• FBI

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 8 09:35:30 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Trump is completely exonerated, as per the report.

    Trump was not exonerated. He was acquitted by the Senate.
    Impeached by the House. Twice. But never exonerated of anything.


    exonerate - to declare or prove blameless
    acquit - to clear a person of a charge

    Please do note the difference.

    He was impeached twice and found not guilty twice...

    Trump was never shown to be blameless. Just because not enough
    Senators voted to remove him from office does not clear his name.
    In fact, no defense at all was made on his behalf during the
    second trial. What a sad commentary on your beloved Republican
    Party, every member knowing he was guilty as sin.

    NOTE the difference.

    He was not removed from office by the Senate. Although there is
    no doubt he should have been.

    Had he been found guilty he would not be able to run today...

    The question was should he be removed from office, not whether
    he was guilty or not guilty of charges made by the House.

    Remember, no defense at all was made on Trump's behalf during the
    second trial. And only a very feeble one during his first trial.

    Now we have MAGA 2.0

    Trump is no longer POTUS. And likely never will be again.
    Regardless of how many MAGA nutjobs there are, or might be.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 8 15:28:10 2023
    Hello Joe,

    The Director of the FBI serves a 10-year term, having been nominated
    by the President and confirmed by the Senate, meaning that he/she does
    *not* serve at the POTUS pleasure.

    Not true

    The FBI is led by a Director, who is appointed by the US President
    and confirmed by the Senate for a term not to exceed 10 years.

    That is from the FBI website.

    One of Regan FBI directors was fired... So, Comey was the 2nd to be fired.

    Excuse me?

    Please do not embarrass yourself.

    In 1993, President Bill Clinton fired FBI Director William Sessions.
    He was the first to have been fired. For cause, rather than politics.

    President Donald Trump fired FBI Director James Comey. He was the
    second to have been fired. For politics, rather than cause.

    Remember, this is the FBI Director, not a justice on the Supreme
    Court or federal judge, who can only be thrown out by impeachment
    by the House and removal from office by the Senate.

    As such, a director serves at the pleasure of the president.
    And then only because the Congress has chosen not to limit a
    presidents powers in that way.

    If you spent 2 seconds on Google you would find out that he can...

    Google is a search engine, having no authority whatsoever.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Jun 8 07:56:08 2023
    On 08 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Google is a search engine, having no authority whatsoever.

    I didn't say it was an authority... BUT it did show that Comey was the second FBI directory to be fired by a president. And we learned by his own admission and the Durham report that he was directly involved in Russia collusion scam.
    He was the one that said in a recent interview with Jen Nutt Scaky that he is worried that Trump will hold them all accountable.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Jun 8 10:47:40 2023
    On 08 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    Trump was never shown to be blameless. Just because not enough
    Senators voted to remove him from office does not clear his name.
    In fact, no defense at all was made on his behalf during the
    second trial. What a sad commentary on your beloved Republican
    Party, every member knowing he was guilty as sin.


    "At the trial, 57 senators voted "guilty", which was less than the two-thirds majority needed (67) to convict Trump, and 43 senators voted "not guilty", resulting in Trump being acquitted of the charges on February 13, 2021.[15]"

    Above snippet from WikipediA...

    Maybe the facts didn't support the democrats claims... They presented the evidence and it wasn't enough to convict... or whatever it was they were trying to do. Impeach, try to remove someone from office that was no longer in office... some thing's up... Now the video tapes, as well as some testimony has been released showing the powers-to-be more culpable than they claimed Trump ever was... Civil suites are being filed on the January 6th comity ... the truth always seems to find it's way out.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Thu Jun 8 18:35:00 2023
    "The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but did NOT find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired
    coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple
    f
    rts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."

    Here is what I don't understand. If you listen to HRC and her followers,
    Biden and his, many other Democrats, and most leftist, it is Republicans
    and "right-wingers" who are likely to believe crazy conspiracy theories
    that the learn from internet sources. Those same folks will also point out that Democrats and their voters are allegedly smarter -- too smart to fall
    for such nonsense.

    Yet, in order to fully believe there was Russian interference, and that the interference was actually affective, you have to believe just the opposite.
    You have to believe that somehow, despite being smarter and less easily mislead by internet nonsense, the potential 2016 HRC voters were somehow
    easily mislead by the Russian disinformation that they encountered on
    social media and wherever else.

    So, which is it? Are the Democrats and their potential voters really that
    much smarter and savvy that they don't fall for such things (meaning the Russian disinformation campaign actually had little affect on anything), or
    do most Democrats lie about how smart their potential voters are?

    I honestly believe the latter. They are just as likely to be caught in disinformation they read on social media as anyone else... maybe more so,
    since they traditionally are more likely to participate on multiple social media platforms.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Thu Jun 8 18:40:00 2023
    I do not see at all how this could remotely be a
    possibility if it has already been established that neither
    the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired
    or coordinated with the Russian government.

    No one has said that there was conspiracy or coordination.

    Maybe you did not, but I know we had at least two regular posters... one
    who is still posting and one that has disappeared... who claimed that
    Russian collusion with the Trump campaign was fact.

