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  • Re: Unwanted echo message

    From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Fabio Bizzi on Tue Oct 8 11:46:00 2019
    In a message on 10-07-19 Fabio Bizzi said to All:

    Hi Fabio,

    I've written a perl script for the Husky HPT mail processor that
    filters unwanted echo messages from selected Echo Areas, the script
    has a configuration file where you can filter messages based on the
    From/To fields, Echo Area Name, source node or a mix of the three.

    Thanks for the info. It may help some but for this PCBoard system it's
    not necessary. I do never receive any unwanted echo or other messages.

    This is a fantastic BBS software.


    Have a good evening,

    Holger


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  • From Fabio Bizzi@2:335/364.1 to Holger Granholm on Wed Oct 9 07:55:42 2019
    Hello Holger!

    08 Oct 19 11:46, you wrote to me:

    I've written a perl script for the Husky HPT mail processor that
    [...]

    Thanks for the info. It may help some but for this PCBoard system it's
    not necessary. I do never receive any unwanted echo or other messages.

    I jumped at the chance to learn perl scripts, I had to impelment a mail tracker for the bouncing of the netmails send to a node that's not in the nodelist and writing and debugging this filter was a good gym. :)

    This is a fantastic BBS software.

    Also all the Husky suite is a wonderful piece of software too, every day I discover more and more funcionalities and powerful options. :)

    Thank you too. :)

    Ciao!
    Fabio

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Holger Granholm on Wed Oct 9 07:35:00 2019
    Holger Granholm wrote to Fabio Bizzi <=-

    I've written a perl script for the Husky HPT mail processor that
    filters unwanted echo messages from selected Echo Areas, the script
    has a configuration file where you can filter messages based on the From/To fields, Echo Area Name, source node or a mix of the three.

    Thanks for the info. It may help some but for this PCBoard system
    it's not necessary. I do never receive any unwanted echo or other messages.

    This is a fantastic BBS software.
    --- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 2

    Holger,

    How are you doing Fidonet with PCB? Are you using some kind of
    frontend mailer like FD, or using the built-in echomail functions
    of PCB itself? Also, what are you using for answering the
    incoming telnet requests, something like NETFOSS/NetSerial?

    Thanks for info!


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Fri Oct 11 13:09:52 2019
    Michiel van der Vlist <0@5555.280.2> wrote:

    DD> Does echomail "pass through" or is it re-broadcast at each node?

    Yes.

    When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D

    'Tommi

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Oct 11 12:19:42 2019

    DD> Does echomail "pass through" or is it re-broadcast at each node?

    Yes.

    When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D

    Ohrr ?

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Oct 11 12:21:02 2019
    Hello Tommi,

    On Friday October 11 2019 13:12, you wrote to me:

    Does echomail "pass through" or is it re-broadcast at each node?

    Yes.

    When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D

    Of course I can. "Yes" is a logically correct answer when at least one of the specified conditions is satisfied.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Mark Lewis@1:3634/12 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Oct 11 10:30:32 2019
    Re: Unwanted echo message
    By: Tommi Koivula to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Oct 11 2019 13:12:52

    Michiel van der Vlist <0@5555.280.2> wrote:

    that's a weird address...

    Does echomail "pass through" or is it re-broadcast at each node?

    MvdV>> Yes.

    When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D

    really?

    do you want chicken or steak for dinner?
    yes.

    it means either one ;)


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Mark Lewis on Fri Oct 11 17:55:38 2019

     TK> Michiel van der Vlist <0@5555.280.2> wrote:
    that's a weird address...

    You should know the jamnntpd address patch.

     DD>>> Does echomail "pass through" or is it re-broadcast at each node?  MvdV>> Yes.
     TK> When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D
    really?

      do you want chicken or steak for dinner?
      yes.

    it means either one ;)

    Ok then. English is not my native language. In finnish you have to choose. You cannot have both. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Mark Lewis on Fri Oct 11 16:39:50 2019
    Hello mark,

    On Friday October 11 2019 10:26, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    do you want chicken or steak for dinner?
    yes.

    it means either one ;)

    Or both.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sat Oct 12 08:47:06 2019
    On 11/10/2019 20:23, Michiel van der Vlist -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    Does echomail "pass through" or is it re-broadcast at each node?

    Yes.

    When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D

    MvdV> Of course I can. "Yes" is a logically correct answer when at least one
    MvdV> of the specified conditions is satisfied.

    Bloody binary logic!

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sat Oct 12 08:52:36 2019
    On 12/10/2019 00:41, Michiel van der Vlist -> mark lewis wrote:

    do you want chicken or steak for dinner?
    yes.

    it means either one ;)

    MvdV> Or both.

    Does anyone ask "do you want chicken XOR steak for dinner"?

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    David

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sat Oct 12 00:42:26 2019
    Hello David,

    On Saturday October 12 2019 08:47, you wrote to me:

    When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D

    MvdV>> Of course I can. "Yes" is a logically correct answer when at
    MvdV>> least one of the specified conditions is satisfied.

    Bloody binary logic!

    We could change to fuzzy logic, but I am afraid it would just cloud the issue..


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sat Oct 12 00:43:48 2019
    Hello David,

    On Saturday October 12 2019 08:52, you wrote to me:

    do you want chicken or steak for dinner?
    yes.

    it means either one ;)

    MvdV>> Or both.

    Does anyone ask "do you want chicken XOR steak for dinner"?

    No one has asked me that question yet. But if I apply OR vs XOR in the case of your recent question the me then in the case of XOR my answer would be "no".

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Oct 13 08:15:28 2019
    On 12/10/2019 08:44, Michiel van der Vlist -> David Drummond wrote:

    When there is "or" in the question, you cannot answer "Yes." :D

    MvdV>>> Of course I can. "Yes" is a logically correct answer when at
    MvdV>>> least one of the specified conditions is satisfied.

