• An actual useful thing

    From andrew clarke@3:633/267 to All on Mon Dec 21 23:53:52 2020
    21 Dec 20 23:34, I wrote to Maurice Kinal:

    This is just creating busywork for the handful of developers left (eg.
    me, occasionally) and new bugs for no benefit.

    Maybe it's too late, but if you want to actually create something useful (and long overdue), come up with some ideas of transparently detecting and overcoming mail delivery failures in FidoNet.

    In the 25+ years I've been using FTN software this has become my biggest gripe. The software has no way of detecting that a node has gone down and automatically routing around the problem.

    Because the only way I can tell if my uplinks go down is if I check my binkd logs for persistent errors, then manually intervene. With that part requiring a lot of mundane re-linking of echomail areas from another uplink I'm "friends" with, assuming they even carry the echos I've become disconnected from.

    Not to mention netmails that never get delivered because an intermediate node went down permanently.

    Admittedly this scenario is much less likely than it was in the dialup days, now that running a 24/7 binkp node costs very little, and hardware is much more reliable.

    But there's always the possibility your uplink will suddenly disappear without warning.

    Echomail "meshing" does help a bit, but obviously not with netmail.

    Best of all, solving this problem shouldn't break any existing software, because it would be entirely opt-in. But beneficial for the people who opted-into the system, if it worked well.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Andrew Clarke on Mon Dec 21 08:48:06 2020
    On 21 Dec 20 23:53:52, Andrew Clarke said the following to All:

    Maybe it's too late, but if you want to actually create something useful (a long overdue), come up with some ideas of transparently detecting and overcoming mail delivery failures in FidoNet.

    I can already script all of this with D'Bridge.

    Nick

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to andrew clarke on Mon Dec 21 19:07:00 2020
    Good ${greeting_time}, andrew!

    21 Dec 2020 23:53:52, you wrote to All:

    This is just creating busywork for the handful of developers left
    (eg. me, occasionally) and new bugs for no benefit.
    Maybe it's too late, but if you want to actually create something
    useful (and long overdue), come up with some ideas of transparently detecting and overcoming mail delivery failures in FidoNet.
    In the 25+ years I've been using FTN software this has become my
    biggest gripe. The software has no way of detecting that a node has
    gone down and automatically routing around the problem.

    Ughm... here in R50 we had this almost solved many years ago, and the key software for it is available at https://github.com/huskyproject/fidoroute


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