Hi All,

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01.
Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

Bye, Wilfred.

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On 1/4/2020 3:31 PM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : All":

Hi All,

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01. Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

Done. I wondered how the photo id part would work. What exactly are we looking at? Hiding behind a DarthVader mask? LOL

../|ug

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Hi August,

On 2020-01-05 18:25:14, you wrote to me:

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01. Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

Done. I wondered how the photo id part would work. What exactly are we looking at? Hiding behind a DarthVader mask? LOL

;-)

But good to know it isn't obvious what it is (to non experts), that was intentional. ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

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On 1/5/2020 11:43 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins":

Expire date updated to 2023-01-01. Added extra user id.
Added "photo" id.

.. Hiding behind a DarthVader mask?

But good to know it isn't obvious what it is (to non
experts), that was intentional. ;)

Hi Wilfred,

Oooohhh. Suspense. Can use my "call a friend" option?

Ah, come on.. give this rooky a clue. Send the answer via encrypted
email. I promise not to tell! ;)

../|ug

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On 06.01.2020 19:05, Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins :

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Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

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0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)


Top Secret echomail! :)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2020-01-06 20:50:38, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

Note: The message is encrypted for the following User IDs / Keys:
0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it? Considering the error above?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Wilfred.

06 Jan 20 20:51:12, you wrote to me:

Hi Tommi,

On 2020-01-06 20:50:38, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

Note: The message is encrypted for the following User IDs / Keys:
0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it?

No, I did not.

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2020-01-06 22:37:32, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

Note: The message is encrypted for the following User IDs / Keys:
0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it?

No, I did not.

Of course not, your not August! ;) (My mistake)

Bye, Wilfred.

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On 06.01.2020 19:05, Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins :

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Enigmail Security Info

Part of the message encrypted
Error - no matching secret key found to decrypt message

Note: The message is encrypted for the following User IDs / Keys:
0x583B29AD69D0999F (August Abolins <august@R_E_M_O_V_Ekolico.ca>),
0x69C68E4A43EEEB27 (Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>)

Top Secret echomail! :)

Enigmail/TB handled this very gracefully. (I wonder if this will work
in reverse from TB.)

If he had added your key, I assume you could have read it too?

Wilfred mentioned a couple of other things in his reply, but I promised
not to tell! LOL

../|ug

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
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On 1/6/2020 4:19 PM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : Tommi Koivula":

Top Secret echomail! :)

Where you able to decode it?

No, I did not.

Of course not, your not August! ;) (My mistake)

Hello Wilfred,

The message decoded quite smoothly for me.

BTW, Thanks for the clue inside. <g>

../|ug

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
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On 1/6/2020 12:05 PM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins":

Hi Wilfred,

I am "replying" to the specific encrypted message (to keep the thread
link) ..but TB does not permit encrypted replies. :(


../|ug

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../|ug

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Hi August,

On 2020-01-07 03:35:20, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

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You encrypted this only for your own key. So you are the only one who can decode it! ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

On 1/7/2020 4:36 AM, between "Wilfred van Velzen : August Abolins":

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You encrypted this only for your own key. So you are the only one who
can decode it! ;)

Hmmm.. Interesting. I had a feeling I forgot something. By default, TB
does not support creating an encrypted message in a newsgroup. I used
the ascii armoured copy that was in Drafts and plopped that one in.
Obviously that one is not "signed".

--- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
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Hi All,

Updated the expiration date:

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-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

** On Wednesday 28.12.22 - 13:23, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to All:

Updated the expiration date:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mQINBFnwjvgBEAC+8AKn/9nO+Vcw5aS1z2UPqKTR+jT4uT4jJgu/hmbyOwdLZIRO fZXtp28DRp0l0aDmFijdq756xk3MylTtT5FjaKSssa8wYziBkIHdG1COG2Tb14MN lONc6jEf0DQlDPjwHvoTWcNmSnbKDL8rdNX24GxVYFEhzx/dOyUdhOLQEW2mgLY9

Seemed to go well,

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>" 3 new signa
tures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 3 signed: 2 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 3u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 2 signed: 0 trust: 2-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2024-12-31

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../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: F649 033E EEEA 3FF9 2FEE 2147 583B 29AD 69D0 999F (2:221/1.58)

Hi August,

On 2022-12-28 09:20:00, you wrote to me:

Updated the expiration date:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mQINBFnwjvgBEAC+8AKn/9nO+Vcw5aS1z2UPqKTR+jT4uT4jJgu/hmbyOwdLZIRO
fZXtp28DRp0l0aDmFijdq756xk3MylTtT5FjaKSssa8wYziBkIHdG1COG2Tb14MN
lONc6jEf0DQlDPjwHvoTWcNmSnbKDL8rdNX24GxVYFEhzx/dOyUdhOLQEW2mgLY9

Seemed to go well,

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <w*******@gmail.com>"
3 new signatures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 3 signed: 2 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 3u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 2 signed: 0 trust: 2-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u

Are you going to sign my key? ;-)

Btw:

pub 2048R/0A245A40 2020-01-04 [expired: 2021-01-03]
uid [ expired] August Abolins <a*****@****co.ca>

Is this one supposed to be expired?

(Your other key is ok: pub 2048R/5789589B 2020-01-02 [expires: 2024-12-31])


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi August,

On 2022-12-28 10:24:00, you wrote to me:

Are you going to sign my key? ;-)

How can I be sure that I'm conversing with the real WvV?

;-)

I can send you a signed message through different channels. And you could send me an encrypted message for my key...

Btw:

pub 2048R/0A245A40 2020-01-04 [expired: 2021-01-03]
uid [ expired] August Abolins <a*****@****co.ca>

Is this one supposed to be expired?

Looks like it. Hmm.. I guess I need to do some housekeeping
myself. I've never played with the expiry/extension feature.
Maybe I could!

It's fairly easy


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Looks like it. Hmm.. I guess I need to do some housekeeping
myself. I've never played with the expiry/extension feature.
Maybe I could!

It's fairly easy

Looks like I'm in trouble, or the gpg system is broken:


H:\gpg --edit-key E2561F8AFCCE1B68C6A94ACE499B276C0A245A4
0
gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.19; Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.


pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

key 0

pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

expire

Need the secret key to do this.



--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: F649 033E EEEA 3FF9 2FEE 2147 583B 29AD 69D0 999F (2:221/1.58)

Hi August,

On 2022-12-28 23:03:00, you wrote to me:

Looks like it. Hmm.. I guess I need to do some housekeeping
myself. I've never played with the expiry/extension feature.
Maybe I could!

It's fairly easy

Looks like I'm in trouble, or the gpg system is broken:

H:\gpg --edit-key E2561F8AFCCE1B68C6A94ACE499B276C0A245A4
0
gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.19; Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

key 0

pub rsa2048/499B276C0A245A40
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: SC
trust: unknown validity: expired
sub rsa2048/429056BDC7E74799
created: 2020-01-04 expired: 2021-01-03 usage: E
[ expired] (1). August Abolins <august@kolico.ca>

expire

Need the secret key to do this.

You don't have the secret key? Maybe it's on another system?

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

expire

Need the secret key to do this.

You don't have the secret key? Maybe it's on another system?

That is happening on the system where I first installed gpg. I
don't understand why it can't find what it needs.

The same problem is happening on another pc were have most
certainly installed my pvt/pub pairs there too.



--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: F649 033E EEEA 3FF9 2FEE 2147 583B 29AD 69D0 999F (2:221/1.58)

The same problem is happening on another pc were have most
certainly installed my pvt/pub pairs there too.

Strange... Look for your secring.gpg file...

