bigtime!

    I'm not parroting anything/anyone.

    I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these
    types of crimes. Many times.

    Here are a few I found simply with google.


    The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was found guilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. How many grenades did they catch Trump with?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 4 19:35:02 2023
    Here are a few I found simply with google.

    The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was found guilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. How many grenades did they catch Trump with?

    I'm not talking convictions, I am simply saying that many others have been charged under the espionage act, grenades or not.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 5 07:22:02 2023
    The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was guilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. many grenades did they catch Trump with?

    I'm not talking convictions, I am simply saying that many others have
    been charged under the espionage act, grenades or not.

    You said "small change compared to Trump," but sounds like some large coins to me.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 5 09:02:16 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    But the lesson I learned was: admitting to your mistakes is way to go. That philosophy might not sell cars, but it builds integrity.

    But we'll never see that from the Ignorant Elitists like Al.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 5 09:08:54 2023

    On 04 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    No Judge or Jury has seen the evidence of election fraud... PERIOD...

    ALL cases were dismissed based on standing.... ALL!!!

    Not all. I think the Texas case (the Texas GOP, not Trump) was dismissed based on standing, and even Trumps cases could have been thrown out for lack of standing but many cases were dismissed because of a lack of evidence.

    I sent you a video, though it was fox news... I told you where to go in t
    video to see a CNN segment where the person who was asked to join the seg
    SCHOOLED the CNN hosts on 2 issues... 1, the electoral college and how i
    certified and 2, the fact that all the election cases were never heard because of standing... He did this all in ~40 seconds and he left the hos
    speechless...

    The video? How about some facts rather than stories?

    Trump went to court without evidence.

    Trump has evidence and it'll now be heard in a court of law...

    I don't think so. Donald Trump is the one on trial, not the election.
    Wither you like it or not Donald Trump will be permitted to provide evidence that disproves the allegations that are brought against him.

    All 3 indictments have issues with weakness, and they show the true nature of
    a persecution of a political opponent.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 5 07:40:28 2023
    I'm not talking convictions, I am simply saying that many others have
    been charged under the espionage act, grenades or not.

    You said "small change compared to Trump," but sounds like some large coins to me.

    Yep, small change compared to Trump.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Aug 5 07:57:38 2023
    Wither you like it or not Donald Trump will be permitted to provide evidence that disproves the allegations that are brought against him.

    Of course anyone charged with a crime will put up his defense. I have no problem with that.

    All 3 indictments have issues with weakness,

    The truth is that all the idictments are rather strong, and the defenses I have seen are weak.

    and they show the true nature of a persecution of a political opponent.

    How so? Donald Trump is free to campaign, hold rallies, give speeches. His first amendment right to lie in his speech continues as always.

    Where is this perecution tou speak of?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 5 17:26:44 2023
    Hello Alan,

    There have been many. Look it up.

    It is up to you to put up or shut up. You claim there are many others.
    Please supply examples, including how the crimes are similar and
    remembering that Trump is not currently charged with trying to sell any of
    the document contents.

    Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.

    Do you really need me to look that up for you?

    That would help.
    Remember.
    This is Romper Room.
    For MAGA idiots.
    Those who graduate become MAGA nutjobs.
    So please.
    Do help them out.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 5 17:26:50 2023
    Hello Alan,

    Hunter Biden is not in government in any way, never has been (so far).
    Hunter was the bag man, and his Father was the closer.
    The Brand does not exist without Joe Biden.
    Comer Releases Devon Archer's Transcribed Interview Transcript
    Source: https://oversight.house.gov
    https://tinyurl.com/3s7stzsn

    I don't see evidence of a crime.

    Doesn't matter. Lock him up! Just like Hillary!

    What is the crime?

    Doesn't matter. Lock him up! Just like Hillary!

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Aug 5 23:24:54 2023
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    I don't think so. Donald Trump is the one on trial, not the election.

    Wither you like it or not Donald Trump will be permitted to provide evidence
    that disproves the allegations that are brought against him.

    It is up to the prosecution to present its case. Not the other way
    around. IOW, Trump is granted the presumption of innocence, which is
    the way our system of justice is set up (or supposed to work).

    All 3 indictments have issues with weakness, and they show the true nature of a persecution of a political opponent.

