• Re: Moderates

    From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 22 08:04:28 2023
    Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

    I like what I'm hearing from everyone about "moderates."

    Do you know other people who you'd consider "moderate?" I just don't see them anywhere (except for you.) But of course not everyone tells me their political beliefs.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sat Jul 22 10:29:00 2023
    Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally
    among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

    I am not sure that would be accurate, though. I know people who consider themselves conservative because they believe in God and check other boxes
    but, when it comes election time, the likelihood of them voting for anyone
    who is not a Democrat, even if the candidate leans very left, is very slim.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 23 00:16:00 2023
    On 07-22-23 08:04, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Moderates <=-


    Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

    I like what I'm hearing from everyone about "moderates."

    Do you know other people who you'd consider "moderate?" I
    just don't see them anywhere (except for you.) But of
    course not everyone tells me their political beliefs.

    Yes I do know other moderates. The problem is that many (most?)
    moderates keep quiet unless there is some issue that is especially
    important to them. It is the ultra liberals and ultra conservatives who
    are the vocal majority who make the most noise, not all of which is true factual. My passion is to correct what I see as fake noise -- no matter
    who says it.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sun Jul 23 00:22:02 2023
    On 07-22-23 10:29, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Moderates <=-


    Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally
    among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

    I am not sure that would be accurate, though. I know people who
    consider themselves conservative because they believe in God and check other boxes but, when it comes election time, the likelihood of them voting for anyone who is not a Democrat, even if the candidate leans
    very left, is very slim.

    Note that I said "statistics" and not "antedotes". Individual
    observations mean very little when talking about the nation as a whole.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sun Jul 23 07:56:00 2023
    Moderates like me are a real thing. I also think that if we could get statistics on where voters placed themselves, it would divide equally among liberals, moderates and conservatives.

    I am not sure that would be accurate, though. I know people who consider themselves conservative because they believe in God and check other boxes but, when it comes election time, the likelihood of them voting for anyone who is not a Democrat, even if the candidate leans very left, is very slim.

    Note that I said "statistics" and not "antedotes". Individual
    observations mean very little when talking about the nation as a whole.

    And my point is that you are going to get people who place themselves innaccurately (when compared to how they vote) in those statistics.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jul 23 08:21:00 2023
    Mike has said before that he too believes that moderates exist. I hope you guys are right about that. I just don't personally know any.

    I personally don't know of any either... Ever since Barry & Mike hit the
    cene
    oderates are as scarce as hen's teeth. Maybe they are just being quiet
    ecaus
    they don't want to get canceled buy the left.

    You are making me want to change my name. :)

    I think you are right about the cancelling thing. Then again, I have some leftist friends who believe that there is no radical left and that they are moderates. Knowing that they supported the antics of Antifa in 2020, I
    wanted to ask them if they really believe that Antifa is a arm of the
    "radical middle" but I didn't want to get drawn into their yelling/cursing others into submission routine.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Mon Jul 24 06:54:50 2023
    Hello Mike,

    You are making me want to change my name. :)

    "Make my day, punk!" ~Dirty Harry Callahan

    For Life,
    Lee

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