    IIRC, both Adam Schiff (many times) and Nancy Pelosi (at least once) also claimed it was fact.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 9 10:17:50 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Google is a search engine, having no authority whatsoever.

    I didn't say it was an authority...

    It is just a search engine. As are many others. None of them
    are an authority. On anything.

    BUT it did show that Comey was the second FBI directory to be fired by a president.

    Google is also not a source. For anything. It is just a search
    engine. It does exactly what it was designed to do. It searches.

    And we learned by his own admission and the Durham report that he was directly involved in Russia collusion scam.

    Did he mention Paul Manafort? And let's not forget about Trump's
    pardon of Paul Manafort. So please. Let's not leave out the real
    facts. The facts that really matter.

    He was the one that said in a recent interview with Jen Nutt Scaky that he is worried that Trump will hold them all accountable.

    Who is going to hold Trump accountable for his pardon of Paul
    Manafort? Certainly not Vladimir Putin and his pals ...

    For Life,
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Fri Jun 9 07:51:52 2023
    I stated the facts, not liberal nor conservative. You are the one
    trying to create an argument against a narrative that was never stated.
    I am not buying your innocent elixir, or that I am trying to create any such argument. The entirety of lets get Trump on charges is wrong.
    More on this later but first due to time restraints, work block at
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 9 17:58:12 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Trump was never shown to be blameless. Just because not enough
    Senators voted to remove him from office does not clear his name.
    In fact, no defense at all was made on his behalf during the
    second trial. What a sad commentary on your beloved Republican
    Party, every member knowing he was guilty as sin.

    "At the trial, 57 senators voted "guilty", which was less than the two-thirds majority needed (67) to convict Trump, and 43 senators voted "not guilty", resulting in Trump being acquitted of the charges on February
    13, 2021.[15]"

    It takes two-thirds of those voting to remove a president from
    office. Not two-thirds of the entire membership of the Senate.
    That is why none of the "crimes" the House had charged him with
    mattered. The only question on the ballot was should the bastard
    be removed from office? If two-thirds of those voting had said
    "yes" it would have been "Bye-Bye".

    IOW, hot enough Senators voted to remove him from office, in both
    trials. Of course, had they done so in the first trial there would
    have been no second trial.

    Above snippet from WikipediA...

    Nobody gives a sh*t about Wikipedia. It is the facts that count.
    Not hearsay (which is not evidence).

    If the House had impeached him for picking his nose, and the
    Senate chosen to use that as its basis for removing him from office,
    that would have been as good a "crime" as any.

    The Senate failed to remove him from office. That is the bottom
    line. That is what happens when members of the Republican Party fail
    to hold their leader accountable - for anything.

    Maybe the facts didn't support the democrats claims...

    What are the facts? There are no facts.

    Republican Senators put forth NO DEFENSE in response to the case
    made against Donald Trump in his second trial. That is an admission
    of guilt. Even though not enough Senators voted to remove him from
    office, he was still guilty as sin. And every Senator, regardless
    of party affiliation, knew it.

    They presented the evidence and it wasn't enough to convict...

    The defense put forth NO DEFENSE, which is an admission of guilt.
    The fact that not enough Senators voted to remove him from office
    changes nothing.

    In the first trial very little was presented in defense of his
    actions. Not that there was any real defense for what he did.

    or whatever it was they were trying to do.

    The prosecution proved its case. In both trials.

    Impeach, try to remove someone from office that was no longer in office...

    Articles of Impeachment were filed, and passed, while he was still
    in office. That is what the House does, in due accordance with the
    US Constitution.

    The Senate has a different job to do. And can do so even after
    the accused has left office.

    Please do read the US Constitution for a fuller understanding
    as to how things work.

    some thing's up...

    The House did its job, successfully impeaching Trump. In fact,
    it did so twice. Not just once.

    Now the video tapes, as well as some testimony has been released showing the
    powers-to-be more culpable than they claimed Trump ever was... Civil suites
    are being filed on the January 6th comity ... the truth always seems to find it's way out.

    The truth? You want to know the truth?

    Donald Trump lost the election and he is still crying about it.
    Along with his band of MAGA nutjobs.

    Doesn't really bother me. At all. And why should it?

    The defense presented NO DEFENSE in the second trial, and not much
    of one in the first trial. Every Senator, not just Mitt Romney, knew
    Trump was guilty as sin.

    Followers of Donald Trump have no conscience.

    For Life,
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 9 17:58:36 2023
    Hello Mike,

    I do not see at all how this could remotely be a
    possibility if it has already been established that neither
    the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired
    or coordinated with the Russian government.

    No one has said that there was conspiracy or coordination.

    Maybe you did not, but I know we had at least two regular posters... one who is still posting and one that has disappeared... who claimed that Russian collusion with the Trump campaign was fact.

    Tell us about Paul Manafort.
    And why he was convicted.

    Tell us about Trump's pardon of Paul Manafort.
    And why he pardoned the fucking traitor.

    Thanks for playing.

    IIRC, both Adam Schiff (many times) and Nancy Pelosi (at least once) also claimed it was fact.