When I invoke secret keys..

gpg --list-secret-keys

C:/Documents and Settings/User/Application Data/gnupg/pubring.kbx -----------------------------------------------------------------

..why does it just produce the public "pubring" result?


So, I really don't know what to look for, except that I learned
the missing secret key was residing on another (and remote) pc.

I updated the expired key there, and will just copy it over to
my other systems. Later, I'll look to see if I can export the
pvt part of it.

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: F649 033E EEEA 3FF9 2FEE 2147 583B 29AD 69D0 999F (2:221/1.58)

Hi August,

On 2022-12-29 18:18:00, you wrote to me:

When I invoke secret keys..

gpg --list-secret-keys

C:/Documents and Settings/User/Application Data/gnupg/pubring.kbx -----------------------------------------------------------------

..why does it just produce the public "pubring" result?

Indeed. On my linux machine I get:

# gpg --list-secret-keys
/home/wilfred/.gnupg/secring.gpg
...

So, I really don't know what to look for, except that I learned
the missing secret key was residing on another (and remote) pc.

I updated the expired key there, and will just copy it over to
my other systems. Later, I'll look to see if I can export the
pvt part of it.

Just use:

# gpg --export-secret-keys --armor
-----BEGIN PGP PRIVATE KEY BLOCK-----
...

And import the result on your other machine(s).

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.19-B20221229
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi August,

On 2022-12-29 21:03:00, you wrote to me:

Just use:

# gpg --export-secret-keys --armor
-----BEGIN PGP PRIVATE KEY BLOCK-----
...

And import the result on your other machine(s).

Cool. Worked rather well. I remoted in to the source pc (with
the valid secret key that I need) and transferred the resultant
-o file.

Great!

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.19-B20221229
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi All,

On 2022-12-28 13:23:27, I wrote to you:

Updated the expiration date:

It expired again, so here's the update:

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-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.2.1.0
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Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

** On Friday 12.01.24 - 23:19, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to All:

Hi All,

On 2022-12-28 13:23:27, I wrote to you:

Updated the expiration date:

It expired again, so here's the update:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mQINBFnwjvgBEAC+8AKn/9nO+Vcw5aS1z2UPqKTR+jT4uT4jJgu/hmbyOwdLZIRO fZXtp28DRp0l0aDmFijdq756xk3MylTtT5FjaKSssa8wYziBkIHdG1COG2Tb14MN

[...]

Looks like something worked:

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>" 3 new signa
tures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 4 signed: 3 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 4u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 3 signed: 0 trust: 3-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2024-12-31

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --list-keys wilfred
pub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [SC] [expires: 2026-01-11]
D50ECD4F514B75DC0A064F893BB37DA84A97932B
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <wilfred@vvlzn.nl>
uid [ unknown] [jpeg image of size 5943]
sub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [E]

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.58
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Hi August,

On 2024-01-12 19:22:00, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mQINBFnwjvgBEAC+8AKn/9nO+Vcw5aS1z2UPqKTR+jT4uT4jJgu/hmbyOwdLZIRO
fZXtp28DRp0l0aDmFijdq756xk3MylTtT5FjaKSssa8wYziBkIHdG1COG2Tb14MN

[...]

Looks like something worked:

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --import wvv.asc
gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: 7 signatures not checked due to missing keys gpg: key 3BB37DA84A97932B: "Wilfred van Velzen <*gmail.com>" 3
new
signa tures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 3
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 4 signed: 3 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 4u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 3 signed: 0 trust: 3-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2024-12-31

H:\DOWNLOADS\OpenXP\FILES>gpg --list-keys wilfred
pub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [SC] [expires: 2026-01-11]
D50ECD4F514B75DC0A064F893BB37DA84A97932B
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <*@gmail.com>
uid [ unknown] Wilfred van Velzen <*>
uid [ unknown] [jpeg image of size 5943]
sub rsa4096 2017-10-25 [E]

Cool! Thanks for checking!

Bye, Wilfred.

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