    Bloody binary logic!

    MvdV> We could change to fuzzy logic, but I am afraid it would just cloud the
    MvdV> issue..

    More than it already is?

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    Regards
    David

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sun Oct 13 01:11:10 2019
    Hello David,

    On Sunday October 13 2019 08:15, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>>> Of course I can. "Yes" is a logically correct answer when at
    MvdV>>>> least one of the specified conditions is satisfied.

    Bloody binary logic!

    MvdV>> We could change to fuzzy logic, but I am afraid it would just
    MvdV>> cloud the issue..

    More than it already is?

    Nes!


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Oct 13 11:59:18 2019
    On 13/10/2019 09:13, Michiel van der Vlist -> David Drummond wrote:

    MvdV>>>>> Of course I can. "Yes" is a logically correct answer when at
    MvdV>>>>> least one of the specified conditions is satisfied.

    Bloody binary logic!

    MvdV>>> We could change to fuzzy logic, but I am afraid it would just
    MvdV>>> cloud the issue..

    More than it already is?

    MvdV> Nes!

    Zoom!

    Best I could come up with was Lithuanian for "because". Do you/the Dutch speak Lithuanian?


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    Regards
    David

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sun Oct 13 09:49:24 2019
    Hello David,

    On Sunday October 13 2019 11:59, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Nes!

    Zoom!

    N(o|Y)es

    Best I could come up with was Lithuanian for "because". Do you/the
    Dutch speak Lithuanian?

    Some do, I don't.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to David Drummond on Sun Oct 13 18:41:54 2019
    Hi! David,

    On 13 Oct 19 09:51, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to you:

    MvdV>>> Nes!
    Zoom!
    N(o|Y)es

    Best I could come up with was Lithuanian for "because". Do
    you/the Dutch speak Lithuanian?

    Some do, I don't.

    It would appear that most EU countries may one day meld their local languages into a single Eurpoean langauge. I was made aware by an immigrant ~20 years ago that there's little variance in some nation states' languages in the eastern Mediterranean, also.

    English may yet gain a EU comptetitor, in time... following a Brexit. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Paul Quinn on Sun Oct 13 11:23:28 2019
    Hello Paul,

    On Sunday October 13 2019 18:51, you wrote to David Drummond:

    Some do, I don't.

    Perhaps I should mention that "few" is more accurate than "some".

    It would appear that most EU countries may one day meld their local languages into a single Eurpoean langauge.

    Wishful thinking. That is not going to happen in my life time. Rge Tower Of Bable is still standing...

    I was made aware by an immigrant ~20 years ago that there's little variance in some nation states' languages in the eastern
    Mediterranean, also.

    To an outsider German and Dutch may sound similar, I can assure you that A Dutch native speaker that has never been confronted with German, will not understand a native german speaker.

    Even the Dutch and the people from Flandria sometimes have difficulty undetstanding each other. Dutch and Flamish are supposed to be the same language.

    English may yet gain a EU comptetitor, in time... following a Brexit.
    ;)

    Believe it or not, not everyone ine Europe speaks English. Angela Merkel does not. But she speaks Russian...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Oct 13 20:12:28 2019
    Hi! Michiel,

    On 13 Oct 19 11:25, you wrote to me:

    Some do, I don't.
    Perhaps I should mention that "few" is more accurate than "some".

    That is different.

    To an outsider German and Dutch may sound similar, I can assure you
    that A Dutch native speaker that has never been confronted with
    German, will not understand a native german speaker.

    I don't understand either spoken to any great extent. (Maybe 2-3 words in 15 of German and, 1 in 20 of Dutch?) I do a lot better if the passages are written (typed I should say, for fear of being presented with peculiar national scripts). A fractional gist of the written material is way better than zero comprehension. I did a lot of reading in my younger years.

    Believe it or not, not everyone ine Europe speaks English. Angela
    Merkel does not. But she speaks Russian...

    Yes, I knew that she shied away from showing that she can 'follow' the lingo. Her ability with Russian surprises me.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Paul Quinn on Mon Oct 14 07:31:54 2019
    On 13/10/2019 18:51, Paul Quinn -> David Drummond wrote:

    English may yet gain a EU comptetitor, in time... following a Brexit. ;)

    I won't be holding my breath...

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    Regards
    David

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to David Drummond on Mon Oct 14 08:35:26 2019
    Hi! David,

    On 14 Oct 19 07:31, you wrote to me:

    English may yet gain a EU comptetitor, in time... following a
    Brexit. ;)

    I won't be holding my breath...

    In truth I was toe-tapping, waiting for some pain killers to 'kick in'. Each tap allowed me measure any effectiveness in the affected foot (I've had a bout of gout [nice rhyme] in my left ankle for over a week).

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Paul Quinn on Mon Oct 14 11:52:04 2019
    On 14/10/2019 08:45, Paul Quinn -> David Drummond wrote:

    English may yet gain a EU comptetitor, in time... following a
    Brexit. ;)

    I won't be holding my breath...

    In truth I was toe-tapping, waiting for some pain killers to 'kick in'. Each tap allowed me measure any effectiveness in the affected foot (I've had a bout of gout [nice rhyme] in my left ankle for over a week).

    Diet related?

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    Regards
    David

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to David Drummond on Mon Oct 14 14:52:48 2019
    Hi! David,

    On 14 Oct 19 11:52, you wrote to me:

    (I've had a bout of gout [nice rhyme] in my left ankle for over a
    week).

    Diet related?

    Maybe. Something I ate, drank or smoked 40-odd years ago? Bad mushrooms perhaps.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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