Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send a netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore. I like the software very much!


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pasquale monti

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Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send a
netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore. I like the software
very much!

It is a nice point software. I doesn't look like there will be be more updates to it unfortunately but it works well for the most part.

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Hello pasquale,

On 29.09.19, you wrote to All:

Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send a netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore. I like the software very much!

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Winpoint is quite nice as it integrates well with a Windows environment. I also tried to contact the author (I found a trail that led me to an address at a Univerisity in Germany, @hshl.de) Is that the same destination you found?


../|ug

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//Hallo August, //

am *29.09.19* um *16:55:31* schriebst Du in der Area *POINTS*
an *pasquale monti* eine Mail zum
Thema *"winpoint"*.

Hello pasquale,

On 29.09.19, you wrote to All:

Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send a
netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore. I like the
software very much!

-+- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)

Winpoint is quite nice as it integrates well with a Windows environment.
I also tried to contact the author (I found a trail that led me to an address at a Univerisity in Germany, @hshl.de) Is that the same destination you found?

No;I tried to send a netmail to the address indicated in the software.
Let us know if you have any news, we'll cheer for you!

../|ug

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Bis denne ...
pasquale monti

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Hello pasquale!

* 29.09.19 at 15:28, pasquale monti wrote to All:

Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send a netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore.

The author is no longer active on Fido but you should be able to
contact him at the following email address: timschat(at)gmx(dot)de

I like the software very much!

Yes, it is quite nice but it's no longer being developed by the
author.

If it's of any interest, there's a basic installation guide available
here ..... https://stargate.org.uk/winpoint/winpoint_guide.pdf

Although the document is not fully up to date, I think you may find it useful.

Regards,
Martin

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Hola pasquale!

El domingo 29 de septiembre de 2019, pasquale monti le escribi¢ a All:

Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send
a netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore. I like
the software very much!

WinPoint has some bugs, but not fixed for a long time. Software is very important for survive of fidonet points and nodes.

Sorry, my english is poor. =(

Saludos!
.:Fercho:.

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Hello Fernando!

* 08.11.19 at 09:13, Fernando Miculan wrote to pasquale monti:

Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send
a netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore. I like
the software very much!

WinPoint has some bugs, but not fixed for a long time. Software is very important for survive of fidonet points and nodes.

Unfortunately, the bugs will never be fixed as the author ceased
development of WinPoint 12 years ago :-((

Regards,
Martin

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Hi Fernando, I agree with you. Fidonet needs an easy to use software to increase its following.
Winpoint despite its problems is a good solution. pity that the developer has not gone ahead with the development. :-(
Best regards


//Hallo Fernando, //

am *08.11.19* um *9:13:19* schriebst Du in der Area *POINTS*
an *pasquale monti* eine Mail zum
Thema *"winpoint"*.

Hola pasquale!

El domingo 29 de septiembre de 2019, pasquale monti le escribi¢ a All:

Hi, no one has any news about the author of WINDPOINT? I tried to send a
netmail but his address doesn't seem to be active anymore. I like the
software very much!

WinPoint has some bugs, but not fixed for a long time. Software is very important for survive of fidonet points and nodes.

Sorry, my english is poor. =(

Saludos! .:Fercho:.

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Bis denne ...
pasquale monti

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Hello pasquale,

On 09.11.19, you wrote to Fernando Miculan:

Hi Fernando, I agree with you. Fidonet needs an easy to use software to increase its following. Winpoint despite its problems is a good solution. pity that the developer has not gone ahead with the development. :-( Best regards

Winpoint has many fine qualities. It was my first go-to point|editor program. Along the way I learned about 2 other ones that are quite worthy of regular use.

I produced a summary of PROS and CONS across 3 of the better known point programs, here:

https://kolico.ca/fidonet/echos/points/

You might find it useful in your journey.

Martin Foster produced a wonderful Quick-Start Guide for Winpoint. I know that I would have struggled a bit with configuring Winpoint had it not been for the step-by-step instructions in the guide.

