Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from BinkD + FastEcho as it's mailer and tosser respectively. In the coming days I plan to cut the HUB over to one powered by Mystic BBS. This should assist with some dupe loop niggles created because FE strips inter-zonal SEEN-BY kludges.
Mystic does not do that.

I'll post again when the cut over has been completed.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Hello Paul!

06 Jun 19 21:22, you wrote to All:

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from BinkD

Good Luck!!! :)

Ciao!
Fabio

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: ]\/[imac Rebirth Boss Point (2:335/364.1)

Paul,

This should assist with some
dupe loop niggles created because FE strips inter-zonal SEEN-BY kludges.

Way to go. Thank you.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Hello Fabio,

On Thursday June 06 2019 11:42, you wrote to Paul Hayton:

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from
BinkD

Good Luck!!! :)

He will need it.... :(


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from
BinkD

Good Luck!!! :)

He will need it.... :(

He may need some help, which he does have.

If changes are needed in Mystic, James is always open to that.

We are looking at a couple of things now. If you have info or input about the way Mystic interacts with the net we are listening.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

* Carbon copied to Paul Hayton 3:770/1

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-06 21:22:56, you wrote to All:

Just a heads up that 3:770/1 will shortly be migrating away from BinkD
+ FastEcho as it's mailer and tosser respectively. In the coming days
I plan to cut the HUB over to one powered by Mystic BBS. This should assist with some dupe loop niggles created because FE strips
inter-zonal SEEN-BY kludges. Mystic does not do that.

I'll post again when the cut over has been completed.

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was never connected to on your system:

11:21:35.154 Toss
11:21:35.157 Processing 05d2310f.pkt from 3:770/1 to 2:280/464
11:21:35.157 Pkt info: Program id FEFE 0.0, Type 2+, 33737, 2019-06-09 11:16:52, Pwd, Sec
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'FIDO-REQ'
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'ALLFIX_FILE'
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'FDN_ANNOUNCE'
11:21:35.157 Unknown area: 'FIDO-REQ'

11:49:09.606 Unknown area: 'HOME_COOKING'
11:49:09.607 Unknown area: 'RECIPES'

12:17:55.715 Unknown area: 'WEATHER'

:-(

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was
never connected to on your system:

It's mystic when that happens ... <pun intended>

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

On 09 Jun 2019 at 01:09p, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was
never connected to on your system:

Apologies Wilfred... Can you try and areafix them off?

I'm going to look at this further tonight when I get home.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 09 Jun 2019 at 02:13p, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

@MSGID: 2:292/854 10133808
@REPLY: 2:280/464 5cfce8f5
@SEEN-BY: 103/705 153/250 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 1 229/426 240/5832 2452/250
@SEEN-BY: 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 292/140 789 8125 854 310/31 317/3 335/364
@SEEN-BY: 393/68 396/45 410/9 423/120 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 772/210 500
@PATH: 292/854 280/464 770/1
@

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was never connected to on your system:

It's mystic when that happens ... <pun intended>

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Reply one...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 09 Jun 2019 at 02:13p, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

@MSGID: 2:292/854 10133808
@REPLY: 2:280/464 5cfce8f5
@SEEN-BY: 1/120 103/705 116/116 123/0 115 150 25 50 755 135/300 138/146 153/250
@SEEN-BY: 6809 757 7715 154/10 18/0 203/0 220/70 221/0 1 360 6 229/426 240/5832
@SEEN-BY: 2452/250 261/38 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 292/140 789 8125 854 310/31
@SEEN-BY: 317/3 320/219 335/364 3634/0 119 12 15 27 50 393/68 396/45
410/9
@SEEN-BY: 423/120 460/58 633/280 640/1321 1384 305 712/848 770/1 100 330 340
@SEEN-BY: 772/210 500
@PATH: 292/854 280/464 221/1 640/1384 3634/12 153/7715 250 770/1

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was never connected to on your system:

It's mystic when that happens ... <pun intended>

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Reply 2..

As you can see I am getting dupes to 770/100 from 770/1 after the cut over.

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not active at
the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for now I'll start looking at a Plan B.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 12:27p, Paul Hayton pondered and said...

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not active
at the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for now I'll start looking at a Plan B.

3:770/1 has been restored to the previous setup. Will advise when this
changes.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

As you can see I am getting dupes to 770/100 from 770/1 after the cut
over.