    Trump is facing 4 indictments, and could be sentenced to 5, 10,
    or 20 years. Quite a stretch for man his age. The charges are real,
    and he is facing serious time in prison. Jack Smith is not kidding,
    and nobody else is, either.

    It's time you face the music, Greg.

    Trump's goose is cooked. He is going to prison.

    And then the American people (and the world) will forget about him.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Aug 5 22:30:18 2023
    Trump is facing 4 indictments, and could be sentenced to 5, 10,
    or 20 years. Quite a stretch for man his age. The charges are real,
    and he is facing serious time in prison. Jack Smith is not kidding,
    and nobody else is, either.
    Jack Smith has lost more cases than he has won, he is a loser, like you.

    It's time you face the music, Greg.
    You going to be very disappointed, when things don't go you way.
    Nothing new for you though, right?

    Trump's goose is cooked. He is going to prison.
    Not only is he NOT going to Jail, but Trump has lived for 77 years and all of this time he has not faced one indictment to the kind he is facing now.
    Tell me again, how this is a not a political circus.

    And then the American people (and the world) will forget about him.
    or there could be another civil war, and I will playing for the Red team.
    You really want a re-match? How about we just duke it out here with words. You're a lightweight & you don't present any challenge in the slightest of measure.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Aug 6 08:18:08 2023
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    You going to be very disappointed, when things don't go you way.
    Nothing new for you though, right?

    That's why Lee (and other Ignorant Elitists) are always mad. Reality will not conform to their Narrative.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Aug 6 09:19:00 2023
    I think today is the last day I respond to Mr. Man... He is willfully ignorant.
    It's okay to have an opinion, or opine, but MY GOD... completely ignore US hist
    ory, the constitution and US law is an other.

    If you ask him for examples, he will very rarely give any and will often
    claim it is your responsibility to find the references that prove his point.

    Makes me wonder how debate classes are taught in that area.

    Teacher: "And what case/article do you base you position on?"

    Student: "Because I said so! It is your job to figure out my references.
    But here are a few that prove a point I was not originally making."

    Teacher: "That is the strongest debate stance I have ever witnessed! A+!"


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Sun Aug 6 08:23:00 2023
    I don't know who, if anyone, Al is thinking of. The case I have heard others mention is the recent one involving the solider from the Pentagon.

    That is the case I am thinking of. I forget the young mans's name.

    He not only had documents he shouldn't, he tried peddling the information over the Internet, which was what made his charges worse and landed him in jail. The cases are not actually similar.

    I thought he was simply showing off the document. Sound familiar?

    Show me where Trump was trying to sell the documents over the Internet for money. Otherwise, no, it does not sound at all familiar.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Sun Aug 6 08:31:00 2023
    There have been many. Look it up.

    It is up to you to put up or shut up. You claim there are many others. Please supply examples, including how the crimes are similar and remembering that Trump is not currently charged with trying to sell any of the document contents.

    Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.

    Do you really need me to look that up for you?

    The Espionage Act is very broad. A person can be charged or accused of violating it for a wide range of offenses, some *much* more serious (and completely different) than others.

    What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and
    was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that Trump
    is accused of. THAT was your claim.

    So far, all you have given us is "I don't remember his name."

    I am not going to do research to prove *your* point. That is up to you to
    do. If there are so many examples of persons who have recently done
    exactly what Trump is accused of, and had to stay in prison awaiting trial,
    you should have no problem producing at least one example.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Sun Aug 6 09:22:00 2023
    Robert Birchum, 2023

    Birchum, who was an Air Force lieutenant colonel with a decorated 29-year mili
    ry career, pleaded guilty in February to one count of violating the willful re
    ntion of national defense information provision after investigators discovered
    uring the first month of the Trump presidency in 2017 that Birchum had stored re than 300 classified documents or files in his home, a storage pod on his pr
    erty and his officer.s quarters overseas. Birchum was not charged with spying
    giving the documents to anyone, and he cooperated with investigators and conv
    ed remorse . but a Trump-appointed judge sentenced him this month to 3 years i
    prison.

    Your claim was that people were kept in prison awaiting trial while Trump
    is free to campaign. Trump has not been sentenced yet. You have not
    proven here that someone was kept in prison for doing the same thing as
    Trump *while awaiting trial*.