Welcome to the world of fidonet|fidonet-style messaging.


../|ug

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Hola pasquale!

El s bado 09 de noviembre de 2019, pasquale monti le escribi¢ a Fernando Miculan:

Hi Fernando, I agree with you. Fidonet needs an easy to use software
to increase its following. Winpoint despite its problems is a good solution. pity that the developer has not gone ahead with the
development. :-( Best regards

A good alternative software is OpenXp, i don't know if configure this software is easy.
So, i try and comment this.

Saludos!
.:Fercho:.

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Hello Fernando!

* 10.11.19 at 23:21, Fernando Miculan wrote to pasquale monti:

Hi Fernando, I agree with you. Fidonet needs an easy to use software
to increase its following. Winpoint despite its problems is a good
solution. pity that the developer has not gone ahead with the
development. :-( Best regards

A good alternative software is OpenXp, i don't know if configure this software is easy. So, i try and comment this.

OpenXP is not easy to configure but there's a document here that you
and others may find useful: https://openxp.uk/doc/oxpguide.pdf

Regards,
Martin

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Hola Martin!

El s bado 16 de noviembre de 2019, Martin Foster le escribi¢ a Fernando Miculan:

A good alternative software is OpenXp, i don't know if configure
this software is easy. So, i try and comment this.

OpenXP is not easy to configure but there's a document here that you
and others may find useful: https://openxp.uk/doc/oxpguide.pdf

Of course, not easy to configure for beginner fidonet user. We have experience for many years, but young users not.
Thanks for document!. =)


Saludos!
.:Fercho:.

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Hello Fernando!

* 18.11.19 at 22:43, Fernando Miculan wrote to Martin Foster:

A good alternative software is OpenXp, i don't know if configure
this software is easy. So, i try and comment this.

OpenXP is not easy to configure but there's a document here that you
and others may find useful: https://openxp.uk/doc/oxpguide.pdf

Of course, not easy to configure for beginner fidonet user. We have experience for many years, but young users not. Thanks for document!. =)

You are very welcome and I hope you find the document useful :)

Regards,
Martin

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Hola Martin!

El martes 19 de noviembre de 2019, Martin Foster le escribi¢ a Fernando Miculan:

Of course, not easy to configure for beginner fidonet user. We
have experience for many years, but young users not. Thanks for
document!. =)

You are very welcome and I hope you find the document useful :)

My idea is to try to develop a script that automatically configures OpenXP, so I will read the manual and see what i can do. :)
I try for husky project, but not easy, also that is only available in linux.

Saludos!
.:Fercho:.

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Hello Fernando!

* 19.11.19 at 13:00, Fernando Miculan wrote to Martin Foster:

Of course, not easy to configure for beginner fidonet user. We
have experience for many years, but young users not. Thanks for
document!. =)

You are very welcome and I hope you find the document useful :)

My idea is to try to develop a script that automatically configures OpenXP, so I will read the manual and see what i can do. :)

Wow, that's interesting and I wish you the very best of luck. Please
keep us posted on your progress, thanks.

Regards,
Martin

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Well I got Winpoint running at least, but I installed it on my 32bit emulator, checked for 64 bit and it works but to no avail of traffic.

I guess I will have to wait for traffic.

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I can live
with some German for now.

I like how huge everything is The text is awful small though.

will look into it cheers.

Alan

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Hello Alan!

** 20.04.20 - 20:08, Alan Beck wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running at least, but I installed it on my 32bit
emulator, checked for 64 bit and it works but to no avail of traffic.

When I discovered WinPoint, I was almost convinced that I would stick with it. <g>

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I can
live with some German for now.

WinPoint is an odd mix of English/German for sure. I received a tonne of help with it in the last year or so. Maybe try to get a rescan of the
POINTS echo and look for the WinPoint threads. You can also dig up old threads at the echomail archive here:

https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/

iptia is a great resource because you can actually S)earch for messages
and follow a thread.

I like how huge everything is The text is awful small though.