I'm getting dupes all the time. No big deal they get trashed.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-10 11:53:39, you wrote to me:

Since this morning I'm getting mail from you in echomail areas I was
never connected to on your system:

Apologies Wilfred... Can you try and areafix them off?

I did yesterday. But since you moved back to your previous setup I don't think it's relevant anymore. ;)


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-10 12:27:38, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not
active at the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for
now I'll start looking at a Plan B.

Any thoughts on Plan B, you would like to share with us? ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

I plan to restore to FastEcho and revisit my plans. James is not active at the moment otherwise I would work with him to debug. But for now I'll

start

looking at a Plan B.

I switched to Hpt from Fastecho. It was quite simple process, there is a configuration converter in the Husky package. There was still some manual work to do but the converter helped a lot.

'Tommi

---
* Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 08:50p, Tommi Koivula pondered and said...

I switched to Hpt from Fastecho. It was quite simple process, there is a configuration converter in the Husky package. There was still some
manual work to do but the converter helped a lot.

Thanks Tommi :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 11:43a, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Any thoughts on Plan B, you would like to share with us? ;)

HPT at this stage will let you know when/if done :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

On 10 Jun 2019 at 08:46a, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

I'm getting dupes all the time. No big deal they get trashed.

:)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Hi Paul,

On 2019-06-11 11:25:10, you wrote to me:

On 10 Jun 2019 at 11:43a, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Any thoughts on Plan B, you would like to share with us? ;)

HPT at this stage will let you know when/if done :)

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows)
It can import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

On 11 Jun 19 12:08:47, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Paul Hayton:

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows)
It can import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's name.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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Hi Nick,

On 2019-06-11 09:22:13, you wrote to me:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's
name.

Does it?

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Wilfred.

11 Jun 19 16:11, you wrote to Nick Andre:

On 2019-06-11 09:22:13, you wrote to me:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's
name.

Does it?

Ask the author. :)

'Tommi

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/1)

On 11 Jun 19 16:11:24, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Nick Andre:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the author's name.

Does it?

Yes, versions of it did. I see now that it is advanced even further, with the ability to say hi to the author. Must have some real advanced AI. We better be careful; it may send an evil robot back in time to kill Sarah Connor.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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On 11 Jun 2019 at 12:08p, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows)
It can import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

I have but honestly the lack of JAM support for Netmail is a key reason I
have not opted to use it.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Hi Nick,

On 2019-06-11 14:55:02, you wrote to me:

Fmail is so advanced, it has a seperate menu option for the

author's

name.

Does it?

Yes, versions of it did.

No, my name was never in any of the FMail executables.

I see now that it is advanced even further,

If there was nothing before how can it advance?

with the ability to say hi to the author. Must have some real advanced
AI. We better be careful; it may send an evil robot back in time to
kill Sarah Connor.

Yet you used that function, so that AI is in your computer... And now I can read all those secret Z1 areas directly on your computer. Thank you!

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

On 12 Jun 19 08:37:33, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Nick Andre:

Yet you used that function, so that AI is in your computer... And now I can read all those secret Z1 areas directly on your computer. Thank you!

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward won't be offended.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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Hi Nick,

On 2019-06-12 10:30:23, you wrote to me:

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I
think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward
won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

On 2019 Jun 12 08:50:54, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Have you considered FMail? (Since you are using Windows) It can
import the AREAS.BBS file of other tossers... ;)

I have but honestly the lack of JAM support for Netmail is a key
reason I have not opted to use it.

i thought it could import netmails into the BBS into a JAM area?

generally speaking, in traditional FTN installations, there are at least two netmail areas... one for the mailer and tosser and one for the BBS... the tosser is the interface between them... if not the tosser, then a tool like netmgr or maybe rntrack...

the above became apparent to be when i was running remoteaccess... it only supported the HMB at that time... it never supported MSG so there was no way to share the ""main"" netmail area so users could get and send netmail... later on JAM was added but there was still the problem of not being able to share the ""main"" netmail area in MSG format... the mailer and the tosser effectively communicate via that area and the BBS netmail area is a seperate entity altogether...

once that clicked in my mind, everything was golden... it even lead me to understanding that one could set up seperate netmail areas for each network their system was in, too... that helped lessen the training of the users using netmail so they didn't have to understand FTN addresses and choose the proper one for the network they were writing netmail in...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Stressed is just desserts backwards.
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On 12 Jun 19 18:46:28, Wilfred Van Velzen said the following to Nick Andre:

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

The Z1 secret echos are so secret, no systems are in the Seen-By lines.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so

much; I WV> NA> think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay
to admit it, Ward

won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

The Z1 secret echos are so secret, no systems are in the Seen-By line

Uh oh, don't forget the Path, Origin and CtlA lines like MSGID
etc... "...it's a conspiracy man..."