    You HAVE proven that someone else did EXACTLY what Joe Biden did (storing documents in his home AND cooperating) and was charged, found guilty, and
    put in prison for it.

    So the next time you try to tell us that Biden didn't do anything wrong, I
    now have a reference to show what another did and what happened to them. Thanks!!!

    Kendra Kingsbury, 2022

    Kingsbury, who was an analyst for the FBI, pleaded guilty in 2022 to two count
    of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision a
    er she was indicted by a federal grand jury in 2021 for possessing classified cuments in her home. The Justice Department said Kingsbury took home approxima
    ly 386 classified documents from work over more than 12 years, including secre
    information related to counterterrorism intelligence sources and methods, open
    nvestigations, the FBI.s technical capabilities, intelligence gaps, and al Qae
    in Africa. Kingsbury, who was not charged with spying or giving documents to yone, is scheduled to be sentenced next week.

    Your claim was that people were kept in prison awaiting trial while Trump
    is free to campaign. Trump has not been sentenced yet. You have not
    proven here that someone was kept in prison for doing the same thing while awaiting trial.

    Also sounds similar to what Joe Biden did, except this lady got charged and plead guilty.

    Jeremy Brown, 2022

    Brown, a retired Army Special Forces sergeant who later became involved with f
    -right group the Oath Keepers and ran for the Florida state House as a Republi
    n, was convicted by a federal jury in 2022 for both possession of unregistered
    renades and guns and for violating the willful retention of national defense i
    ormation provision. When the FBI searched Brown.s home in 2021 upon arresting m over his alleged involvement in the pro-Trump riot at the US Capitol on Janu
    y 6, 2021, they found the unlawful weapons and a classified .Trip Report. he h
    written in 2011 about the search in Afghanistan for missing soldier Bowe Berg
    hl. Brown was sentenced in April to 7 years and 3 months in prison, though not
    olely over the classified document.

    Your claim was that people were kept in prison awaiting trial for retention
    of documents while Trump is free to campaign. Trump was not in possession of any unregistered weapons. People who are in trouble on weapons charges are considred to pose a different risk and are often kept in jail awaiting trial (although you didn't prove that Brown was).

    That part sounds more familiar to what Hunter Biden did. He is not being
    kept in jail for his weapons charge while the courts decide whether or not
    to accept his plea deal.

    Please provide examples of persons who were kept in jail, awaiting trial,
    for the willful retention of documents, which is what Trump is accused of
    and which is what you claimed has happened to others.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Aug 6 09:22:00 2023
    The crimes involved classified documents. Small change compared to >> >> Donald.

    You're parroting, bigtime!

    I'm not parroting anything/anyone.

    I'm just pointing out that others have been jailed because of these >> types of crimes. Many times.

    Here are a few I found simply with google.


    The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was found ilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. How man
    grenades did they catch Trump with?

    Remember that Al's original claim was that several people have done the
    same thing that Trump is accused of AND were kept in jail awaiting trial
    while Trump is out campaigning as a free man.

    None of his examples showed this to be true. If anything, Al provided two examples of people who did what Joe Biden did, got charged, found guilty,
    and put in jail. He also provided one example of someone who had weapons charges, like Hunter but who, unlike Hunter, may have been kept in jail awaiting trial on said charges.

    He is trying to change the argument without admitting he was initially
    wrong. No one is going to claim that people have not been found guilty of violating the Espionage Act because we are all too smart to think that
    would be true. An unrelated case of such was discussed here just last week.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Sun Aug 6 09:08:00 2023
    The first 2 plead guilty, that's why they went to jail. The 3rd one was foun
    guilty, and that's why he went to jail. Plus he was found with grenades. How
    many grenades did they catch Trump with?

    I'm not talking convictions, I am simply saying that many others have been cha
    ed under the espionage act, grenades or not.

    Which was NOT your original point.

    Please provide evidence of persons who retained documents, but who didn't
    try to sell them or post them on the Internet, who were kept in jail
    awaiting trial. That was your original point.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 6 11:17:16 2023
    grenades did they catch Trump with?

    Remember that Al's original claim was that several people have done the same thing that Trump is accused of AND were kept in jail awaiting trial while Trump is out campaigning as a free man.

    He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's on a mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.