The icon toolbar design is very good and quite modern. But you can adjust some font characteristics from Extras/Options/Display.



../|ug

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Hello Alan!

*** Monday 20.04.20 at 20:08, Alan Beck wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running at least, but I installed it on my 32bit emulator, checked for 64 bit and it works but to no avail of traffic.

I guess I will have to wait for traffic.

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you haven't already got a copy, you may find this useful .....

https://stargate.org.uk/winpoint/winpoint_guide.pdf

Regards,
Martin

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Thanks

https://stargate.org.uk/winpoint/winpoint_guide.pdf

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Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.



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What's wrong with Google translate?

Terry

On Apr 26, 2020 07:10am, August Abolins wrote to Alan Beck:

Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more
sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power
to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

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(2:333/808.7)

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
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Google helps

adb

Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

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Hello Terry!

Winpoint is a windows-gui program. It is not possible to copy-paste into goggle translate. The "words" are part of the button/graphic.

Eg:

[1] http://pics.rsh.ru/img/wp-1_8tf5jx5h.jpg
[2] http://pics.rsh.ru/img/wp-2_qkqa7x44.jpg
[3] http://pics.rsh.ru/img/wp-3_0jm9slva.jpg

And.. by the time I commit some of the words to memory and reach
translate, I forget the proper spelling.

Only a few places in Windows have icons with the words, so the function is easier to figure out. Eg [1] above.

But somethig like [2] and [3] is harder to work with.

If I were to use Winpoint more often, something like Abschicken is funny enough and easy enough to remember, so.. it wouldn't be that bad afterall.


../|ug



** On 26.04.20 - 17:28, Terry Roati wrote to August Abolins:

What's wrong with Google translate?

On Apr 26, 2020 07:10am, August Abolins wrote to Alan Beck:

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more
sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power
to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

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Hello Alan!

Not if I can't copy-paste it into google translate. ;)

BTW.. Top-posting is not working for me very well. Most of my replies
will be the conventional bottom method.

..A


** On 26.04.20 - 07:22, Alan Beck wrote to August Abolins:

Google helps

adb

Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more sophisticated
areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

-+- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20180707
@ ORIGINAL: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net)
@ ORIGINAL: (2:333/808.7)

-+- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
+ Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

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Re: winpoint
By: August Abolins to Alan Beck on Sun Apr 26 2020 10:20:00

BTW.. Top-posting is not working for me very well. Most of my replies will be the conventional bottom method.

frankly, top posting stinks worse than dead rotten skunk carcasses... bottom posting is ok but in-line is much preferred since it is a more conversational presentation and allows the reader to understand the flow of the conversation much much better...


)\/(ark
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Hello mark!

** On 26.04.20 - 11:07, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:

frankly, top posting stinks worse than dead rotten skunk carcasses...

I concur. I find that most top posters include the whole original post
and don't bother to remove the irrelevant (stinky) parts. But then I
guess each person has their own sense of smell. :(

bottom posting is ok but in-line is much preferred since it is a more
conversational presentation and allows the reader to understand the flow
of the conversation much much better...

By bottom-posting I meant/include in-line, that is writing *after* the relevant text.

In-line is a fine fidonet original style.

Have you ever tried to modify internet email messages to in-line? I would use a combination of indent, bullets, italic, bold. It freaks out some people that you reply to! :)

Some "devices" would be inconsistent on how they handle bullets, then it
is hard to understand who wrote what.


../|ug

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Hello August!

*** Sunday 26.04.20 at 11:52, August Abolins wrote to mark lewis:

frankly, top posting stinks worse than dead rotten skunk carcasses...

I concur.

I also concur.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.43
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Hello Alan,

On Tuesday 29.03.22, you wrote to all:

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows, to
no avail.

Win or Linux?

I want more NETS, such as SCINET and others.
Can Winpoint be used to be a point off of other Nets?

Absolutely! That's what it's designed for.

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And.. you should seriously consider getting a much later version. You will be glad you did! ;)

../|ug
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