    Paul Manafort was convicted of real crimes committed.
    Donald Trump pardoned the traitor, for reasons of his own.

    But hey. You believe whatever the fuck you want.
    I don't really give a shit.

    For Life,
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Jun 9 07:28:14 2023
    On 09 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    BUT it did show that Comey was the second FBI directory to be fired b president.

    Google is also not a source. For anything. It is just a search
    engine. It does exactly what it was designed to do. It searches.


    Right, it's not an authority... I used it to search... and I found articles... more than one... that said that Comey wasn't the first FBI director fired from a President, and he shouldn't be the last... I think Wray should be fired for what he's doing.

    Google did not act as an authority ... but it did show me some articles that showed me you were WRONG!!!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Jun 9 07:36:10 2023
    On 09 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Who is going to hold Trump accountable for his pardon of Paul
    Manafort? Certainly not Vladimir Putin and his pals ...


    I was watching a video last night where someone gave some logic as to Trump having pardoned himself before leaving office, he called it a pocket pardon.

    Constitutions says...."and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

    Quite clear in the text... only one offense where he can't pardon... Impeachment... The democrats tried twice and failed on that. It would be funny AF if he did this...

    Getting my popcorn, it's going to be an interesting 1.5 years.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Jun 9 15:01:14 2023
    On 09 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    "At the trial, 57 senators voted "guilty", which was less than the two-thirds majority needed (67) to convict Trump, and 43 senators vot "not guilty", resulting in Trump being acquitted of the charges on February
    13, 2021.[15]"

    It takes two-thirds of those voting to remove a president from
    office. Not two-thirds of the entire membership of the Senate.
    That is why none of the "crimes" the House had charged him with
    mattered. The only question on the ballot was should the bastard
    be removed from office? If two-thirds of those voting had said
    "yes" it would have been "Bye-Bye".


    No, this is completely false... After the house impeaches the president he stands in trial. The head of the Supreme court acts as the Judge and the Senators act as the jury and it takes 2/3 vote, or 67 votes out of 100 to convict. After the evidence was shown in the trial part they never got enough to convict... Ergo... Trump was exonerated... Just like a regular jury trial..

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 9 23:46:00 2023
    On 06-08-23 18:40, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: FBI <=-


    I do not see at all how this could remotely be a
    possibility if it has already been established that neither
    the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired
    or coordinated with the Russian government.

    No one has said that there was conspiracy or coordination.

    Maybe you did not, but I know we had at least two regular posters...
    one who is still posting and one that has disappeared... who claimed
    that Russian collusion with the Trump campaign was fact.

    There are multiple terms floating around. Conspiracy is a legal term,
    and can be a crime if it is conspiracy to commit a crime. Coordination
    is less well defined. Collusion is a term that has no legal meaning in
    the justice system. Mueller said that there was insufficient evidence
    to prove conspiracy (back in the 2016 campaign days). There was
    evidence of some degree of sharing of information between campaign
    individuals and Russian operatives -- but not enough to establish a
    crime.

    IIRC, both Adam Schiff (many times) and Nancy Pelosi (at least once)
    also claimed it was fact.

    I don't recall that they did, or that they did not make that claim --
    not which term they might have used -- conspiracy, collusion, or
    cooperation.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Jun 9 23:59:04 2023
    On 06-09-23 07:51, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: FBI <=-


    I stated the facts, not liberal nor conservative. You are the one
    trying to create an argument against a narrative that was never stated.

    I am not buying your innocent elixir, or that I am trying
    to create any such argument.

    The entirety of lets get Trump on charges is wrong.

    It is not "lets [sic] get Trump on charges", it is "let's charge and
    convict those who violate the law".

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 10 13:55:14 2023
    Hello Joe,

    BUT it did show that Comey was the second FBI directory to be
    fired b
    president.

    Google is also not a source. For anything. It is just a search
    engine. It does exactly what it was designed to do. It searches.


    Right, it's not an authority... I used it to search... and I found articles... more than one... that said that Comey wasn't the first FBI director fired from a President, and he shouldn't be the last... I think Wray should be fired for what he's doing.

    Biden wants to keep Wray around. At least for now. But not to
    worry. He will be letting him go, in 2007, wishing him a happy
    retirement.

    Google did not act as an authority ... but it did show me some articles that
    showed me you were WRONG!!!

    Unlike Trump, I do not claim, nor have I ever claimed, that I am
    perfect. But I could be mistaken.

    For Life,
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 10 08:35:06 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    Google did not act as an authority ... but it did show me some articles that showed me you were WRONG!!!

    Uh, oh. Lee just got triggered. Nothing infuriates an Ignorant Elistist as being shown to be wrong.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Jun 10 11:13:12 2023
    On 10 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    IB Joe wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    Google did not act as an authority ... but it did show me some articl that showed me you were WRONG!!!

    Uh, oh. Lee just got triggered. Nothing infuriates an Ignorant
    Elistist as being shown to be wrong.


    HAHAHA...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Jun 10 14:37:00 2023
    Google did not act as an authority ... but it did show me some articles that showed me you were WRONG!!!

