Daryl wrote --

didn't fly there instead of taking Amtrak?? I replied "I want to treat

a vacation like a Thanksgiving Day meal...savor every bite from the
dinner roll to the pumpkin pie.

Good analogy. --swipe--

I don't want to "wolf it down", like I did working

I have a very bad habit of wolfing down my food as well. At home I
think nothing of it, but when I'm with others I have to keep reminding
myself "slow down".
To me food is simply fuel for the body. The reason I'm as happy with a
bowl of corn flakes as with a big juicy steak.

DS >> of the parking lot (I think I've told that story before). :P

I don't think so.

LOL.
I really liked the line about the seeing eye dog tied to the front
bumper!

I had been severely nearsighted since elementary school...wearing
glasses since 4th grade. The teacher said that "I couldn't tell time",
and my parents said "He can tell time...he can't see the clock!!".

I had poor eye sight since a kid as well. It was some what gradual.
In grade school tests were written on the board and even in the front
row I couldn't read the board and had to walk up to it.
My father couldn't believe a child of his could be "defective" and I
was unable to see. It was all in my mind, etc. (Otherwise he was the
best father anyone could have).
I haunted junk shops trying on glasses until I found a pair I could
see out it then having to hide them at home, otherwise they would be
taken away since he said it would damage my eyes after he found me
wearing the first pair.
When I was 13 my got my first pair of real glasses and could see the
world in focus all the time.
All my life I wore coke bottle lenses and hated them. In my mid 30s
the price of contacts had come down, got them and never looked back. (I
do wear glasses once a week while my eyes are "resting" and the contacts
being cleaned.

it was determined I needed cataract surgery.

Thankfully I've never had that.

The no stitch cataract surgery was invented by Dr. Mike McFarland,

namesake of the eye center. When it came out, they thought he was
nuts...now, it's the industry standard.

Isn't it strange in medicine (and science) something new comes along
and it pooh-poohed by others then eventually becomes the norm?

My visual acuity went from 20/2000, with THICK
glasses, and severe nearsightedness...to 20/20 with a little bit of astigmatism,

Mine were never that bad but do have a bit of stigmatization in one eye.
Once in a while I need readers (esp. if small print) but generally don't.
Then there are times I do and the next time I don't. Or to put it
another way, sometimes I don't need them and sometimes I do. :)

To this day, I have people ask if I need help getting out of parking
lots, and parking decks...I'll never live it down!! <BG>

Don't ya love how some people never let you live something down? :)

But, if you can't laugh at yourself, you have a lot of problems.

Ain't it the truth!
Oh, you mentioned being lost in a parking lot. I never consider myself
lost, I'm just on an unexpected side trip. :)
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Joe,

didn't fly there instead of taking Amtrak?? I replied "I want to treat JM>a vacation like a Thanksgiving Day meal...savor every bite from the JM>dinner roll to the pumpkin pie.

Good analogy. --swipe--

I would call you a thief, but since you're the moderator, rank has its privileges. <G>

I have a very bad habit of wolfing down my food as well. At home I
think nothing of it, but when I'm with others I have to keep reminding JM>myself "slow down".

That's why the idea of those marathon hot dog eating deals turn me
off. Why gorge yourself, then barf it all back up. That's as bad as the
late Red Skelton, in a skit, saying "I had oysters on the half shell
twice in one meal. Once going down...", then he paused, grimaced, and
you could hear folks going "Ewwwww!!". :P

To me food is simply fuel for the body. The reason I'm as happy with a
bowl of corn flakes as with a big juicy steak.

I remember when my late wife woke up after a heart surgery, they had a
bowl of chicken broth in front of her. She growled "What is this
garbage?? I want a steak!!". <G>

I really liked the line about the seeing eye dog tied to the front
bumper!

When their eyes glow, as in a photo, they have their bright lights on.

When I was 13 my got my first pair of real glasses and could see the
world in focus all the time.

I had been wearing glasses since I was 9, but now just wear reading
glasses. Yet, they are so difficult to keep clean.

All my life I wore coke bottle lenses and hated them. In my mid 30s
the price of contacts had come down, got them and never looked back. (I JM>do wear glasses once a week while my eyes are "resting" and the contacts JM>being cleaned.

Reminds me of the joke where the woman gets pulled over by a
blonde female cop. She asks her where her glasses are, as her license
notes "Corrective Lenses". When the woman replied "I've got contacts",
the cop exploded "I don't care who you know!! You're supposed to be
wearing glasses!!". <G>

Thankfully I've never had that.

One woman was lamenting that the man she thought she was going to
marry dealt with Cadillacs -- when he actually said "Cataracts". :P

Isn't it strange in medicine (and science) something new comes along
and it pooh-poohed by others then eventually becomes the norm?

Yep.

Mine were never that bad but do have a bit of stigmatization in one eye.
Once in a while I need readers (esp. if small print) but generally don't.
Then there are times I do and the next time I don't. Or to put it
another way, sometimes I don't need them and sometimes I do. :)

I like what the late Red Skelton noted on reading glasses. "I don't
need these, but I've reached the age where curiosity is greater than
vanity". <G>

Don't ya love how some people never let you live something down? :)

With friends like these, you don't need any enemies.

But, if you can't laugh at yourself, you have a lot of problems.

Ain't it the truth!

But, some folks just won't admit it to such.

Oh, you mentioned being lost in a parking lot. I never consider myself
lost, I'm just on an unexpected side trip. :)

There you go. I guess next time, I'll call AAA for travel guidance.


Daryl
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Daryl wrote --

Good analogy. --swipe--

I would call you a thief, but since you're the moderator, rank has

its privileges. <G>

Well then, lets just say borrowed? :)

bowl of chicken broth in front of her. She growled "What is this
garbage?? I want a steak!!". <G>

While food is just fuel to me, I have some foods I like more than
others. While I would be happy with a bowl of cereal I might rather have
a steak. :)

I really liked the line about the seeing eye dog tied to the

front bumper!

When their eyes glow, as in a photo, they have their bright lights

on. <G>

LOL

notes "Corrective Lenses". When the woman replied "I've got contacts",
the cop exploded "I don't care who you know!! You're supposed to be
wearing glasses!!". <G>

:)
When I took an eye test for my license renewal characters were a tad
fuzzy looking in that box. I told the woman I had contacts and a bit
dirty that day. She said it made no difference she was marking down I
was to wear glasses when driving. Yeah, right, sure.

One woman was lamenting that the man she thought she was going to
marry dealt with Cadillacs -- when he actually said "Cataracts". :P

Like the Asian gentleman whose doctor said he had cataracts and he
replied, Oh no, I have Rincoln.
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Joe,

Good analogy. --swipe--

I would call you a thief, but since you're the moderator, rank has JM>its privileges. <G>

Well then, lets just say borrowed? :)

There's that graft and corruption again. <g,d,r>

When their eyes glow, as in a photo, they have their bright lights JM>on. <G>

LOL

And, it always happens with a flash photo. I remember when those first
came out, then the Polaroid Sun 600 cameras. Everything has gone digital now...yet, the blondes still wonder where you put the film. <G>

When I took an eye test for my license renewal characters were a tad
fuzzy looking in that box. I told the woman I had contacts and a bit JM>dirty that day. She said it made no difference she was marking down I JM>was to wear glasses when driving. Yeah, right, sure.

Sort of like the ham radio operator who's in for an eye exam. The
doctor asks him to read the eye chart letters...he's doing it, but he's replying in the Morse Code Equivalent for each one!! The doctor is about
to come unglued. :P

Like the Asian gentleman whose doctor said he had cataracts and he
replied, Oh no, I have Rincoln.

Or like the joke about this bank, where the upper management comes to
visit this branch, and is told this one employee can sort money faster
than the electronic money sorters. They asked for the employee to
demonstrate, and sure enough, he did!!

They asked where he learned how to do that, and he replied "Yale".
Impressed that an Ivy League School graduate was working for them, they
asked for his name.

It was "Yackson". <BG>

Daryl

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Nancy wrote --

Sounds lovely, actually.... there have been lots of places I've passed

by over the years because of the pressures of time... Dunno as I'll ever
be that way again

My thoughts exactly.
Plus there have been times in the past I wanted a vacation but either
had the time or the money but not both at the same time. Jumping at the
chance now.

Even your times for meeting up with echo friends can be flexible...

just need to be able to contact to adjust the times... ;)

I plan on contacting people en-route with an e-mail such as "Plan on
arriving your area on X (day) around x o'clock" and exchanging phone
numbers and a place to meet. Usually when about a day or two away when I
am more sure of the day and time.
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Daryl Stout on 03-29-19 06:30 <=-

I have a very bad habit of wolfing down my food as well. At home I
think nothing of it, but when I'm with others I have to keep reminding myself "slow down".

For a while, I was having to keep up with husband and son, both fast
eaters (never quite managing to)... then I was taking some elderly women
out for lunches, to encourage them to eat.... I had to slow way down so
that they'd stay comfortable and eat enough to say so... I'd just as
soon not be wolfing down my food, actually... ;) It's much pleasanter
to eat with appreciation... ;)

To me food is simply fuel for the body. The reason I'm as happy
with a bowl of corn flakes as with a big juicy steak.

One can eat a bowl of cornflakes with appreciation as much as one can a
big juicy steak... :) It may be primarily for fuel for the body, but
that doesn't mean one can't also take the time to savor it... :)

When I was 13 my got my first pair of real glasses and could see
the world in focus all the time.
All my life I wore coke bottle lenses and hated them. In my mid
30s the price of contacts had come down, got them and never looked
back. (I do wear glasses once a week while my eyes are "resting" and
the contacts being cleaned.

My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky... and discovered that those big blurs of green were actually highway road
signs with words on them.... <G>

Oh, you mentioned being lost in a parking lot. I never consider
myself lost, I'm just on an unexpected side trip. :)

I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally, sometimes less so... <G> Afterwards, I'll check it out on the map to
see what might have led me astray, and/or to solidify the better
route that I just found... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

For a while, I was having to keep up with husband and son, both fast
eaters

I'm reminded of the old joke where one guy says to another that eating
slowly one eats less. The other guy replies, Yeah, it was like that in
my family as well.

My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky

I remember wearing glasses for the first time and remembering there
were stars in the sky, and coloured blobs were signs, etc.

I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally, sometimes less so...

I recall in '84 I had visited a friend in Erie, saw the Falls and on
the way to Syracuse.
I made a wrong turn in Buffalo at the big traffic circle and was
completely lost. I don't remember how many gas stations I stopped to ask
the way back to Rt 20. Everyone, to a man said, "I don't know" or "Never
heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was in the
Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving around
aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)
Needless to say I did eventually find it.
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Nancy asked --

You do have my email...? I think I have yours in my address book...

I have the one for bluefrog, and also Jim's. (As well as Daryl and Ed).
Mine is joemackey108 at comcast.net
(Wonder if we still need to use at instead of @ to keep unwanted people
from getting it?)
Joe

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Nancy,

soon not be wolfing down my food, actually... ;) It's much pleasanter
to eat with appreciation... ;)

I went to the local Pizza Hut buffet today...3 guys at a nearby table
were seeing who could let out the raunchiest belch from their drinks. I
just kept quiet, as I used to do that myself.

One can eat a bowl of cornflakes with appreciation as much as one can a NB>big juicy steak... :) It may be primarily for fuel for the body, but NB>that doesn't mean one can't also take the time to savor it... :)

That's how I want to do a Thanksgiving Day meal...from the dinner
roll, all the way to the pumpkin pie.

My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair NB>of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky... and NB>discovered that those big blurs of green were actually highway road
signs with words on them.... <G>

One of them literally fell off of its signage perch onto Interstate
30, damaging a vehicle, and causing wrecks and a traffic jam.

I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally, NB>sometimes less so... <G> Afterwards, I'll check it out on the map to
see what might have led me astray, and/or to solidify the better
route that I just found... ;)

As long as I don't get lost heading to the kitchen, bedroom, and
especially the bathroom, I'll be OK. <G>

Daryl

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Joe,

(Wonder if we still need to use at instead of @ to keep unwanted people
from getting it?)

I have a simple HTML script I found that prevents the spider bots from getting it. Of course, I can set up filters in GMail to block unwanted messages.

No worries...you're on the ALLOWED list. <G>

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-02-19 05:07 <=-

Sounds lovely, actually.... there have been lots of places I've passed
by over the years because of the pressures of time... Dunno as I'll
ever be that way again

My thoughts exactly.
Plus there have been times in the past I wanted a vacation but
either had the time or the money but not both at the same time.
Jumping at the chance now.

I'm glad you are finally just doing it... ;) Now that you do have both
the time and the money.... :)

Even your times for meeting up with echo friends can be flexible...
just need to be able to contact to adjust the times... ;)

I plan on contacting people en-route with an e-mail such as "Plan on arriving your area on X (day) around x o'clock" and exchanging phone numbers and a place to meet. Usually when about a day or two away
when I am more sure of the day and time.

Makes sense... :) As long as you also know when the gaps in their
availability is likely to be.... :)

ttyl neb

... As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-03-19 05:16 <=-

For a while, I was having to keep up with husband and son, both fast
eaters

I'm reminded of the old joke where one guy says to another that
eating slowly one eats less. The other guy replies, Yeah, it was like that in my family as well.

I can relate to that joke... ;)

My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky

I remember wearing glasses for the first time and remembering there
were stars in the sky, and coloured blobs were signs, etc.

I know... my brother also found it a bit mind-blowing... as well as an eye-opener.... ;) "So THAT'S what you were talking about all this
time...." ;)

I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally,
sometimes less so...

I recall in '84 I had visited a friend in Erie, saw the Falls and on
the way to Syracuse.
I made a wrong turn in Buffalo at the big traffic circle and was completely lost. I don't remember how many gas stations I stopped to
ask the way back to Rt 20. Everyone, to a man said, "I don't know" or "Never heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was in
the Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving around aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)

duh-dih-duh-dah-duh-dih-duh-dah ;) Probably the locals only knew it
by the street name, not the route number....

Needless to say I did eventually find it.

Obviously, you needed to have had a good map with you.... ;) That was
probably already too late to get nice maps from gas stations....

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-03-19 13:00 <=-

I went to the local Pizza Hut buffet today...3 guys at a nearby
table were seeing who could let out the raunchiest belch from their drinks. I just kept quiet, as I used to do that myself.

In certain company, that could be considered acceptable behaviour... :)

One can eat a bowl of cornflakes with appreciation as much as one can a
big juicy steak... :) It may be primarily for fuel for the body, but
that doesn't mean one can't also take the time to savor it... :)

That's how I want to do a Thanksgiving Day meal...from the dinner
roll, all the way to the pumpkin pie.

A particularly good meal for that practice... but it holds true even
with the simpler meals... :)

My baby brother had similar issues with seeing... he got his first pair
of glasses... and could finally see the stars in the night sky... and
discovered that those big blurs of green were actually highway road
signs with words on them.... <G>

One of them literally fell off of its signage perch onto Interstate
30, damaging a vehicle, and causing wrecks and a traffic jam.

That's not supposed to happen.... Those are big signs, and supposedly
well moored and anchored.... Were there extenuating circumstances...?

I don't get lost either... I just explore.... Sometimes intentionally,
sometimes less so... <G> Afterwards, I'll check it out on the map to
see what might have led me astray, and/or to solidify the better
route that I just found... ;)

As long as I don't get lost heading to the kitchen, bedroom, and especially the bathroom, I'll be OK. <G>

I can find those rooms just fine.... it's just that sometimes I forget
why I was going there... ;0

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

"Never heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was

in the Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving around aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)

duh-dih-duh-dah-duh-dih-duh-dah ;) Probably the locals only knew it
by the street name, not the route number....

