Forum: The Computer Express

Key update

From Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464 to All on Sat Jan 4 21:30:22 2020

Hi All,

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01.
Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

Bye, Wilfred.

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From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Sun Jan 5 18:23:14 2020

On 1/4/2020 3:31 PM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : All":

Hi All,

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01. Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

Done. I wondered how the photo id part would work. What exactly are we looking at? Hiding behind a DarthVader mask? LOL

../|ug

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From Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Sun Jan 5 17:42:32 2020

Hi August,

On 2020-01-05 18:25:14, you wrote to me:

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01. Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

Done. I wondered how the photo id part would work. What exactly are we looking at? Hiding behind a DarthVader mask? LOL

;-)

But good to know it isn't obvious what it is (to non experts), that was intentional. ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

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From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Mon Jan 6 00:52:34 2020

On 1/5/2020 11:43 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins":

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01. Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

.. Hiding behind a DarthVader mask?

But good to know it isn't obvious what it is (to non
experts), that was intentional. ;)

Hi Wilfred,

Oooohhh. Suspense. Can use my "call a friend" option?

Ah, come on.. give this rooky a clue. Send the answer via encrypted
email. I promise not to tell! ;)

../|ug

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From Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Mon Jan 6 18:04:56 2020

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From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Mon Jan 6 20:48:38 2020

On 06.01.2020 19:05, Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins :

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Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

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0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

'Tommi

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From Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 6 20:50:12 2020

Hi Tommi,

On 2020-01-06 20:50:38, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

Note: The message is encrypted for the following User IDs / Keys:
0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it? Considering the error above?

Bye, Wilfred.

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From Tommi Koivula@2:221/0.1 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Mon Jan 6 22:35:32 2020

Hi Wilfred.

06 Jan 20 20:51:12, you wrote to me:

Hi Tommi,

On 2020-01-06 20:50:38, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

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0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it?

No, I did not.

'Tommi

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From Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 6 22:18:30 2020

Hi Tommi,

On 2020-01-06 22:37:32, you wrote to me:

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Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

Note: The message is encrypted for the following User IDs / Keys:
0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it?

No, I did not.

Of course not, your not August! ;) (My mistake)

Bye, Wilfred.

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From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jan 7 02:29:16 2020

On 06.01.2020 19:05, Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins :

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

Note: The message is encrypted for the following User IDs / Keys:
0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Enigmail/TB handled this very gracefully. (I wonder if this will work
in reverse from TB.)

If he had added your key, I assume you could have read it too?

Wilfred mentioned a couple of other things in his reply, but I promised
not to tell! LOL

../|ug

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From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Tue Jan 7 02:39:22 2020

On 1/6/2020 4:19 PM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : Tommi Koivula":

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it?

No, I did not.

Of course not, your not August! ;) (My mistake)

Hello Wilfred,

The message decoded quite smoothly for me.

BTW, Thanks for the clue inside. <g>

../|ug

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From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Tue Jan 7 02:58:52 2020

On 1/6/2020 12:05 PM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins":

Hi Wilfred,

I am "replying" to the specific encrypted message (to keep the thread
link) ..but TB does not permit encrypted replies. :(

../|ug

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
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From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Mon Jan 6 20:28:00 2020

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../|ug

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From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jan 7 03:33:20 2020

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From Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 7 10:35:12 2020

Hi August,

On 2020-01-07 03:35:20, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

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hQEMA1g7Ka1p0JmfAQf/WKNyjK7oLEQeHXmSFYsP0m9yqc4TymV6EGE3fopMx/dO

You encrypted this only for your own key. So you are the only one who can decode it! ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Tue Jan 7 16:06:52 2020

On 1/7/2020 4:36 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins":

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hQEMA1g7Ka1p0JmfAQf/WKNyjK7oLEQeHXmSFYsP0m9yqc4TymV6EGE3fopMx/dO

You encrypted this only for your own key. So you are the only one who
can decode it! ;)

Hmmm.. Interesting. I had a feeling I forgot something. By default, TB
does not support creating an encrypted message in a newsgroup. I used
the ascii armoured copy that was in Drafts and plopped that one in.
Obviously that one is not "signed".

