• GPS (was: Newton)

    From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 2 06:43:44 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    Or the cartoon where the GPS says "turn left here", and you go off the side
    of the mountain if you do so. :P

    A few years ago I was going about my business when a semi made a turn off
    a two way main street onto a one way main street, going the wrong way.
    I stopped to help him out. He said he was going to (or trying to anyway) such-and-such a business.
    His GPS told him him to turn right not left. Never mind four lanes of
    traffic facing you, the various one way signs, etc.
    After stopping traffic I managed to get him turned around and on his way.
    Welcome back.
    Joe
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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Joe Mackey on Thu Jan 2 20:35:26 2020
    On 02 Jan 2020, JOE MACKEY said the following...

    His GPS told him him to turn right not left. Never mind four lanes of traffic facing you, the various one way signs, etc.
    After stopping traffic I managed to get him turned around and on his

    We have three railroad crossings here in town that split the downtown down
    the middle. Two of them are very steep and there is one that is accessible to everyone. Most GPS devices and apps direct everyone to one of the steep ones
    so even though there are signs everywhere at least one big rig gets stuck
    every week. Had a train tear through one of them last year. Driver barely
    made it out.

    I swear by Google Maps, however sometimes common sense has to take over. I'm pretty good at directions and I always try to look out for street signs as well. Normally it's a simple matter of me going where I need to go and the
    GPS will catch up and adjust with new directions.

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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Richard Miles on Fri Jan 3 07:03:26 2020
    Richard wrote --

    so even though there are signs everywhere at least one big rig gets stuck
    every week.

    The CSX mainline divides Huntington (WV) north and south.
    We have viaducts (underpasses) every so often for access and each has
    large signs reading X'x" in height, yet every so often some idiot with a 12' rig thinks they can use the 11' viaduct (or whatever the height is).
    Of course one can go around those but a out of the way trip.
    Joe
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Joe Mackey on Fri Jan 3 18:55:00 2020
    The CSX mainline divides Huntington (WV) north and south.
    We have viaducts (underpasses) every so often for access and each has
    large signs reading X'x" in height, yet every so often some idiot with a 12' rig thinks they can use the 11' viaduct (or whatever the height is).
    Of course one can go around those but a out of the way trip.

    There is a youtube channel dedicated to a truck-hungry viaduct or two.
    IIRC, one of them was deepened and, as you could probably guess, is
    tempting larger trucks to make the unwise trip underneath it.

    Mike


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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Mike Powell on Sat Jan 4 06:47:14 2020
    Mike wrote --

    There is a youtube channel dedicated to a truck-hungry viaduct or two.

    Those are funny.
    There are several car crash channels, mostly from Russia since they use
    dash cams more.
    And tying in with this are people who drive though water thinking its ok
    and get swept away, or stall in the middle of a "lake", etc.
    Our viaducts tend to flood with a heavy rain and people will still think
    they can drive through only to get stranded. And then some idiot right
    behind them, who sees this, tries it...
    The stupid things people do. :)
    Joe




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Fri Jan 3 00:41:00 2020
    Joe,


    A few years ago I was going about my business when a semi made a turn off
    a two way main street onto a one way main street, going the wrong way.

    The sign may have said "One Way", but he WAS going ONE WAY. <G>

    After stopping traffic I managed to get him turned around and on his way.

    Boy, Rank has its privileges. <G>

    Welcome back.

    Thanks. Now, that Comedy Relief is back, all is well in the echo. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Richard Miles on Fri Jan 3 00:55:00 2020
    We have three railroad crossings here in town that split the downtown down RM>the middle. Two of them are very steep and there is one that is accessible t RM>everyone. Most GPS devices and apps direct everyone to one of the steep ones RM>so even though there are signs everywhere at least one big rig gets stuck RM>every week. Had a train tear through one of them last year. Driver barely RM>made it out.

    Originally in Pine Bluff (about 45 miles southeast of Little Rock), 2
    rail lines, the Missouri Pacific and the Southern Pacific (Cotton Belt)
    were a block apart. Years ago, they moved the tracks to be next to each
    other, with an interlocking crossover near the former Union Station.
    One line runs from northeast Arkansas, and the other from southeast
    Arkansas. Just west of the city, the White Bluff subdivision heads up
    toward Little Rock, and for a time, uses the former Rock Island
    trackage (hard to believe it went out of business 40 years ago this
    spring). The former Cotton Belt line heads toward southwest Arkansas,
    and crosses the former Missouri Pacific at Texarkana. Both lines are now
    owned by Union Pacific.

