• Khontrol.

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Mon Nov 14 15:49:38 2022
    Hello Alan,

    [..]

    I gave up on that a long time ago. If you write something in echomail,
    it's into the wild and you have no khontrol, even routed metmail. You still
    have the idiots that love to read everything in-transit...

    It's not about Khontrol, it's simply a place for sysops to discuss what they want to discuss with other sysops.

    Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

    A meeting is when people get together for any reason. An echo is
    an area for people to get together, for any reason. You have stated
    yourself this is such an echo - a place for sysops to discuss what
    they want to discuss with other sysops.

    So far, so good. That is a concept I believe all can agree on.

    But that is not the question.

    What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
    Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

    When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
    called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

    The word comes from Middle English, and originally referred to a
    designated hunting station.

    But every time they try to gather, somebody lets the sunshine in,
    and we all know what happens next.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Alan Ianson on Mon Nov 14 21:53:30 2022
    When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
    called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

    I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or sneaking anything.

    You got it wrong, Lee was talking about 'sneeking', not 'sneaking' ... surely there must be a difference ...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Nov 14 12:22:06 2022
    It's not about Khontrol, it's simply a place for sysops to discuss what
    they want to discuss with other sysops.

    Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

    What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

    A meeting is when people get together for any reason. An echo is
    an area for people to get together, for any reason. You have stated
    yourself this is such an echo - a place for sysops to discuss what
    they want to discuss with other sysops.

    So far, so good. That is a concept I believe all can agree on.

    Good.

    But that is not the question.

    I see a deflection coming on.

    What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
    Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

    We are not meeting in secret. We are having a discussion amongst ourselves.

    When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
    called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

    I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or sneaking anything.

    The word comes from Middle English, and originally referred to a
    designated hunting station.

    There is no hunt.

    But every time they try to gather, somebody lets the sunshine in,
    and we all know what happens next.

    No, the echo is leaking. You are not the first leak and you won't be the last.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Ward Dossche on Mon Nov 14 13:41:18 2022
    Ward Dossche wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
    called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

    I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or sneaking anything.

    You got it wrong, Lee was talking about 'sneeking', not 'sneaking' ... surely there must be a difference ...

    Yes, he "snuck" that one in on me.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Alan Ianson on Mon Nov 14 23:21:38 2022
    You got it wrong, Lee was talking about 'sneeking', not 'sneaking' AI>WD> ... surely there must be a difference ...

    Yes, he "snuck" that one in on me.

    It just means I need a beer ...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Nov 14 16:16:42 2022
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
    Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

    Why is that a problem?


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Tue Nov 15 17:23:52 2022
    Hello Alan,

    It's not about Khontrol, it's simply a place for sysops to discuss what
    they want to discuss with other sysops.

    Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

    What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

    Only the kind that fools believe.

    A meeting is when people get together for any reason. An echo is
    an area for people to get together, for any reason. You have stated
    yourself this is such an echo - a place for sysops to discuss what
    they want to discuss with other sysops.

    So far, so good. That is a concept I believe all can agree on.

    Good.

    Sysops are able to do that now. in this echo, and elsewhere.
    And yet, you claim not to be a happy camper.

    But that is not the question.

    I see a deflection coming on.

    Not at all.

    What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
    Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

    We are not meeting in secret. We are having a discussion amongst ourselves.

    With others present. Which is what your gripe is, and of which
    you have been unable to explain why.

    When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
    called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

    I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or
    sneaking anything.

    My apologies for the typo. The word is "seeking" - as it is very
    clear there are others aside from sysops who are present in this echo.

    The word comes from Middle English, and originally referred to a
    designated hunting station.

    There is no hunt.

    The word "tryst" means "a designated hunting station" - not that
    there is necessarily anything to hunt or worth hunting.

    IOW, a place to meet, in secret, to do things only sysops would want
    to do amongst themselves.

    But every time they try to gather, somebody lets the sunshine in,
    and we all know what happens next.

    No, the echo is leaking. You are not the first leak and you won't be the last.

    Do you beat your meat?

    Be honest.
    You're a guy.

    But to do it as a group ...
    With others watching ...

    Now that is what I call the greatest show on earth!

    Even though nobody could beat Jim Morrison's act ...

    "I can do anything!" ~Jim Morrison

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Nov 16 15:59:46 2022
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

    What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

    Only the kind that fools believe.

    Since you seem to be the only one that believes it, I would have to agree
    with you regarding fools.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Nov 16 19:25:46 2022
    Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

    What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

    Only the kind that fools believe.

    Apparently.