Possible.

Needless to say I did eventually find it.

Obviously, you needed to have had a good map with you.... ;) That was probably already too late to get nice maps from gas stations....

I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I
wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but none had
the information I needed.
I recall one time this out-of-towner asked me where such-and-such was.
I gave him directions and we went our separate ways. A few minutes
later I realised, to my horror, I had given him the wrong direction,
thinking the place he wanted was another one.
For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35
years later. :)
Joe

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Nancy,

In certain company, that could be considered acceptable behaviour... :)

In some cultures, if you don't belch or fart after a meal, it's
considered an INSULT to the chef!! :P

A particularly good meal for that practice... but it holds true even
with the simpler meals... :)

I'm just on a simple diet...lunch meat sandwiches. Buddig has 90
calorie packs of things like Turkey, Ham, Honey Roasted Turkey, Honey
Roasted Ham, Black Forest Ham (my favorite), and some other varieties.
The sodium count per pack is just over 500 milligrams, but the slices
are very thin. I just add mustard and some bacon bits, into the sandwich
(white bread -- the cheapest brand I could find), and it's lunchtime. Admittedly, this limited cuisine does get old, but after all the other
bills right now, I can't afford to get fancy on food.

That's not supposed to happen.... Those are big signs, and supposedly NB>well moored and anchored.... Were there extenuating circumstances...?

Not sure...but the way some folks drive around here, you have to
wonder. I've seen several instances of the flashing red lights on the
railroad crossing signals come out of their holders, and have had to
call the Union Pacific Railroad Grade Crossing Hotline to report it. All
the major railroads have such a hotline, to report problems with the
train, or with the crossing signals.

I can find those rooms just fine.... it's just that sometimes I forget NB>why I was going there... ;0

You and me both. <G>

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-09-19 06:10 <=-

"Never heard of it". After a while I was beginning to think I was
in the Twilight Zone and would spend the rest of my life driving
around aimlessly looking for that phantom highway. :)

duh-dih-duh-dah-duh-dih-duh-dah ;) Probably the locals only knew it
by the street name, not the route number....

Possible.

And often, within city/town limits, the route is on various streets as
it works through the area...

Needless to say I did eventually find it.

Obviously, you needed to have had a good map with you.... ;) That was probably already too late to get nice maps from gas stations....

I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I
wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but none
had the information I needed.

Nothing with the local detail...? Or anyone that could show you, You
Are Here, on a map....

I recall one time this out-of-towner asked me where such-and-such
was. I gave him directions and we went our separate ways. A few
minutes later I realised, to my horror, I had given him the wrong direction, thinking the place he wanted was another one.

Maybe he just lucked into the right place... or someone else was able to
set him straight... :)

For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35
years later. :)

I'm sure that by now, he would have given up on it, and be off somewhere
else by now... :)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-09-19 08:25 <=-

In certain company, that could be considered acceptable behaviour... :)

In some cultures, if you don't belch or fart after a meal, it's
considered an INSULT to the chef!! :P

Indeed. :)

A particularly good meal for that practice... but it holds true even
with the simpler meals... :)

I'm just on a simple diet...lunch meat sandwiches. Buddig has 90
calorie packs of things like Turkey, Ham, Honey Roasted Turkey, Honey Roasted Ham, Black Forest Ham (my favorite), and some other varieties.
The sodium count per pack is just over 500 milligrams, but the slices
are very thin. I just add mustard and some bacon bits, into the
sandwich (white bread -- the cheapest brand I could find), and it's lunchtime. Admittedly, this limited cuisine does get old, but after all the other bills right now, I can't afford to get fancy on food.

And you can be thankful that you have food of any sort... :)

I can find those rooms just fine.... it's just that sometimes I forget
why I was going there... ;0

You and me both. <G>

Some are more obvious than others... ;) But when I get there and don't remember why/what, I can go back where I was... usually it comes back to
me then... and I can try again... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I
wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but

none had the information I needed.

Nothing with the local detail...? Or anyone that could show you, You
Are Here, on a map....

Most of the gas jockeys I spoke to were uniformly rude and gave the impression I was interrupting something important they were doing, even
if it was just leaning against a gas pump.
I've told this story several times over the years and almost to a
person people who have traveled in NY (either city or state) tell me the
same thing, they were told "I don't know".

For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35
years later. :)

I'm sure that by now, he would have given up on it, and be off

somewhere else by now... :)

I imagine. :)
Another event in my life, which I think I've mentioned here before,
was when I was around seven or eight.
My father had gone to the court house of a neighbouring town. It was a
hot summer day and I had been given an ice cream cone.
Part way through the ice cream was melting faster than I could eat it
and just tossed it out the open window. I tossed a bit too hard since it
flew through the air landing on the drivers seat of a black '48 Ford sedan.
Suddenly I went from carefree and happy to worried the owner would
return before my father. What seemed like hours passed until my father
came back and we left before that driver.
For years when I saw a black '48 Ford sedan I was sure that was the
driver looking for me. :)
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-11-19 05:32 <=-

I had a map, but found I was just a couple of blocks from where I wanted to be. And yes there were still maps at gas stations but
none had the information I needed.

Nothing with the local detail...? Or anyone that could show you, You
Are Here, on a map....

Most of the gas jockeys I spoke to were uniformly rude and gave the impression I was interrupting something important they were doing,
even if it was just leaning against a gas pump.

That's sad...

I've told this story several times over the years and almost to a
person people who have traveled in NY (either city or state) tell me
the same thing, they were told "I don't know".

I've traveled rather extensively in NYS, and somewhat in NYC... but
perhaps I've been fortunate enough to not need to ask for directions or help.... :)

For all I know he may still be driving around trying to find it 35 years later. :)

I'm sure that by now, he would have given up on it, and be off
somewhere else by now... :)

I imagine. :)

..Instead of being like the song about Charlie and the MTA... his fate
still unknown... "he may ride forever on the streets of Boston, he's the
man who never returned"... :)

Another event in my life, which I think I've mentioned here before,
was when I was around seven or eight.
My father had gone to the court house of a neighbouring town. It
was a hot summer day and I had been given an ice cream cone.
Part way through the ice cream was melting faster than I could eat
it and just tossed it out the open window. I tossed a bit too hard
since it flew through the air landing on the drivers seat of a black
'48 Ford sedan. Suddenly I went from carefree and happy to worried
the owner would return before my father. What seemed like hours passed until my father came back and we left before that driver.
For years when I saw a black '48 Ford sedan I was sure that was the
driver looking for me. :)

I'm sure the statute of limitations has expired on that one... and
probably so has the owner of that sedan... ;) That would have been
quite the surprise for him/her, coming back to the car... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

Most of the gas jockeys I spoke to were uniformly rude and gave

the impression I was interrupting something important they were doing,
even if it was just leaning against a gas pump.

That's sad...

Yep.
Usually if I take an unexpected side trip I can use a map to find my
way back. The most common cause of these side trips is being in a busy
city and little opportunity to pull off the road. Stuck in a line of
fast moving traffic, etc.
In 1973 I was moving back to WV from CO and visiting folks along the
way. I was going from Cedar Rapids, Iowa to Farmington Hills, MI
(outside Detroit) and was in the wrong lane to make an exit near Chicago.
Pulling a small U-Haul didn't help.
I kept trying to get in the exit lane with traffic whizzing by on both
sides with horns honking, getting the you're number one wave, people
yelling.
I was eventually allowed over and glad to get off that road.

I've traveled rather extensively in NYS, and somewhat in NYC... but
perhaps I've been fortunate enough to not need to ask for directions or help.... :)

I seldom ask for directions, I just figure eventually I'll run across whatever I'm looking for. :)
The only time is if I am pressed for time. Or way far afield.

..Instead of being like the song about Charlie and the MTA... his fate
still unknown... "he may ride forever on the streets of Boston, he's

the man who never returned"... :)

When I was in NYC around 1971, I never had a problem with the subway.
Of course being in uniform (my ship made a stop on the way to RI)
people were a bit more understanding.
There were all these warnings about how dangerous NYC was. I never had
a problem. No one so much as said boo to me. I never felt unsafe.
The USO provided smallish city maps with places of interest here and
there, which subway/bus to take, etc.

For years when I saw a black '48 Ford sedan I was sure that was

the driver looking for me. :)

I'm sure the statute of limitations has expired on that one

I hope so!

... and probably so has the owner of that sedan... ;)

That too! :)
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Nancy,

... There's no substitute for incomprehensible good luck.

I could use some in the worst way. I feel like the group on "Hee Haw"...noting "if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all".

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-18-19 06:22 <=-

Usually if I take an unexpected side trip I can use a map to find my
way back.

Likewise... :)

The most common cause of these side trips is being in a busy
city and little opportunity to pull off the road. Stuck in a line
of fast moving traffic, etc.

I've not had that happen too often.... but then, I try to plan ahead to
not get caught... and most of my trips nowadays are in at least somewhat familiar territory, so I know what's coming up...

In 1973 I was moving back to WV from CO and visiting folks along the
way. I was going from Cedar Rapids, Iowa to Farmington Hills, MI
(outside Detroit) and was in the wrong lane to make an exit near
Chicago. Pulling a small U-Haul didn't help.
I kept trying to get in the exit lane with traffic whizzing by on
both sides with horns honking, getting the you're number one wave,
people yelling.
I was eventually allowed over and glad to get off that road.

I'm sure you were... those sound like particularly nasty and
inconsiderate drivers...

I've traveled rather extensively in NYS, and somewhat in NYC... but
perhaps I've been fortunate enough to not need to ask for directions or help.... :)

I seldom ask for directions, I just figure eventually I'll run
across whatever I'm looking for. :)
The only time is if I am pressed for time. Or way far afield.

Likewise, all around... ;) If I can figure out from the map where I
actually am on the way far afield, I can generally make my way back to
where I was supposed to be, though.... :)

..Instead of being like the song about Charlie and the MTA... his fate
still unknown... "he may ride forever on the streets of Boston, he's
the man who never returned"... :)

When I was in NYC around 1971, I never had a problem with the
subway. Of course being in uniform (my ship made a stop on the way to
RI) people were a bit more understanding.
There were all these warnings about how dangerous NYC was. I never
had a problem. No one so much as said boo to me. I never felt unsafe. The USO provided smallish city maps with places of interest here and there, which subway/bus to take, etc.

Between the uniform and the city maps, you probably were indeed quite
safe... :) I've never felt unsafe in NYC, either, though.... whether
driving through it, or taking the public transportation... It might make
a difference exactly which part of the city, I suppose, especially for
the subway/streets... that part of it I was only in Brooklyn and
Manhattan... Driving through, I've probably gone through dicier areas,
but those don't bother me when I'm safe in my car... ;)

For years when I saw a black '48 Ford sedan I was sure that was
the driver looking for me. :)

I'm sure the statute of limitations has expired on that one

I hope so!

... and probably so has the owner of that sedan... ;)

That too! :)

After all, you were just a kid... and you're old enough now to
retire.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-18-19 15:23 <=-

... There's no substitute for incomprehensible good luck.

I could use some in the worst way. I feel like the group on "Hee Haw"...noting "if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all".

I'd gladly send you some, had I a way to do so... ;0

þ OLX 1.53 þ Please don't startle or scare me...I tend to poop easily.

TMI!

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

I seldom ask for directions, I just figure eventually I'll run
across whatever I'm looking for. :)
The only time is if I am pressed for time. Or way far afield.

Likewise, all around... ;) If I can figure out from the map where I
actually am on the way far afield,

That's another reason I like the blue highways rather than interstates.
On an interstate and you miss your exit you may have to drive another
20 miles (in WV and some western states) before you come across another
exit, then have to double back, etc.
On the old highways there's always some place nearby to turn around and
go back.

There were all these warnings about how dangerous NYC was. I

never had a problem. No one so much as said boo to me. I never felt
unsafe.

Between the uniform and the city maps, you probably were indeed quite
safe... :) I've never felt unsafe in NYC, either

There have been times I've wound up in some dodgy areas but I just act
like I belong there and never a problem. I might get a look or something
but that's about all. And when I am out of that area I breath a deep
sigh of relief.
Its people who walk around hunched over, looking all around in a
frightened manner that attract the attention of bad guys.
Of course being 6'1" helps as well.
Joe

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Nancy,

I could use some in the worst way. I feel like the group on "Hee Haw"...noting "if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all".

I'd gladly send you some, had I a way to do so... ;0

I appreciate the thought. With this Saturday being the 12th
anniversary of Janice's death, I'm not going to be in good shape. :'(

þ OLX 1.53 þ Please don't startle or scare me...I tend to poop easily.

TMI!

Or like a church music director who got startled one time by an
elderly church member. He told her "You scared the crap out of me!!",
and she replied "You needed a good cleaning out!!" <G>.

Now, if you are on a diet of chili dogs, pinto beans, cabbage, baked
beans, and other legumes, and don't use something like Beano, you're
going to be like "shooting off a cannon volley"!! Plus, the animals do
it (especially the dogs), and they don't care!! :P

Daryl

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Nancy,

I'm sure you were... those sound like particularly nasty and NB>inconsiderate drivers...

Too many of them out there nowadays.

Likewise, all around... ;) If I can figure out from the map where I NB>actually am on the way far afield, I can generally make my way back to NB>where I was supposed to be, though.... :)

It's getting so I may need a map to find my way around the house. :P

Between the uniform and the city maps, you probably were indeed quite NB>safe... :) I've never felt unsafe in NYC, either, though.... whether NB>driving through it, or taking the public transportation... It might make NB>a difference exactly which part of the city, I suppose, especially for NB>the subway/streets... that part of it I was only in Brooklyn and NB>Manhattan... Driving through, I've probably gone through dicier areas, NB>but those don't bother me when I'm safe in my car... ;)

Glad you made it through those safely.

Daryl

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Joe,

Of course being 6'1" helps as well.

I used to be, but I'm down to 5' 8"...my late wife described herself
as "4 10, and a couple of decimal points".

But, with you being taller than me, Joe...I now have someone to look
up to. <G>

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-22-19 07:00 <=-

I seldom ask for directions, I just figure eventually I'll run
across whatever I'm looking for. :)
The only time is if I am pressed for time. Or way far afield.

Likewise, all around... ;) If I can figure out from the map where I actually am on the way far afield,

That's another reason I like the blue highways rather than
interstates. On an interstate and you miss your exit you may have to
drive another 20 miles (in WV and some western states) before you come across another exit, then have to double back, etc.

And sometimes, even more.... but at least the interstates tend to have
better signage for the exits, so it's a little easier to plan for
getting off at the right one.... Also another reason that I tend to
check out my route the night before, to "recite" the pertinent decision points... :)

On the old highways there's always some place nearby to turn around
and go back.

Generally.... :) And also much lower stress-level driving.... :)

There were all these warnings about how dangerous NYC was. I
never had a problem. No one so much as said boo to me. I never felt unsafe.

Between the uniform and the city maps, you probably were indeed quite safe... :) I've never felt unsafe in NYC, either

There have been times I've wound up in some dodgy areas but I just
act like I belong there and never a problem. I might get a look or something but that's about all. And when I am out of that area I
breath a deep sigh of relief.

