• Guns

    From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Mon Feb 28 05:46:04 2022
    CP wrote --

    Methods exist, such as thumnbprint control required to fire, or a locked box requiring double thumb prints to open.

    I can see it now, some bad guy is prowling around in someone's home
    intent on mischief and the owner has to go through all that to protect himself.
    Meanwhile the bad guy is locked and loaded ready to do damage without a
    second thought.
    Far more news is made by someone making a mischief than one using a gun
    for self defence.
    Its like a car, again. There's no news in thousands of drivers going
    about their business with no problem. It the one who is involved in an accident that makes the news.

    About the only ones who did were security of some sort, shore patrol, etc.

    This wasn't a round of tour you all did at least once?

    The one time I did SP was when they were short handed and volunteered.
    The only person in our group of about 20 was armed, a senior enlisted man who was regular SP.
    The other guys in SP, even regulars, were armed only with a baton and
    mine was made of balsa wood. :)
    Of no one (other than us) knew who had a effective baton or not.
    The baton was deterrence.

    Are the Seals a separate program within the USN who are separated from the main Navy & trained with a greater intensity like the Marines?

    No need for a sidearm on a ship.

    His main job was escorting supply boats across the Atlantic.

    A brother was in the Coast Guard for supply ships in the Pacific.
    His ship carried whatever was needed somewhere. One time it might be
    soap, another TP. He was killed in January 1945 when they were carrying ammo and something happened with the ship blowing up in the harbour at
    Guadalcanal, with all hands lost, save fou
    I was named after him, five years and two days later.

    I think it really sucks that both your houses are partisan. On 6-Jan, 2021 during the coup

    Getting a bit close to modern politics there.
    Joe
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757 to Joe Mackey on Fri Mar 11 10:42:00 2022
    Methods exist, such as thumnbprint control required to fire, or a locked box
    requiring double thumb prints to open.
    I can see it now, some bad guy is prowling around in someone's home
    intent on mischief and the owner has to go through all that to protect himself
    Meanwhile the bad guy is locked and loaded ready to do damage without a second thought.

    True enough. Best to train these gun owners to take care of their guns & properly lock them up when not in attendence with them.

    Far more news is made by someone making a mischief than one using a gun
    for self defence.
    Its like a car, again. There's no news in thousands of drivers going
    about their business with no problem. It the one who is involved in an accident that makes the news.

    "Dog bites man" is not new, but "Man bites dog" is, unless he's on Coney Island, maybe!

    The other guys in SP, even regulars, were armed only with a baton and
    mine was made of balsa wood. :)
    Of no one (other than us) knew who had a effective baton or not.
    The baton was deterrence.

    Not to someone hoped up on some thing, or just seriously enraged, beyond reason & awareness, then the balsa holder is in big trouble. Did you carry a proper cosh in your back pocket for such an emergency?

    I've seen the knives the army has -- one of those in your boot would seriously increase your self-confidence in any "Situation."

    My main defense, if needed, is my brain -- I'll first try to talk down the miscreant, then use what I know about self defense to maximize mty chance of survival (we had a rash of swarmings where older men were murdered by a crowd of teen thugs--my knowldeghe of this gives me a legal basis to feel my life is in danger & I can use force as warranted & necessary to defend myself--leader is going down & HARD, & he'll probably be crying & mewling after--that'll get half the rest running away.)

    Are the Seals a separate program within the USN who are separated from the
    main Navy & trained with a greater intensity like the Marines?
    No need for a sidearm on a ship.

    In wartime, I'd hope, as the enemy Seal-types could board you on the quiet sider & attenpt to take over the ship'scontrols.

    His main job was escorting supply boats across the Atlantic.
    A brother was in the Coast Guard for supply ships in the Pacific.
    His ship carried whatever was needed somewhere. One time it might be
    soap, another TP. He was killed in January 1945 when they were carrying ammo and something happened with the ship blowing up in the harbour at Guadalcanal, with all hands lost, save fou
    I was named after him, five years and two days later.

    He was the sole fatality? :(

    I think it really sucks that both your houses are partisan. On 6-Jan, 2021
    during the coup
    Getting a bit close to modern politics there.

    Fair enough; I'm sorry.

    I was going more for the philosophic view: that balance is required in all things, especially those involved with groups of people.

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