• Ender's Game (2013)

    From Charles Pierson@1:229/426.67 to August Abolins on Fri Oct 30 09:47:40 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 10/30/20 3:21 PM you wrote:

    Started to watch the film last night. I primarily wanted to see
    Harrison Ford's acting. Ford seems like he's on vacation - not
    impressed. I got to the point where Ender is starting to play the
    last simulation. Not enough to enthrall me. I'll finish it later.
    I am pretty sure the book would play play better in my mind. I can appreciate the CGI effects though - quite beautiful and very well
    done.

    It's true the book is almost always better than a movie adaptation.

    In this instance, I can neither confirm nor deny the fact.

    However, taken for what it is, targeted more towards tweens and younger teens I believe, it is enjoyable for me. Of course, I have a passion for all things science fiction and fantasy, which this falls neatly into both categories.


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  • From Charles Pierson@1:229/426.67 to August Abolins on Fri Oct 30 15:34:30 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 10/30/20 7:39 PM you wrote:

    The film doesn't seem to capture the deeper themes of eugenics, pre-selection, and the rationale for destroying other populations
    (get rid of these aliens before they pose a threat). It's
    definitely geared to gloss over that briefly and provide the
    action that younger people would care about. The film uses the
    phrase "the enemy's gate is down", twice ..but it doesn't
    communicate the meaning of it very well. I didn't finish the book,
    but I had hopes that the film would have worked with that better.

    From what I've read in reviews comparing the two, there was s lot Toned down from the book.

    I sense that the film softens the Ender character too much from
    what I remember in the book.

    I don't know. It would make sense to me that they might have, as I understand that they softened how he was treated in his training.

    I think there is only 30 minutes left for the big reveal (the
    lie), and Ender's solution. I have to try and revisit the book and
    get the true perspective and issues that the author is trying to communicate

    I've read other books by the other, and admit the movie didn't feel a whole lot like his style. Hints of it maybe.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Fri Oct 30 15:53:10 2020
    Started to watch the film last night. I primarily wanted to see Harrison Ford'
    acting. Ford seems like he's on vacation - not impressed. I got to the point
    where Ender is starting to play the last simulation. Not enough to enthrall me
    I'll finish it later. I am pretty sure the book would play play better in my mind. I can appreciate the CGI effects though - quite beautiful and very well done.

    I tried to watch that movie soon after it was released, mostly to see Harrison Ford but I just couldn't connect with what was going on or what we wanted to go on. I'll have to spin it up again and see if I can finish it.

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Alan Ianson on Sat Oct 31 02:52:12 2020
    Started to watch the film last night. I primarily wanted to see Harrison Ford'
    acting. Ford seems like he's on vacation - not impressed. I got to the point
    where Ender is starting to play the last simulation. Not enough to enthrall me
    I'll finish it later. I am pretty sure the book would play play better in my
    mind. I can appreciate the CGI effects though - quite beautiful and very well
    done.

    I tried to watch that movie soon after it was released, mostly to see Harrison Ford but I just couldn't connect with what was going on or what we wanted to go on. I'll have to spin it up again and see if I can finish it.

    Finished it a few minutes ago. I only had 30 minutes to go from last time. Everything wraps up pretty fast: the big reveal (the lie), Ender's reaction, a bit too-long scene with one of the Formics, (the extended scenes with Shelob, the spider in Lord of the Rings was much more interesting) and then a sudden cut to the future with Ender apparently commanding his own ship with "the precious cargo" ..and no more details how he accomplished that. Now I *have* to dig through the pages of the book to get the complete picture.

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