I've actually lived in some dodgy areas... acting/feeling/emoting being
part of the neighborhood works just fine... never felt unsafe... :)

Its people who walk around hunched over, looking all around in a frightened manner that attract the attention of bad guys.
Of course being 6'1" helps as well.

True, and true.... <G>

ttyl neb

... The real monsters aren't hiding under your bed.

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Daryl wrote --

But, with you being taller than me, Joe...I now have someone to look
up to. <G>

Like the old joke, A barber is a man you really have to take your hat
off to.
Joe

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Nancy wrote --

drive another 20 miles (in WV and some western states) before you

come across another exit, then have to double back, etc.

And sometimes, even more.... but at least the interstates tend to have
better signage for the exits

Usually traffic is a bit slower on the older roads. Oh you have the occasional driver passing you like you're sitting still, but not as often
as on interstates.

check out my route the night before, to "recite" the pertinent decision points... :)

I will have notes such as "turn north at such-and-such place" and so
on. The map is nearby as a reference as well.
I have a large atlas for my trip but so many of the blue highways are
just wiggly lines here and there with no numbers on them.
I've always believed the shortest distance between two points is a
straight lines and will see this squiggly line is shorter in distance but
no numbers.
I am also using Google maps and Mapquest which mostly only show
interstates. But they are handy for more/detailed information for some
side trip to visit.
I recall a commercial from years ago.
A fella is using GPS and told to turn here and there and so forth which
he does. Then he's told turn right and a slight pause. He turns and
runs into the plate glass window of a restaurant with the voice saying
"In 200 yards".
I don't recall what the ad was selling though.
Joe
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04-24-19 16:58 Daryl Stout wrote to NANCY BACKUS about Re: Travel

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Nancy,

Howdy! Daryl and Nancy,

I'm sure you were... those sound like particularly nasty and
inconsiderate drivers...

Too many of them out there nowadays.

Likewise, all around... ;) If I can figure out from the map where I
actually am on the way far afield, I can generally make my way back to
where I was supposed to be, though.... :)

It's getting so I may need a map to find my way around the house. :P

I couldn't resist. What You said is now a TAGLINE, Thank You!

I'm glad Mike is My SysOp instead of You, You might had decided to Delete
BBS access to Me after seeing the Tagline I just made.

Of course, You and Mike have been friends for a long time and Mike may
Delete My access to The Capitol City BBS after seeing this message,
OR
if You sent a personal note to Him suggesting what He should do about Me.

. OLX 1.53 . A computer's attention span is limited by its power cord.

Your Tagline reminded Me of a TV Show on PBS.
The show's topic was about Computer things.

After the Credits at the end of the show You would see a Robotic Hand
reach for the A.C. Cord and pull the plug out of the socket.

I looked at the QSL Card picture You have on QRZ.
It looks like You are holding some 'Sticks' in each of Your hands.

I'm puzzled about what they could be.
You are wearing a Railroad Conductors costume in the photo.
Are the 'Sticks' something to do with Trains?

TKS es 73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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I'm glad Mike is My SysOp instead of You, You might had decided to Delete
BBS access to Me after seeing the Tagline I just made.

Of course, You and Mike have been friends for a long time and Mike may
Delete My access to The Capitol City BBS after seeing this message,
OR
if You sent a personal note to Him suggesting what He should do about Me.

Nah, you are one of my most long-time users who still "calls" and
participates in echos... it is between you and one other. :)


Mike

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Mike wrote to Ed --

Nah, you are one of my most long-time users who still "calls" and participates in echos... it is between you and one other. :)

Hmmm, wonder who that could be?
I do plan on dropping by to let you buy me a cop of coffee, since I'll
be passing through your fair city. In fact, as of now that will be my
last stop, some time in latter June.
Joe
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Joe,

Like the old joke, A barber is a man you really have to take your hat
off to.

Would love a barbershop like they had on Hee Haw years
ago...especially with the likes of Archie Campbell. His spoonerisms were
a scream -- Rindercella (who slopped her dripper), and The Pee Pittle
Ligs (where the wolf huffed and puffed, and hoed her blouse down. <BG>

Daryl

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Joe,

A fella is using GPS and told to turn here and there and so forth which
he does. Then he's told turn right and a slight pause. He turns and JM>runs into the plate glass window of a restaurant with the voice saying JM>"In 200 yards".

Worse, I've had folks drive on to railroad tracks, per GPS directions,
with a train approaching.

But, I thought GPS stood for this tagline...

Daryl

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Ed,

It's getting so I may need a map to find my way around the house. :P

I couldn't resist. What You said is now a TAGLINE, Thank You!

Tagline procurement isn't thievery. It's research, art, and science.

Of course, You and Mike have been friends for a long time and Mike may EV>Delete My access to The Capitol City BBS after seeing this message,
OR
if You sent a personal note to Him suggesting what He should do about Me.

Nah, Mike and I have known each other when we were both in the GT
Power Network. He is the last Sysop that I know of, still running GT
Power, and under OS/2.

We're also co-moderators of the FIDONet WEATHER echo (Mark Hoffman
does WX_TALK). I don't know if Mike's a meteorologist, or just a weather
geek like I am...who did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. <BG>

After the Credits at the end of the show You would see a Robotic Hand EV>reach for the A.C. Cord and pull the plug out of the socket.

There you go.

I looked at the QSL Card picture You have on QRZ.
It looks like You are holding some 'Sticks' in each of Your hands.

Actually, it's a Conductors ticket puncher in one hand, and a special
made ticket in the other. The special ticket is on the commemorative certificate one gets for checking into the D-Star Trains and Railroads
Net. Unlike other nets, where you have to check in X number of times,
you're eligible for it after the first checkin, and via an email
request.

It, like 2 other D-Star Nets that I currently run on Reflector 26A,
from the British Columbia (Vancouver, Canada) Frequency Modulation Communications Association (BCFMCA) on the US Trust Servers, will be
MOVING to the QuadNet Array (www.openquad.net) in May, 2019, as follows
(I will be on X-Reflector 757A (XRF 757A) for all of them:

1) QCWA D-Star Net. Currently at 5pm Eastern Time Sunday. It will MOVE
on Sunday, May 5, 2019. It will remain at the same day and time, but we
have to be done by 6:30pm Eastern Time, to make way for the Young
Operators Digital Voice Net, hosted by 10 year old Danielle, KE8JNU. She
got her Technician license in late April, 2018...and upgraded to General
in June, and to Amateur Extra in July...she was only 9 at the time.

One does not have to be a member of the Quarter Century Wireless
Association to check into the net. I also do their CQ100 Net on Friday mornings.

2) D-Star Trains Net. Currently at 8pm Eastern Time on Friday. It will
remain on the same day and time, but MOVE effective Friday, May 17.

The net discusses anything and everything about trains and railroading,
has a railroad trivia question, and offers a commemorative certificate
in PDF format via email request, after the first checkin.

3) D-Star Food Net. Currently at 8:30pm Eastern Time Monday. It will
move to 8pm Eastern Time on Saturday, effective May 18. The net the
previous Monday, May 13, will be CANCELLED.

H.A.M. stands for "Have Another Meal", and you don't call us "Late For
Dinner" (or I guess you have to wash all the dirty dishes (hi hi)). With hamfests, Field Day, etc. you MUST keep the operators, vendors, and
visitors well fed.

With the QuadNet Array, users of DMR, D-Star, WIRES, and System
Fusion, can access the nets. I'll also have checkins available, starting
on the "moving days" in the nets Facebook Group, and via email. If one
has a hotspot, all they have to do it set it to X-Reflector 757A, and
they are good to go. I have created a PDF file, "Connecting To The
QuadNet Array.PDF" in my D-Rats shared folder, for folks to download,
with more information...or they can send email to wx4qz at arrl dot net
for the file.

You are wearing a Railroad Conductors costume in the photo.
Are the 'Sticks' something to do with Trains?

See my comment above on that.

Daryl, WX4QZ (Whistled Crossings For Quiet Zones)

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04-26-19 20:20 Mike Powell wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Travel
Howdy! Mike and Daryl,

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I'm glad Mike is My SysOp instead of You, You might had decided to Delete BBS access to Me after seeing the Tagline I just made.

Of course, You and Mike have been friends for a long time and Mike may Delete My access to The Capitol City BBS after seeing this message,
OR
if You sent a personal note to Him suggesting what He should do about Me.

Nah, you are one of my most long-time users who still "calls" and participates in echos... it is between you and one other. :)

I'm thinking that You haven't remembered how many times I wrote You when
I 'thought' the BBS wasn't doing as it should (in My thoughts).

Of course, I'm helping the SysOp FINE TUNING the BBS software.

Hmmm... "it is between you and one other. :)".
That makes Me wonder which one of the two of 'us' will lose BBS access first. Me or the Other User? ... Most likely Me. You know My reputation.

Mike

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Interesting TAGLINE.

Is it something sorta like: "Think having problems murphy" or something like that?

I took a look at MM TAGLINE. file and saw one that says:

If You think You have problems MURPHY Lives With Me

OR

Did SLMR 2.1a's TAGLINE.MR file BURP and messed up that file? Hmmmm?

The Tagline below may refer to the writer of this message.

That Tagline made Me think of a sign inside Zaxby's that says something like "free idiot test. $5.00 Please" .

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-24-19 17:03 <=-

I'm sure you were... those sound like particularly nasty and
inconsiderate drivers...

Too many of them out there nowadays.

Always have been some... and now there's more drivers, period, as
well... so not surprising that more aren't very considerate...

Likewise, all around... ;) If I can figure out from the map where I
actually am on the way far afield, I can generally make my way back to
where I was supposed to be, though.... :)

It's getting so I may need a map to find my way around the house. :P

Is your mom's house THAT big, then....?!

Between the uniform and the city maps, you probably were indeed quite
safe... :) I've never felt unsafe in NYC, either, though.... whether
driving through it, or taking the public transportation... It might make
a difference exactly which part of the city, I suppose, especially for
the subway/streets... that part of it I was only in Brooklyn and
Manhattan... Driving through, I've probably gone through dicier areas,
but those don't bother me when I'm safe in my car... ;)

Glad you made it through those safely.

I wasn't all that worried, actually... I've lived at times in some
rather dicey neighborhoods, and was just fine... I knew I was
legitimately there, it was my neighborhood, and the neighbors didn't
give me any grief... we'd exchange friendly greetings.... :)

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Is it something sorta like: "Think having problems murphy" or something like that?

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Nancy,

Always have been some... and now there's more drivers, period, as
well... so not surprising that more aren't very considerate...

It's like the story of the elderly woman calling her husband on the cellphone, telling him to be careful, because there's some crazy driver
driving the wrong way on the freeway. He replied "There's thousands of
them!!" (without realizing HE is the one driving the wrong way) <G>.

It's getting so I may need a map to find my way around the house. :P

Is your mom's house THAT big, then....?!

Bigger than my apartment, but not that big. I just felt like being
sarcastic. Of course, at my age, when I go into the bathroom, I wonder
what reason made me go in there (it could be several different ones). :P

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something.

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Ed,

That Tagline made Me think of a sign inside Zaxby's that says something like EV>"free idiot test. $5.00 Please" .

Added to the collection...thank you very much!! <BG>

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-25-19 06:31 <=-

drive another 20 miles (in WV and some western states) before you
come across another exit, then have to double back, etc.

And sometimes, even more.... but at least the interstates tend to have better signage for the exits

Usually traffic is a bit slower on the older roads. Oh you have the occasional driver passing you like you're sitting still, but not as
often as on interstates.

Which does make it more relaxing... Also, there generally are some
places where one can pass a really poky driver... or one could be lucky
enough for that one to turn off pretty soon... <G>

check out my route the night before, to "recite" the pertinent decision points... :)

I will have notes such as "turn north at such-and-such place" and so
on. The map is nearby as a reference as well.
I have a large atlas for my trip but so many of the blue highways
are just wiggly lines here and there with no numbers on them.
I've always believed the shortest distance between two points is a straight lines and will see this squiggly line is shorter in distance
but no numbers.

That's when having a more local map is useful... And where AAA can be helpful.... A state map, or better yet, a regional one, will have the
numbers (and sometimes the street names) on it for even the blue
highways.... and often have insets for cities and towns... :)

I am also using Google maps and Mapquest which mostly only show interstates. But they are handy for more/detailed information for
some side trip to visit.

If you are getting them from the computer, it can be useful to zoom them
in and get more detail before you print them out.... They still aren't
as accurate as the printed maps, though, I've found....

I recall a commercial from years ago.
A fella is using GPS and told to turn here and there and so forth
which he does. Then he's told turn right and a slight pause. He turns and runs into the plate glass window of a restaurant with the voice
saying "In 200 yards".
I don't recall what the ad was selling though.

That sounds like some of the Geico ads.... I've heard some real life
horror tales about GPS misleadings...

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

If you are getting them from the computer, it can be useful to zoom

them in and get more detail before you print them out.... They still
aren't as accurate as the printed maps, though, I've found....

I'm not printing Google and Mapquest maps. Too much paperwork flying
around in the car, out the window, etc. :)
One thing I do is have a separate sheet of paper with something like
"Rt X to Y, then whichever direction to Z" etc.
I will also back track a route from one town to another if that route disappears on the printed map. I also will think "Well, it has to be
there somewhere" since the interstates will usually parallel the old road
for the most part.
I had to work (uh, warm a chair) Monday and Tuesday and used my tablet
to zoom in for points of interest and checking their websites. Sheesh,
every place wants money to get in. Its $20 here, $40 there... I may
just drive by those places and look in passing. :)
Joe
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On 2019 May 01 07:08:28, you wrote to NANCY BACKUS:

I'm not printing Google and Mapquest maps. Too much paperwork flying around in the car, out the window, etc. :)

you can print only the directions if you like...

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04-30-19 15:29 NANCY BACKUS wrote to JOE MACKEY about Re: Travel
Howdy! Nancy and Joe,
(This is mostly for Joe's information)

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-25-19 06:31 <=-

drive another 20 miles (in WV and some western states) before you
come across another exit, then have to double back, etc.

And sometimes, even more.... but at least the interstates tend to have better signage for the exits

Usually traffic is a bit slower on the older roads. Oh you have the occasional driver passing you like you're sitting still, but not as
often as on interstates.

Which does make it more relaxing... Also, there generally are some
places where one can pass a really poky driver... or one could be lucky enough for that one to turn off pretty soon... <G>

check out my route the night before, to "recite" the pertinent decision points... :)

I will have notes such as "turn north at such-and-such place" and so
on. The map is nearby as a reference as well.
I have a large atlas for my trip but so many of the blue highways
are just wiggly lines here and there with no numbers on them.
I've always believed the shortest distance between two points is a straight lines and will see this squiggly line is shorter in distance
but no numbers.

I can't remember the name of the small town I was driving to, South
Bound on US 31W, between Louisville, KY and Bowling Green, KY ,
I 'think' South of Elizabethtown, KY ?? ,
but I had a BIG SURPRIZE at one spot where the 2 Lane Road did a quick
Zig-Zag.

So be VERY Careful Joe on those unfamiliar Highways.

Nancy, I'm sure Joe will stop at the first REST STOP after driving across
a State Line and get a up-to-date Map and get answers to questions about traveling through the State.

... As of next week, passwords will be entered in Morse code.

DIT DAAAAH DIT ( .-. = R which means "ROGER!" or "AFFIRMATIVE!") .

You can tell I held the Key down on the Dash portion of the character R
to show I am V E R Y excited to be able to do that at Sign On.