<g>...

Joe Martin

--- ViaMAIL!/WC v2.00
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Hi Nick.

12 Jun 19 14:43, you wrote to Wilfred Van Velzen:

@MSGID: 1:229/426 11D6CF63

You and some others seem to obsess about Z1 secret areas so much; I
think you just secretly want to join Z1. Its okay to admit it, Ward
won't be offended.

Maybe I already did, secretly...

The Z1 secret echos are so secret, no systems are in the Seen-By lines.

Yeah, and many top secret kludges that we in Z2 cannot see. :D

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2

'Tommi

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/1)

Is back up now after a planned power cut.

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Is back up now after a planned power cut.

Pay your utilities bill and power will not be cut.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

On 17 Jan 2020 at 02:14p, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

Is back up now after a planned power cut.

Pay your utilities bill and power will not be cut.

Power pole replacement Ward...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Is back up now after a planned power cut.

Pay your utilities bill and power will not be cut.

Power pole replacement Ward...

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

On 18 Jan 20 14:09:38, Ward Dossche said the following to Paul Hayton:

Pay your utilities bill and power will not be cut.

Power pole replacement Ward...

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

We have them here too. We get to enjoy them when we are not busy churning butter or caring for the horses that transport our buggy to the town square.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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Nick Andre wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

Pay your utilities bill and power will not be cut.

Power pole replacement Ward...

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

We have them here too. We get to enjoy them when we are not busy
churning butter or caring for the horses that transport our buggy
to the town square.

I'd love to get out and enjoy them, but I've still got to slop the
hogs and milk the cows before sundown. I taint been to the town
square in nearly a fortnight.



... Pros are those who do their jobs well, even when they don't feel like it. === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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On 18 Jan 20 13:48:00, Dan Clough said the following to Nick Andre:

We have them here too. We get to enjoy them when we are not busy churning butter or caring for the horses that transport our buggy
to the town square.

I'd love to get out and enjoy them, but I've still got to slop the
hogs and milk the cows before sundown. I taint been to the town
square in nearly a fortnight.

I have these four carcasses I need to haul into Red Rock before the storm...

Nick

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On 18/01/2020 15:09, 2292/854 wrote:

Is back up now after a planned power cut.

Pay your utilities bill and power will not be cut.

Power pole replacement Ward...

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

One as to remember that some places are a tad larger than Belgium. Burying all of the power lines is a rather large task that is still under action.

--
Regards
David

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68
* Origin: Narrabri, NSW (3:640/305)

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

One as to remember that some places are a tad larger than Belgium.
Burying all of the power lines is a rather large task that is still under action.

So ... sewers are hanging also from poles? Water mains?

No? If these are burried then there's no incentive not to bury power lines ... and phone lines ... and ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

On 19/01/2020 13:08, 2292/854 wrote:

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

One as to remember that some places are a tad larger than Belgium.
Burying all of the power lines is a rather large task that is still under
action.

So ... sewers are hanging also from poles? Water mains?

No? If these are burried then there's no incentive not to bury power
lines ... and phone lines ... and ...

I think you'll find that much of Australia does not have "sewers" as you know them. Where I live there are no sewers, no piped water.

The unburied power and phone lines date back to before easy burying technology was available. They have continued to maintain the poles and lines since inception as to bury them all now would incur an expense that no-one seems to want to bear.

Much of Australia's road infrastructure is rather shitty too - the country is simply too large for the meagre population to afford better stuff.

Can you drive for 250km along any major highway in Belgium and see no signs of human presence (other than the road you're travelling on)?

--
Regards
David

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Power pole replacement Ward...

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

Umm You have who for a President? :-)

Nick

--- SLMAIL v5.1 (#SLO409KEDG15G098)
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Can you drive for 250km along any major highway in Belgium and see no
signs of human presence (other than the road you're travelling on)?

I think it would be hard to drive 250 km along any highway here and not be in at least one other country ... or at the bottom of the sea.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Power pole replacement Ward...