    Uh, oh. Lee just got triggered. Nothing infuriates an Ignorant Elistist as being shown to be wrong.

    Especially the one in question.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Sun Jun 11 11:25:52 2023
    On 09 Jun 2023, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 06-09-23 07:51, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: FBI <=-


    I stated the facts, not liberal nor conservative. You are the one trying to create an argument against a narrative that was never stated

    I am not buying your innocent elixir, or that I am trying
    to create any such argument.

    The entirety of lets get Trump on charges is wrong.

    It is not "lets [sic] get Trump on charges", it is "let's charge and convict those who violate the law".

    Shouldn't the law apply to everyone equally?

    Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails from her private server that was in a broom closet (that she was not authorized to have in the first place.)
    She smashed up blackberries with a hammer, wiped servers clean
    (and no not with a cloth or something.)
    Using Bleach-bit which is a very expensive process.
    Remember what is was that James Comey said?
    "No reasonable prosecutor would bring this case."

    Sleepy Uncle Joe Biden
    Biden had 1850 boxes of classified documents that were sprawled across numerous states.

    At his Delaware home in the garage next to the corvette.

    At The Penn Biden Center
    Sources: FBI conducted undisclosed search of Biden's private office in November. WASHINGTON The FBI searched the offices of the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in mid-November after classified documents were discovered there, two senior law enforcement officials confirmed
    Tuesday.Jan 31, 2023

    Chinatown Washington, D.C.
    https://tinyurl.com/2whka6b5
    There seems to be a convincing and quite an alarming
    Chinese Communist Party connection.

    A government watchdog is demanding the US attorney probing Hunter Biden in Delaware investigate tens of millions in anonymous donations from China to the University of Pennsylvania, where an academic center is named for his father, President Biden.

    The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records.

    Most of the anonymous donations came after the university announced in February 2017 that it would create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Joe Biden, whose term as vice president had just ended, was to lead the center and was also named a professor at the university.

    The center, which is located in Washington, DC, opened its doors in February 2018. Antony Blinken, whom Biden named as secretary of state, briefly served as its managing director. The very same Antony Blinken that is now Secretary of State of which was reward as seen within the url that is below.

    More on this this "Made Man" Antony (wink-wink) Blinken.
    URL: https://tinyurl.com/bdd2hzka

    SEAN HANNITY: We begin with breaking developments as it relates to the scandal in Biden's White House. It's bad. Now tonight, two top officials, Secretary of State "Tony Winking Blinken" and Attorney General "Merrick I Politicize the Justice Department Garland" have been credibly accused of serious misconduct, and it all revolves around who else? Hunter Biden. All right. Now breaking tonight, we're learning that your Secretary of State is shady, he's lying, he's a hack, he's not to be trusted. Now, remember, remember that bogus October 2020 letter? 51 former intel experts all claiming that the Hunter Biden laptop had, quote, all of the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation. They all said this with no knowledge at all whatsoever because none of them saw the laptop. Now, this is the very letter that big tech and the media mob used to discredit and censor the very true Hunter Biden laptop story only days before the 2020 presidential election.

    Therefore, it is beyond clear to determine that the Joe Biden is a criminal and it is also not a stretch to conclude that the Biden Family is a criminal family syndicate. Just follow the money of which has been uncovered in all of those Web of Shell Companies to Conceal Foreign Cash
    want more proof: https://tinyurl.com/2p9c6p8v

    Consideration of the above it is now coming into crystal clear focus as to why Merrit-LESS Garland is going after Trump.

    Garland and many Democrats, in their quest to hold Donald Trump accountable under federal statutes relating to record retention and classified information, are operating under the premise that Trump can be treated like any other government employee someone who can be caught up in a legalistic debate about the possession of documents that are arguably classified, and their responsibilities associated with such.

    But that's just not the case.

    Even if Trump did have documents that were once classified containing information critical to the nation's security, documents that he did not readily return to the National Archives or the DOJ, he may well have violated no criminal statute.

    The President of the United States has unlimited access to all classified information. Any other government employee who accesses secret or top-secret information must possess the proper security clearance to do so, which typically entails their undergoing detailed background checks, polygraphs, and continuing responsibilities to report any information that could impact their trustworthiness such as arrests, foreign contacts, and the like.

    But U.S. presidents do not possess any security clearance at all. To the contrary, the president is the [classification authority] with the power to determine who can access classified information, who can be granted security clearances (or have theirs revoked), and even to determine what is considered classified in the first place. The president possesses this power because he is entrusted, among other things, with both the command of our military forces and the international relations that we have with other countries, functions that
    obviously require access to information of the highest sensitivity.

    As seen previously it is the Democrats hands which are filthy and using these very same unwashed hands to point at Trump. Hypocrites- every last one.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Jun 12 02:30:02 2023
    On 06-11-23 11:25, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: FBI <=-


    I stated the facts, not liberal nor conservative. You are the one
    trying to create an argument against a narrative
    that was never stated

    I am not buying your innocent elixir, or that I am trying
    to create any such argument.

    The entirety of lets get Trump on charges is wrong.

    It is not "lets [sic] get Trump on charges", it is "let's charge and convict those who violate the law".