    It makes me wonder if there's money in it? Can I get rich by defending all things leftist?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Aug 6 18:35:14 2023
    Hello Greg,

    Trump is facing 4 indictments, and could be sentenced to 5, 10,
    or 20 years. Quite a stretch for man his age. The charges are real,
    and he is facing serious time in prison. Jack Smith is not kidding,
    and nobody else is, either.

    Jack Smith has lost more cases than he has won, he is a loser, like you.

    Special Counsel Jack Smith has a reputation for winning tough cases
    against war criminals, mobsters and crooked cops. He is a Harvard Law
    School graduate who is not affiliated with any political party, who
    started as a prosecutor in 1994 at the Manhattan DA's office - his
    main gig prosecuting mob bosses.

    He also spent time to supervise war crime prosecutions at the
    International Criminal Court in The Hague.

    It is very easy to eee why AG Merrick Garland appointed him Special
    Counsel. And also why President Joe Biden is so pleased.

    It's time you face the music, Greg.

    You going to be very disappointed, when things don't go you way.
    Nothing new for you though, right?

    When Donald Trump walked into the court room the other day he was
    mad. When he sat down and had to wait for over twenty minutes before
    anybody said anything to him it got worse, as he got madder. So mad
    that one could see steam coming out of both his ears. Fortunately
    for all inside the courtroom he did not explode and no cleanup crew
    was required.

    Trump's goose is cooked. He is going to prison.

    Not only is he NOT going to Jail, but Trump has lived for 77 years and all of this time he has not faced one indictment to the kind he is facing now.

    Jail is only a holding place for those waiting to be convicted
    and sentenced. Trump was booked and fingerprinted, but no mug shot
    taken due to himself being one of the most photographed people in
    the world (as well as most easily recognized). But once the jury
    renders its verdict of guilty, he will be led out of the court
    and given a new set of orange clothes to wear, and taken directly
    to prison.

    Tell me again, how this is a not a political circus.

    The news media will cover the story when the prison gates close
    with Donald Trump inside.

    And then the American people (and the world) will forget about LL>him.

    or there could be another civil war, and I will playing for the Red team.

    This is not a game, or sporting event. Although some misguided souls
    might think it is. The participants on January 6 most certainly did.
    And many innocent people were harmed, some even killed, as a result.
    Hundreds of people have been arrested, charged, and convicted. This
    was not an act of politics, but an act of a domestic terrorist cult.

    And we all know who the leader of that domestic terrorist cult is.

    You really want a re-match?

    Donald J. Trump will be in prison. Kind of hard to lead a domestic
    terrorist cult from prison. Or write a book. Like Hitler.

    How about we just duke it out here with words.

    Donald Trump has his Truth Social.
    Not sure if he will have access while in prison.

    You're a lightweight & you don't present any challenge in the slightest of measure.

    Surviving twenty years in the slammer will be quite a challenge
    for a fat man who loves junk food and diet coke.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 6 13:58:40 2023
    I thought he was simply showing off the document. Sound familiar?

    Show me where Trump was trying to sell the documents over the Internet for money. Otherwise, no, it does not sound at all familiar.

    It's familiar to me. He was showing off the documents to folks without access to the documents. That's what Trump did (among other things).

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 6 14:07:40 2023
    Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act.

    Do you really need me to look that up for you?

    The Espionage Act is very broad.

    It was said that the espionage act hadn't been used before. It was some kind of trap laid for Mr. Trump. The simple point I am making is that that is not so.

    A person can be charged or accused of violating it for a wide range of offenses, some *much* more serious (and completely different) than others.

    Yes, that is true.

    What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that Trump is accused of. THAT was your claim.

    I gave several examples yesterday.

    So far, all you have given us is "I don't remember his name."

    I don't, and I don't care! If you find it interesting then look it up.

    I am not going to do research to prove *your* point.

    No one expects you to prove my point. You haven't even proved your points.

    That is up to you to do. If there are so many examples of persons who have recently done exactly what Trump is accused of, and had to stay in prison awaiting trial, you should have no problem producing at least one example.

    The examples provided prove the point I was making.

    If you want to "prove" something else then away you go.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 6 14:21:50 2023
    Your claim was that people were kept in prison awaiting trial for retention of documents while Trump is free to campaign.

    Yes, I posted a link to that story a few months ago.

    Trump was not in possession of any unregistered weapons.

    Nobody made that claim.

