Hey everyone,

I came online in 1997 and was part of the AOL generation. I never heard about BBSes until I was older and of course, BBSes were not popular by that time. Before 1997 I do remember my older brother owning an Altair... something. I want to say a Altair ST.. something. It was gray and had system buttons cut
at an angle above the keyboard.. I never used it much and I don't remember my brother using it all that much either. I believe he only played a submarine game or something.

I have been watching the BBS Documentary series that was put out in 2005 and
it made me want to use a BBS. It feels like I'm getting in touch with my culture in the same way a youngster today might study history and learn traditional music/food/dance of yesteryear's to better understand and appreciate the culture.

Anyway...

Quick question for you guys/gals, I'm looking for BBS user documentation/tutorials made for day to day BBS users not BBS sysops. I am looking through textfiles.com at the moment. Textfiles.com has a section on
BBS that looks promising. Is there any other resources I might look at to
learn how to be an efficient BBS user?

Thanks,
-Zoo

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Hello Zoohouse!

** 18.10.19 - 12:30, Zoohouse wrote to All:

Quick question for you guys/gals, I'm looking for BBS user
documentation/tutorials made for day to day BBS users not BBS sysops. I am
looking through textfiles.com at the moment. Textfiles.com has a section on
BBS that looks promising. Is there any other resources I might look at to
learn how to be an efficient BBS user?

Textfiles.com is a pretty good resource. It is nicely designed and loaded with historical information. Each section has a well written introduction
to explain the content that follows. But I have found that the content can seem pretty scattered. And much of it may not be of interest or relevance for today's BBS users.

You would probably become "efficient" with time as you simply explore the BBSes out there. Each BBS would be different. You may settle with
specific ones that appeal to your sense of design and ease of use.

I would recommend https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/ as a starting point to explore the many advertised BBSes. You can list BBSes with specific criteria: Software, location, etc. After visiting some of them, you may prefer the BBSes that operate with specific software: Sychronet (which appears to be the most in use), BBBS, etc.

Just dive in and explore!


../|ug

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Zoo wrote --

I came online in 1997 and was part of the AOL generation.

I got my first computer, a Commodore 64 (aka Commie, Comode, etc) in
1985. Got my first modem about a year later, a 300 baud.
At the time everything was "live" and since I can read/write only so
fast, 300 was fine by me.
Around 1988/90, I learned about local BBS' and found Fido about that
time. A new world opened up. No longer chatting with people just across town now it was around the world.
I found Memories in the early '90s and been here since.
I moved up from a 300 to a 1200 and finally 56k.
I replaced the old Commie in the early '90s with a "real" pc, a used IBM
286 running on DOS. I never had a problems learning DOS since the Commie system was similar.
Around 1996 I got a good deal (free) on a used computer that had been damaged. The innards were good, but the case was rather rough. That one had Win95.
From there it was always onward and upward from 56k to cable to wifi.
From a 64 to Win10S.

I never heard about BBSes until I was older and of course, BBSes were not

popular by that time.

With the introduction of Win 95 BBS' dropped off, replaced by the WWW.
I know at one time there were newsgroups with some ISP's but don't know
if they are still around or not. Been a long time since I last accessed one. (A newsgroup was like a vast BBS and the newsgroups were like the boards,
like this one).
Also in the late '80s/early '90s I found GEnie. That was all text based
as well, but a wider variety. It was similar to CompuServe which later
morphed in a way into AOL.

We one had over a dozen BBS' here but they starting falling by the
wayside around 2000. Now there are none locally.
Daryl Stout, a regular here, has one and fill you in more on that.
Nancy is our resident Luddite, still using DOS. :)
I use Doc's Place out of Florida.
When I joined this group there would be literally 100s of messages a
day, right Nancy?
Many people today have no idea what a BBS is/was, etc. Not their fault,
it was just fading out or gone when they started.

Before 1997 I do remember my older brother owning an Altair...

I recall the name but never knew much about them.

it made me want to use a BBS. It feels like I'm getting in touch with my culture in the same way a youngster today might study history and learn traditional music/food/dance of yesteryear's to better understand and appreciate the culture.

You young whippersnapper,,, LOL

Quick question for you guys/gals, I'm looking for BBS user documentation/tutorials made for day to day BBS users not BBS sysops.