    Shouldn't the law apply to everyone equally?

    Yes.

    Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails from her private
    server that was in a broom closet (that she was not
    authorized to have in the first place.)
    She smashed up blackberries with a hammer, wiped servers clean
    (and no not with a cloth or something.)
    Using Bleach-bit which is a very expensive process.
    Remember what is was that James Comey said?
    "No reasonable prosecutor would bring this case."

    Were those emails classified? Yes, she had a private server for emails.
    That was not unusual for the previous Secretaries. I seem to recall
    that none of the emails were marked as being classified -- compare that
    to the documents that Trump had and hid. The quote from Comey implies
    that there was not enough evidence of malfeasance to prosecute.

    Sleepy Uncle Joe Biden
    Biden had 1850 boxes of classified documents that were
    sprawled across numerous states.

    And when that was discovered, he invited the DOJ to come search and
    remove any documents that should not be there. He did not hide any
    documents from DOJ.

    Chinatown Washington, D.C.
    https://tinyurl.com/2whka6b5
    There seems to be a convincing and quite an alarming
    Chinese Communist Party connection.

    I watched that video from Fox News. It was a lot of speculation and no
    proof of anything.

    <<SNIP, more "hunter biden this, hunter biden that>>
    Hunter Biden is a separate person from the President, and all of that
    yelling gave no evidence of any illegal connections.

    More on this this "Made Man" Antony (wink-wink) Blinken.
    URL: https://tinyurl.com/bdd2hzka

    More speculation and accusation without presenting any proof of
    anything.

    want more proof: https://tinyurl.com/2p9c6p8v

    I did not see proof of wrong doing. I saw information that may or may
    not lead to proof of something illegal or improper. Most of it seems to
    relate to Hunter Biden. Whether or not there is implication of
    President Biden is not stated, at least not clearly.

    Consideration of the above it is now coming into crystal
    clear focus as to why Merrit-LESS Garland is going after
    Trump.

    None of that has anything to do with the investigation and charges
    against Donald Trump -- which were not done by Merritt Garland.

    Garland and many Democrats, in their quest to hold Donald Trump accountable under federal statutes relating to record retention and classified information, are operating under the premise
    that Trump can be treated like any other government
    employee someone who can be caught up in a legalistic
    debate about the possession of documents that are arguably
    classified, and their responsibilities associated with
    such.

    But that's just not the case.

    That is exactly the case. Donald Trump is not above the law. He is a
    private citizen and is subject to the same laws as you or I.


    Even if Trump did have documents that were once classified
    containing information critical to the nation's security,
    documents that he did not readily return to the National
    Archives or the DOJ, he may well have violated no criminal
    statute.

    Not "may well have violated no criminal statute", but "did violate
    criminal statutes". Plus, the documents were not "once classified",
    they are classified.

    The President of the United States has unlimited access to all
    classified information. Any other government employee who accesses secret or top-secret information must possess the proper
    security clearance to do so, which typically entails their
    undergoing detailed background checks, polygraphs, and
    continuing responsibilities to report any information that
    could impact their trustworthiness such as arrests, foreign
    contacts, and the like.

    But U.S. presidents do not possess any security clearance at all. To
    the contrary, the president is the [classification authority]
    with the power to determine who can access classified
    information, who can be granted security clearances (or
    have theirs revoked), and even to determine what is
    considered classified in the first place. The president
    possesses this power because he is entrusted, among other
    things, with both the command of our military forces and
    the international relations that we have with other
    countries, functions that
    obviously require access to information of the highest sensitivity.

    What you say is true. But you seem to be glossing over the fact that
    Donald Trump is not the President.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Mon Jun 12 16:00:00 2023
    A government watchdog is demanding the US attorney probing Hunter Biden in
    el
    are investigate tens of millions in anonymous donations from China to the
    niv
    sity of Pennsylvania, where an academic center is named for his father,
    resid
    t Biden.

    The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through
    un
    2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts
    tart
    g in 2016, according to public records.

    I am not at all shocked that a communist country is financially investing
    in US colleges and universities. I don't believe it should be allowed, but
    I am not shocked in the least bit.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Thu Jul 13 12:27:00 2023
    I read an article the other day... GWP... The FBI posted on Twitter that they wanted the public to report crimes if they were aware of any being committed...

    HAHAHAHAHA... apparently they were overwhelmed by people reporting crimes they have committed.... as well as the Biden family and portions of the government....AKA the Deep State!!!

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/victor-reacts-fbi-overwhelmed-reports- their-own-crimes/

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Ib Joe on Thu Jul 13 17:28:52 2023
    I read an article the other day... GWP... The FBI posted on Twitter that they
    wanted the public to report crimes if they were aware of any being committed.. >HAHAHAHAHA... apparently they were overwhelmed by people reporting crimes they
    have committed.... as well as the Biden family and portions of the government....AKA the Deep State!!!
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/victor-reacts-fbi-overwhelmed-reports
    their-own-crimes/

    Wikipedia has this to say about The Gateway Pundit..

    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.

    So why do you follow and publish this kind of nonsense?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jul 14 01:20:14 2023
    Wikipedia has this to say about The Gateway Pundit..