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
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From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to All on Wed Dec 28 13:23:26 2022

Hi All,

Updated the expiration date:

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-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

Bye, Wilfred.

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From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Dec 28 09:20:00 2022

Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

** On Wednesday 28.12.22 - 13:23, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to All:

Updated the expiration date:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mQINBFnwjvgBEAC+8AKn/9nO+Vcw5aS1z2UPqKTR+jT4uT4jJgu/hmbyOwdLZIRO fZXtp28DRp0l0aDmFijdq756xk3MylTtT5FjaKSssa8wYziBkIHdG1COG2Tb14MN lONc6jEf0DQlDPjwHvoTWcNmSnbKDL8rdNX24GxVYFEhzx/dOyUdhOLQEW2mgLY9

Seemed to go well,

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>" 3 new signa
tures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 3 signed: 2 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 3u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 2 signed: 0 trust: 2-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2024-12-31

--
../|ug

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From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Wed Dec 28 15:44:08 2022

Hi August,

On 2022-12-28 09:20:00, you wrote to me:

Updated the expiration date:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mQINBFnwjvgBEAC+8AKn/9nO+Vcw5aS1z2UPqKTR+jT4uT4jJgu/hmbyOwdLZIRO
fZXtp28DRp0l0aDmFijdq756xk3MylTtT5FjaKSssa8wYziBkIHdG1COG2Tb14MN
lONc6jEf0DQlDPjwHvoTWcNmSnbKDL8rdNX24GxVYFEhzx/dOyUdhOLQEW2mgLY9

Seemed to go well,

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <w*******@gmail.com>"
3 new signatures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 3 signed: 2 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 3u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 2 signed: 0 trust: 2-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u

Are you going to sign my key? ;-)

Btw:

pub 2048R/0A245A40 2020-01-04 [expired: 2021-01-03]
uid [ expired] August Abolins <a*****@****co.ca>

Is this one supposed to be expired?

(Your other key is ok: pub 2048R/5789589B 2020-01-02 [expires: 2024-12-31])

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Wed Dec 28 16:35:58 2022

Hi August,

On 2022-12-28 10:24:00, you wrote to me:

Are you going to sign my key? ;-)

How can I be sure that I'm conversing with the real WvV?

;-)

I can send you a signed message through different channels. And you could send me an encrypted message for my key...

Btw:

pub 2048R/0A245A40 2020-01-04 [expired: 2021-01-03]
uid [ expired] August Abolins <a*****@****co.ca>

Is this one supposed to be expired?

Looks like it. Hmm.. I guess I need to do some housekeeping
myself. I've never played with the expiry/extension feature.
Maybe I could!

It's fairly easy

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Dec 28 23:03:00 2022

Looks like it. Hmm.. I guess I need to do some housekeeping
myself. I've never played with the expiry/extension feature.
Maybe I could!

It's fairly easy

Looks like I'm in trouble, or the gpg system is broken:

H:\gpg --edit-key E2561F8AFCCE1B68C6A94ACE499B276C0A245A4
0
gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.19; Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

key 0

pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

expire

Need the secret key to do this.

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
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From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Thu Dec 29 11:15:40 2022

Hi August,

On 2022-12-28 23:03:00, you wrote to me:

Looks like it. Hmm.. I guess I need to do some housekeeping
myself. I've never played with the expiry/extension feature.
Maybe I could!

It's fairly easy

Looks like I'm in trouble, or the gpg system is broken:

H:\gpg --edit-key E2561F8AFCCE1B68C6A94ACE499B276C0A245A4
0
gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.19; Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

key 0

pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

expire

Need the secret key to do this.

You don't have the secret key? Maybe it's on another system?

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Dec 29 08:26:00 2022

expire

Need the secret key to do this.

You don't have the secret key? Maybe it's on another system?

That is happening on the system where I first installed gpg. I
don't understand why it can't find what it needs.

The same problem is happening on another pc were have most
certainly installed my pvt/pub pairs there too.

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
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From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Dec 29 18:18:00 2022

The same problem is happening on another pc were have most
certainly installed my pvt/pub pairs there too.