    People who are in trouble on weapons charges are considred to pose a different risk and are often kept in jail awaiting trial (although you
    didn't prove that Brown was).

    Is that the guys name? There was no talk of weapons in the story I posted. Only that he shared classified documents.

    That part sounds more familiar to what Hunter Biden did.

    Yes, Hunter Biden!

    He is not being kept in jail for his weapons charge while the courts decide whether or not to accept his plea deal.

    Of course not. Hunter Biden is not a threat to anyone.

    Please provide examples of persons who were kept in jail, awaiting trial,
    for the willful retention of documents, which is what Trump is accused of
    and which is what you claimed has happened to others.

    I provided three names yesterday.

    Tell you what I am going to do. When I get some time I'll look it up and see if I can find the story agian, and share it agian, just for you.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 6 14:24:20 2023
    Which was NOT your original point.

    Please provide evidence of persons who retained documents, but who didn't
    try to sell them or post them on the Internet, who were kept in jail
    awaiting trial. That was your original point.

    My original point was that several others have been charged under the espionage act. I have told you this. Over and over again.

    I will look it up later today and see if I can find that story.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 6 14:28:24 2023
    Remember that Al's original claim was that several people have done the
    same thing that Trump is accused of AND were kept in jail awaiting trial
    while Trump is out campaigning as a free man.

    He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's on a mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.

    Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the espionage act.

    It makes me wonder if there's money in it? Can I get rich by defending all things leftist?

    No money, but truth is golden.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 6 14:56:14 2023
    Indeed there are many others who have been charged under the espionage act. >> Do you really need me to look that up for you?
    The Espionage Act is very broad. A person can be charged or accused of violating it for a wide range of offenses, some *much* more serious (and completely different) than others.
    What you need to show us are the exact cases where someone got charged, and was kept in prison awaiting trial, for violating it in the manner that Trump is accused of. THAT was your claim.

    Here is an update on the Jack Teixeira case.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jack-teixeira-guardsman-accused-of-leaking-to p-secret-information-due-in-court-in-boston/ar-AA1egTsz

    Here's a tiny url in case the above breaks for you.

    https://tinyurl.com/2vvnnenv

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Sun Aug 6 19:57:20 2023
    He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.

    Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the espionage act.

    You said something like "others have been held in jail for similar charges" which is sorta true, but they were suspects who had plead guilty and 1 was found guilty.

    Don't let this dose of reallity blind you: There are people behind bars for illegal gun possession, but not Hunter. (Special treatment is for Democrats and their family members.)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 6 18:32:02 2023
    He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's >> > mission to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.

    Mike is lying to you. My point was that many have been charged under the
    espionage act.

    You said something like "others have been held in jail for similar charges" which is sorta true, but they were suspects who had plead guilty and 1 was found guilty.

    It was simply true.

    Don't let this dose of reallity blind you: There are people behind bars for illegal gun possession, but not Hunter. (Special treatment is for Democrats and their family members.)

    Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a gun.

    What shall we convict hunter of today?

    Guns are not uncommon in the USA.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 7 07:24:14 2023
    Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a gun.

    Hunter Biden was charged with possession of a firearm while an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance, which carries a potential prison term of up to 10 years.

    What shall we convict hunter of today?
    There should be no more sweetheart deals for Hunter specially surrounding or offering immunity for crimes that are discovered in the future.
    What a bonehead. The media tells us this was a Trump Judge, this should be the commonsense of ANY Judge. No one should provide a get out of Jail Free card.

    Guns are not uncommon in the USA.
    You should know what is also uncommon?
    Lying on the application to acquire a firearm, because he thought he is better then anyone else or that the laws are for other people.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 7 07:47:36 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-

    Teacher: "That is the strongest debate stance I have ever witnessed!
    A+!"

    Oh how far the schools have fallen.

    If I had done that in my high school debate class, my teacher would have failed me.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 7 08:01:40 2023
    illegal gun possession, but not Hunter. (Special treatment is for AI> AI> > > Democr
    and their family members.)

    Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a gun.

    What shall we convict hunter of today?

    Guns are not uncommon in the USA.

    There are lots of local news stories of people going to jail for illegal gun possession. Felons can't have them, if the guns are unregistered then nobody can have them, if they are a banned model, nobody can have them. Illegal gun possession is a real thing. It don't matter if they used it to threaten somebody or not. All that matters, is whether or not they have elite status.

