• Work, work, work

    From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Wed Jun 15 07:02:52 2022
    CP wrote --

    If you're given 40 hours of scheduled shifts, then everything you do beyond that is OT?

    For hourly people its the law. If on salary they can work you 24/7 for
    the same amount as straight time.
    I had a salary job once, for 15 years. Many was the week I put in 50-60 hours and maybe given an extra $10 in cash at the end of the week.

    I have a copy of every schedule sent out, & every email from the company, or from me to it -- it's come in handy

    Unless I was somewhere on a regular basis I kept a record of where I was
    and the hours on a calendar. (Being old-fashioned I prefer real paper
    ones). I would write in the daily block where I was and the hours.
    Time sheets were kept on the post for about six months then discarded. (Being a rather frugal person, I sometimes took those home to use the back
    for scratch paper, etc).

    I get her attitude -- she was 1,000% loyal to the owner, & misunderstood a notation I'd made regarding lunch time away from office.

    In security we had to keep a daily activity log (DAR), we called "a
    daily".
    One was filled out each shift with start/stop time, and an hourly report
    of what was going on. Mostly its just something like:
    0800 - Arrived on post, relived so-and-so (if one to relieve), made inspection round. All appears secure. Monitoring lobby (or whatever we were there to do).
    0900- Monitoring lobby

    This went on for the entire day and at the end:
    1600 Relieved by so-and-so, off post.

    Anything out of the ordinary was recorded such as alarms and what was
    done, suspicious person/event and how handled, etc.
    Anything really important was written in red. Those were few and far between.
    Except in parking we had no designated lunch time and ate on post and not recorded since we were at our desk, podium, whatever, when we ate. So our
    time sheet there was no notation for lunch and a straight eight hour day.
    In parking we followed Marshall's rules and no one worked more than 37.5 house a week. It was rare anyone worked 40 hours a week. So on my daily
    there it was always something like "1200-1230 lunch".
    But there was nothing like "Oh, its 10 o'clock, time for break" or "It's
    time for lunch". We took our breaks and lunch whenever we wanted, just so
    the time for lunch was recorded.
    I had a supervisor who wanted to know where I was and what I was doing
    every minute, literally.
    I spent more time recording this than working.
    My daily would read something like:
    0800 Arrived on post, got radio and writer.
    0810 Got golf cart and began patrol and ticketing.
    0813 Tickets D Lot.
    0816 Ticketed B lot..

    And this went on all blessed day long.
    After about a week of this foolishness my civilian boss gave my super a piece of her mind and it was no more and back to normal.
    (My civilian boss, Carolyn, was great. She looked like Bea Arthur and
    had the same attitude. If you were right she backed you all the way, if you were wrong, look out! :) )
    And my daily was:
    0800 Arrived on post.
    0900 Patrol and ticket
    1000 Patrol and ticket

    And on though the day.
    Many were the times I would do a daily for a couple of days then bring
    them up to date at the end of week when I turned in the paperwork. :)
    If I were doing something other than patrol and ticket it was listed as traffic control, special project, etc. Special project was a wide open catch all for anything other then patrol and ticketing or traffic control.
    Those dailies were glanced over for anything unusual, then filed away
    and never looked at again.

    Raises happen regularly & without my asking

    Raises were rare and far between.
    One got a raise with a promotion, but otherwise not so much.
    This was one thing that really irked me.
    Everyone was given a raise to $10 an hour a year or so ago. But my raise went up only 50 cents to $10.50 an hour.
    I was upset since with the raise I was making only 50 cents more an hour
    than a new hire right off the street with 15 years experience and being a lieutenant. I had been making $1.50 an hour more than the others. I felt my pay should have gone up that muc
    Joe
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757 to Joe Mackey on Mon Jul 11 16:08:12 2022
    For hourly people its the law. If on salary they can work you 24/7 for
    the same amount as straight time.
    I had a salary job once, for 15 years. Many was the week I put in 50-60 hours and maybe given an extra $10 in cash at the end of the week.
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    That's downright insulting! I'd give my 14-minute notice: "You'll notice in about two weeks that I've been gone two weeks; that's your two weeks notice."

    and the hours on a calendar. (Being old-fashioned I prefer real paper

    Same; except now I make a notepad file for each day, that I use for notes during my shift, & I save it with the number of hours I did & how many are full-pay hours (if on-call, I get minimum wage for those hours; if the phone rings & I'm needed, I get my full, professional wage level; for those hours!