    The thing is, you can preach safety at railroad crossings, or for
    weather situations until you're blue in the face...and some people just
    have to learn the hard way.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Sun Jan 5 22:10:00 2020
    Joe,

    The CSX mainline divides Huntington (WV) north and south.

    Too bad The Cardinal doesn't serve the area more often.

    We have viaducts (underpasses) every so often for access and each has
    large signs reading X'x" in height, yet every so often some idiot with a 12' JM>rig thinks they can use the 11' viaduct (or whatever the height is).

    He must have used Common Core Math. :P

    Of course one can go around those but a out of the way trip.

    I went to Hot Springs last night for a square dance. The trip was
    nice, since they 4 laned Highway 70, with a center turn lane...and added
    a bypass around the city.

    Of course, doofus me missed the exit, so I ended up going through
    town. So, after pulling into a Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell (I
    originally was going to get lunch there, as I didn't eat before leaving
    Little Rock), I called up the MAPS program on my smartphone, and it gave
    me perfect directions to the site...even speaking where to turn...I was impressed!! And, this is from a guy who years ago, had to have blind ham
    radio operators direct him out of a hamfest parking lot, or a hospital
    parking deck. <G>

    But, in going through town to the dance site, I spotted a Colton's Restaurant, and resolved I'd circle back to have lunch there before the
    square dance (I had to be there beforehand for an officers meeting).
    There used to be one in Little Rock, but the franchisee didn't pay the
    sales taxes...and both the city and state went in, and shut them down.

    Their soft buttery dinner rolls are to die for!!

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Mike Powell on Sun Jan 5 22:11:00 2020
    Mike,

    There is a youtube channel dedicated to a truck-hungry viaduct or two. MP>IIRC, one of them was deepened and, as you could probably guess, is MP>tempting larger trucks to make the unwise trip underneath it.

    One time, where a trucker got his rig lodged under the viaduct, the
    cop asked him "truck too tall??", and the driver said "No, I was hauling
    a bridge, and ran out of gas". <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Sun Jan 5 22:14:00 2020
    Joe,

    And tying in with this are people who drive though water thinking its ok
    and get swept away, or stall in the middle of a "lake", etc.
    Our viaducts tend to flood with a heavy rain and people will still think
    they can drive through only to get stranded. And then some idiot right JM>behind them, who sees this, tries it...
    The stupid things people do. :)

    No kidding.

    One woman in Fort Smith drowned in a flash flood, and when she
    panicked, calling 911, the operator chewed her out for ignoring the
    warning signs. It was the 911 operators last day on the job (she was
    retiring after the shift), and I say the 911 operator was right.

    Indeed, the weather warnings have NUMEROUS safety rules in them,
    depending on the weather event described...especially for a TORNADO
    EMERGENCY or a FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY.

    Nowadays, there's no excuse to NOT be informed of the weather. You can
    get apps on your smartphone, or a portable NOAA Weather Radio. Ignorance
    of the forecast and safety rules are done at ones own peril.

    Daryl


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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jan 6 07:14:22 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    After stopping traffic I managed to get him turned around and on his
    way.

    Boy, Rank has its privileges. <G>

    Yep. :)
    I just waited for the traffic to thin out (a red light a couple of blocks
    up the street) then then had him turn his rig around. With it in the street and my standing in the middle of the street the traffic had no choice but to wait.
    Oh the power. The power! :)
    Joe

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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jan 6 07:39:44 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    I called up the MAPS program on my smartphone, and it gave
    me perfect directions to the site

    The friend I was visiting in NYC gave me excellent directions to her
    place. NYC is actually very easy to drive around, for me, since the streets and
    avenues are all generally numbered. The higher one goes up in Manhattan the higher the avenue numbers, etc
    I hate driving in a strange town where the streets are named after trees, fruits, people, or whatever in no particular order.
    Joe
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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jan 6 07:44:02 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    One woman in Fort Smith drowned in a flash flood, and when she
    panicked, calling 911, the operator chewed her out for ignoring the
    warning signs. It was the 911 operators last day on the job (she was
    retiring after the shift), and I say the 911 operator was right.

    Concur.
    Reminds me of a time in parking I was joking with a co-worker about
    putting a large shark fin on top of my cart visible just over the tops of parked
    cars with speaker playing the theme from Jaws I drove through lots.
    He asked what day would I do that?
    I said on my last day at work.
    What day is that?
    Whatever day I do that.
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Mon Jan 6 13:07:00 2020
    Joe,

    I just waited for the traffic to thin out (a red light a couple of blocks
    up the street) then then had him turn his rig around. With it in the street JM>and my standing in the middle of the street the traffic had no choice but to JM>wait.