    Do you have elite status? Or do you aspire to gain that status someday?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Aug 7 10:40:00 2023
    Remember that Al's original claim was that several people have done the same thing that Trump is accused of AND were kept in jail awaiting trial while Trump is out campaigning as a free man.

    He's either on a mission to be correct about something political or he's on a ssion to defend all things leftist, but he can't have it both ways.

    I am pretty certain it is a last word thing. He keeps going on and on,
    moving the goal posts and claiming that was what he meant all along, or
    going on with some other drivel with no references to back it up, until we finally give up. Somehow having that last word makes him correct when, in reality, that is very, very rarely the case.

    One thing he has proven beyond doubt is that, if he does provide proof of
    his stance, he has not read the articles.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Aug 7 12:34:08 2023
    Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a
    gun.

    Hunter Biden was charged with possession of a firearm while an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance, which carries a potential prison term of up to 10 years.

    Sure, and Hunter is in court currently. The outcome will be known soon enough.

    What shall we convict hunter of today?
    There should be no more sweetheart deals for Hunter specially surrounding or offering immunity for crimes that are discovered in the future.
    What a bonehead. The media tells us this was a Trump Judge, this should be the commonsense of ANY Judge. No one should provide a get out of Jail Free card.

    Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal or a get out of jail free card.

    Guns are not uncommon in the USA.
    You should know what is also uncommon?
    Lying on the application to acquire a firearm, because he thought he is better then anyone else or that the laws are for other people.

    True, liars and lies continue. There is nothing new about that.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 7 12:39:52 2023
    There are lots of local news stories of people going to jail for illegal gun possession. Felons can't have them, if the guns are unregistered then nobody can have them, if they are a banned model, nobody can have them. Illegal gun possession is a real thing. It don't matter if they used it to threaten somebody or not. All that matters, is whether or not they have elite status.

    Indeed the number of guns, legal and illegal in the USA is astounding.

    Do you have elite status? Or do you aspire to gain that status someday?

    I am hardly elite. I've been a working stiff my whole life living paycheck to paycheck.

    I suppose I could have made different decisions and perhaps done "better" but I think I could have done worse also.

    I would sum up my status as "OK".

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 7 12:43:22 2023
    So the judge concluded that this person might pose a threat to the community and may flee if released. Trump, by your own admission is campaigning to be President and, since he cannot be President if he flees the country, is not a flight risk. You have also shown no proof that he himself is any more of a threat to the community whether free or behind bars.

    So, again, surprise you have not proven anything.

    I am not trying to "prove" anything.

    It is common for folks charged under the espionage act to be jailed awaiting their court date.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 7 17:50:54 2023
    On 07 Aug 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Hunter never used the gun in a crime. He didn't threaten anyone with a >> gun.

    Hunter Biden was charged with possession of a firearm while an unlawful u
    of or addicted to any controlled substance, which carries a potential pri
    term of up to 10 years.

    Sure, and Hunter is in court currently. The outcome will be known soon enough.

    What shall we convict hunter of today?
    There should be no more sweetheart deals for Hunter specially surrounding
    offering immunity for crimes that are discovered in the future.
    What a bonehead. The media tells us this was a Trump Judge, this should b
    the commonsense of ANY Judge. No one should provide a get out of Jail Fre
    card.

    Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal or a get out of jail free card.

    Now you should really know better then to question me.
    Specially when you know that I will provide FACTS to the contrary.
    Here ya go the following proves that you were 100% incorrect with your statement.

    Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek.
    Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During Hearing Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj

    Hunter Biden's plea agreement fell apart halfway into a court hearing on Wednesday, a shocking twist that cost the president's son the "sweetheart deal" he had secured with federal prosecutors only for a revised, more limited deal to be agreed on later but put on hold.

    Under the initial plea deal, Biden was expected to plead guilty to two misdemeanors for failing to pay his federal taxes on time in 2017 and 2018, while avoiding being prosecuted for a felony gun charge illegally possessing a firearm as a drug user.

    But both sides said the bargain was off the table after U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, who is presiding over the case in Wilmington, Delaware, questioned if the deal offered the president's son blanket immunity from prosecution in his plea dealings or only for his tax offenses. After the top prosecutor said it would not offer sweeping immunity, Biden's attorney
    declared the agreement "null and void."