    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The
    website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.

    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech. They changed the definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed virus was released.

    They suppress conservative ideas in favor of leftist narratives.

    All media outlets are known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories. Try to name one news outlet that hasn't been guilty of selling fake
    news.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jul 13 23:03:36 2023
    Wikipedia has this to say about The Gateway Pundit..

    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The
    website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy
    theories.

    That's just bullshit.

    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech. They changed the definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed virus was released.

    Wikipedia is neither left or right and they don't define anything.

    The Gateway Pundit's fame goes far beyond wikipedia.

    They suppress conservative ideas in favor of leftist narratives.

    How so?

    All media outlets are known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories. Try to name one news outlet that hasn't been guilty of selling fake news.

    Oh yes, the media!

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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 14 05:27:52 2023
    On 14 Jul 2023, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech. They changed the definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed virus
    was released.

    they also have all sorts of meta articles about handling your feelings when people make edits to wiki pages you don't like or don't follow the rules.

    imagine having an echo where we exchanged tips about how not to let posts in political echos hurt our feelings..

    even if some of the stuff on there can be decent there are some pretty unwell editors on there that certainly wouldn't be able to get a job doing what they do..

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jul 14 19:34:20 2023
    Hello Alan,

    I read an article the other day... GWP... The FBI posted on Twitter that
    they
    wanted the public to report crimes if they were aware of any being
    committed..
    HAHAHAHAHA... apparently they were overwhelmed by people reporting crimes
    they
    have committed.... as well as the Biden family and portions of the
    government....AKA the Deep State!!!
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/victor-reacts-fbi-overwhelmed-reports
    their-own-crimes/

    Wikipedia has this to say about The Gateway Pundit..

    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The website is
    known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.

    So why do you follow and publish this kind of nonsense?

    While I cannot speak for Joe, what he is saying appears to be very
    similar to what Aaron has recently said -

    "All media outlets are known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and
    conspiracy theories. Try to name one news outlet that hasn't been
    guilty of selling fake news." ~Aaron Thomas

    As you can tell, this is not just about The Gateway Pundit.
    It is about ALL MEDIA OUTLETS. Remember that.

    Oh.

    One more thing.

    Trump never lies.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jul 14 19:34:38 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Wikipedia has this to say about The Gateway Pundit..

    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The
    website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy
    theories.

    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech. They changed the definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed
    virus was released.

    Despite your dislike for Wikipedia, how does that change the fact
    about Alan's claim about The Gateway Pundit being "an American
    far-right fake news website that is known for pulishing falsehoods,
    hoaxes, and conspiracy theories"?

    They suppress conservative ideas in favor of leftist narratives.

    Because Aaron Thomas says so?
    Could also be Aaron Thomas is full of beans.
    And likely to fart. Big time.

    All media outlets are known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.

    Oh. So now it is not just Wikipedia, but ALL media outlets.
    Aaron Thomas must have eaten a ton of beans. Far too many than
    he should have. Very likely he could explode. At any moment.

    Try to name one news outlet that hasn't been guilty of selling fake
    news.

    Donald Trump will be in Metairie (a suburb of New Orleans)
    on June 25 for a fundraiser. He'll have plenty of fake news
    available for his MAGA nutjobs. All of them believing he is
    selling them truth news.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jul 14 16:06:54 2023
    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech. They AI> > ch
    the definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed virus was AI> > relea

    Wikipedia is neither left or right and they don't define anything.

    Anyone or anything convincing you of their not being left or right, definitely has you fooled (they may even have themselves fooled.)

    Wikipedia sets narratives just like everyone else. They are content cherry-pickers. They manually review everything people submit, and they delete anything they see as a threat to the globalist agenda.

    For example, you've probably heard about the "Joe Biden White House Cocaine Scandal," but whatever channel you watch, they called it the "Trump left some cocaine behind when he left office" story. Wikipedia throws people that same type of curveballs.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Alexander Grotewohl on Fri Jul 14 16:11:02 2023
    they also have all sorts of meta articles about handling your feelings when people make edits to wiki pages you don't like or don't follow the rules.

    It looks like a simple case of elitists who enjoy the buzz they get from controlling other people.

    imagine having an echo where we exchanged tips about how not to let
    posts in political echos hurt our feelings..

    It would be funny! I'd post in it!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Jul 14 16:19:08 2023
    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech. LL> AT> LL> AT> They
    changed the definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed virus was released.

    Despite your dislike for Wikipedia, how does that change the fact
    about Alan's claim about The Gateway Pundit being "an American
    far-right fake news website that is known for pulishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories"?

    I've never even heard of The Gateway Pundit. Only leftist lunatics know about it, because it (probably) propagates the idea that "conservatives
    dumb, and they believe stupid things."

    But you and I both know that all media outlets are full of it. You were just agreeing with me on that 2 quarts ago.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Jul 14 15:08:00 2023
    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech. They changed e definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed virus was released.

    They also had to lock down the definition of "recession" because people
    kept changing to to make sure that the state of affairs at that time (2022) didn't fit the definition.