Strange... Look for your secring.gpg file...

When I invoke secret keys..

gpg --list-secret-keys

C:/Documents and Settings/User/Application Data/gnupg/pubring.kbx -----------------------------------------------------------------

..why does it just produce the public "pubring" result?

So, I really don't know what to look for, except that I learned
the missing secret key was residing on another (and remote) pc.

I updated the expired key there, and will just copy it over to
my other systems. Later, I'll look to see if I can export the
pvt part of it.

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: F649 033E EEEA 3FF9 2FEE 2147 583B 29AD 69D0 999F (2:221/1.58)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Fri Dec 30 00:27:24 2022

Hi August,

On 2022-12-29 18:18:00, you wrote to me:

When I invoke secret keys..

gpg --list-secret-keys

C:/Documents and Settings/User/Application Data/gnupg/pubring.kbx -----------------------------------------------------------------

..why does it just produce the public "pubring" result?

Indeed. On my linux machine I get:

# gpg --list-secret-keys
/home/wilfred/.gnupg/secring.gpg
...

So, I really don't know what to look for, except that I learned
the missing secret key was residing on another (and remote) pc.

I updated the expired key there, and will just copy it over to
my other systems. Later, I'll look to see if I can export the
pvt part of it.

Just use:

# gpg --export-secret-keys --armor
-----BEGIN PGP PRIVATE KEY BLOCK-----
...

And import the result on your other machine(s).

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.19-B20221229
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Fri Dec 30 11:12:24 2022

Hi August,

On 2022-12-29 21:03:00, you wrote to me:

Just use:

# gpg --export-secret-keys --armor
-----BEGIN PGP PRIVATE KEY BLOCK-----
...

And import the result on your other machine(s).

Cool. Worked rather well. I remoted in to the source pc (with
the valid secret key that I need) and transferred the resultant
-o file.

Great!

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.19-B20221229
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to All on Fri Jan 12 23:19:14 2024

Hi All,

On 2022-12-28 13:23:27, I wrote to you:

Updated the expiration date:

It expired again, so here's the update:

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Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.1.0
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Jan 12 19:22:00 2024

Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

** On Friday 12.01.24 - 23:19, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to All:

Hi All,

On 2022-12-28 13:23:27, I wrote to you:

Updated the expiration date:

It expired again, so here's the update:

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[...]

Looks like something worked:

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>" 3 new signa
tures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 4 signed: 3 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 4u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 3 signed: 0 trust: 3-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2024-12-31

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --list-keys wilfred
pub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [SC] [expires: 2026-01-11]
D50ECD4F514B75DC0A064F893BB37DA84A97932B
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <wilfred@vvlzn.nl>
uid [ unknown] [jpeg image of size 5943]
sub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [E]

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.58
* Origin: F649 033E EEEA 3FF9 2FEE 2147 583B 29AD 69D0 999F (2:221/1.58)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Sat Jan 13 10:24:18 2024

Hi August,

On 2024-01-12 19:22:00, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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[...]

Looks like something worked:

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <*gmail.com>" 3
new
signa tures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 4 signed: 3 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 4u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 3 signed: 0 trust: 3-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2024-12-31

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --list-keys wilfred
pub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [SC] [expires: 2026-01-11]
D50ECD4F514B75DC0A064F893BB37DA84A97932B
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <*@gmail.com>
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <*>
uid [ unknown] [jpeg image of size 5943]
sub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [E]

Cool! Thanks for checking!

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.1.0
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to All on Mon Dec 23 15:33:02 2024

Hi All,

This one adds two subkeys (ed25519 [SA] and cv25519 [E]), in case anyone wants or needs to use those more modern keys to communicate with me. Also the expire date was updated.

Any signing of the key would be appreciated. We need to arrange a session on some secure channel if you want to verify fingerprints of the key first. Maybe Telegram or Session for instance, will do...

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Bye, Wilfred.

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From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Dec 23 17:59:00 2024

Hello Wilfred!