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Aug 7 16:30:16 2023
    Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal or a get out of jail free card.

    Now you should really know better then to question me.
    Specially when you know that I will provide FACTS to the contrary.

    That would be refreshing. It hasn't happened before and I don't expect it to happen today, or ever.

    Here ya go the following proves that you were 100% incorrect with your statement.

    Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek.
    Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During Hearing Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj

    It's true that Hunter's plea deal fell apart. Nevertheless, it was not a "sweetheart" deal.

    But both sides said the bargain was off the table after U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, who is presiding over the case in Wilmington, Delaware, questioned if the deal offered the president's son blanket immunity from prosecution in his plea dealings or only for his tax offenses. After the top prosecutor said it would not offer sweeping immunity, Biden's attorney declared the agreement "null and void."

    I am aware of all that.

    Just how this will proceed I don't know, and I don't care.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 7 18:32:22 2023
    possession is a real thing. It don't matter if they used it to threaten somebody or not. All that matters, is whether or not they have elite AI> > sta

    Indeed the number of guns, legal and illegal in the USA is astounding.

    It's a problem. Innocent people are getting killed by bullets too often. But we'll just ignore that issue if that's what it takes to protect good ol' Hunter.

    Do you have elite status? Or do you aspire to gain that status someday?

    I am hardly elite. I've been a working stiff my whole life living
    paycheck to paycheck.

    Members of the Canadian Liberal Party aren't as oppressive as America's Democrat Party is. They build security fences around their vacation homes and workplaces while forcing us to contend with an influx of millions of illegal immigrants. It's not fair, and they don't deserve all the praise you give them.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 7 17:33:44 2023
    Indeed the number of guns, legal and illegal in the USA is astounding.

    It's a problem. Innocent people are getting killed by bullets too often. But we'll just ignore that issue if that's what it takes to protect good ol' Hunter.

    Are we still talking about Hunter? ;)

    Hunter has the same issue with guns and gun laws as anyone else.

    I am hardly elite. I've been a working stiff my whole life living
    paycheck to paycheck.

    Members of the Canadian Liberal Party aren't as oppressive as America's Democrat Party is. They build security fences around their vacation homes and workplaces while forcing us to contend with an influx of millions of illegal immigrants. It's not fair, and they don't deserve all the praise you give them.

    I haven't given liberals (or anyone else) any praise.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 7 22:29:22 2023
    Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek. Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During Hearing Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj

    It's true that Hunter's plea deal fell apart. Nevertheless, it was not a "sweetheart" deal.
    Sweeping immunity for past and future offenses not yet discovered?
    That's sickening sweet; like the kind of sweet that is found on a birthday cake from the supermarket.

    What do you think the outcome would be for the rest of us with those same
    kind offensives. hmmm? Yeah? I thought so....

    But both sides said the bargain was off the table after U.S. District Jud
    Maryellen Noreika, who is presiding over the case in Wilmington, Delaware
    questioned if the deal offered the president's son blanket immunity from prosecution in his plea dealings or only for his tax offenses. After the
    prosecutor said it would not offer sweeping immunity, Biden's attorney declared the agreement "null and void."

    Just how this will proceed I don't know, and I don't care.
    You have been carrying in here for quite some time, dodging, weaving and ducking that is all over now. I think you care a great deal because you were the one who said that Hunter did not receive a sweetheart deal.
    It is obvious to anyone with a scintilla of a brain. Don't care, indeed. Bottom-line his lawyers got greedy. Which is why he walked out court with his proverbial tail tucked between his legs with no deal.

    Sweeping Immunity? Now theres a subject to discuss around the water cooler.
    He is guilty as sin and so is his geriatric father as well.

    If your going to peddle any more garage in here, remember I will be watching. I will counter you move for move. Choose wisely.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Aug 7 21:08:46 2023
    What do you think the outcome would be for the rest of us with those same kind offensives. hmmm? Yeah? I thought so....

    The same as Hunter if your crime was the same as Hunter.

    Just how this will proceed I don't know, and I don't care.
    You have been carrying in here for quite some time, dodging, weaving and ducking that is all over now. I think you care a great deal because you were the one who said that Hunter did not receive a sweetheart deal.
    It is obvious to anyone with a scintilla of a brain. Don't care, indeed. Bottom-line his lawyers got greedy. Which is why he walked out court with his proverbial tail tucked between his legs with no deal.