    I know for fact that, although Al used Wikipedia as his source here, if you
    use it to prove Al is wrong he won't buy what is said there, either.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Fri Jul 14 15:07:00 2023
    Wikipedia has this to say about The Gateway Pundit..

    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The
    website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy
    theories.

    That's just bullshit.

    Language.

    Then again, I have to give you points for honestly... after all, that is
    your own quote that you called BS.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alexander Grotewohl on Fri Jul 14 17:55:06 2023
    On 14 Jul 2023, Alexander Grotewohl said the following...

    imagine having an echo where we exchanged tips about how not to let
    posts in political echos hurt our feelings..

    I am Conservative, so my feelings are never hurt, but it does get old to see the left-wing deniers, that say everything that we as Conservatives say or have to offer is conspiracy, or they they have some bone-head analogy as they try to defend their positions.

    Should of been here back in 2016 before the election, when there was a whole lot of Donald Trump will never be President, that was fun.

    What is even more comical now is when they TRY to defend Joe Biden.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jul 14 17:16:58 2023
    On 13 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Wikipedia has this to say about The Gateway Pundit..

    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The
    website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.

    So why do you follow and publish this kind of nonsense?


    Well, I don't put much credence to Wikipedia much... and the GWP happens to be ranked #1 in online news source... I go to other places as well...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Mike Powell on Fri Jul 14 20:50:44 2023
    I know for fact that, although Al used Wikipedia as his source here, if you use it to prove Al is wrong he won't buy what is said there, either.

    It's all hearsay, until Olivia Rodrigo says otherwise.

    Right Al? Or is it Bon Jovi that we're trying to appeal to? lol <jk>

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Fri Jul 14 18:32:26 2023
    The Gateway Pundit is an American far-righ fake news website. The
    website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy
    theories.

    So why do you follow and publish this kind of nonsense?

    Well, I don't put much credence to Wikipedia much... and the GWP happens to be ranked #1 in online news source... I go to other places as well...

    "and the GWP happens to be ranked #1 in online news source..."

    Where did you see that?

    The gateway pundit is just another disinformation machine.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 15 06:44:32 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Wikipedia is a far-left, liberal website, with ties to big tech.
    They
    changed the definition of "vaccine" after the Democrat-developed
    virus was released.

    Despite your dislike for Wikipedia, how does that change the fact
    about Alan's claim about The Gateway Pundit being "an American
    far-right fake news website that is known for pulishing falsehoods,
    hoaxes, and conspiracy theories"?

    I've never even heard of The Gateway Pundit.

    After Alan mentioned The Gateway Pundit, you responded with -

    "All media outlets are known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and
    conspiracy theories. Try to name one news outlet that hasn't been
    guilty of selling fake news."

    Only leftist lunatics know about it,

    You said "all media outlets" - barring none. I reckon that
    includes Fox Propaganda channel? My, my ...

    because it (probably) propagates the idea that "conservatives
    dumb, and they believe stupid things."

    Except for Tucker Carlson, who is in a world of his own?

    But you and I both know that all media outlets are full of it.
    You were just agreeing with me on that 2 quarts ago.

    Cajuns can never get enough of it. Crawfish, that is.
    Pinch da tails, suck da heads.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 15 07:25:42 2023
    Only leftist lunatics know about it,

    You said "all media outlets" - barring none. I reckon that
    includes Fox Propaganda channel? My, my ...

    Fox News is near the top of the list of fake news. They're propagandists. Currently, they want everyone to be scared of AI so that the Democrats can pass a bill relating to it. Pure propaganda. Fox News also clearly wants Ron DeSantis (or Biden) for president, which is not ideal for conservatives/warmbloods.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jul 15 08:31:32 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    Fox News is near the top of the list of fake news. They're
    propagandists.

    When they got rid of Tucker, that was the final proof for me.

    When companies do things that go counter to their best financial interests then politics are involved.

    Currently, they want everyone to be scared of AI so that
    the Democrats can pass a bill relating to it.

    Which would be the standard play.
    1. Demonize something.
    2. Wait for their minions to yell that the gov't needs to "do something".
    3. Pass yet another unconstitutional law that gives them more power.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 15 10:55:26 2023
    On 15 Jul 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    Should of been here back in 2016 before the election, when there was a wh

    of Donald Trump will never be President, that was fun.

    And then, when he was elected, most of them switched to "he isn't my President."
    I heard about the crying rooms at liberal universities w/ coloring books and hot chocolate as well to help them cope w/ reality that Trump was the President.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 15 10:20:34 2023
    On 14 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    "and the GWP happens to be ranked #1 in online news source..."

    Where did you see that?

    The gateway pundit is just another disinformation machine.


    I think Wikipedia... I did NOT ask you top read their opinion... I said watch the video at the end where you can see a man talking and answering with his own words expressing his own opinion ... You didn't have to take GWP opinion on the man speaking... look at the video and form your own.