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

Umm You have who for a President? :-)

The kingdom of Belgium, until further notice, does not have a president ... yet.

Not that we are particularly fond of him, th rulership of the country should not depend upon a specific sperm which swam fater than all the others.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Re: Re: 3:770/1
By: Ward Dossche to David Drummond on Mon Jan 20 2020 08:03 am

I think it would be hard to drive 250 km along any highway here and not be in at least one other country ... or at the bottom of the sea.

Which is why the America genre of the "road trip" film doesn't map well to European cinema. You could drive two days and still be in Texas!
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Which is why the America genre of the "road trip" film doesn't map well
to European cinema. You could drive two days and still be in Texas!

I've done that in Montana and Alaska, and one time in my life I was unhappily surprised when driving from Missoula MT to NYC.

On the other hand, you can do roadtrips too here ... I can drive to Moscow, Russia while you can drive only to Moscow, Idaho ... :-)

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

On 20 Jan 20 21:47:36, Ward Dossche said the following to Kurt Weiske:

I've done that in Montana and Alaska, and one time in my life I was unhappi surprised when driving from Missoula MT to NYC.

Was that in the minivan?

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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I've done that in Montana and Alaska, and one time in my life I was

unhappi

surprised when driving from Missoula MT to NYC.

Was that in the minivan?

Yes.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

The kingdom of Belgium, until further notice, does not have a president ...
yet.

Not that we are particularly fond of him, th rulership of the country
should not depend upon a specific sperm which swam fater than all the
others.

My Apologies... I thought you were from the Orange variety :-) At least you have great beer!

Nick

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Hi! Tony,

On 01/21/2020 11:40 AM, you wrote to David Drummond:

I'm 150km from Melbourne, that distance it
barely shows on a map of Oz. :)

Just down the road a bit. I thought Bendigo was an outer suburb of Melbourne. ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

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The kingdom of Belgium, until further notice, does not have a president ... yet.

Not that we are particularly fond of him, the rulership of the country >should not depend upon a specific sperm which swam faster than all the >others.

My Apologies... I thought you were from the Orange variety :-)

That's a big "Oooops" ... 8-)

At least you have great beer!

Hundreds of different kinds ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

I think it would be hard to drive 250 km along any highway here and not
be in at least one other country ... or at the bottom of the sea.

Untrue. A certain REC then, RC, now drove 500+Km just to have dinner with a ZC and 500+ back. Still in the same EU country :)

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: VM/SP (2:410/9)

Speaking of Texas, we had a cattle station in the Northern Terrority of Australia that was a few square miles short of the State of Texas.

On Jan 20, 2020 09:59am, Kurt Weiske wrote to Ward Dossche:

Re: Re: 3:770/1
By: Ward Dossche to David Drummond on Mon Jan 20 2020 08:03 am

I think it would be hard to drive 250 km along any highway here and not WD>> be
in at least one other country ... or at the bottom of the sea.

Which is why the America genre of the "road trip" film doesn't map well
to European cinema. You could drive two days and still be in Texas!
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Terry

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
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Hi! Tony,

On 01/22/2020 12:11 PM, you wrote:

I'm 150km from Melbourne, that distance it
barely shows on a map of Oz. :)

Just down the road a bit. I thought Bendigo was an outer suburb of
Melbourne. ;)

Haha how insulting. :P

Oh, bummer. I really liked Melbourne, in all of my travels. (It was my favourite town till I found Perth.) There again, I did Melbourne during a -lost- long weekend...

A group of guys from work took me along as a fourth for a 'sports' weekend, on a train trip sampling all the beers from three states to get there. (I wasn't a beer drinker then and still don't care for it, 50 years later.) The lost weekend was a persistent pissy blur.

Cheers,
Paul.

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I think it would be hard to drive 250 km along any highway here and PA>WD> not be in at least one other country ... or at the bottom of the sea.

Untrue. A certain REC then, RC, now drove 500+Km just to have dinner with
a ZC and 500+ back. Still in the same EU country :)

That was a memorable event ... I remember the beer too ... :-)

The Saint George Lyccabettus hotel was where we first met ... will never forget it.

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It's a little under 2 hours to Melbourne by car or train.

2 hours by car in any direction and I'm out of the country ... Netherlands, France, Germany, Luxembourg. 3 hours and I'm in England.