    I don't care much about Hunter. It's a right wing fantasy.

    Sweeping Immunity? Now theres a subject to discuss around the water cooler. He is guilty as sin and so is his geriatric father as well.

    Sweeping immunity? I haven't heard that one before.

    If your going to peddle any more garage in here, remember I will be watching. I will counter you move for move. Choose wisely.

    Uh huh.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Aug 8 07:40:26 2023
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Now you should really know better then to question me.
    Specially when you know that I will provide FACTS to the contrary.

    But remember that facts don't matter to people like Alan.

    Their Narrative is true, no matter how many facts you bring to show that it's false.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Tue Aug 8 08:02:00 2023
    Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal or a get out of jail free card.

    Now you should really know better then to question me.
    Specially when you know that I will provide FACTS to the contrary.
    Here ya go the following proves that you were 100% incorrect with your stateme
    .

    Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek.
    Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During Hearing Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj

    LOL, I am sure he will worm his way right out if this, with some "proof"
    that he never really said Hunter never got a "sweetheart" deal. ;)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Tue Aug 8 08:10:00 2023
    If your going to peddle any more garbage in here, remember I will be watching. >I will counter you move for move. Choose wisely.

    (1) glad I am not the only one
    (2) he has to have some wisdom to choose wisely so don't expect that from
    him.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Aug 8 23:29:50 2023
    Hello Greg,

    Source: https://www.newsweek.com (it's pretty bad if it's Newsweek.
    Title: Hunter Biden's 'Sweetheart' Plea Deal Falls Apart During
    Hearing
    Website: https://tinyurl.com/2bka2ewj

    It's true that Hunter's plea deal fell apart. Nevertheless, it was
    not a
    "sweetheart" deal.

    Sweeping immunity for past and future offenses not yet discovered?
    That's sickening sweet; like the kind of sweet that is found on a birthday cake from the supermarket.

    One cannot be tried twice for the same crime. That has always been
    a part of our system of justice. If new evidence is found, that is a
    different matter. But one cannot be tried forever and ever and some
    folks would like things to be.

    What do you think the outcome would be for the rest of us with those same kind offensives. hmmm? Yeah? I thought so....

    Hunter Biden's lawyer rejected the plea deal, and for good reason.
    His client remains free, and not guilty of having committed any crime.

    Most of the American people prefer this system of justice rather
    than that of a kangaroo court, which is what Russia and some other
    countries have.

    But both sides said the bargain was off the table after U.S.
    District Jud
    Maryellen Noreika, who is presiding over the case in Wilmington,
    Delaware
    questioned if the deal offered the president's son blanket immunity
    from
    prosecution in his plea dealings or only for his tax offenses.
    After the
    prosecutor said it would not offer sweeping immunity, Biden's
    attorney
    declared the agreement "null and void."

    Just how this will proceed I don't know, and I don't care.

    You have been carrying in here for quite some time, dodging, weaving and ducking that is all over now. I think you care a great deal because you were the one who said that Hunter did not receive a sweetheart deal.

    Not all first offenses require time in prison. Most are suspended
    sentences, especially for non-violent crimes. As such, the plea deal
    was far from what anybody would call a "sweetheart deal".

    It is obvious to anyone with a scintilla of a brain. Don't care, indeed. Bottom-line his lawyers got greedy. Which is why he walked out court with his proverbial tail tucked between his legs with no deal.

    Hunter Biden is still a free man. And that irks you. I love it.

    Sweeping Immunity?

    No individual can be charged with the same crime more than once.
    That is one of the bedrocks of our system of justice.

    Now theres a subject to discuss around the water cooler.
    He is guilty as sin and so is his geriatric father as well.

    No trial needed! Just lock him up! And while your at it, lock her
    (Hillary) up, too!. What fools! Next thing you know, you'll want to
    imitate Vladimir Putin and do away with elections (once you get your
    highness Donald Trump back in office).

    If your going to peddle any more garage in here, remember I will be watching. I will counter you move for move. Choose wisely.

    Relax. He's from Canada. Has free air conditioning up there.
    We've had 10 straight days of heat over 100 degrees down here
    in the Swamp.

    For Life,
    Lee

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