This one adds two subkeys (ed25519 [SA] and cv25519 [E]),
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- mQINBFnwjvgBEAC+8AKn/9nO+Vcw5aS1z2UPqKTR+jT4uT4jJgu/

gpg --import vvv.asc

gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 5 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>" 9 new signatures
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>" 2 new subkeys
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new subkeys: 2
gpg: new signatures: 9
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 4 signed: 3 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 4u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 3 signed: 0 trust: 3-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2025-12-31

What does ""next trustdb check due.." mean?

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From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Tue Dec 24 11:43:48 2024

Hi August,

On 2024-12-23 17:59:00, you wrote to me:

gpg: next trustdb check due at 2025-12-31

What does ""next trustdb check due.." mean?

I wondered about that too. I can find this about it in the manual:

--check-trustdb

Do trust database maintenance without user interaction. From time to time the trust database must be updated so that expired keys or signatures and the resulting changes in the Web of Trust can be tracked. Normally, GnuPG will calculate when this is required and do it automatically unless --no-auto-check-trustdb is set. This command can be used to force a trust database check at any time. The processing is identical to that of --update-trustdb but it skips keys with a not yet defined "ownertrust".

For use with cron jobs, this command can be used together with --batch in which case the trust database check is done only if a check is needed. To force a run even in batch mode add the option --yes.

--auto-check-trustdb
--no-auto-check-trustdb

If GnuPG feels that its information about the Web of Trust has to be updated, it automatically runs the --check-trustdb command internally. This may be a time consuming process. --no-auto-check-trustdb disables this option.

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to All on Tue Dec 24 16:15:20 2024

Hi All,

On 2024-12-23 15:33:02, I wrote to you:

This one adds two subkeys (ed25519 [SA] and cv25519 [E]), in case
anyone wants or needs to use those more modern keys to communicate
with me.

These turned out to be not very practical. If you use an older gpg (on an older machine) that doesn't understand them, and use a Thunderbird (on a newer machine), that doesn't know how to use them properly. So I have removed them from this key. If you have already imported the previous key please remove it from your keyring (otherwise the subkeys will remain, even if you import the updated one):

# gpg --delete-key 4A97932B

And import the new one below:

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-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Dec 24 17:44:00 2024

Hello Wilfred!

These turned out to be not very practical. If you use an older gpg (on
an older machine) that doesn't understand them, and use a Thunderbird
(on a newer machine), that doesn't know how to use them properly. So I have removed them from this key. If you have already imported the previous key please remove it from your keyring (otherwise the subkeys will remain, even if you import the updated one):

# gpg --delete-key 4A97932B

I did it this way..

gpg --edit-key D50ECD4F514B75DC0A064F893BB37DA84A97932B

gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.19; Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

pub rsa4096/3BB37DA84A97932B
created: 2017-10-25 expires: 2027-01-15 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: unknown
sub rsa4096/3AC0573E2D3482F3
created: 2017-10-25 expires: 2027-01-15 usage: E
sub ed25519/01F76BC6D9451BD6
created: 2024-12-17 expires: 2027-01-15 usage: SA
sub cv25519/E6A53744CDC9C79F
created: 2024-12-17 expires: 2027-01-15 usage: E
[ unknown] (1). Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>
[ unknown] (2) Wilfred van Velzen <wilfred@vvlzn.nl>
[ unknown] (3) [jpeg image of size 5943]

..then,

key 3
delkey
key 2
delkey

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.58
* Origin: 0D0EB2A295204F3167EB2503CEF0E89655789589B (2:221/1.58)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Wed Dec 25 00:59:46 2024

Hi August,

On 2024-12-24 17:44:00, you wrote to me:

# gpg --delete-key 4A97932B

I did it this way..

gpg --edit-key D50ECD4F514B75DC0A064F893BB37DA84A97932B

..then,

key 3
delkey
key 2
delkey

Yes that is also possible (and how I had to do it on my system ;-)).

Btw: Don't forget the 'save' command afterwards! ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to All on Fri Dec 27 18:23:04 2024

Hi All,

On 2024-12-24 16:15:20, I wrote to you:

Got some new signatures, so here's the updated key:

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