I was 16 when the F.C.C. licensed Me as KN4ZIQ.
The ZIQ part means - Zero Intelligence Quotient ( 0.0 I.Q. ) .

Joe, have You sent any Email to Me?

I haven't looked in the Spam Box on the webmail page to see if there may
be a message from You.
But I will do that when I find that elusive ROUNDTUIT of mine.

Stay Tuned, Same Time, Same Frequency.

(I remember the old phrase was Same Time, Same Channel - but I never had a Citizens Band Radio License, so I use the word Frequency instead of Channel.)

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Nancy,

That sounds like some of the Geico ads.... I've heard some real life NB>horror tales about GPS misleadings...

I know of 2:

1) The GPS said "turn left here", and you go right off the mountain
road.

2) The GPS said "turn right here", and you turn on to the railroad
tracks, then discover there's a train coming.

When a fellow ham radio operator I were coming back from a special
event station aboard the Arkansas And Missouri Railroad Memorial Day
Troop Train back in 2011, we decided to stop off in Conway, about 30
miles northwest of Little Rock. The female GPS voice went
ballistic..."ERROR!! RECALCULATING!!"...to which I said "Now, you've
made her mad!! :P

The video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aEtSbHX7pw -- working
20 meters HF from the Conductors Cabin aboard a restored 1927 Harlan and Hollingsworth Passenger Car. At the time, my ham radio callsign was
AE5WX.

Daryl, WX4QZ

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Joe,

I had to work (uh, warm a chair) Monday and Tuesday and used my tablet
to zoom in for points of interest and checking their websites. Sheesh, JM>every place wants money to get in. Its $20 here, $40 there... I may JM>just drive by those places and look in passing. :)

Nothing wrong with being a frugal cheapskate. <G>

Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-28-19 09:48 <=-

Always have been some... and now there's more drivers, period, as
well... so not surprising that more aren't very considerate...

It's like the story of the elderly woman calling her husband on the cellphone, telling him to be careful, because there's some crazy
driver driving the wrong way on the freeway. He replied "There's
thousands of them!!" (without realizing HE is the one driving the wrong way) <G>.

Hmmm... wonder if SHE figured it out....? ;0

It's getting so I may need a map to find my way around the house. :P

Is your mom's house THAT big, then....?!

Bigger than my apartment, but not that big. I just felt like being sarcastic.

Actually, figured as much... ;)

Of course, at my age, when I go into the bathroom, I wonder what
reason made me go in there (it could be several different ones). :P

So sit down in the proper position while you figure it out... safest
that way... <G>

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something.

I never win anything either.... but then, I also don't enter anything, either.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Mark wrote --

I'm not printing Google and Mapquest maps. Too much paperwork

flying around in the car, out the window, etc. :)

you can print only the directions if you like...

Most all highways have signs reading something like "this road to X in
so many miles". :)
I'll write out more detailed directions on paper, such as when I'm
visiting someone along the way "Take Rt X to such-and-such street, turn L
or R at this or that landmark, go x miles to this place where we will
meet". Things like that.
Whenever I give someone directions its along the lines of to stay in
one lane or the other, this of that landmark, go so much farther to this
other one, etc. (These are well marked or highly visible businesses, etc
along the way). Then when you pass this one place turn x number of
blocks here and there, etc.
What I'll do is call whomever when I get near to their town for the
more detailed information.
Joe

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Daryl wrote --

every place wants money to get in. Its $20 here, $40 there... I may JM>just drive by those places and look in passing. :)

Nothing wrong with being a frugal cheapskate. <G>

I keep changing my route dropping one place, adding another.
I was thinking of bypassing Chicago as far south as I could. Then
realised I could go a few extra miles to make a pilgrimage to Kaukeegan,
IL and visit the home town of my money management example and hero, Jack
Benny. :)
Joe

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Ed wrote to Nancy --

Nancy, I'm sure Joe will stop at the first REST STOP after driving

across a State Line and get a up-to-date Map and get answers to questions
about traveling through the State.

I'm going up the Hudson from NYC to Syracuse for a couple of days. I
plan to write Nancy then since Rochester will be my next stop.
I plan to do the same with each stop. Like a day or two ahead.
I don't want to make definite plans and say I'll be somewhere on a
certain day since I might change my mind about travel and the times
there. This will be a nice leisurely trip, no "I gotta be there" at a
certain time. Now once I warn the the next person on the trip that will
be change. I don't want someone waiting around for me for hours while I
wander around here and there.

Joe, have You sent any Email to Me?

Not lately.
You are my next to last visit (with Mark being the last).
I plan to be in your area in late June.
From your place its a straight shot to Frankfort and then home.
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Nancy,

It's like the story of the elderly woman calling her husband on the cellphone, telling him to be careful, because there's some crazy
driver driving the wrong way on the freeway. He replied "There's thousands of them!!" (without realizing HE is the one driving the wrong way) <G>.

Hmmm... wonder if SHE figured it out....? ;0

Your guess is as good as mine. <G>

So sit down in the proper position while you figure it out... safest
that way... <G>

The busiest seat in the house. :P Janice offered to "bring the
computer, TV, and ham radio in there" as "I spent so much time in the "orifice". :P

I never win anything either.... but then, I also don't enter anything, NB>either.... ;)

I rarely do. The square dances would have a "split the pot"...where
the club got 1/3, the caller got 1/3, and the winner got 1/3. They have
some new Arkansas Lottery Scratch Off Tickets, with a limited promotion
of where you don't have to pay taxes on the winnings.

I think the most I won off of those scratch off tickets was $15.

Daryl

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Joe,

I was thinking of bypassing Chicago as far south as I could. Then
realised I could go a few extra miles to make a pilgrimage to Kaukeegan, JM>IL and visit the home town of my money management example and hero, Jack JM>Benny. :)

There was one show, where Mel Blanc (Looney Tunes) was doing an
"electronic organ". The audience was howling in laughter, and Jack's
lips were quivering, as he was trying for all he was worth to not
laugh!! It was a sight to behold!!

Speaking of travel, I've got medical procedures the afternoon of May
15, and the morning of May 17. I'm not sure when you were planning to
come through and graze (my treat, of course), but those 2 days could be
on a tight schedule for me.

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-01-19 07:08 <=-

If you are getting them from the computer, it can be useful to zoom
them in and get more detail before you print them out.... They still
aren't as accurate as the printed maps, though, I've found....

I'm not printing Google and Mapquest maps. Too much paperwork
flying around in the car, out the window, etc. :)

The old-fashioned fold-em-up paper maps don't fly around the car or out
the window... ;) And can be folded carefully to be open to the place
where your trip is happening....

One thing I do is have a separate sheet of paper with something like
"Rt X to Y, then whichever direction to Z" etc.

For specific directions at the end of a day's leg of the trip, I might
have that written out separately, especially for a new area...

I will also back track a route from one town to another if that
route disappears on the printed map. I also will think "Well, it has
to be there somewhere" since the interstates will usually parallel the
old road for the most part.

True in most cases... often criss-crossing underneath/over the
interstate.... but sometimes parts do get lost....

I had to work (uh, warm a chair) Monday and Tuesday and used my
tablet to zoom in for points of interest and checking their websites. Sheesh, every place wants money to get in. Its $20 here, $40 there...
I may just drive by those places and look in passing. :)

I guess you waited too long to check them out... prices just keep going
up.... ;) If it's something you've /really/ wanted to see, though, it
might be worth the entrance fee.... :) There might be senior citizen
discounts for some of them, too...

ttyl neb

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Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 05-01-19 09:10 <=-

I will have notes such as "turn north at such-and-such place" and so
on. The map is nearby as a reference as well.
I have a large atlas for my trip but so many of the blue highways
are just wiggly lines here and there with no numbers on them.
I've always believed the shortest distance between two points is a
straight lines and will see this squiggly line is shorter in distance
but no numbers.

I can't remember the name of the small town I was driving to, South
Bound on US 31W, between Louisville, KY and Bowling Green, KY,
I 'think' South of Elizabethtown, KY ??, but I had a BIG SURPRIZE
at one spot where the 2 Lane Road did a quick Zig-Zag.
So be VERY Careful Joe on those unfamiliar Highways.

I've had similar surprises on back roads... one does have to keep one's
wits about them... :)

Nancy, I'm sure Joe will stop at the first REST STOP after driving
across a State Line and get a up-to-date Map and get answers to
questions about traveling through the State.

I hope he does... or at least makes a stop at AAA to get maps for all
the states he is going to be traveling in... Real maps are the best
thing for traveling safely... ;)

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DIT DAAAAH DIT ( .-. = R which means "ROGER!" or "AFFIRMATIVE!") .
You can tell I held the Key down on the Dash portion of the character
R to show I am V E R Y excited to be able to do that at Sign On.

Thank you for the translation... my knowledge of Morse Code is very rudimentary, as I've never gone for a ham license... ;)

I was 16 when the F.C.C. licensed Me as KN4ZIQ.
The ZIQ part means - Zero Intelligence Quotient ( 0.0 I.Q. ) .

Was that your choice, or was the the usual assignment for novices...?

Stay Tuned, Same Time, Same Frequency.
(I remember the old phrase was Same Time, Same Channel - but I never
had a Citizens Band Radio License, so I use the word Frequency instead
of Channel.)

And bbsing isn't quite the same either, not being time-dependent for connection... ;) But it's the same echo, anyway.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-01-19 17:07 <=-

That sounds like some of the Geico ads.... I've heard some real
life horror tales about GPS misleadings...

I know of 2:
1) The GPS said "turn left here", and you go right off the mountain
road.
2) The GPS said "turn right here", and you turn on to the railroad
tracks, then discover there's a train coming.

Both of those are truly horrifying... as well as dangerous/lethal
mistakes... I heard of people ending up in fields.... and one couple
found themselves at a gated community where they weren't welcome....
Barry's been wondering about what might happen when GPSs that don't know
about that major bridge rebuild near him try to direct people onto the
old non-existant bridge... and hence right into the river....

When a fellow ham radio operator I were coming back from a special
event station aboard the Arkansas And Missouri Railroad Memorial Day
Troop Train back in 2011, we decided to stop off in Conway, about 30
miles northwest of Little Rock. The female GPS voice went ballistic..."ERROR!! RECALCULATING!!"...to which I said "Now, you've
made her mad!! :P

That wasn't what she thought you should be doing... I don't use the
things myself... nor do I intend to, ever.... :)

The video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aEtSbHX7pw --
working 20 meters HF from the Conductors Cabin aboard a restored 1927 Harlan and Hollingsworth Passenger Car. At the time, my ham radio
callsign was AE5WX.

Was the GPS for the train, then...? Or were you in a car (not a train
car) when you were using it....?

ttyl neb

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05-01-19 07:08 JOE MACKEY wrote to NANCY BACKUS about Re: Travel
Howdy! Joe,

@MSGID: <5CC9FB2C.21665.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
Nancy wrote --

If you are getting them from the computer, it can be useful to zoom

them in and get more detail before you print them out.... They still aren't as accurate as the printed maps, though, I've found....

I'm not printing Google and Mapquest maps. Too much paperwork flying around in the car, out the window, etc. :)
One thing I do is have a separate sheet of paper with something like
"Rt X to Y, then whichever direction to Z" etc.
I will also back track a route from one town to another if that route disappears on the printed map. I also will think "Well, it has to be there somewhere" since the interstates will usually parallel the old
road for the most part.
I had to work (uh, warm a chair) Monday and Tuesday and used my
tablet to zoom in for points of interest and checking their websites. Sheesh, every place wants money to get in. Its $20 here, $40 there...
I may just drive by those places and look in passing. :)

I have an idea for not printing Maps you see on the internet.

EITHER press PrintScr and Open a Image Editor like Irfanview or maybe even Microsoft's Paint program, then PASTE (CTRL-v) whats on the internet page,
and SAVE it as a .JPG file on your laptop/notebook OR on the Tablet if
there is a PrintScr key function on a Tablet(????).

OR

SAVE the internet page with DoPDF (or CutePDF) which is a Printer Driver
You can Download to the computer/tablet(?) that You take on the trip.

I like using the free version of DoPDF. www.dopdf.com

When I see something on the Monitor I want to keep in a PDF file,
I press CTRL-p and select DoPDF from the Printer Option List instead of
sending it to the Printer.

Next I Save what is on the screen to a PDF File in a Directory
(or subDirectory) that I want the File Saved in.

When I want to look at what I Saved, I Double-Click on the File Name in
Windows Explorer (NOT the Internet Esplorer program) and the PDF Reader
Program I use - called PDFXChange lets me read the file.

The Free version of PDFXChange can be downloaded at:

www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads

One nice thing about DoPDF is that it puts all of what is on a web page
into the PDF, instead of PrintScr ONLY grabbing what is visible on the
monitor screen at that instant the PrintScr Key was pressed.

Some of the pages I've Saved with DoPDF are Very Long.

What I wrote in a message to Nancy and You about the Zig-Zag on U.S. 31-W in Kentucky is South of Glendale (junction) and Upton, KY , its near Sonora, KY.

In Kentucky, U.S. 31-W is called "Dixie Highway".

A long time ago I went to the Patton Museum at Fort Knox Army Base and as
I was leaving to come home there was a LARGE sign saying:

"Ypu are now entering the Most Dangerous Highway in the U.S.A.,
DIXIE DIEWAY
Drive Carefully".

The Sign might still be there when people leave the Base.

After writing all of that about the Zig-Zag I remembered You were going
West to see Daryl after leaving My Area.

I 'think' You may want to stop at Dayton, Ohio and see the U.S. Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB as You drive towards My Area.

My Wife and I went there long ago and IIRC We were asked for a Donation
when We walked in. I REALLY ENJOYED the Air Force Museum!

I also dragged my Wife to the U.S. Navy Aviation Museum in Pensacola, Florida, and saw the USS Lexington at Panama City, Florida.
I said "saw" because a day or so ago We walked through the USS Alabama in Mobile, Alabama and neither one of us wanted to walk on another Ship that
soon.
The Lady Lex was the first of four Aircraft Carrier I was on during My
Navy Service.



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05-02-19 07:59 JOE MACKEY wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Travel
Howdy! Joe,

@MSGID: <5CCB0641.21680.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
Ed wrote to Nancy --

Nancy, I'm sure Joe will stop at the first REST STOP after driving

across a State Line and get a up-to-date Map and get answers to
questions about traveling through the State.

I'm going up the Hudson from NYC to Syracuse for a couple of days. I plan to write Nancy then since Rochester will be my next stop.
I plan to do the same with each stop. Like a day or two ahead.
I don't want to make definite plans and say I'll be somewhere on a certain day since I might change my mind about travel and the times
there. This will be a nice leisurely trip, no "I gotta be there" at a certain time. Now once I warn the the next person on the trip that
will be change. I don't want someone waiting around for me for hours while I wander around here and there.

Joe, have You sent any Email to Me?

Not lately.

I found a unanswered Email You sent to Me in February this Year.

You are my next to last visit (with Mark being the last).

Mike ???

I plan to be in your area in late June.

Thanks for the Update on Your Great Adventure to both sides of the
Mighty Mississippi River.

We all appreciate the update, and will appreciate seeing You too.

From your place its a straight shot to Frankfort and then home.

Be very careful on that trip towards Home, and all of the other Trips too!

BCNU - Amateur Radio abbreviation for "Be Seeing You".