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On 01-22-20 10:05, Ward Dossche wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

It's a little under 2 hours to Melbourne by car or train.

2 hours by car in any direction and I'm out of the country ... Netherlands, France, Germany, Luxembourg. 3 hours and I'm in England.

Here, you can't even drive to all state without getting wet (though the Melbourne to Devonport ferry is funded as a 400km stretch of the "national highway", meaning really good subsidies for putting your car on the ferry.

But going north or west, you can drive for _days_ at highway speeds without reaching the ocean. :)

From here, 2 hours south won't even get you to the coast (that's at least 30 minutes further). 2 hours roughly SE will get you just past the centre of Melbourne. 2 hours east and you're in the foothills below the ski resorts (another couple of hours at least to get to ski). 2 hours north will actually get you to another state (NSW) and in the middle of a featureless plain. 2 hours west and less than halfway to the western state border with South Australia. :)


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On 21/01/2020 16:01, 3640/1384.125 wrote:

 TL>> I'm 150km from Melbourne, that distance it
 TL>> barely shows on a map of Oz. :)

Just down the road a bit.  I thought Bendigo was an outer suburb of Melbourne.  ;)

It is - for certain values of "outer".

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On 22/01/2020 11:05, 2292/854 wrote:

It's a little under 2 hours to Melbourne by car or train.

2 hours by car in any direction and I'm out of the country ... Netherlands, France, Germany, Luxembourg. 3 hours and I'm in England.

And what is the population of Belgium who are paying to maintain/update that infrastructure of the country?

(Yeah, I know I could Google it).

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On 23/01/2020 11:31, 3633/410 wrote:

 WD>> 2 hours by car in any direction and I'm out of the country ...
 WD>> Netherlands, France, Germany, Luxembourg. 3 hours and I'm in England.

Here, you can't even drive to all state without getting wet (though the Melbourne to Devonport ferry is funded as a 400km stretch of the "national highway", meaning really good subsidies for putting your car on the ferry.

But going north or west, you can drive for _days_ at highway speeds

without

reaching the ocean. :)

From here, 2 hours south won't even get you to the coast (that's at least

30

minutes further).  2 hours roughly SE will get you just past the centre

of

Melbourne.  2 hours east and you're in the foothills below the ski

resorts

(another couple of hours at least to get to ski).  2 hours north will

actually

get you to another state (NSW) and in the middle of a featureless plain. 

2

hours west and less than halfway to the western state border with South Australia. :)

Isn't VIC the smallest state in Australia.

Try the above measurements in QLD, or WA...

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2 hours by car in any direction and I'm out of the country ...
Netherlands, France, Germany, Luxembourg. 3 hours and I'm in
England.

And what is the population of Belgium who are paying to maintain/update that infrastructure of the country?

Actually that type of road-infrastructure is a European thing. There is a network of what is called E-highways which stems from a very early EU-decision in the 1950-ies to build a European-wide network for the long-distance transport of goods. It now looks like this ...

https://tinyurl.com/uwddsbf

By staying on the same road you can drive from Lisbon (Portugal) to Malmo (Sweden) and be treated to some of the most wonderful traffic jams in the world.

As especially Belgium is heavy burdened by these roads I'm assuming there must be some kind of a cost-sharing situation between EU-states, but I'm unaware.

8 more days and that map changes.

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Untrue. A certain REC then, RC, now drove 500+Km just to have dinner

with

a ZC and 500+ back. Still in the same EU country :)

That was a memorable event ... I remember the beer too ... :-)

The Saint George Lyccabettus hotel was where we first met ... will never forget it.

I remember the food. I did not drink as I had to drive back same night...

I should visit Brussels sometime this year so we will have one or more of these famous belgian beers :)

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I remember the food. I did not drink as I had to drive back same night...

I remember the weather was really bad.

There often were issues with your RC, after we met face-to-face we were OK. Not a single issue anymore.

I should visit Brussels sometime this year so we will have one or more of these famous belgian beers :)

Let me know well in tine. It is possible and Brussels is like 40km.

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On 25 Jan 20 00:49:29, Ward Dossche said the following to Petros Argyrakis:

I should visit Brussels sometime this year so we will have one or more of these famous belgian beers :)

Let me know well in tine. It is possible and Brussels is like 40km.

Yet you make every freaking excuse not to come to Toronto... with offers of horse-piss beer and the largest chicken wings at the most shitty sports bar in town.