Nancy and Daryl would be able to help there.
Ed Vance, who pops in from time to time, could be a good resource as
well. He still has a C64 and a big help with lost 64 files on some 5" floppies I had.

Is there any other resources I might look at to learn how to be an efficient

BBS user?

Keep the conversations going. Write, reply, etc.
Everyone has memories, be they five years or 75 years.
The only off topic subjects here are modern religion/politics.
(If one wants to discuss the merits of being a Whig vs a Tory, that's ok,
Or Who's Better-- Odin or Zeus? that would be acceptable, I guess.)
We also keep it clean here.
I'll post the rules for the echo in a day or so.
Joe
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Hello JOE, and ZOOHOUSE!

** 19.10.19 - 06:31, JOE MACKEY wrote to ZOOHOUSE:

I found Memories in the early '90s and been here since.

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With the introduction of Win 95 BBS' dropped off, replaced by the WWW.
I know at one time there were newsgroups with some ISP's but don't know
if they are still around or not. Been a long time since I last accessed
one. (A newsgroup was like a vast BBS and the newsgroups were like the
boards, like this one).

Today, Fidonet (and most of its echos) can be accessible via the newsgroup feature in most email programs. No additional software required. No
special manual steps to log into a BBS and utilize a separate set of
programs to process "offline" packets. This can be very convenient.

I believe the fido<->newsgroup capabilty surfaced around 2003.

For a list of the systems that provide newsgroup-style feeds (network news transport protocol = nntp) see the Fidonet newsletter.

We one had over a dozen BBS' here but they starting falling by the
wayside around 2000. Now there are none locally.

Take a look at https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/ for a pretty good listing
of BBSes accepting "calls" over the internet. It's really quite an impressive list of systems all over the world using a variety of different BBS software. You can visit a BBS and basically have the same experience
as if dialing up a BBS just like in the old days.

Many people today have no idea what a BBS is/was, etc. Not their
fault, it was just fading out or gone when they started.

So true. The glitz and immediacy that most www-based sites or apps
provide are quite unlike how a typical BBS operates or looks like.

BBSing is a special subculture and is kind of like a black art these days.
I fear much of the "youth" are likely to ignore it and pass it by.



../|ug

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Aug wrote --

Today, Fidonet (and most of its echos) can be accessible via the newsgroup

feature in most email programs.

I used to access them via Thunderbird (my e-mail program of choice) when
I was on Adelphia, starting in '01 when I began using broadband.
When Comcast took over accessing newsgroups disappeared.
I tried using other programs but had all sorts of problems.
By then my reading was down to only a couple of groups, I had Fido access locally, etc.
I later learned about Doc's Place somewhere (I think the last local BBS
mod) when they shut down. He also had a pc hospital I visited often. (Now unless something really goes bad, I can do first aid and minor operations on
my own. One of his people opene
I bounced around here and there with other boards but always came back to Doc's since at the time I could download with Blue Wave. Then Windows
updated and BW as incompatible. Now I just access online and live, like the olden days of BBS'. :)

Take a look at https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/

Thanks. I'll check that out when I have more time.

BBSing is a special subculture and is kind of like a black art these days. I fear much of the "youth" are likely to ignore it and pass it by.

Kids today seem to want bright lights, whiz bang graphic's, videos, etc. Lots and lots of eye candy. Oh there are a few that like the old way but
less every year.
Joe
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Hello JOE!

** 19.10.19 - 06:31, JOE MACKEY wrote to ZOOHOUSE:

Nancy is our resident Luddite, still using DOS. :)

According what I found in the 'net:

What does it mean to be called a Luddite?

1. A Luddite is a person who dislikes technology, especially technological devices that threaten existing jobs or interfere with personal privacy.

2. A Luddite is someone who is incompetent when using new technology. The word Luddite has an interesting origin in pop culture of the early 1800's.

Is Luddite an insult?

Today, it's an insult to call someone a Luddite. But that's not fair to
the original Luddites - cloth workers who launched a war against the
machines that were taking their jobs.