    Size does matter. <G>

    Oh the power. The power! :)

    Careful, Joe...we don't want you getting a bigger head than you have
    already. <g,d,r>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Mon Jan 6 13:09:00 2020
    Joe,

    I hate driving in a strange town where the streets are named after trees,
    fruits, people, or whatever in no particular order.

    Really. Some of the names are really bizarre...I wonder what they were smoking when they named the streets??

    In Miami, the streets are numbered in direction from the intersection
    of Miami Avenue and Flagler Street, in downtown. Depending on the
    compass point from there, it's like Northwest 10th Street, Northeast 2nd Avenue, Southwest 8th Street (calle ocho for Little Havana, where "se
    habla espa¤ol is the rule), or Southeast 21st Street. The satellite
    community of Hialeah, to the northwest of Miami, uses West and East for
    their streets, divided by Hialeah Drive and Palm Avenue. But, the
    numbers don't match up exactly when converting the Hialeah Street
    numbers to Miami Street numbers.

    Miami (its nickname is "The Magic City") owes its existence to the
    railroad, particularly The Florida East Coast Railroad (FEC), created by
    the late Henry Morrison Flagler. The line originally went from
    Jacksonville to Palm Beach, but after freezes hit much of Florida one
    winter, he thought it wasn't worth going further south. Yet, in Miami,
    Julia Tuttle (called "The Mother Of Miami") sent Flagler orange
    blossoms, showing him that the freeze had stayed north of there. So,
    Flagler extended the line to Miami.

    Later, he'd extend that to Key West, but the line south of Florida
    City was wiped out by the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935. Much of the old
    right of way became US Highway 1, the only road from the mainland to the
    Keys. Now, north of Miami, the main line turns west, and ends at an area
    just west of Hialeah. It has a connecting track (or did at one time) to
    a point on the southwest side of Miami International Airport to the CSX Homestead Extension. That track literally ends in some folks front
    yards, according to Google Earth.

    Brightline (Virgin Railways) runs passenger service right now from
    Miami to Palm Beach, and there are plans to eventually build an
    extension to Orlando International Airport...and maybe to Tampa and Jacksonville. The last time the FEC ran passenger service was in 1967.
    One private varnish car, the Azalea, was preserved, but it requires a
    power car when operating. The station used by Brightline is close to the original FEC Station. A connecting track at the "control point" named
    "Iris", allows Tri-Rail Commuter Trains to operate from the FEC Depot
    near downtown Miami, to the north end of that line just north of West
    Palm Beach.

    The original Seaboard Coast Line (SCL) depot (formed with the merger
    of the Seaboard Airline (SAL) Railroad and the Atlantic Coastline (ACL) Railroad) was at Northwest 22nd Street, and Northwest 7th Avenue. Amtrak
    built the current station at 8303 Northwest 37th Avenue in 1978, and the original depot was razed shortly thereafter. Like Tampa Union Station,
    and the original St. Louis Union Station, Miami is a "stub end
    terminal", meaning that unless there's a circle track or a Y track,
    where the train can turn around, or back into the station, the train
    enters the depot engine first.

    Tri-Rail operates on the same track Amtrak uses from West Palm Beach southward...with its southern terminus at a point about a mile
    east-northeast of Miami International Airport. You can ride a monorail
    direct to the airport from the depot.

    Unfortunately, like San Francisco and other areas, Miami has a large
    homeless population, and the crap (literally) that goes along with it,
    in the downtown areas.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Mon Jan 6 12:49:00 2020
    Joe,

    One woman in Fort Smith drowned in a flash flood, and when she
    panicked, calling 911, the operator chewed her out for ignoring the
    warning signs. It was the 911 operators last day on the job (she was
    retiring after the shift), and I say the 911 operator was right.

    Concur.

    Duct tape doesn't fix stupidity, but it helps mask the noise.

    Reminds me of a time in parking I was joking with a co-worker about
    putting a large shark fin on top of my cart visible just over the tops of JM>parked
    cars with speaker playing the theme from Jaws I drove through lots.
    He asked what day would I do that?
    I said on my last day at work.
    What day is that?
    Whatever day I do that.

    LOL. Never mind playing the late Johnny Paycheck's song "Take This
    Job, And Shove It!!" <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jan 7 07:37:20 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    Oh the power. The power! :)

    Careful, Joe...we don't want you getting a bigger head than you have already. <g,d,r>

    Well, truth is truth... :)
    Joe


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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jan 7 07:51:32 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    Really. Some of the names are really bizarre...I wonder what they were
    smoking when they named the streets??