    I see a deflection coming on.

    Not at all.

    It was/is simply delection.

    With others present. Which is what your gripe is, and of which
    you have been unable to explain why.

    I have explained it simply and completely

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Sun Dec 4 18:37:22 2022
    Hello Mike,

    What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
    Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

    Why is that a problem?

    Not everybody agrees with Vladimir Putin. Or with Mike Powell.
    But if you adore Putin, and love secrecy, please feel free to move
    to Russia. Steven Seagal did. And he loves it.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Dec 6 16:04:08 2022
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
    Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

    Why is that a problem?

    Not everybody agrees with Vladimir Putin. Or with Mike Powell.
    But if you adore Putin, and love secrecy, please feel free to move
    to Russia. Steven Seagal did. And he loves it.

    Nor apparently with Joe Biden, who also knows that there are some
    government things that are not for public consumption. But maybe Lee
    Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not understand such things and likes to make trouble. That would make sense.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tue Dec 13 22:38:32 2022
    Hello Mike,

    What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
    Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

    Why is that a problem?

    Not everybody agrees with Vladimir Putin. Or with Mike Powell.
    But if you adore Putin, and love secrecy, please feel free to move
    to Russia. Steven Seagal did. And he loves it.

    Nor apparently with Joe Biden, who also knows that there are some government things that are not for public consumption.

    I do not know about Joe Biden. But there is one thing I do know
    about Steven Seagal - he and his film crew love pizza. Especially
    pizza made in the French Quarter, on Bourbon Street. Bill Clinton
    and Helmut Kohl preferred Caf‚ du Monde, where both made pigs of
    themselves in public.

    But maybe Lee Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not understand such things and likes to make trouble.

    The entity known as Lee Lofaso is a figment of somebody's wild
    and overactive imagination. The entity that calls itself Donald
    Trump is a stable genius that only he himelf truly understands.

    That would make sense.

    You said it. Not me.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Dec 13 21:05:00 2022
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    But maybe Lee Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not understand such things and likes to make trouble.

    The entity known as Lee Lofaso is a figment of somebody's wild
    and overactive imagination.

    Yes, we all know that, Beeeorn.


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Dec 14 18:28:00 2022
    I replaced some fluorescent bulbs recently and found LED tubes - they're the same form factor, but inside are a line of LEDs. They lightg up quickly and don't flicker like fluorescents do.


    When I took over the shop, the previous installation had a
    series of 8ft-long and 4ft-long fluorescent T12's. When some of
    the transformers started to fail after 2 or years of my
    occupation, I had all the T12's changed to support T8's. That
    was 7 years ago. Now, some of those "new" instant-start
    transformers are failing. I am at the point where direct-wire
    LED tubes would be a more welcoming solution. But the 8ft-ers
    cost about $32 a piece. I would need about 24.

    I am not sure if I've seen any other retail space using LED
    lighting exclusively.

    I've gone through at least a handful of T12 fluorescents, in my
    first couple of years of operation, and then even MORE T8's
    later on. At about $20 a piece, they could add up.

    But the LED variety cost even more.

    Which kind did you settle with? Direct-wire types, or the ones
    that work with the existing ballast?

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to August Abolins on Thu Dec 15 01:15:48 2022
    At about $20 a piece, they could add up.

    But the LED variety cost even more.

    I bought mine (60 cm T8) from AliExpress for about 5 EUR each (free shipping). They were connected so that all I had to do was remove the starter. Removing the ballast is optional.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32797875292.html



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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Björn Felten on Wed Dec 14 20:12:00 2022
    Hello Bj”rn Felten!

    ** On Thursday 15.12.22 - 01:15, Bj”rn Felten wrote to August Abolins:

    I bought mine (60 cm T8) from AliExpress for about 5 EUR each (free shipping). They were connected so that all I had to do was remove the starter. Removing the ballast is optional.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32797875292.html


    I thought ballast=starter. So, it looks like you got "direct-
    wire" types. That's the way to go.

    I'm surprised that those tubes have "holes" for cooling. I
    didn't think they would heat up at all.

    Mine need to be brighter. I have a 12-14 ft high ceiling.
    And I need 4ft and 8ft types.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Sun Dec 25 14:28:24 2022
    Hello Dan,

    But maybe Lee Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not
    understand such things and likes to make trouble.

    The entity known as Lee Lofaso is a figment of somebody's wild
    and overactive imagination.

    Yes, we all know that, Beeeorn.

    Speak for yourself -

    https://www.41051.com/xmaslyrics/grinch.html


    Merry Fucking Christmas,
    Lee

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