../|ug

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Quoting Zoohouse to All on 10-18-19 12:34 <=-

Quick question for you guys/gals, I'm looking for BBS user documentation/tutorials made for day to day BBS users not BBS sysops.
I am looking through textfiles.com at the moment. Textfiles.com has a section on BBS that looks promising. Is there any other resources I
might look at to learn how to be an efficient BBS user?

Ask the ones still using the system...? <G> I've been pretty
continuous since starting in the late 90's, never been a sysop, only a
user... but quite like the BBS scene... :) The thing that made the most difference for me was finding the Bluewave Offline Reader, so that I
could read and reply offline.... Back in the day, I was on primarily for Genealogy, and the Fido GENEALOGY echo was humongous! Some bbses, there
was barely enough time given to just get the message packet download,
not nearly enough time to actually read things online, except maybe just
the ones to you personally... But even today, utilizing offline reading
and replying makes things much more efficient... :)

Some tips... get to know the bbs sysop and cultivate a good relationship there... be pleasant in the different echoes.... Use more than one bbs,
so that you can tell if your messages are actually getting out... and
stick around... :)

If you have specific questions, ask away... :)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Zoohouse on 10-19-19 06:31 <=-

We one had over a dozen BBS' here but they starting falling by the
wayside around 2000. Now there are none locally.

Yup, same thing happened in Rochester... at least there are still some
that one can telnet to, all around the US and beyond.... :)

Daryl Stout, a regular here, has one and fill you in more on that.
Nancy is our resident Luddite, still using DOS. :)
I use Doc's Place out of Florida.
When I joined this group there would be literally 100s of messages
a day, right Nancy?

Doc's Place is one of the ones I use now.... and the one I tend to post
in Memories from.... And yes, once upon a time, there were 100s of
messages a day here in memories, and in a number of other popular
echos... Genealogy had 500+ daily at one point... now it is totally
gone... At least we still have Memories going... :)

Quick question for you guys/gals, I'm looking for BBS user documentation/tutorials made for day to day BBS users not BBS sysops.

Nancy and Daryl would be able to help there.

I never did keep any tutorials or anything like that, just learned a lot
by doing... and by having good sysops give me good tips along the way...
the late Mike Roberts was a great sysop that way... got me using Zmodem
and Bluewave....

Is there any other resources I might look at to learn how to be an efficient BBS user?

Keep the conversations going. Write, reply, etc.
Everyone has memories, be they five years or 75 years.

Good points... :) And we can always use new people joining us and
getting active here... :)

The only off topic subjects here are modern religion/politics.
(If one wants to discuss the merits of being a Whig vs a Tory,
that's ok, Or Who's Better-- Odin or Zeus? that would be acceptable, I guess.) We also keep it clean here.

As long as people don't get all worked up discussing such, anyway... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

I never did keep any tutorials or anything like that, just learned a lot by

doing... and by having good sysops give me good tips along the way...

Same here.
I have never run a BBS or anything like that have no idea how it works.
I gave a very vague idea, such as how phone calls are more but not the technical part just how it works. I just know when I dial a number the other persons phone rings.
Or I load my browser/e-mail and use it, but not all the things that
happen between here and there.
Or how electricity gets to my apartment. When I flip on a light they
came on, not how it got from the plant to my place.
I really liked Bluewave in the days of dial up (along with DOS and early Windows) when being charged "time and mileage". I could read off line and later post. With broadband so much is done live now.
Joe
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Quoting August Abolins to Joe Mackey on 10-23-19 20:24 <=-

Nancy is our resident Luddite, still using DOS. :)

According what I found in the 'net:

The 'net isn't always right, or at least, not always complete... ;)

What does it mean to be called a Luddite?
1. A Luddite is a person who dislikes technology, especially
technological devices that threaten existing jobs or interfere with personal privacy.

I don't exactly dislike technology, just don't see any reason to embrace
it totally and whole-heartedly... Technology is a useful tool, but
doesn't need to be used for everything.... :)

2. A Luddite is someone who is incompetent when using new technology.
The word Luddite has an interesting origin in pop culture of the
early 1800's.
Is Luddite an insult?
Today, it's an insult to call someone a Luddite. But that's not fair
to the original Luddites - cloth workers who launched a war against
the machines that were taking their jobs.

If one is using it in the second sense, I suppose it could be considered
an insult....