    I don't reject out of had an article that comes from left leaning news sources... Not so trusted anymore... The left leaning news sources that told us that Hunter's Laptop was Russian disinformation, later to tell us that it's actually Hunter's Laptop... The Same media that told us that the virus never came from the lab, later to tell us it probably did. The same news sources that told us that the vaccines work, wear a mask and social distance... was all later recanted ...

    So I read everything skeptically... regardless of the source... and try to see if there is evidence out there to support what I just read...

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/thank-900-million-times-gateway-pundit -saw-34-traffic-increase-2021-mainstream-media-saw-36-decrease-truth-matters/

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 15 10:59:00 2023
    The gateway pundit is just another disinformation machine.

    I think Wikipedia... I did NOT ask you top read their opinion... I said watch
    the video at the end where you can see a man talking and answering with his ow >words expressing his own opinion ... You didn't have to take GWP opinion on th
    man speaking... look at the video and form your own.

    I'll take a few minutes to read/understand your views whether I agree or not but I am not a follower of TGP because it is a well known garbage dump.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sat Jul 15 15:16:34 2023
    Currently, they want everyone to be scared of AI so that
    the Democrats can pass a bill relating to it.

    Which would be the standard play.
    1. Demonize something.
    2. Wait for their minions to yell that the gov't needs to "do something". 3. Pass yet another unconstitutional law that gives them more power.

    Biden might get re-elected for saving America from the "dangers of AI" just like how he "saved us all from the dangers of white supremacists."

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jul 15 15:13:44 2023
    On 15 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    I'll take a few minutes to read/understand your views whether I agree or not but I am not a follower of TGP because it is a well known garbage dump.


    It's not well known for that.. Anyway, baby steps....

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Jul 15 20:21:26 2023
    I'll take a few minutes to read/understand your views whether I agree or
    not but I am not a follower of TGP because it is a well known garbage
    dump.

    It's not well known for that..

    That's exactly what it is.

    Anyway, baby steps....

    I won't be stepping toward TGP at all. I suppose TGP might have some entertainment value if you are looking for conspiracies or straight up lies but there is no factual information there.

    It is part of the right wing disinformation machine.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 16 08:45:38 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Biden might get re-elected for saving America from the "dangers of AI" just like how he "saved us all from the dangers of white supremacists."

    I doubt that he would get re-elected for that.

    But I can see the gov't requiring their approval for putting some sort of AI in your product.

    Remember: The goal here is control. The Elitists get to decide the winners and losers. And you can bet that a plebe won't be a winner.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Sun Jul 16 08:47:00 2023
    And then, when he was elected, most of them switched to "he isn't my President."
    I heard about the crying rooms at liberal universities w/ coloring books and
    o
    chocolate as well to help them cope w/ reality that Trump was the President.

    I think those safe spaces exist for other reasons, too, but yeah I heard
    some stories about such things. Never saw any legit news stories about it, just people saying things like "at my college..."

    Remembering some of the things that happened when I was in/working at a
    college (1988-1993), I have little doubt such things happened.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jul 16 13:25:22 2023
    On 15 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    It is part of the right wing disinformation machine.


    And you're too busy with the left wing disinformation machines to need any competition....

    I understand

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sun Jul 16 16:27:46 2023
    It is part of the right wing disinformation machine.

    And you're too busy with the left wing disinformation machines to need any competition....

    What disinformation is that? Talk of whistleblowers?

    I understand

    Good to hear.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 16 22:15:50 2023
    But I can see the gov't requiring their approval for putting some sort
    of AI in your product.

    Democrats/RINOs/The Uniparty <- they will have no problem signing off on it.

    Remember: The goal here is control. The Elitists get to decide the winners and losers. And you can bet that a plebe won't be a winner.

    It's just like running a business diligently; you don't let "unprofitable" stuff happen.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jul 17 11:27:24 2023
    On 16 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    And you're too busy with the left wing disinformation machines to need a competition....

    What disinformation is that? Talk of whistleblowers?


    Rachel Maddow, Joy Ried, CNN, MSNBC and the like!!! I'm glad you brought whistleblowers in.... Like the ones from the FBI, IRS and other facets of the government that are testifying against the Biden Crime family.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 17 17:20:52 2023
    What disinformation is that? Talk of whistleblowers?

    Rachel Maddow, Joy Ried, CNN, MSNBC and the like!!! I'm glad you brought whistleblowers in.... Like the ones from the FBI, IRS and other facets of the government that are testifying against the Biden Crime family.

    Rachel Maddow and Joy Ried are not whistleblowers.

    Gal Luft is not a whistleblower either.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jul 18 11:04:10 2023
    On 17 Jul 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Rachel Maddow and Joy Ried are not whistleblowers.


    Conspiracy Theorists

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Jul 18 15:45:14 2023
    Rachel Maddow and Joy Ried are not whistleblowers.

    Conspiracy Theorists

    That's the usual MAGA spin.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jul 19 07:21:14 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Rachel Maddow and Joy Ried are not whistleblowers.

    Conspiracy Theorists

    No. Propagandists.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Jul 19 08:13:48 2023
    On 19 Jul 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Rachel Maddow and Joy Ried are not whistleblowers.

    Conspiracy Theorists

    No. Propagandists.

    You got that right mate!!!

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