Nick

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Hello Kurt!

20 Jan 20 09:51, Kurt Weiske wrote to Ward Dossche:

I think it would be hard to drive 250 km along any highway here and
not be in at least one other country ... or at the bottom of the sea.

Which is why the America genre of the "road trip" film doesn't map
well to European cinema. You could drive two days and still be in
Texas!

Ah, well, the genre may have been invented in the US, but there certainly are European road movies. Probably they don't get much coverage in the US, or are rather "remade" for US viewers than dubbed or brought into the cinemas as original versions.
Anyway, here are a few random examples from Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knockin%27_on_Heaven%27s_Door_(1997_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_the_Cities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Sharks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_July_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Wants_to_Sea https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_km/h https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_gegen_den_Rest_der_Welt


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Ward!

20 Jan 20 21:47, Ward Dossche wrote to Kurt Weiske:

On the other hand, you can do roadtrips too here ... I can drive to Moscow, Russia while you can drive only to Moscow, Idaho ... :-)

You can also "downscale" the whole thing by reducing the maximum velocity. Was 25km/h brought into Belgian cinemas (one or two years ago)?


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Ward!

22 Jan 20 10:05, Ward Dossche wrote to Tony Langdon:

2 hours by car in any direction and I'm out of the country ... Netherlands, France, Germany, Luxembourg. 3 hours and I'm in England.

Having so many different countries so close together offers a lot of new opportunities, though.

Ever heard of Jeff Aug? He's holding the official record for performing concerts in more different countries within 24h than anyone else: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-concerts-performed-in- different-countries-in-24-hours/

He is from the US, but of course he couldn't achieve this over there. ;)


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Ward and others,

Sat. 18 Jan 2020, 14:09:38, Ward Dossche wrote to Paul Hayton:

What? Power poles? How primitive ...

Many countries still have them, yours too.

Henri.

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Gerrit,

On the other hand, you can do roadtrips too here ... I can drive to GK>WD> Moscow, Russia while you can drive only to Moscow, Idaho ... :-)

You can also "downscale" the whole thing by reducing the maximum
velocity. Was 25km/h brought into Belgian cinemas (one or two years ago)?

I think I don't understand what you're hinting at.

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On 26 Jan 20 21:29:49, Ward Dossche said the following to Gerrit Kuehn:

You can also "downscale" the whole thing by reducing the maximum
velocity. Was 25km/h brought into Belgian cinemas (one or two years ago)?

I think I don't understand what you're hinting at.

Belgian porn? Two hours of begging?

Nick

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You can also "downscale" the whole thing by reducing the maximum
velocity. Was 25km/h brought into Belgian cinemas (one or two years NA>GK> ago)?

I think I don't understand what you're hinting at.

Belgian porn? Two hours of begging?

Nah ... that's foreplay.

\%/@rd

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Hello Ward!

26 Jan 20 21:29, Ward Dossche wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

You can also "downscale" the whole thing by reducing the maximum
velocity. Was 25km/h brought into Belgian cinemas (one or two years
ago)?

I think I don't understand what you're hinting at.

A German roadmovie named "25km/h" from 2018 or 2019 (cannot remember exactly) where the main characters used Mofas (top speed: 25km/h) for their trip.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Gerrit,

I think I don't understand what you're hinting at.

A German roadmovie named "25km/h" from 2018 or 2019 (cannot remember exactly) where the main characters used Mofas (top speed: 25km/h) for
their trip.

I don't think such a movie has been released here ...

Just looked-up the theatrical trailer ... it seems like fun.

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Hello Ward!

27 Jan 20 22:54, Ward Dossche wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

I don't think such a movie has been released here ...
Just looked-up the theatrical trailer ... it seems like fun.

I cannot really tell, I didn't see anything of it beyond the trailers so far, either. But it sure sounded like fun.


Regards,
Gerrit

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I should visit Brussels sometime this year so we will have one or

more of

these famous belgian beers :)

Let me know well in tine. It is possible and Brussels is like 40km.

Will do.

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Hi guys

I have moved the 3:770/1 HUB from FastEcho, Allfix and BinkD across to a combo of HPT, Htick and BinkD. I've also migrated from a Windows system to Linux.

I expect there will be a few wobbles along the way. If you spot anything
amiss please let me know.