But it isn't really an insult when someone takes it for themselves...
I'll readily agree that I have Luddite propensities... I don't take
quickly to new technology, and see no need to invest myself in
technology just for the sake of technology....

I have no interest in today's various social media like Twitter,
Facebook, Instagram, etc, etc... I'm happy using older social media
such as BBSing.... :) I have no interest in getting a smartphone, but
do use a cell phone to be able to connect as needed when away from
home... I don't need the latest and greatest in computers or operating systems, and I don't do well with the various pointing devices needed
for graphic interfaces.... but I'm happily using my '95 Pentium (with a
slot for 5 1/4" floppies, a slot for 3 1/2" floppies, a Zipdrive, and a
CD-Rom drive) with DOS, text browser (Lynx), a text editor (MicroEMACS),
an offline reader (Bluewave), and various other programs and
utilities... So, in some respects, I'm happily a Luddite, but in others
I'm sufficiently technically advanced... :)

And I know that Joe wasn't using it as an insult, just as a statement of fact... ;)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 10-30-19 06:28 <=-

I never did keep any tutorials or anything like that, just learned a lot
by doing... and by having good sysops give me good tips along the way...

Same here.
I have never run a BBS or anything like that have no idea how it
works. I gave a very vague idea, such as how phone calls are more but
not the technical part just how it works. I just know when I dial a number the other persons phone rings.
Or I load my browser/e-mail and use it, but not all the things that
happen between here and there.
Or how electricity gets to my apartment. When I flip on a light
they came on, not how it got from the plant to my place.

Yup, mostly know how to use things in a basic way... not all the
information of how things work behind the scenes..... but that's all we
really need to know.... ;)

I really liked Bluewave in the days of dial up (along with DOS and
early Windows) when being charged "time and mileage". I could read off line and later post. With broadband so much is done live now.

Except for us holdouts (Luddites, even, if you wish [g]) that still
download bbs messages and even our email... Of course, as that also
includes Richard who is a Wizard, maybe Luddite doesn't really apply
here... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

Except for us holdouts (Luddites, even, if you wish [g]) that still
download bbs messages and even our email... Of course, as that also
includes Richard who is a Wizard, maybe Luddite doesn't really apply
here... ;)

Maybe more of a mixed marriage? :)
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 11-04-19 07:13 <=-

Except for us holdouts (Luddites, even, if you wish [g]) that still
download bbs messages and even our email... Of course, as that also
includes Richard who is a Wizard, maybe Luddite doesn't really apply
here... ;)

Maybe more of a mixed marriage? :)

No.... In some ways, he can be as much of a Luddite (in the good senses
of the word) or more, than I am.... He does do some stuff online, but
prefers to do most of it offline... As I said, he refuses to have a
cell phone... and though he is quite a Wizard with computer stuff, he
uses DOS and Linux mostly... he has a Windows machine as well, for the
times that one has to use that, for certain websites... but he always
downloads his email to read and answer offline, rather than do it
online... finds it much safer that way.... And he also uses a text
browser wherever possible on the web.... :)

ttyl neb

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No.... In some ways, he can be as much of a Luddite (in the good senses
of the word) or more, than I am.... He does do some stuff online, but
prefers to do most of it offline... As I said, he refuses to have a
cell phone... and though he is quite a Wizard with computer stuff, he
uses DOS and Linux mostly... he has a Windows machine as well, for the
times that one has to use that, for certain websites... but he always downloads his email to read and answer offline, rather than do it
online... finds it much safer that way.... And he also uses a text
browser wherever possible on the web.... :)

That sounds like me, except I do have a cell phone. I am considering going back to the older style flip phone should my current (not so) smart phone
ever stops working. I have had it over 5 years now, so it is more durable
than I would have assumed when I got it.

