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    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Sun Jan 3 09:19:00 2021
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Sunday 03.01.21 - 11:16, Martin Foster wrote to Oli:

    I still don't understand what the REPLYTO kludge is good for
    in this case.

    It's used for netmail replies to echomail messages
    originating on the Telegram side of the gateway.

    Perhaps we can reserve the term gateway to systems that are truly
    insecure like usenet. The Telegram solution that Stas has built
    is limited to itself; the general public cannot access those
    messages unless specifically participating as "known" users.
    Unlike usenet, it is not possible to be a lurker as you can be in
    fidonet or usenet.

    Carol's analogy of the Telegram "system" as an OLR solution is
    better. No one thinks of OLR's as gateways. ;)




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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 5 11:18:00 2021
    Hello August!

    *** Sunday 03.01.21 at 09:19, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    I still don't understand what the REPLYTO kludge is good for
    in this case.

    It's used for netmail replies to echomail messages
    originating on the Telegram side of the gateway.

    Perhaps we can reserve the term gateway to systems that are truly
    insecure like usenet. The Telegram solution that Stas has built
    is limited to itself; the general public cannot access those
    messages unless specifically participating as "known" users.
    Unlike usenet, it is not possible to be a lurker as you can be in
    fidonet or usenet.

    Carol's analogy of the Telegram "system" as an OLR solution is
    better. No one thinks of OLR's as gateways. ;)

    OK, perhaps it would have been better and more accurate if I'd said "originating on Telegram Messenger" instead of saying "originating on the Telegram side of the gateway".

    Regards,
    Martin

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    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 08:20:00 2021
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Tuesday 05.01.21 - 11:18, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

    Carol's analogy of the Telegram "system" as an OLR solution is
    better. No one thinks of OLR's as gateways. ;)

    OK, perhaps it would have been better and more accurate if I'd said "originating on Telegram Messenger" instead of saying "originating on the Telegram side of the gateway".

    Perhaps. ;) I think "posted from tg BBS" would be better,
    because Stas' tosser converts Telegram's format to something FTN
    can understand. Technically, the messages dead-end at Stas' BBS
    system. He merely uses the Telegram resources like a VPS, and all
    we have to do is use the Telegram app to read the material.


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