Hello, Wilfred van Velzen - All.
On 10/12/20 3:37 PM you wrote:

Only the first line is quoted.

It is more like a dynamic link to the message being quoted. In Telegram,
if you click on the message being quoted, it will take you to the
original message.

It is confusing to someone from a regular Fido type message world.

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android

---
* Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)

Only the first line is quoted.

This is a reply from the TgM side. Let's see what the Subj is.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

The first line of post was a good strategy. But can you keep the subject the same when we do a Reply on a fido-side message?

Yes. On Fido side subject is preserved.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, August Abolins - Stas Mishchenkov .
On 10/12/20 4:14 PM you wrote:

Hi, Tommi! SM> SM> 12 ��� 20 16:02, Tommi Koivula -> Wilfred van

Velzen: SM> SM> TK> MSGID looks fine now. SM> SM> Now I need to
remember to restore the replay link in telegram. ;) SM> SM> Have
nice nights. SM> Stas Mishchenkov. That would be nice!
Usually when we hover over the msg, the "Reply" option reveals
itself - which is convenient.

That's new. Normally, the messages when I reply in HotdogEd divide the
message I am replying to up by previous messages in the thread.

This time, nearly the entire prior message is in one block.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1 * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas
Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android

---
* Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)

Hi, Wilfred!

12 ��� 20 15:30, Wilfred van Velzen -> Tommi Koivula:

@MSGID: 2:460/58 00000354

MSGID looks fine now.

Well, normally you want to base your MSGID on the time, and not use a sequence number. Because if you re-install the application (within 3 years), it will probably restart at 0 again, and you have created duplicate MSGID's...

However, such MSGID does not violate the standard. In this case, it is made on the basis of Telegram msg_id and allows replies from Fido to be chained on the Telegram side.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- ����� ࠧ ��堩 ��� ��᫥����. ��⮬� �� ������� ⠪ � �㤥�.
* Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)

Here is the problem with that idea, as I understand it. Stas's gate has nothing to do with sending the message you type. It's just like Messenger or Text. His gate simply transfers between Telegram and Fido.

The gate software picks up the Telegram content and feeds it to Fido. I'm just suggesting that it doesn't feed immediately. Maybe it can wait at :00, :15, :30, and :45 time slots. Otherwise, this TgM/Fido experience is forcing me to double-check my messages before I "send" it. LOL. I like the spelling-check in TgM. At least I can fix those obvious things while still editing. But it would be nice to correct a post if I forgot to add a link or another sentence.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Thanks for that. I see that there does indeed seem to be a missing CR. But I swear I pressed CR after the last pair of dashes. In Telegram I *have* to press backspace to produce two distinct dashes, and then I am quite accustomed to press CR after that so that the body of the message begins on a new line.

Maybe the photo attachment affected the result and caused the removal of any CRs?
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 10:37 PM you wrote:

Here is the problem with that idea, as I understand it. Stas's
gate has nothing to do with sending the message you type. It's
just like Messenger or Text. His gate simply transfers between
Telegram and Fido.

It gets messages from the Telegram's group and sends them to Fido
echo...

Exactly. So what August vis asking, a "recall message" like functionality, I don't think is possible is it?


--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android
--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 15:12, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Exactly. So what August vis asking, a "recall message" like
functionality, I don't think is possible is it?

This is not possible technically.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- ���᫠ ���窠 �窮 ��ਪ� � ��ࠧ�⥫쭮 ��ᬮ�५� �� �������.
* Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)

This trick does not work for file descriptions. Perhaps I will deal with this later.
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi, Charles!

13 ��� 20 01:34, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

Also the file attaches such as:
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f848c12.jpg
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f849270.jpg
..where recorded with those URLs but the did not render on your computer.
Maybe the problem is related?
BTW.. I miss the way you built the subject lines out of the first 40-char
of a message. The 3-dots look bad (rendering the Subj unusable) on the
fido side.

Those links give me a 404 error.

Found and fixed a typo in the code. It should work correctly now.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- ��� ��ᯮ����� ��-���� �������, � � ⠪ �� ᮡ����� ��祣� ������.
* Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)

Hi Charles,

On 2020-11-13 19:19:11, you wrote to All:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

Bye, Wilfred.

That's what a sticker does in the transfer.


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello Wilfred!

13 Nov 2020 17:33, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Charles Pierson:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

tgs is equal to tar.gz, this have to be a suported mime in g0x.ru webserver as a mime defined mimetype

Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

Are you sure enough? It looks more like some kind of MOJO object. That it probably is.
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fafac4f.jpg




--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello Wilfred!

14 Nov 2020 17:03, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Are you sure? .tar.gz Is usually shortend to .tgz, not .tgs.

tgs is not defined mimetype in linux, while tgz is equant to tar.gz file type

adding tgs to webserver will help if browsers know how to display a tgs file

Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

In this case, .tgs is the file type for Telegram Stickers. I wouldn't know where to begin making them readable elsewhere.


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fb1652a.webp



--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Charles Pierson wrote to Benny Pedersen <=-

In this case, .tgs is the file type for Telegram Stickers. I wouldn't
know where to begin making them readable elsewhere.

Great, more unparseable extensions that aren't supported in FTN
messages?

I'm concerned that, while it's intruiging to opening Fidonet
messaging to other platforms, it's not improving the experience from
a Fido perspective (with the exception of having more eyeballs on the
messages posted on Fidonet)


... Abandon normal instruments
--- MultiMail/XT v0.52
* Origin: http://realitycheckbbs.org | tomorrow's retro tech (1:218/700)

This is an example of how some of these Telegram messages look on the
Fidonet side. How is this an improvement, again?

My BBS environment is intentionally separate from the web. The joy I
receive from BBSing is specifically because of the lack of likes,
links, and forwarded content. I want to read what people are thinking,
not what they're clicking on.

If there's a way to share the concepts, ideas and content of Fidonet
through alternative means, I'm all for it. But keep what makes FTN
unique.



========================================================================
System: realitycheckBBS
Area: FIDONET Fidonet Futures discussions
Date: 11-15-20 20:28
From: Brother Rabbit
To: All
Subj: ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fb1652a.webp



--- tg BBS v0.6.2
# Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)



... Change ambiguities to specifics
--- MultiMail/XT v0.52
* Origin: http://realitycheckbbs.org | tomorrow's retro tech (1:218/700)

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fedfdbc.jpg



--- tg BBS v0.6.3
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Glad to see you, All!


https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/2021-05-16%20Future%20Messaging%20Proposal.html


*** [Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256]

... Tag, you are IT!
--- tg BBS v0.6.4
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)

Glad to see you, All!


https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/2021-05-16%20Future%20Messaging%20Proposal.md


*** [Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256]

... Tag, you are IT!
--- tg BBS v0.6.4
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)

Hi, All!

Forward from: obstenu

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/61253871.jpg


Have a nice carrot!
Brother Rabbit.

... A good companion not only listens attentively, but pours the drink on time --- Use "%UserProfile %Tearline text" to customize tearline.
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/61fcab10.mp4

... "TheVaultBBS.ddns.net:2323"
--- tg BBS v0.7.1
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/61fcab13.mp4

... "TheVaultBBS.ddns.net:2323"
--- tg BBS v0.7.1
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/61fcab14.jpg

... "TheVaultBBS.ddns.net:2323"
--- tg BBS v0.7.1
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)