Mike


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Nancy wrote --

And he also uses a text browser wherever possible on the web.... :)

I didn't know they were still around.
I recall when Windows something, a very early one, long before 95, came
out and people on the net were complaining about how now the great unwashed were invading their domain since the users didn't need to know DOS, etc.
That the simple minded only needed
I was still using DOS then.
Joe
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Quoting Mike Powell to Nancy Backus on 11-10-19 09:27 <=-

No.... In some ways, he can be as much of a Luddite (in the good senses
of the word) or more, than I am.... He does do some stuff online, but prefers to do most of it offline... As I said, he refuses to have a
cell phone... and though he is quite a Wizard with computer stuff, he
uses DOS and Linux mostly... he has a Windows machine as well, for the
times that one has to use that, for certain websites... but he always downloads his email to read and answer offline, rather than do it
online... finds it much safer that way.... And he also uses a text
browser wherever possible on the web.... :)

That sounds like me, except I do have a cell phone. I am considering going back to the older style flip phone should my current (not so)
smart phone ever stops working. I have had it over 5 years now, so it
is more durable than I would have assumed when I got it.

I have a cell phone, a Samsung with TracFone service... dunno what model
it is any more, but it's pretty simple and small... about 1/2" x 2" x
4 1/2", the screen 1 1/2 by 1 3/4 or so... :) But it's a workhorse,
too... I've have had it going on 5 years myself, still works fine... :)
I got it primarily for emergencies, and for when I'm traveling... He
figures one cell phone in the family is plenty... :)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 11-11-19 08:19 <=-

And he also uses a text browser wherever possible on the web.... :)

I didn't know they were still around.

Oh, yes.... and that's what I'm still using as well... :)

I recall when Windows something, a very early one, long before 95,
came out and people on the net were complaining about how now the great unwashed were invading their domain since the users didn't need to know DOS, etc. That the simple minded only needed

(to point and click....?)

I was still using DOS then.

And I still am now.... <G> I find that point and click stuff more
taxing than using command line... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

unwashed were invading their domain since the users didn't need to know

DOS, etc. That the simple minded only needed

(to point and click....?)

You're getting good at reading my cut offs. :)
I am reminded of Mantan Moreland, a black comic in the '40s.
He had various partners over the years and had an act where one would
start to say something with the other finishing the sentence.
I was talking to...
Is he still around?
And he was going out with...
Are they still together?

This would go on for some time. Hilarious.

I was still using DOS then.

And I still am now.... <G> I find that point and click stuff more
taxing than using command line... :)

I'm just one of the great unwashed masses now, since I like point and
click. :)
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 11-21-19 06:59 <=-

unwashed were invading their domain since the users didn't need to
know DOS, etc. That the simple minded only needed

(to point and click....?)

You're getting good at reading my cut offs. :)

Some of them are more obvious than others... :)

I was still using DOS then.

And I still am now.... <G> I find that point and click stuff more
taxing than using command line... :)

I'm just one of the great unwashed masses now, since I like point
and click. :)

Guess so... but most of those earlier complainers probably have joined
the point and click masses themselves, now... ;)

ttyl neb

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Hello NANCY!

** 27.11.19 - 21:34, NANCY BACKUS wrote to JOE MACKEY:

And I still am now.... <G> I find that point and click stuff more
taxing than using command line... :)

I'm just one of the great unwashed masses now, since I like point
and click. :)

Guess so... but most of those earlier complainers probably have joined
the point and click masses themselves, now... ;)

Using the keyboard isn't that much different from "point-n-click". We
have to point to specific keys, and then click. LOL.

And.. the arrow keys are yet another way to "point" and go where we need
to be.




../|ug

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Quoting August Abolins to Nancy Backus on 11-28-19 00:42 <=-

** 27.11.19 - 21:34, NANCY BACKUS wrote to JOE MACKEY:

And I still am now.... <G> I find that point and click stuff more
taxing than using command line... :)

I'm just one of the great unwashed masses now, since I like point
and click. :)

Guess so... but most of those earlier complainers probably have joined
the point and click masses themselves, now... ;)

Using the keyboard isn't that much different from "point-n-click". We have to point to specific keys, and then click. LOL.
And.. the arrow keys are yet another way to "point" and go where we
need to be.

Both of those I have no problem at all with... in fact, as long as those
work on a particular screen, I'm ok with Windows... along with, most of
the time, using a touch screen....

It's just that pointing devices that move an arrow on the screen (that
might turn into a hand) don't work well for me... that arrow tends to
not stay where I think it should be... unlike the keyboard or arrow keys
that are always exactly where I expect them to be... :)

ttyl neb

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