    I have final determination of which hours are which, as I submit an invoice with an honest reckoning every two weeks, to our accountant.

    No micromanagement was just how I liked to work; give me the overview of what's needed & how you normally do things, then set me loose on it. . .

    I provide reports of anything of note that are rightful for the owner to know, &/or could be used for training purposes. Keeping my boss updated is my role everywhere. They fdresserveto know where their money is going.

    Same as when I get an itemized statement from a hospital or doctor before I pay them.

    Have caught several people trying to scam non-covered procedures. I document all the facts & I let the insurance's doctor know, then I do as directed (that's where the money my boss pays me comes from; so yes, sir; no, sir, & my day is good. My cheques clear the bank every fortnight, so I'm a happy camper!

    In security we had to keep a daily activity log (DAR), we called "a
    daily".
    One was filled out each shift with start/stop time, and an hourly report
    of what was going on. Mostly its just something like:
    0800 - Arrived on post, relived so-and-so (if one to relieve), made inspection round. All appears secure. Monitoring lobby (or whatever we were there to do).
    0900- Monitoring lobby
    This went on for the entire day and at the end:
    1600 Relieved by so-and-so, off post.
    Anything out of the ordinary was recorded such as alarms and what was
    done, suspicious person/event and how handled, etc.

    Oy! Annoying; can you put in blocks of time, & just itemize individual events within the right one?

    Except in parking we had no designated lunch time and ate on post and not recorded since we were at our desk, podium, whatever, when we ate. So our

    The law here is we must have 30 minutes(unpaid) time in an 8-hour shift, away from our workspace & with no responsibilities (i.e. can't be on call for the time, like my job required on night shifts when it was only me. I could've demanded someone be assigned to relieve me at 02h00; I was happy to ensure my 30 minutes was paid in full, ad if I hads no lunch.

    I'm not here(life) to cause problems.

    I had a supervisor who wanted to know where I was and what I was doing
    every minute, literally.
    I spent more time recording this than working.

    Ai chihuahua -- that's annoying! But assigned bosses are still bosses, eh?

    I tend to be literal in everything with this type, so they figure out, quicker, that it's a dumb way to operate -- let me have freedom to at & I'll take care of business (twice I was in a position where the entire company was on my shoulders for 4 or more hours straight! Naturally I acquitted myself well & cemented my importance to the company. Only one other could've done it & no way she would've without a financial reward specific to the occasion (Not me -- I'm on the clock, I don't care much what I'm doing. While others are still training for one position, in 8-12 weeks, I'm prepared to be put anywhere in the company
    & do the job right, with no notice.)

    My daily would read something like:
    0800 Arrived on post, got radio and writer.
    0810 Got golf cart and began patrol and ticketing.
    0813 Tickets D Lot.
    0816 Ticketed B lot..
    And this went on all blessed day long.

    Couldn't you let your ticket book do the talking for when you write tickets?

    Did you have quota encouragements or demands?

    Here the courts have ruled that tickets given by private parking spaces are not valid. Of course, they have the right to refuse entry, but they cannot dun for payment. I always advise people to meet the manager & negotiate a compromise payment to close the file & open up their lots again to them.

    This was one thing that really irked me.
    Everyone was given a raise to $10 an hour a year or so ago. But my raise went up only 50 cents to $10.50 an hour.
    I was upset since with the raise I was making only 50 cents more an hour
    than a new hire right off the street with 15 years experience and being a lieutenant. I had been making $1.50 an hour more than the others. I felt my pay should have gone up that muc

    Yup, it belittles your experience & added value. One charity organisation I'm on the board of, had to increase our pay to those getting minimum wage (most non-managers) so we increased it for the managers as well, for the reasons you cite there -- we don't need to be belittling our people we rely on, who've been with us a long time & work well. Luckily we got our main funding source to raise their yearly grant to us to include the higher payroll costs, plus a COL indexing yearly for all paid staff.

    I enthusiastically supported this whole approach, as I'm all about fairness.

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