Cheers, Paul

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PAUL HAYTON wrote to ALL <=-

Hi guys

I have moved the 3:770/1 HUB from FastEcho, Allfix and BinkD across to
a combo
of HPT, Htick and BinkD. I've also migrated from a Windows system to Linux.

I expect there will be a few wobbles along the way. If you spot
anything amiss please let me know.

Cheers, Paul

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Great work! I'll let you know If I see anything.

Nick
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On 31 Jan 2021 at 08:17p, Nick Mackechnie pondered and said...

Great work! I'll let you know If I see anything.

Nick

Thanks Nick.

It's a been a long time coming.

The feed and files should be status quo and once bedded in I'll seek to
extend the offering.

Just working on getting nodelist compilation sorted now.

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Hi! Paul,

On 31 Jan 21 20:28, you wrote to Nick Mackechnie:

Just working on getting nodelist compilation sorted now.

Are you doing R57 daily segments?

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi Paul!

31 Jan 2021 19:23, from Paul Hayton -> All:

I have moved the 3:770/1 HUB from FastEcho, Allfix and BinkD across to
a combo of HPT, Htick and BinkD. I've also migrated from a Windows
system to Linux.

What editor are you using?
Anyway ... congratulation!

I expect there will be a few wobbles along the way. If you spot
anything amiss please let me know.

All looks fine!

CU, Ricsi

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On 31 Jan 2021 at 06:03p, Paul Quinn pondered and said...

Just working on getting nodelist compilation sorted now.

Are you doing R57 daily segments?

Not as yet, but give me a few weeks and I may well be :)

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On 31 Jan 2021 at 10:11a, Richard Menedetter pondered and said...

What editor are you using?

None, I'll likely aim to set up GoldEd but first I'm just trying to get the echomail, netmail and file bases working as expected. :)

Anyway ... congratulation!

Thanks :)

All looks fine!

Cheers... I hope that the zone gating / stripping stuff FastEcho did can now be a thing of the past for this system.

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Hi Paul!

31 Jan 2021 22:27, from Paul Hayton -> Richard Menedetter:

What editor are you using?

None, I'll likely aim to set up GoldEd but first I'm just trying to
get the echomail, netmail and file bases working as expected. :)

One step after the other ;)

All looks fine!

Cheers... I hope that the zone gating / stripping stuff FastEcho did
can now be a thing of the past for this system.

HPT should handle it better.

CU, Ricsi

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Hi! Paul,

On 31 Jan 2021, Paul Hayton said the following...

Are you doing R57 daily segments?

Not as yet, but give me a few weeks and I may well be :)

Crikey! I've been doing them for R54 since July 2018. In both DOS/Windows & Linux.

Call when you want... whatever,

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 31 Jan 2021 at 08:17p, Nick Mackechnie pondered and said...

Great work! I'll let you know If I see anything.

Folks, apologies. I ran a re-toss process at 3:770/1 and it's sent out some older packets that were unintended. Apologies if I've sent out some dupes.

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Hello Paul!

31 Aug 21 15:52, you wrote to all:

Folks, apologies. I ran a re-toss process at 3:770/1 and it's sent out some older packets that were unintended. Apologies if I've sent out
some dupes.

2665 went into my bad area, some dating back to 2020 (That was a year to remember).
The rest went into the dupe area.... not as many....


Try using the -tooold 60 (Day number) for your config...





Stephen


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On 31 Aug 2021, Paul Hayton said the following...

Folks, apologies. I ran a re-toss process at 3:770/1 and it's sent out some older packets that were unintended. Apologies if I've sent out some

I was wondering. Caught a bunch in my dupes folder that looked like they all came from here. Didn't check the seen-bys or anything as it looked like they were all caught anyway.

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On 31 Aug 2021 at 04:52p, Stephen Walsh pondered and said...

2665 went into my bad area, some dating back to 2020 (That was a year to remember).
The rest went into the dupe area.... not as many....

It was me trying to retoss some packets in BAD that I wanted to retoss but
not realising it would deal to others too :(

I've removed them now out of BAD

Try using the -tooold 60 (Day number) for your config...

Yep use that too - thanks!

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On 31 Aug 2021 at 07:25p, Richard Miles pondered and said...

I was wondering. Caught a bunch in my dupes folder that looked like they all came from here. Didn't check the seen-bys or anything as it looked like they were all caught anyway.

Coolio, thanks Richard :)

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