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Daryl wrote --

There was one show, where Mel Blanc (Looney Tunes) was doing an
"electronic organ". The audience was howling in laughter, and Jack's
lips were quivering, as he was trying for all he was worth to not
laugh!! It was a sight to behold!!

I am a big Benny fan, from his radio (and early shorts) on to his last
days.
Speaking of Mel Blanc (who was associated with Jack for many years) and
the Si/Sy routine and how Mel always keeps a straight face and Jack is
trying not to breakup. Every time they do that routine its the same.
Jack was a master at the silent pause. Just stand/sit there staring at
the audience or the person he's talking with, not doing anything always
breaks people up.

Speaking of travel, I've got medical procedures the afternoon of May
15, and the morning of May 17.

The 15th I plan to be leaving DC for Gettysburg and the 17th I plan to
be in Harrisburg, PA so no where near you.
I will be in your area about mid June.
I'm not sure yet on just what day. Depends on how many places I'm told
be out of town by sunset. :)
But I will give you advance warning.
Joe
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Nancy wrote --

For specific directions at the end of a day's leg of the trip, I might
have that written out separately, especially for a new area...

I've always done that.
The night before I go over the map and get more detailed information.
And when I get to you (along with everyone else) I'll call and say I'm
on Rt X at such-and-such a place to get detailed directions to where I'm
to be. :)

True in most cases... often criss-crossing underneath/over the
interstate.... but sometimes parts do get lost....

When I lived in Colorado I 25 replaced the old north/south road and the
old road was even torn up. There might be bits and pieces of the old
road off to the side.

I guess you waited too long to check them out... prices just keep going up.... ;)

They are the highest in price they have ever been, but cheaper than
they will ever be again. :)
Sometimes looking at Mapquest or Google they will show something the
atlas doesn't mention. I mean, there is only so much room on a page...
Joe
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Ed wrote --

EITHER press PrintScr and Open a Image Editor like Irfanview or maybe

even Microsoft's Paint program, then PASTE (CTRL-v) whats on the internet
page, and SAVE it as a .JPG file on your laptop/notebook OR on the Tablet
if there is a PrintScr key function on a Tablet(????).

Sounds like it would be a lot easier to just make notes on paper.
I can pick up a piece of paper and read it rather than having to boot
up a tablet or laptop. (Both of which are going on the trip.)

I 'think' You may want to stop at Dayton

Nowhere near Dayton.
I have revised my plans.
From Rochester its to MI, then Ohio, TX and LA.
Then up to see Daryl, up to see you and over to see Mark then home.
I'll be in your area sometime in latter June.

The Lady Lex was the first of four Aircraft Carrier I was on during My
Navy Service.

I was on a heavy cruiser, the Newport News, CA148.
The only time I stepped foot on a carrier as the Kennedy.
I met a fella who was onboard her and given a tour. That thing was
immense. You could fit a small town in the hanger bay alone! :)
Joe
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Daryl wrote --

I rarely do. The square dances would have a "split the pot"...where
the club got 1/3, the caller got 1/3, and the winner got 1/3. They have
some new Arkansas Lottery Scratch Off Tickets, with a limited promotion
of where you don't have to pay taxes on the winnings.

At the football games cheerleaders hit the tail gating areas selling
raffle tickets with the chance to win some money in the drawing.
One time I brought one and at the next game I mentioned I had never
been called I won the money.
I got a blank look.
One time a woman in the sky box won close to $10,000 and acted like she
was put out at having to give them her name, etc to collect the money.
All of us working the sky box agreed we would happily give whatever information they wanted for that amount. :)
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05-02-19 20:31 NANCY BACKUS wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Travel
Howdy! Nancy,

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Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 05-01-19 09:10 <=-

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... As of next week, passwords will be entered in Morse code.

DIT DAAAAH DIT ( .-. = R which means "ROGER!" or "AFFIRMATIVE!") .
You can tell I held the Key down on the Dash portion of the character
R to show I am V E R Y excited to be able to do that at Sign On.

Thank you for the translation... my knowledge of Morse Code is very rudimentary, as I've never gone for a ham license... ;)

I was 16 when the F.C.C. licensed Me as KN4ZIQ.
The ZIQ part means - Zero Intelligence Quotient ( 0.0 I.Q. ) .

Was that your choice, or was the the usual assignment for novices...?

The F.C.C. issued licenses in alphabetically order back in the late 1950's.
I knew a Ham who was issued the suffix YXY to his call sign, so I was fairly sure the call sign I would get would start with a Z, I was hopeing for ZAP
but when it came time for the F.C.C. to get to My paperwork ZIQ was next
in line to be issued to someone in the Fourth Call Area so they gave that
one to Me.

On my Hallicrafter S38E receiver I would listen to local Hams talking and
some of them had made up interesting Phonetics for their call sign letters,
so I tried and tried and tried to figure out some words for mine.

One night as I was laying in bed, about six months after I got the license
ZERO INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT came to my mind and I stuck with that until I
moved to Indiana which is in the Ninth Call Area, so I sent a Form to the F.C.C. to Modify my license for that area.

I was issued WA9WSB, Washers, Screws and Bolts is what I choose to use
for phonetics even thought some of my friends wanted Me to use:
We Sell Beer, but that one wasn't to my liking.

In the 1970's I applied for another change of call sign and got W9ODR,
which immediately My Ham Friends called Old Dirty Rat and I liked that one
so I use it.

Stay Tuned, Same Time, Same Frequency.
(I remember the old phrase was Same Time, Same Channel - but I never
had a Citizens Band Radio License, so I use the word Frequency instead
of Channel.)

And bbsing isn't quite the same either, not being time-dependent for connection... ;) But it's the same echo, anyway.... ;)

I can grab a QWK Packet from Mike Powell's Capital City BBS almost any time
of Day or Night, except for two time slots when the BBS is getting new mail.

Mike has helped Me learn how to get a QWK Packet using FTP instead of TELNET.

I made a BAT File that calls a FTP Script to do the work of checking for Mail and I'm only Signed On for less than a minute and then Signed Off and start Reading, Lurking, Giggling, Replying whatever... to what I see in the packet.

... ME sane? I don't think so!! ;*)

When it comes to being sane I'm NOT with the IN CROWD.

Did You or the Wizard ever use a Commodore 64 or 128 PC?

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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Howdy! Joe,

After You head East from My area is it Mike Powell or Mark Lewis that
You will visit last?

You wrote "Mark" in two messages and it got Ed's Head spinning around
thinking You meant to write "Mike", who lives between Me and Your Home.

Mark is a L O N G J U M P pass Your WV residence.
He lives in one of the Carolina States, South I think.?



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Nancy,

Both of those are truly horrifying... as well as dangerous/lethal NB>mistakes... I heard of people ending up in fields.... and one couple NB>found themselves at a gated community where they weren't welcome.... NB>Barry's been wondering about what might happen when GPSs that don't know NB>about that major bridge rebuild near him try to direct people onto the NB>old non-existant bridge... and hence right into the river....

If you're depending on an alternate device, rather than your own
resources and common sense, you're asking for trouble. If I was
traveling and driving, I'd go through AAA, and let their Trip Planning
Service map out the route for me, with places to see, stay at, etc.

However, since I prefer to travel by train (Amtrak), I map out the
route, and am content to "let someone else do the driving".

That wasn't what she thought you should be doing... I don't use the NB>things myself... nor do I intend to, ever.... :)

I don't care to, either...and my car (formerly my Mom's) doesn't have
it in there. Plus, if you have one of those in plain sight, you're
asking to get your vehicle vandalized for it.

Was the GPS for the train, then...? Or were you in a car (not a train NB>car) when you were using it....?

I was in the Conductors Cabin (akin to where the Conductor used to be
on a freight train, when they had cabooses)...and it was awfully cramped
in there. We were "rolling down the high iron", and during my
conversation (QSO), you heard the train sound the horn for an upcoming
highway railroad crossing.

Daryl

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Joe,

I am a big Benny fan, from his radio (and early shorts) on to his last
days.

He took the term "frugal cheapskate" to the extreme. :P

Speaking of Mel Blanc (who was associated with Jack for many years) and
the Si/Sy routine and how Mel always keeps a straight face and Jack is JM>trying not to breakup. Every time they do that routine its the same.

I wonder how many times they had to rehearse that before they could do
it, with Jack Benny giving the indication he was "about to lose
it"...but Mel Blanc was as cool as a cucumber.

Jack was a master at the silent pause. Just stand/sit there staring at
the audience or the person he's talking with, not doing anything always JM>breaks people up.

And, it did. Sort of like the look on Groucho Marx's face, when he was
about to "smart off" on "You Bet Your Life".

I will be in your area about mid June.

OK, that works. I just wanted to give you a heads up.

I'm not sure yet on just what day. Depends on how many places I'm told
be out of town by sunset. :)

By the county sheriff, no doubt. Just show them your badge, and
smile <G>. But, as you know, some small towns "roll up the sidewalks at
dusk".

But I will give you advance warning.

Thanks. Even with a calendar on my Android phone, and on the computer,
if I don't cross check the dates, I'm sure to miss something.

Daryl

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Joe,

At the football games cheerleaders hit the tail gating areas selling
raffle tickets with the chance to win some money in the drawing.

College may be "amateur status" for the players, but like the pro
sports, it brings in "big bucks" for the school or organization. And,
you wonder why prices for tickets and concessions (food and drink) are
so high??!! :P

One time a woman in the sky box won close to $10,000 and acted like she
was put out at having to give them her name, etc to collect the money.

Most of the folks who hit it big, are bankrupt within a year or
two...or they end up dead. Folks you never knew "come out of the
woodwork" if you win big time.

All of us working the sky box agreed we would happily give whatever
information they wanted for that amount. :)

Especially if you had big bills to pay at the time.

Thank goodness many medical facilities have a "financial hardship
program". If you're on a limited, fixed income (as I am), if you make or receive below a certain monetary threshold each month, your bill is
"written off". I've taken advantage of that several times.

Daryl
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Nancy,

Thank you for the translation... my knowledge of Morse Code is very NB>rudimentary, as I've never gone for a ham license... ;)

The FCC dropped the Morse Code requirement for getting a ham radio
license in February, 2007. Now, folks are learning Morse Code because
they WANT to...and NOT because they HAVE to.

Was that your choice, or was the the usual assignment for novices...?

The FCC normally issues callsigns in a sequential format...such as
N5VLX, N5VLY, N5VLZ (which was my first callsign), N5VMA, N5VMB, N5VMC,
etc. The 1x3 calls (1 letter, a number (the callsign district) and 3
letters) have all been used, but are still available in some cases as
"vanity callsigns". One no longer has to pay a fee for the vanity
callsign, but there's a 21 day waiting period after requesting one.
Also, the first callsign a ham radio operator gets is
"sequential"...they have no choice in that one.

And bbsing isn't quite the same either, not being time-dependent for NB>connection... ;) But it's the same echo, anyway.... ;)

That's why I like QWK mail...where I can spend my time offline reading
and replying...saving my online time for games. That was more important
on a dial-up BBS, but there aren't many of them left (I think less than
20 still exist). There's around 400 telnet BBS's around the world, and
those can be accessed from anywhere, without long distance
charges...unless they have to pay long distance to reach their ISP.

Daryl

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Ed,

After You head East from My area is it Mike Powell or Mark Lewis that
You will visit last?

You wrote "Mark" in two messages and it got Ed's Head spinning around EV>thinking You meant to write "Mike", who lives between Me and Your Home.

Mark is a L O N G J U M P pass Your WV residence.
He lives in one of the Carolina States, South I think.?

Marc Lewis, my FIDONet hub, is in Huntsville, Alabama...site of "the
world's friendliest hamfest". But, there is A LOT OF WALKING to be
done...even if you're staying at the Embassy Suites, and walk to the
adjacent Von Braun Center.

Daryl, WX4QZ

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Daryl wrote --

He took the term "frugal cheapskate" to the extreme. :P

I loved how the writers were always try to make him as cheap as
possible.
I wonder if the Acme Plaza in NYC is still open?
One time on Fred Allen's show when he was a guest and Allen went on
and about his frugality. Finally he erupted saying "The writers on
MY show don't make me that cheap!"

And, it did. Sort of like the look on Groucho Marx's face, when

he was about to "smart off" on "You Bet Your Life".

Ah, that look, wiggling his cigar and leering when he was about to
say something. Classic.
Comedy isn't like that today. ==sigh==
I'm a big fan of What's My Line and watch a couple of shows a week,
on Sunday of course.
Poor Bennett Cerf. If he were alive today he wouldn't last two
minutes on a stage.
When a pretty girl was trying to stump them he would make some
remark about her looks and if that helped her in whatever she work
she did.

By the county sheriff, no doubt. Just show them your badge, and
smile <G>. But, as you know, some small towns "roll up the

sidewalks at dusk".

I'm usually getting ready for bed by then.
This time of of year its still light out when I turn in.
Of course I'm up around 4.30 or 5.
On my trip I will really be confused staying up to all hours of the
night, as late as 9 or 10.
I got used to getting early when working and still do it. If I
should lay in till 6 to me half the day is gone.

Thanks. Even with a calendar on my Android phone, and on the

computer, if I don't cross check the dates, I'm sure to miss
something.

I'm old fashioned. I print out a free calendar (on the back of
junk mail) and use that for appointments, etc. With a couple of
flips of paper I can see the whole year. Plus I don't have the worry
of a crash or accidentally hitting "delete" and lose everything.
Joe


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05-05-19 12:56 Daryl Stout wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Travel
Howdy! Again Daryl,

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Ed,

After You head East from My area is it Mike Powell or Mark Lewis that
You will visit last?

You wrote "Mark" in two messages and it got Ed's Head spinning around
thinking You meant to write "Mike", who lives between Me and Your Home.

Mark is a L O N G J U M P pass Your WV residence.
He lives in one of the Carolina States, South I think.?

Marc Lewis, my FIDONet hub, is in Huntsville, Alabama...site of "the world's friendliest hamfest". But, there is A LOT OF WALKING to be done...even if you're staying at the Embassy Suites, and walk to the adjacent Von Braun Center.

After leaving the Space Center We learned that was a Convention (not Ham)
in town and it took a lot of stops to find a Motel that had a room available for Us that night.
Huntsville must be a very popular place for groups to gather.

There's Marc and then there's )\/(ark, two different Lewis's in two different places.

But there's only ONE JOE!

And ONE YOU!

We Are All Unique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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Quoting Joe Mackey to Ed Vance on 05-02-19 07:59 <=-

Ed wrote to Nancy --

Nancy, I'm sure Joe will stop at the first REST STOP after driving
across a State Line and get a up-to-date Map and get answers to
questions about traveling through the State.

I'm going up the Hudson from NYC to Syracuse for a couple of days.
I plan to write Nancy then since Rochester will be my next stop.
I plan to do the same with each stop. Like a day or two ahead.

The trickiest part of Rochester will be coordinating with Jim... you
might have to hang around for a couple days to connect with both of
us... ;)

I don't want to make definite plans and say I'll be somewhere on a
certain day since I might change my mind about travel and the times
there. This will be a nice leisurely trip, no "I gotta be there" at a certain time. Now once I warn the the next person on the trip that
will be change. I don't want someone waiting around for me for hours while I wander around here and there.

At least it's only a couple of hours from Syracuse to Rochester... ;)
Unless there are too many historic markers you want to stop at on your
way... ;)

And when do you actually hit the road and start your road trip...?