    There's a suburban community here, built c. 1970, with story book names:
    Snow White Road, Sleepy Street, Dopey Drive, etc. Along with Robin Hood
    Lane, Maid Marion St., etc.
    (I never knew it was there until I temped with a moving company here in
    the early '90s. Its nearly a huge gated area).

    In Miami, the streets are numbered

    Huntington was laid out in a grid when founded in 1871 by Collis P. Huntington, of Gold Rush and railroad fame. Avenues were east to west and wide and numbered from the Ohio River southward, with the river being "First Ave". then 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.
    Streets run N-S and in order, lower number to higher with 1st St the
    dividing line, so you have 5th St East and a 5th St West.
    The avenues in the west end are named after presidents: Washington,
    Adams, Jefferson, etc.
    Outside the main downtown area the streets twist and wind and generally follow old cow paths. That's where it gets dodgy with directions, names,
    etc.

    The satellite community of Hialeah,

    A friend of mine, who recently celebrated his 59th anniversary, has a daughter named Leah. He use to joke it was like going to the race track when he would to her "Hi Leah".

    Unfortunately, like San Francisco and other areas, Miami has a large homeless population

    Hey, if I were homeless I would head some place warm all the time. :)
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Wed Jan 8 18:30:00 2020
    Joe,

    Oh the power. The power! :)

    Careful, Joe...we don't want you getting a bigger head than you have JM>> already. <g,d,r>

    Well, truth is truth... :)

    "My fellow echo participants. I want to make this perfectly clear. I
    am not a crook". <BG>

    BBS's as we know them didn't even exist when Nixon was around. I think
    they came about in the late 1970's.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Wed Jan 8 18:36:00 2020
    Joe,

    There's a suburban community here, built c. 1970, with story book names:
    Snow White Road, Sleepy Street, Dopey Drive, etc. Along with Robin Hood JM>Lane, Maid Marion St., etc.
    (I never knew it was there until I temped with a moving company here in
    the early '90s. Its nearly a huge gated area).

    Why am I thinking of the 5 weasels in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"?? :P

    Outside the main downtown area the streets twist and wind and generally
    follow old cow paths. That's where it gets dodgy with directions, names, JM>etc.

    At least they cleaned up the street deposits. :P

    A friend of mine, who recently celebrated his 59th anniversary, has a
    daughter named Leah. He use to joke it was like going to the race track whe JM>he would to her "Hi Leah".

    That was a great place...originally built nearly 100 years ago. They
    had "The Flamingo Stakes" there...but they quit racing there nearly 50
    years ago, due to 2 nearby race tracks (Gulfstream and Calder). They
    also have Jai-Alai down there.

    Hey, if I were homeless I would head some place warm all the time. :)

    True...but the street as the sandbox is a bit much.

    Daryl


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  • From Joe Mackey@1:123/140 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 9 06:41:46 2020
    Daryl wrote --

    he would to her "Hi Leah".

    That was a great place

    I've never been to a horse track.
    Some years ago a friend came to town and we went to the dog track.
    Neither of us had ever been there before. Phyllis would watch as the
    dogs were trotted out and say "Number six will win". And it did.
    This went on for five or six races. Each time she picked a winner.
    With the last race I told her I wasn't a betting man but we could share a
    $2 bet.
    We won something like 50 cents.
    I figured I would quit while I was ahead.
    I can say in all honestly I have won every bet at the races. :)
    Joe




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Joe Mackey on Thu Jan 9 16:03:00 2020
    Joe,

    I've never been to a horse track.

    I knew of Hialeah Park, only because my high school graduation class
    went their for class pictures. Arkansas has Oaklawn Park in Hot Springs,
    and their 2020 season starts soon.

    Some years ago a friend came to town and we went to the dog track.

    They also have greyhound racing in south Florida...and have it over in
    West Memphis, Arkansas.

    Neither of us had ever been there before. Phyllis would watch as the
    dogs were trotted out and say "Number six will win". And it did.

    Her alter ego wasn't "Claire Voyeant", was it?? <G>

    This went on for five or six races. Each time she picked a winner.
    With the last race I told her I wasn't a betting man but we could share a
    $2 bet.
    We won something like 50 cents.
    I figured I would quit while I was ahead.
    I can say in all honestly I have won every bet at the races. :)

    True.

    I haven't played the Arkansas Lottery in several months. But, when I
    played it, I played only once a month, just buying scratch off tickets,
    and spending no more than $5, win or lose.

    So many who "hit it big" pay a big price in so many ways, afterwards.
    Never mind those who can least afford it, spend everything they have on tickets.

    Daryl


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