• Silly Question

    From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to All on Sun Jan 24 07:50:12 2021
    I'm really new at Linux, But I'm really enjoying the learning curve so far
    for all of its frustrations.

    So I'm actually operating on a mobile phone. I've installed Ubuntu 20.4 in Termux. With the phoneps architecture, more or less it's similar to using a Raspberry Pi.

    My silly question is when doing any apt type commands, it's always shows me that 1 program is partially installed or not removed.

    How dobI figure out what that program is so i can get that cleared up?

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  • From Rick Smith@1:105/10.1 to Charles Pierson on Sun Jan 24 08:08:54 2021
    Greetings Charles!

    Sunday January 24 2021 07:50, you wrote to All about an urgent matter!:

    I'm really new at Linux, But I'm really enjoying the learning curve so
    far for all of its frustrations.

    So I'm actually operating on a mobile phone. I've installed Ubuntu
    20.4 in Termux. With the phoneps architecture, more or less it's
    similar to using a Raspberry Pi.

    My silly question is when doing any apt type commands, it's always
    shows me that 1 program is partially installed or not removed.

    I dont know that I have seen that exact statement before... Sometimes apt will show files that are no longer needed due to an update or something. If thats the case you can try sudo apt autoremove. Another time ive seen it still showing an update or something held back from an update is that it needs sudo apt dist-upgrade. I will say Im no linux genius and I run debian, but I do run the daily's so I am having to trouble shoot a lot.. Give those a try..





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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to Rick Smith on Sun Jan 24 20:16:20 2021
    On 24 Jan 2021, Rick Smith said the following...
    I dont know that I have seen that exact statement before... Sometimes
    apt will show files that are no longer needed due to an update or something. If thats the case you can try sudo apt autoremove. Another time ive seen it still showing an update or something held back from an update is that it needs sudo apt dist-upgrade. I will say Im no linux genius and I run debian, but I do run
    the daily's so I am having to trouble shoot a lot.. Give those a try..

    Thanks. I had tried the first one, but not the second yet.

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Charles Pierson on Mon Jan 25 12:58:16 2021
    Hello Charles!

    Sunday January 24 2021 20:16, you wrote to Rick Smith:

    On 24 Jan 2021, Rick Smith said the following...
    I dont know that I have seen that exact statement before...
    Sometimes apt will show files that are no longer needed due to an
    update or something. If thats the case you can try sudo apt
    autoremove. Another time ive seen it still showing an update or
    something held back from an update is that it needs sudo apt
    dist-upgrade. I will say Im no linux genius and I run debian,
    but I do run the daily's so I am having to trouble shoot a lot..
    Give those a try..

    Thanks. I had tried the first one, but not the second yet.


    Warning - on other distros such as Mageia after a update when the updater reports that some packages are now orphaned it is lying

    So removing them can break links with other packages it does not know about one
    way or another.

    Suggest you never remove such unused packages in future unless you really know it is clear. Depending on your package manager and yes there is more than one there are some tools that can be used to verify that nothing installed via the manager is being used UNLESS you have manually installed some products which they do not know about.

    Again as for safety leave them as a distro upgrade usually removes such dead wood. Note the 'usually'.



    Vincent

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  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to Vincent Coen on Mon Jan 25 07:28:44 2021
    On 25 Jan 2021, Vincent Coen said the following...
    Thanks. I had tried the first one, but not the second yet.


    Warning - on other distros such as Mageia after a update when the updater reports that some packages are now orphaned it is lying

    So removing them can break links with other packages it does not know about one
    way or another.

    Suggest you never remove such unused packages in future unless you
    really know it is clear. Depending on your package manager and yes
    there is more than one there are some tools that can be used to verify that nothing installed via the manager is being used UNLESS you have manually installed some products which they do not know about.

    Thanks.

    Neither od Rick's suggestions fixed the message, so I'm leaving it alone.
    It's more of an annoyance than a problem, and nothing I am running have any issues I have seen.

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Charles Pierson on Mon Jan 25 16:29:54 2021
    Hello Charles!

    Monday January 25 2021 07:28, you wrote to me:

    So removing them can break links with other packages it does not
    know about one way or another.

    Suggest you never remove such unused packages in future unless
    you really know it is clear. Depending on your package manager
    and yes there is more than one there are some tools that can be
    used to verify that nothing installed via the manager is being
    used UNLESS you have manually installed some products which they
    do not know about.


    Neither od Rick's suggestions fixed the message, so I'm leaving it
    alone. It's more of an annoyance than a problem, and nothing I am
    running have any issues I have seen.


    I had to find this out the hard way a few year back and yes still applies to the current versions of Linux tools, I am guessing that it is not easy to fix at least using rpm managers.

    Vincent

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  • From Phigan@1:105/82 to Charles Pierson on Tue Feb 2 12:15:00 2021
    Re: Re: Silly Question
    By: Charles Pierson to Vincent Coen on Mon Jan 25 2021 07:28 am

    Neither od Rick's suggestions fixed the message, so I'm leaving it alone. It's more of an annoyance than a problem, and nothing I am running have any issues I have seen.

    Have you tried apt install --fix-missing or --fix-broken?
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