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-02-19 19:12 <=-

So sit down in the proper position while you figure it out... safest
that way... <G>

The busiest seat in the house. :P Janice offered to "bring the
computer, TV, and ham radio in there" as "I spent so much time in the "orifice". :P

I only bring the phone in there....

I never win anything either.... but then, I also don't enter anything,
either.... ;)

I rarely do. The square dances would have a "split the pot"...where
the club got 1/3, the caller got 1/3, and the winner got 1/3.

Pay the caller, make a little for the club, and give an incentive for donations.... As I was telling Joe, a group I was treasurer for once had
a 50-50 raffle, similar deal....

They have some new Arkansas Lottery Scratch Off Tickets, with a limited promotion of where you don't have to pay taxes on the winnings.
I think the most I won off of those scratch off tickets was $15.

I don't bother with those at all... I always figure I'd spend more than
I'd ever win... and who really gets the benefit...

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

The trickiest part of Rochester will be coordinating with Jim... you
might have to hang around for a couple days to connect with both of
us... ;)

I'll leave it up to you to let him know the date and time.
If he misses that's his bad luck. :)

And when do you actually hit the road and start your road trip...?

Monday the 13th.
I pick up my car at 8.30, then load and plan to be on the road around
10-ish.
First stop is Alexandria, VA to see a couple of old friends, then the
15th is Gettysburg then Harrisburg that evening. Leave there on the 17th
head toward NYC. (So far those are only rooms I have reserved. I don't
want to arrive somewhere and find there is no room at the inn.
I plan to stay there about two or three days (max) and staying with a
FOAF I've never met. Then on to Syracuse for another two (max three)
days. I'll know more about my arrival in Rochester once I get to
Syracuse. That way the bands and parade for my arrival will have a
better time, along with city dignities with the speeches of welcome, the
mayor giving me the key to city and all the other things and surprises
I'm sure you have planned. :)
Joe
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Ed wrote to Daryl --

There's Marc and then there's )\/(ark, two different Lewis's in two

different places.

But there's only ONE JOE!

And ONE YOU!

We Are All Unique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of us are more uniquer than others. :)
Joe


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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-03-19 07:10 <=-

For specific directions at the end of a day's leg of the trip, I might
have that written out separately, especially for a new area...

I've always done that.
The night before I go over the map and get more detailed
information. And when I get to you (along with everyone else) I'll
call and say I'm on Rt X at such-and-such a place to get detailed directions to where I'm to be. :)

We'll have to figure out meeting place(s)... :)

True in most cases... often criss-crossing underneath/over the interstate.... but sometimes parts do get lost....

When I lived in Colorado I 25 replaced the old north/south road and
the old road was even torn up. There might be bits and pieces of the
old road off to the side.

I've seen that sort of thing when a state route gets updated and moved a little... often there are patches of the old road to the side... some of
them actually still in use, and connecting at both ends, but some just fragments... I've seen that a lot along Rt 11 and Rt 3 in upstate NY... :)

I guess you waited too long to check them out... prices just keep going up.... ;)

They are the highest in price they have ever been, but cheaper than
they will ever be again. :)

True...

Sometimes looking at Mapquest or Google they will show something the
atlas doesn't mention. I mean, there is only so much room on a
page...

Yup... when the map is to a larger scale, a lot more detail can be
added... and places of interest are more likely to show up... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

We'll have to figure out meeting place(s)... :)

Plus a time.

I've seen that sort of thing when a state route gets updated and

moved a little... often there are patches of the old road to the
side... some of them actually still in use, and connecting at both
ends, but some just fragments

We have a state road here, Rt 2, that's north-south, runs mostly
along the Ohio River.
It was one of the first paved highways in WV, in the late '20's and
was brick. In the '40's or '50's it was straightened a bit (it had
gone around farms and such) and made of concrete. Portions of the
old brick road still are in use, as limited access to various places,
such as a house that was along the old road.
Huntington once had its own brick works for buildings as well as
streets. We still have brick streets here and there though most are
paved with asphalt.
Funny thing. With the slight gaps between the bricks for water run
off they never get a pot hole. A street of concrete or asphalt will.
Those that were paved over the hole will go to the brick and stop.
The others with no brick under them have holes deep enough to get
lost in.

Sometimes looking at Mapquest or Google they will show

something the atlas doesn't mention. I mean, there is only so much
room on the page...

Yup... when the map is to a larger scale, a lot more detail can be
added... and places of interest are more likely to show up... :)

One thing I miss are state maps you could find at every gas
station. Those are gone now. Oh I imagine they are still around
somewhere, tourist stops and all, but not on every corner like
before. Those often held a a lot of detail.
Joe
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Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 05-04-19 10:11 <=-

I was 16 when the F.C.C. licensed Me as KN4ZIQ.
The ZIQ part means - Zero Intelligence Quotient ( 0.0 I.Q. ) .

Was that your choice, or was it the usual assignment for novices...?

The F.C.C. issued licenses in alphabetically order back in the late 1950's. I knew a Ham who was issued the suffix YXY to his call sign, so
I was fairly sure the call sign I would get would start with a Z, I was hopeing for ZAP but when it came time for the F.C.C. to get to My paperwork ZIQ was next in line to be issued to someone in the Fourth
Call Area so they gave that one to Me.

Ah, ok... it's like the auto license plates here... When I got my
current car, I knew I'd be getting new plates, the series was just
getting into starting with B, so I'd hoped for BAC... what I got was
BYC...

On my Hallicrafter S38E receiver I would listen to local Hams talking
and some of them had made up interesting Phonetics for their call sign letters, so I tried and tried and tried to figure out some words for
mine.
One night as I was laying in bed, about six months after I got the
license ZERO INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT came to my mind and I stuck with
that until I moved to Indiana which is in the Ninth Call Area, so I
sent a Form to the F.C.C. to Modify my license for that area.

Cute... ;) So your choice as to what the phonetics would be, but the
luck of the draw for getting them in the first place....

I was issued WA9WSB, Washers, Screws and Bolts is what I choose to use
for phonetics even thought some of my friends wanted Me to use:
We Sell Beer, but that one wasn't to my liking.

I'm with you on that... <G> Never even liked the taste of beer,
myself... not an issue with alcohol, just the hops in the beer as it
turned out....

In the 1970's I applied for another change of call sign and got W9ODR, which immediately My Ham Friends called Old Dirty Rat and I liked that
one so I use it.

I'll have to remember that one... ;) I often play the same game with
license plates as I see them... we've come up with some rather creative
ones over the years... I decided that my BYC stands for Baby Your Car...

Stay Tuned, Same Time, Same Frequency.
(I remember the old phrase was Same Time, Same Channel - but I never
had a Citizens Band Radio License, so I use the word Frequency instead
of Channel.)

And bbsing isn't quite the same either, not being time-dependent for
connection... ;) But it's the same echo, anyway.... ;)

I can grab a QWK Packet from Mike Powell's Capital City BBS almost any time of Day or Night, except for two time slots when the BBS is getting new mail.
Mike has helped Me learn how to get a QWK Packet using FTP instead of TELNET.

And I can do the same from any of the bbses I call, except I still do it
by telnet... :)

I made a BAT File that calls a FTP Script to do the work of checking
for Mail and I'm only Signed On for less than a minute and then Signed
Off and start Reading, Lurking, Giggling, Replying whatever... to what
I see in the packet.

Nice to see you replying more than lurking lately, btw... :) I don't
mind being signed on to the bbs for a bit longer time... I check out the
day's traffic, play my turn in Scrabble (and some places, a couple other games), one place I can check the weather forecast.. and I also do my
mail run, up and downloading... :)

... ME sane? I don't think so!! ;*)

When it comes to being sane I'm NOT with the IN CROWD.

I've got a tagline that says the opposite... ;) (Omits the NOT)

Did You or the Wizard ever use a Commodore 64 or 128 PC?

That might have been what my sister's husband had at one time... I'd go
over to borrow their computer to do my minutes on their word processor
before we had our own PC.... My sister talked me into it... Dunno what
all the Wizard used at work (or back in college in the computer
center)... definitely mainframes, but possibly also some other as well...

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-03-19 16:35 <=-

Both of those are truly horrifying... as well as dangerous/lethal
mistakes... I heard of people ending up in fields.... and one couple
found themselves at a gated community where they weren't welcome....
Barry's been wondering about what might happen when GPSs that don't
know about that major bridge rebuild near him try to direct people
onto the old non-existant bridge... and hence right into the river....

If you're depending on an alternate device, rather than your own
resources and common sense, you're asking for trouble. If I was
traveling and driving, I'd go through AAA, and let their Trip Planning Service map out the route for me, with places to see, stay at, etc.

My feelings as well... and I do go to AAA and get my maps from them,
sometimes also getting the TourBook(s) for the region(s) I'm visiting...
and I'll sit down with their advisors and plan out my trip, to get the
TripTik custom-made to my preferences...

However, since I prefer to travel by train (Amtrak), I map out the
route, and am content to "let someone else do the driving".

That can work, too... although it's not quite as flexible... :)

That wasn't what she thought you should be doing... I don't use the
things myself... nor do I intend to, ever.... :)

I don't care to, either...and my car (formerly my Mom's) doesn't
have it in there. Plus, if you have one of those in plain sight, you're asking to get your vehicle vandalized for it.

Perhaps not as much nowadays, with so many people having them now....
kinda like the car radio, which used to be a prime target for thieves,
but now rarely is....

Was the GPS for the train, then...? Or were you in a car (not a train
car) when you were using it....?

I was in the Conductors Cabin (akin to where the Conductor used to
be on a freight train, when they had cabooses)...and it was awfully cramped in there. We were "rolling down the high iron", and during my conversation (QSO), you heard the train sound the horn for an upcoming highway railroad crossing.

So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still missing something....?

ttyl neb

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Joe,

One time on Fred Allen's show when he was a guest and Allen went on
and about his frugality. Finally he erupted saying "The writers on
MY show don't make me that cheap!"

Or, he didn't want to admit it. <G>

Ah, that look, wiggling his cigar and leering when he was about to
say something. Classic.

It was...and it took forever for the audience to quit laughing. <G>

Comedy isn't like that today. ==sigh==

Sad, but true. They think "the raunchier, the better"...such as some
of the material with Ventriloquist Jeff Dunham.

Now, 2 other ventriloquists...Todd Oliver (who uses his dog, Irving,
in his act), and 14 year old singing ventriloquist Darci Lynn Farmer,
both have G-Rated shows...and they are a riot!! Not one hint of
suggestiveness, innuendo, profanity, etc.

On "America's Got Talent", when judge Howard Stern (aka "The Shock
Jock") told Todd that "he needed to spice the act up a bit (with
language), Todd said "I don't want my kids exposed to that garbage", and
they penalized him for that.

Darci Lynn Farmer won the 2012 AGT competition, up against Angelica
Hale (about 2 1/2 years younger than Darci), but both are great friends.
It was noble of her to invite Angelica and her family to come to Las
Vegas with her, and be part of the show...which sold out quick. I saw
Todd in Branson a few years ago, and Darci is coming to Little Rock in November...but right now, I can't afford to buy a ticket.

I'm a big fan of What's My Line and watch a couple of shows a week,
on Sunday of course.

I think John Daly (not the golfer) and Wally Bruner, were 2 of the
hosts. There may have been others, but I don't call them.

Poor Bennett Cerf. If he were alive today he wouldn't last two
minutes on a stage.

Didn't he did a book on riddles??

When a pretty girl was trying to stump them he would make some
remark about her looks and if that helped her in whatever she work
she did.

The night on What's My Life, when you had Arlene Francis, Dorothy
Kilgallen, Groucho Marx, and Bennett Cerf on the panel, the contestant
was a female lady wrestler...and it was an absolute scream. Groucho was
milking it for all it was worth!! <G> Host John Daly admonished Groucho
that "if he didn't behave, she'd put him on the floor!!" <G>.

This time of of year its still light out when I turn in.
Of course I'm up around 4.30 or 5.

You're like my late father was...up before the chickens...or as I term
it "the butt crack of dawn".

I'm old fashioned. I print out a free calendar (on the back of
junk mail) and use that for appointments, etc. With a couple of
flips of paper I can see the whole year. Plus I don't have the worry
of a crash or accidentally hitting "delete" and lose everything.

I have 365 dates a year...there's a calendar on the wall <G>.

Daryl
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Howdy! Again Daryl,

Hi, Ed...

After leaving the Space Center We learned that was a Convention (not Ham) EV>in town and it took a lot of stops to find a Motel that had a room available EV>for Us that night.
Huntsville must be a very popular place for groups to gather.

I saw where they're starting construction on a new hotel near the Von
Braun Center.

There's Marc and then there's )\/(ark, two different Lewis's in two differen EV>places.

But there's only ONE JOE!

If he's cloning himself, then we're in trouble. <g,d,r>

And ONE YOU!

I've found others with similar names on Skype and Facebook...and there
was even a ham at one time.

We Are All Unique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just like your thumb print...you are thumb-body. <G>

I have to credit that to Christian comedian and singer Mark Lowery.

Daryl

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Nancy,

My feelings as well... and I do go to AAA and get my maps from them, NB>sometimes also getting the TourBook(s) for the region(s) I'm visiting... NB>and I'll sit down with their advisors and plan out my trip, to get the NB>TripTik custom-made to my preferences...

I also use their identity theft monitoring, along with one from
Discover Card. I don't have a credit card anymore, but after being the
victim of identity theft several years ago, one can't be too careful.

That can work, too... although it's not quite as flexible... :)

Well, not having funding to travel makes it less flexible. :P

Perhaps not as much nowadays, with so many people having them now.... NB>kinda like the car radio, which used to be a prime target for thieves, NB>but now rarely is....

If the car "looks like crap", they're not as likely to steal it.

I remember several years ago, in the Dallas area, there was a rash of
car break-ins, thefts, etc. So, the police department rigged up these
real nice cars into "rolling booby traps"...yet, they looked like
nothing fancy had been done to them. They'd leave the vehicle in a high
theft area, with keys in the ignition, unlocked, etc. baiting the
thieves.

On one TV show, Janice and I were watching it...and the cops were
laughing like mad at the thieves actions. The cops let them have their
fun for a time, then decided they'd had enough. They pressed a button,
and the doors locked, the windows rolled up, the engine died, and as the
car coasted to a stop, the radio blared the theme from COPS"..."What
'cha gonna do when they come for you??", as police cars pulled up around
the vehicle. The thugs were dead to rights...caught in the act!!

So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still missing NB>something....?

Usually it was for us to see where we were on the route. As we
traveled from central to northwest Arkansas and back, it gave us updates
on traffic, construction, detours (if needed, etc.). I now use the app
from IDriveArkansas.Com -- both on the phone and the website...checking
that before I go out. If I see traffic snarls, I avoid the area, or
delay the trip.

Daryl

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Joe,

But there's only ONE JOE!

And ONE YOU!

We Are All Unique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of us are more uniquer than others. :)

Braggert. <G>

Sounds like the ending from George Orwell's "Animal Farm".

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-07-19 07:56 <=-

The trickiest part of Rochester will be coordinating with Jim... you
might have to hang around for a couple days to connect with both of
us... ;)

I'll leave it up to you to let him know the date and time.
If he misses that's his bad luck. :)

Hmmmm... hopefully I still have his contact info somewhere... ;)
Haven't actually been in contact with him for quite a while now....

And when do you actually hit the road and start your road trip...?

Monday the 13th.
I pick up my car at 8.30, then load and plan to be on the road
around 10-ish.

Will you be keeping up with the echo while you are on your road trip...?
Or will the only way to reach you be by phone....?

First stop is Alexandria, VA to see a couple of old friends, then
the 15th is Gettysburg then Harrisburg that evening. Leave there on
the 17th head toward NYC. (So far those are only rooms I have
reserved. I don't want to arrive somewhere and find there is no room
at the inn. I plan to stay there about two or three days (max) and
staying with a FOAF I've never met. Then on to Syracuse for another
two (max three) days.

Plotting that out on my calendar puts your arrival dangerously close to
when I'm going out of town for an overnight trip up to the Adirondacks
for my spring board meeting on the 25th... planning to drive up Friday
and come home after the meeting the afternoon of Saturday.... I'd be
getting home probably after 8pm Saturday... Sunday is church pretty much
the whole day....

I'll know more about my arrival in Rochester
once I get to Syracuse. That way the bands and parade for my arrival
will have a better time, along with city dignities with the speeches of welcome, the mayor giving me the key to city and all the other things
and surprises I'm sure you have planned. :)

Well, if you arrive on Memorial Day (27th), that might be
arrangeable.... sort of... <G>

ttyl neb

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Daryl wrote --

Some of us are more uniquer than others. :)

Braggert. <G>

I was referring to you. :)

Sounds like the ending from George Orwell's "Animal Farm".

Oink oink.
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Nancy wrote --

Hmmmm... hopefully I still have his contact info somewhere... ;)
Haven't actually been in contact with him for quite a while now....

I better drop him another line and remind him.

Will you be keeping up with the echo while you are on your road

trip...?

Off and on.
When I hit NYC and Syracuse I'll probably be too busy.
Its bad form to sit in the corner when visiting guests playing on
the laptop. :)
Once I hit Syracuse I'll have a more definite arrival day and time.
I discovered by accident I can get driving time between cities with
Google.
I had been using a ruler and measuring distance, factoring in
speed, and adding time for unexpected events, etc. Then putting that
to paper.
Now I just give from here to there then cut and paste that average
to a text file. So no trying to figure out when the writing is cold
"what does this mean?" :)
The only problem is Google uses interstate travel and I want to
avoid them as much as possible. Thus, adding time.
Ex: Driving distance with Google from Syracuse to Rochester is
around 90 minutes. I figure with my speed, road, etc. I'd give
myself two hours to be on the safe side.

Or will the only way to reach you be by phone....?

I'll drop an e-mail saying something like "I plan to arrive on X
day", following with one saying at such-and-such time asking the best
place to meet. I would like to time the meetings around lunch or
early afternoon.
This general principle applies also to Daryl, Ed and Mark (Mike,
Mick, Mork, whoever <g? in Frankfort.

Plotting that out on my calendar puts your arrival dangerously

close to when I'm going out of town

Seems almost everyone on my trip is planning on leaving town when I
plan to be in their area... Hmmm...
My dates are subject to change. I may stay two days in NYC and
Syracuse or I may stay three. Instead of one day going up the Hudson
it might be two. Depends on what catches my eye.
I was thinking of adding Waukeegan, IL to my trip to visit the home
town of Jack Benny, my role model in money management. But from what
I've read there is really nothing there to see other than a high
school named after him and a statue in a park. I may or may not go
there, but that's long after seeing you and Jim.
Joe
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Daryl wrote to Nancy --

I remember several years ago, in the Dallas area, there was a

rash of car break-ins, thefts, etc.

We had a soft top Jeep on campus a few years the owner had taped to
a window a note reading: "Everything that can be stolen has been
stolen. This car has no radio, speakers", and on and with the list
read and at the end was "But you are happy to look around if you
want". I about laughing over that.

fun for a time, then decided they'd had enough. They pressed a

button, and the doors locked, the windows rolled up, the engine died

I've seen videos of those on You Tube.
Speaking of which.
Several years ago the Marshall PD got new Impala's. These had a
panic button somewhere on the dash that rolled up the windows, locked
the doors inside and out with kill switch to the engine among other
things.
A couple of days after they first arrived they were at a car wash.
The doors were open when the guy was wiping down the dash area and accidentally hit that button. I, not knowing about this button,
climbed into the back seat to watch as others who were trying to
figure out how to over ride this. When I got in, being a chilly
morning, I absent-mindlessly shut the door, which being a police car
can only be opened from the outside. And with the screen between me
and the back seat I was trapped.
The car wash people, several cops and a woman from the parking
office (who had been called in to help figure this out) were all
standing around shaking their heads and laughing.
Even the chief got involved and shaking his head and sighing.
About a half hour later it reset and the doors could be opened.
The chief looked at me and said the only time he wanted me in the
back of that car again was I was to be in cuffs. LOL

So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still

missing something....?

Usually it was for us to see where we were on the route.

Our buses have them and with a free app so one see where the bus is
en-route to that stop.
GPS is also used to track cars that are stolen.
Plus, one can look up a car and see where it is.
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Joe,

Some of us are more uniquer than others. :)

Braggert. <G>

I was referring to you. :)

<BLUSH!> :P

Sounds like the ending from George Orwell's "Animal Farm".

Oink oink.

Whenever my late wife saw a pig, she said she thought of "ham, bacon, sausage, pork, etc.". <G>

Daryl

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Joe,

We had a soft top Jeep on campus a few years the owner had taped to
a window a note reading: "Everything that can be stolen has been
stolen. This car has no radio, speakers", and on and with the list
read and at the end was "But you are happy to look around if you
want". I about laughing over that.

Talk about an open invitation!!

The chief looked at me and said the only time he wanted me in the
back of that car again was I was to be in cuffs. LOL

You're lucky he didn't bust you right then.

GPS is also used to track cars that are stolen.
Plus, one can look up a car and see where it is.

I have an app on my smartphone, so I could enter the correct LAT/LON
data for the APRS ham radio application, so folks can see "where I am"
on aprs.fi -- however, the data that's entered off of the D-Rats ham
radio application "never changes"...but it shows where I'm at.

If I'm not here, can I raise my hand?? :P

On second thought, maybe I should put the hand back down. Oh well,
tomorrow is Saturday night. <G>

Daryl

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Joe,

Its bad form to sit in the corner when visiting guests playing on
the laptop. :)

Sorry about that...I got bored with your conversation. <G>

I'll drop an e-mail saying something like "I plan to arrive on X
day", following with one saying at such-and-such time asking the best JM>place to meet. I would like to time the meetings around lunch or
early afternoon.

I've decided where we'll graze...I just need to know the route you're
coming when you get closer, to give you directions. Little Rock isn't as
big as St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, or Jackson...but you can get lost
in a hurry, if you don't know where you're going.

This general principle applies also to Daryl, Ed and Mark (Mike,
Mick, Mork, whoever <g? in Frankfort.

You forgot Mindy being with Mork...but it's Mike in Frankfort. <G>

Seems almost everyone on my trip is planning on leaving town when I
plan to be in their area... Hmmm...

If it had been this time in 2020, I might have been headed to Spokane.
Right now, if I do get a trip, it'd be in September, 2019...or June,
2020.

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

I've decided where we'll graze...I just need to know the route you're coming when you get closer,

I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. Then continuing NNE to Ed in
New Albany, IN.
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Joe,

I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. Then continuing NNE to Ed in
New Albany, IN.

OK, you'll be coming up from El Dorado. US 167 eventually joins with Interstate 530 heading north from Pine Bluff to Little Rock. At the
"South Terminal Interchange", you have:

1) Interstate 440, the bypass around the southeast side of Little Rock,
with the closest access to Little Rock National Airport. Right now, at Interstate 40, it changes to "Arkansas State Highway 440". Political lollygagging, boondoggling, etc. as well as resident and government
opposition, have prevented it from making a full loop around the
northside of the Little Rock Metro Area. Right now, the north end of it
is at the junction of US 67/167 to Jacksonville and communities further northeast.

2) Interstate 30...westbound to Benton, Malvern, Hot Springs, Texarkana,
and eventually to Dallas and Fort Worth...then eastbound to where it
junctions with Interstate 40 -- westbound to Conway, Russellville, Fort
Smith, and Oklahoma City...and eastbound to Lonoke, Brinkley, Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville.

You'll stay on I-30 until Exit 143, and take Interstate 40 east, like
you're going toward Memphis. Look for Exit 155 on the left, US67/167 to Jacksonville (where the Little Rock Air Force Base is located), and
Saint Louis. Eventually, that entire stretch will be renamed Interstate
57.

Take Exit 155, and go to Exit 2. You'll get off there, and do a
turnaround under the overpass (the service roads on each side of the
freeway are one way, with the flow of traffic). Once headed back south,
look for The Golden Corral Restaurant on your right. I think they open
at 11am during the week, but do a breakfast buffet on the weekends.

I know I'm tied up on Saturday, June 1, and Saturday, June 8, with ham
radio license exams -- but right now, Saturday, June 15, looks free.

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-08-19 06:19 <=-

We'll have to figure out meeting place(s)... :)

Plus a time.

That, too... :)

I've seen that sort of thing when a state route gets updated and
moved a little... often there are patches of the old road to the
side... some of them actually still in use, and connecting at both
ends, but some just fragments...

We have a state road here, Rt 2, that's north-south, runs mostly
along the Ohio River.
It was one of the first paved highways in WV, in the late '20's and
was brick. In the '40's or '50's it was straightened a bit (it had
gone around farms and such) and made of concrete. Portions of the
old brick road still are in use, as limited access to various places, such as a house that was along the old road.

And probably stay in better repair than the current state road... ;)

Huntington once had its own brick works for buildings as well as
streets. We still have brick streets here and there though most are paved with asphalt.
Funny thing. With the slight gaps between the bricks for water run
off they never get a pot hole. A street of concrete or asphalt will. Those that were paved over the hole will go to the brick and stop.
The others with no brick under them have holes deep enough to get
lost in.

I've seen that happen here, too... The main street nearest our house had
(maybe still does) an underlay of the original brick road, with the
trolley tracks that ran in the middle... I'm pretty sure they've taken
out the tracks now... it's all paved over with asphalt anyway....

Sometimes looking at Mapquest or Google they will show
something the atlas doesn't mention. I mean, there is only so much room on the page...

Yup... when the map is to a larger scale, a lot more detail can be
added... and places of interest are more likely to show up... :)

One thing I miss are state maps you could find at every gas
station. Those are gone now. Oh I imagine they are still around somewhere, tourist stops and all, but not on every corner like
before. Those often held a a lot of detail.

Yup, that's the sort I stock up on from AAA.... And now that the
membership is on the person, not the vehicle, it could be worth your
while to join up if you haven't already... Some years I've paid for my membership just in the maps and trip routing... ;)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-09-19 13:12 <=-

My feelings as well... and I do go to AAA and get my maps from them,
sometimes also getting the TourBook(s) for the region(s) I'm
visiting... and I'll sit down with their advisors and plan out my
trip, to get the TripTik custom-made to my preferences...

I also use their identity theft monitoring, along with one from
Discover Card. I don't have a credit card anymore, but after being the victim of identity theft several years ago, one can't be too careful.

I don't use AAA's for that... did have one for free for a while after
something had been hacked... never have had an issue, thankfully... :)

That can work, too... although it's not quite as flexible... :)

Well, not having funding to travel makes it less flexible. :P

There is that... ;0

If the car "looks like crap", they're not as likely to steal it.

Except, perhaps, for a joy ride....

I remember several years ago, in the Dallas area, there was a rash
of car break-ins, thefts, etc. So, the police department rigged up
these real nice cars into "rolling booby traps"...yet, they looked like nothing fancy had been done to them. They'd leave the vehicle in a
high theft area, with keys in the ignition, unlocked, etc. baiting the thieves.
On one TV show, Janice and I were watching it...and the cops were
laughing like mad at the thieves actions. The cops let them have their
fun for a time, then decided they'd had enough. They pressed a button,
and the doors locked, the windows rolled up, the engine died, and as
the car coasted to a stop, the radio blared the theme from
COPS"..."What 'cha gonna do when they come for you??", as police cars pulled up around the vehicle. The thugs were dead to rights...caught in the act!!

I wonder if they thought twice the next time.... <G>

So what was the GPS for, anyway, then....? Or am I still missing
something....?

Usually it was for us to see where we were on the route. As we
traveled from central to northwest Arkansas and back, it gave us
updates on traffic, construction, detours (if needed, etc.).

But if you were on a train, what good are those updates....? If you
were driving a vehicle, I understand better.... :)

I now use the app from IDriveArkansas.Com -- both on the phone and
the website...checking that before I go out. If I see traffic
snarls, I avoid the area, or delay the trip.

Warned ahead of time... you'd be able to make other plans, then...

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Nancy,

But if you were on a train, what good are those updates....? If you
were driving a vehicle, I understand better.... :)

If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm
at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.

Warned ahead of time... you'd be able to make other plans, then...

Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds
like a tagline in the making. <G>

... Love me or leave me... HEY! where is everyone going!

Sounds like my situation.

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-10-19 07:19 <=-

Hmmmm... hopefully I still have his contact info somewhere... ;)
Haven't actually been in contact with him for quite a while now....

I better drop him another line and remind him.

Just got a cc of his reply to you... so now I have both your phone and
his numbers... ;)

Will you be keeping up with the echo while you are on your road
trip...?

Off and on.
When I hit NYC and Syracuse I'll probably be too busy.
Its bad form to sit in the corner when visiting guests playing on
the laptop. :)

Unless they are similarly occupied... :)

Once I hit Syracuse I'll have a more definite arrival day and time.

Where do you head after Rochester....?

I discovered by accident I can get driving time between cities with Google.
I had been using a ruler and measuring distance, factoring in
speed, and adding time for unexpected events, etc. Then putting that
to paper.
Now I just give from here to there then cut and paste that average
to a text file. So no trying to figure out when the writing is cold "what does this mean?" :)
The only problem is Google uses interstate travel and I want to
avoid them as much as possible. Thus, adding time.
Ex: Driving distance with Google from Syracuse to Rochester is
around 90 minutes. I figure with my speed, road, etc. I'd give
myself two hours to be on the safe side.

My experience has been that often I can make as good, or at least almost
as good, time using the back roads... sometimes, actually better.... But allowing extra time is a good idea, even when one is using interstates
and/or the toll roads.... :)

Or will the only way to reach you be by phone....?

I'll drop an e-mail saying something like "I plan to arrive on X
day", following with one saying at such-and-such time asking the best place to meet. I would like to time the meetings around lunch or
early afternoon.

Ah, so you'll still be checking your email on the trip... :)

This general principle applies also to Daryl, Ed and Mark (Mike,
Mick, Mork, whoever <g? in Frankfort.

Plotting that out on my calendar puts your arrival dangerously
close to when I'm going out of town

Seems almost everyone on my trip is planning on leaving town when I
plan to be in their area... Hmmm...
My dates are subject to change. I may stay two days in NYC and
Syracuse or I may stay three. Instead of one day going up the Hudson
it might be two. Depends on what catches my eye.

Just grist for your mill... It looks as though either the 22nd (Wed) or
the 27th (Memorial Day/Monday) work best for me for your Rochester stop...
or possibly the next day in the afternoon... I do have to be out of town
for a meeting (I'm treasurer, have to be there) on that Saturday (25th),
will be driving up on Friday, coming back by probably 8pm on Saturday... Hopefully there will be lots to detain you in the meantime.... <G>

I was thinking of adding Waukeegan, IL to my trip to visit the home
town of Jack Benny, my role model in money management. But from what I've read there is really nothing there to see other than a high
school named after him and a statue in a park. I may or may not go there, but that's long after seeing you and Jim.

Depends on whether or not you want to genuflect at his statue.... <G>

ttyl neb

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Daryl wrote --

I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. T

OK, you'll be coming up from El Dorado.

Thanks. Saved as text file.
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Nancy wrote --

(maybe still does) an underlay of the original brick road, with the
trolley tracks that ran in the middle... I'm pretty sure they've taken
out the tracks now... it's all paved over with asphalt anyway....

We have only one section of trolley track left, which runs under a
viaduct (underpass for the CSX mainline).
I don't know if more remain or not. The powers that be started
asphalting streets in the '50s.
Another great thing about brick streets is road repair. If done right
the bricks are taken up, whatever underneath is repaired, the bricks put
back and you can't tell the street had been dug up.
To often asphalt is just put there.

while to join up if you haven't already... Some years I've paid for my membership just in the maps and trip routing... ;)

I figure when I stop a motel if Mapquest or Google doesn't have a short
cut listed the people there will know the city streets.
If nothing else the above will be more detailed due to my position.
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Nancy wrote --

I better drop him another line and remind him.

Just got a cc of his reply to you... so now I have both your phone and
his numbers... ;)

I dropped him a note a few days ago but haven't heard anything from him
yet.

Where do you head after Rochester....?

Erie, Pa for a day or two, then on to Farmington Hills, MI (outside
Detroit) for a day, then on to Denver.
From there down to Roswell, NM (to visit Daryl's relatives and
generally look for UFO's), on to San Antonio, TX, to LA then up to see
Daryl, up to see Ed in IN, then Mark in Frankfort, KY and home. (From
Ed's its a straight shot home).
Not to mention expected (and unexpected) side trips.

Just grist for your mill... It looks as though either the 22nd (Wed)

or the 27th (Memorial Day/Monday) work best for me

Ok.
I'm still not sure of the date yet. Depends on how much I enjoy
staying at other places along the way or how soon they put my suitcases
outside their front door. :)
I can give a more definite time and day once I hit Syracuse since
Rochester is only about 90 minutes away.
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Joe,

I'll be on Rt 167, coming from Louisiana. T

OK, you'll be coming up from El Dorado.

Thanks. Saved as text file.

There'll probably be plenty of "orange men" (road construction
barrels) to guide you through Arkansas. :P

Daryl

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Joe,

From there down to Roswell, NM (to visit Daryl's relatives and
generally look for UFO's), on to San Antonio, TX, to LA then up to see JM>Daryl, up to see Ed in IN, then Mark in Frankfort, KY and home. (From JM>Ed's its a straight shot home).

If I have relatives in New Mexico, I guess it's the green character
Roswell from the Hoyle Board Games. <G> I also liked Harley The Bear,
and Marvin, the T-Rex.

I do hope I can go to the ham radio event in Albuquerque in
September...and I hope to find out soon.

staying at other places along the way or how soon they put my suitcases JM>outside their front door. :)

With a note asking "We want you to leave yesterday". <G>

Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-12-19 09:34 <=-

But if you were on a train, what good are those updates....? If you
were driving a vehicle, I understand better.... :)

If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm
at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.

Ah, ok... :)

Warned ahead of time... you'd be able to make other plans, then...

Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds
like a tagline in the making. <G>

Not pithy enough.... <G>

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.

Ah, ok... :)

Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the way,
I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the
depot to see me.

Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds like a tagline in the making. <G>

Not pithy enough.... <G>

OK, how about the one below...shameless pilfered from a fellow ham
radio operator??

Daryl

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Daryl wrote to Nancy --

Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the way,
I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the
depot to see me.

Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)
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Joe,

Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the way, JM>> I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the
depot to see me.

Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)

Boy, you're just full of good news. <G>

Daryl

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Hello JOE,

16 May 19 07:17 at you wrote to DARYL STOUT:

Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)

Or, keeping with amateur radio tradition, suddenly discover that the local AYCE buffet is having a special that day. ;)

Later,
Sean

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Sean,

Or remember some urgent business out of town. :)

Or, keeping with amateur radio tradition, suddenly discover that the local SD>AYCE buffet is having a special that day. ;)

Or like "The Ham Pager"...alerting hams to:

1) Broken Down Krispy Kreme Truck
2) Free Samples At Sam's Club
3) All You Can Eat Chinese Buffet (substitute your favorite cuisine)
4) Female On Repeater
5) 2 For 1 Burgers

Wonder if you can find these at the boneyard (flea market) at a
hamfest?? <G>

Daryl, WX4QZ

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Hello Daryl,

17 May 19 04:45 at you wrote to me:

Wonder if you can find these at the boneyard (flea market) at a hamfest?? <G>

I've seen pictures of mockups on the Web. :D

Later,
Sean

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 05-13-19 07:24 <=-

I better drop him another line and remind him.

Just got a cc of his reply to you... so now I have both your phone and
his numbers... ;)

I dropped him a note a few days ago but haven't heard anything from
him yet.

You probably have by now... I got it late Sunday, but I think Jim and I
are using the same ISP...

Where do you head after Rochester....?

Erie, Pa for a day or two, then on to Farmington Hills, MI (outside Detroit) for a day, then on to Denver.
From there down to Roswell, NM (to visit Daryl's relatives and
generally look for UFO's), on to San Antonio, TX, to LA then up to see Daryl, up to see Ed in IN, then Mark in Frankfort, KY and home. (From Ed's its a straight shot home).
Not to mention expected (and unexpected) side trips.

Sounds like a fun trip... :)

Just grist for your mill... It looks as though either the 22nd (Wed)
or the 27th (Memorial Day/Monday) work best for me

Ok.
I'm still not sure of the date yet. Depends on how much I enjoy
staying at other places along the way or how soon they put my
suitcases outside their front door. :)
I can give a more definite time and day once I hit Syracuse since Rochester is only about 90 minutes away.

I'll give you a call in the next couple of days... :)

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-15-19 09:38 <=-

If I'm "ham radio railroad mobile", I can let folks know where I'm
at...or for my edification, to know where I'm at.

Ah, ok... :)

Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the
way, I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to
the depot to see me.

That is a nice thing, too... :)

Weather, traffic, and construction...3 travel hazards. Hmmm...sounds
like a tagline in the making. <G>

Not pithy enough.... <G>

OK, how about the one below...shamelessly pilfered from a fellow ham
radio operator??

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before

I have that one already, I'm sure... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the
way, I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to the depot to see me.

That is a nice thing, too... :)

I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest
Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.

þ OLX 1.53 þ Dijon Vu: When you feel you've tasted this mustard
before

I have that one already, I'm sure... :)

It was new to me.

... Limburger smells like a cross between skunk juice and hangover breath.

And a few other things we don't like to talk about. :P

Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-20-19 10:53 <=-

Plus, if I'm going to have a layover in a certain city along the
way, I can alert local hams that I'm there, and they can come down to
the depot to see me.

That is a nice thing, too... :)

I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.

Was it someone you knew....?

þ OLX 1.53 þ Dijon Vu: When you feel you've tasted this mustard
before

I have that one already, I'm sure... :)

It was new to me.

There's lots of variants on the Deja Vu.... ;)

... Limburger smells like a cross between skunk juice and hangover
breath.

And a few other things we don't like to talk about. :P

Well, yeah... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.

Was it someone you knew....?

Sure was. His name is Elmer, and the ironic thing is, there is a term
in ham radio, known as "Elmer"...for an individual who teaches,
instructs, mentors, a fellow ham radio operator on how to do a certain
mode in the hobby. It can be soldering, kit building, net control,
traffic handling, administering exams, setting up a radio or computer
program for a certain mode, or any other number of things.

So, Elmer is an Elmer. <G>

However, with the Elmering, once shown what to do, the individual is
expected to be able to do the task at hand. The Elmer is NOT there to
coddle and help them constantly, every step of the way. It's the same as
"The unwritten rule of Sysoping" in setting up a BBS. Once shown how to
do a particular configuration, you're expected to do it. Otherwise, it's
the other Sysop's setup, and not yours.

I heard of one ungrateful Sysop a few years ago, who had another Sysop
set up his BBS for him, but then the Sysop, who did none of the work,
took credit for doing it, without giving it to where credit was due. The
Sysop who did the work got his revenge (a dish best served cold), in
working with another Sysop. Apparently, he had been counseled to "give
credit where credit was due" (as I'm a firm believer in such),
apparently his pride and his ego wouldn't let him do it.

So, while one Sysop was engaged in chat with this "thief Sysop", the
other Sysop found the guys IP address, went inside his system, and
basically wiped out his hard drive. As soon as the ungrateful Sysop
exited chat, his computer crashed big time.

... Deja stew - seriously old leftovers.

Well, there goes my appetite. :P

Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-23-19 07:23 <=-

I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest
Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.

Was it someone you knew....?

Sure was. His name is Elmer, and the ironic thing is, there is a
term in ham radio, known as "Elmer"...for an individual who teaches, instructs, mentors, a fellow ham radio operator on how to do a certain mode in the hobby. It can be soldering, kit building, net control,
traffic handling, administering exams, setting up a radio or computer program for a certain mode, or any other number of things.
So, Elmer is an Elmer. <G>

A name that works... ;) My Dad's last name was Elder, and he was an
Elder in our church... so he was Elder Elder... What's more, he had
two other (both younger than he) brothers who also were Elders in their churches, so he was the eldest Elder Elder.... :)

However, with the Elmering, once shown what to do, the individual is expected to be able to do the task at hand. The Elmer is NOT there to coddle and help them constantly, every step of the way.

Just to mentor, and get them started... :)

It's the same as "The unwritten rule of Sysoping" in setting up a BBS. Once shown how to do a particular configuration, you're expected to do
it. Otherwise, it's the other Sysop's setup, and not yours.
I heard of one ungrateful Sysop a few years ago, who had another
Sysop set up his BBS for him, but then the Sysop, who did none of the work, took credit for doing it, without giving it to where credit was
due. The Sysop who did the work got his revenge (a dish best served
cold), in working with another Sysop. Apparently, he had been counseled
to "give credit where credit was due" (as I'm a firm believer in such), apparently his pride and his ego wouldn't let him do it.
So, while one Sysop was engaged in chat with this "thief Sysop", the
other Sysop found the guys IP address, went inside his system, and basically wiped out his hard drive. As soon as the ungrateful Sysop
exited chat, his computer crashed big time.

Sounds like the mentor Sysop had left some back doors open to get back
into the computer itself.... Had the thief sysop done what he should
have, to secure his own system, the other couldn't have crashed him, I'd think....

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

A name that works... ;) My Dad's last name was Elder, and he was an NB>Elder in our church... so he was Elder Elder... What's more, he had
two other (both younger than he) brothers who also were Elders in their NB>churches, so he was the eldest Elder Elder.... :)

Years ago, at a local church, I was responsible for getting the coffee
and donuts for the Single Adult Sunday School Department, which had
their "Sunday School" between the 2 morning church services. The Singles Minister at the time kept saying "My Brother Darrell and the Other
Brother Daryl"...I had no idea what he was talking about.

Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show...

"I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl.
And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at the restaurant".

Another character (who looked like he had been on The Andy Griffith
Show years ago), asked "A Fire??"...and the reply was "No human
casualties. But, all of our major food groups were scorched"!!.

I thought "Oh, no!!".

But, one Sunday morning, I didn't make it there, as I was violently
vomiting. I heard that I was cussed out for not being there. Other
issues made me leave that church, but when I tried to return, they
showed me the door. Christians are the only army that buries their
wounded.

Just to mentor, and get them started... :)

Exactly. I think this old geezer finally got the hint, as I haven't
gotten any further emails from him.

Sounds like the mentor Sysop had left some back doors open to get back NB>into the computer itself.... Had the thief sysop done what he should NB>have, to secure his own system, the other couldn't have crashed him, I'd NB>think....

Exactly. I'm one who believes giving credit to where credit is due.
This "thief Sysop" was "too prideful" to admit that he had to have help,
and made it look like he did it.

Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-30-19 18:12 <=-

Years ago, at a local church, I was responsible for getting the
coffee and donuts for the Single Adult Sunday School Department, which
had their "Sunday School" between the 2 morning church services. The Singles Minister at the time kept saying "My Brother Darrell and the
Other Brother Daryl"...I had no idea what he was talking about.
Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show...
"I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl.
And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at
the restaurant".

Ah...so that's where that came from.... ;)

Another character (who looked like he had been on The Andy Griffith
Show years ago), asked "A Fire??"...and the reply was "No human casualties. But, all of our major food groups were scorched"!!.
I thought "Oh, no!!".

A groaner, to be sure....

But, one Sunday morning, I didn't make it there, as I was violently vomiting. I heard that I was cussed out for not being there. Other
issues made me leave that church, but when I tried to return, they
showed me the door. Christians are the only army that buries their wounded.

That church doesn't sound all that Christian to me.... just because
someone takes the name doesn't mean that they truly are.... and sadly
there are many "churches" like that.... I'm sorry you were burnt by
them....

Sounds like the mentor Sysop had left some back doors open to get
back into the computer itself.... Had the thief sysop done what he
should have, to secure his own system, the other couldn't have
crashed him, I'd think....

Exactly. I'm one who believes giving credit to where credit is due.
This "thief Sysop" was "too prideful" to admit that he had to have
help, and made it look like he did it.

I'm not sure that it totally justifies the mentor Sysop's actions,
though.... Sounds like a bad situation all around....

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show... "I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl. And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at
the restaurant".

Ah...so that's where that came from.... ;)

Yep. I don't know if it's on TV anymore, but you probably can see
reruns on YouTube.

Another character (who looked like he had been on The Andy Griffith Show years ago), asked "A Fire??"...and the reply was "No human casualties. But, all of our major food groups were scorched"!!.
I thought "Oh, no!!".

A groaner, to be sure....

It's as bad as the Fire Marshal noting "something hot came into
contact with something flammable, and that caused the fire in the church kitchen".

WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CLUE??!! <G>

That church doesn't sound all that Christian to me.... just because NB>someone takes the name doesn't mean that they truly are.... and sadly NB>there are many "churches" like that.... I'm sorry you were burnt by NB>them....

Well, with not resting well at night, and nevr knowing when an IBS
attack will flare, it's best I not go.

I'm not sure that it totally justifies the mentor Sysop's actions, NB>though.... Sounds like a bad situation all around....

It was. All that could've been avoided, if he hadn't been so prideful.
I'm one who will happily give credit to where credit is due.

... Good Intentions Paving Company - We did the road to Hell.

Really.

Daryl
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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 06-04-19 11:40 <=-

Then, one night, I stumbled on an episode of The Bob Newhart Show...
"I'm Larry. This is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Daryl.
And, we come bearing unfortunate news. We had a grease fire down at
the restaurant".

Ah...so that's where that came from.... ;)

Yep. I don't know if it's on TV anymore, but you probably can see
reruns on YouTube.

Were I to be viewing things on YouTube, which I don't do either...

It's as bad as the Fire Marshal noting "something hot came into
contact with something flammable, and that caused the fire in the
church kitchen".
WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CLUE??!! <G>

Well, yeah, that usually is the action that starts combustion... :)

I'm not sure that it totally justifies the mentor Sysop's actions,
though.... Sounds like a bad situation all around....

It was. All that could've been avoided, if he hadn't been so
prideful. I'm one who will happily give credit to where credit is due.

As well one should... :)

ttyl neb

... Absinthe Lite: a third fewer pathogens than regular absinthe.

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