• FILEGATE.ZXX updates

    From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Janis Kracht on Tue Jun 14 18:58:36 2022
    Hello Janis!

    Monday June 13 2022 14:45, you wrote to me:

    * Originally posted in the FILEGATE echo
    * Originally posted to Vincent Coen by Janis Kracht
    * CC'd in netmail to Ward Dossche for his perusal and comment,
    please.

    Hello Vincent!

    Saturday June 11 2022 13:42, you wrote to me:

    **** The IFDC FileGate is Copyright by Janis Kracht
    ****
    **** The IFDC FileGate LOGO Image is Copyright by Janis Kracht
    ****
    **** The IFDC FileGate system's file archive located in
    ****
    **** Slaterville Springs NY, USA, is copyright Janis Kracht
    ****

    Your point ?

    I've worked with international copyright law for quite some time since
    I needed to do so in working with so many authors, Vincent.

    1. Some of the above is not and cannot be copyright.
    2. I have never made use of any logo's including any possible filegate's one's
    which I have never seen.
    3. See 1. You cannot copyright a geographical address otherwise Google would be
    all over it.

    Filegate you now say is copyright but all documentations at best within Filegate shows only SM. That is NOT a trademark NOR copyright and is not International as it is not in the United Kingdom.

    If you wish to quote the law you need to be very precise and accurate and the above comments are NOT.

    Not that I care one way or another.

    Here are some other statements you obviously ignore, which I can
    prove:

    I resigned Fidonet for two months, but did NOT resign as moderator
    (msg. echos: PDNECHO, FILEGATE, BBBS-ENGLISH, PRISM, RAR, FILE_MOVERS)
    and I did not resign as moderator/coordinator of a number of _file_
    echos (PDN, RAR for example). You just _took_ those file echos without
    even an email.

    You resigned, period.

    Now a few months later your reappeared slightly but with no information or content as to what was / is happening with you.

    During that time the members of the "Star" system took over and kept the system
    for both files and echo's running expending a great deal of time during a normally very busy holiday period for some of us.


    THEN: _YOU_ gave me exact instructions on HOW to correct these msg.
    area moderatorship errors so that your lists would reflect me as moderator/coordinator. This involved my creating 3 copies of your TAGNAME.ECO files for the msg. echos, delivered directly to your
    2:25/21 node... Which I DID.

    Supposedly I would retain the position of modertor of those msg.
    echos, but

    **It DID NOT WORK (look at your inane lists, Vincent)**
    *This says something about your credibility, Vincent*

    I supplied you precise instructions of how to do so the fact that you more than
    likely did not follow them is I am afraid down to you.

    Now, you and I discussed the idea along the way that you were knocking yourself out so to speak with all the "jobs" you are doing, and I
    offered to help out ... but then I saw the most recent of your
    BACKBONE.NA, and filegate.zxx files (filegate.zxx is MY ORIGINAL
    DOCUMENT, NOT YOURS. This is covered under copyright laws regarding Intellectual Property in the United States. If you want to use such a
    list come up with your OWN name! Same with the FileGate Distribution,
    come up with your OWN name!!)

    What would I like to resolve at least SOME OF THIS CRAP VINCE??

    1. Give me back my msg. echos as listed above. And don't tell me to
    create some idiotic .ECO files or whatever, just make the f'n changes already.

    You must follow the correct elist procedures.

    2. Give me back the PDN and Rar file distribution. The PDN has never
    been the victim of a takeover like you pulled off here...

    Rar was abandoned for some considerable time so I starting looking after it and
    yes spending some valuable time to do so.
    You wish it back - fine I care not - providing you keep on top of it!



    If, you warn to take back operations for FILEGATE and or any other processes that you did have prior to 29th December 2021 let me know.

    I am getting to 75 in June 23rd so I can think of other stuff that can take up my time although that said, the filegate is now very light traffic but it was the same when you had it.

    As for various echo's, suggest you send in file submissions for each area
    after advising me that your wish to do so for each area that is in the Elist moderator lists.

    These submissions must be sent to 2:25/21.

    I WILL NOT change them for you or any one else otherwise I will get a flood of requests to do similar for others.

    The Elist system is now on it's own platform and nodelist entry and run in full
    auto mode so file submissions are the only way for mods to deal with it.

    Failing that, I will allow all such areas to lapse to revert to backbone status
    only.

    Should you take these processes back I will NOT be your back up should you again shut down, close services or for any other reason.

    As Mark, Terry, Carol and Dallas and myself had to spend considerable time dealing with the fall out, over your very short notice of termination of all services !


    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Janis Kracht on Wed Jun 15 21:44:26 2022
    Hello Janis!

    Monday June 13 2022 14:45, you wrote to me:

    * Originally posted in the FILEGATE echo
    * Originally posted to Vincent Coen by Janis Kracht
    * CC'd in netmail to Ward Dossche for his perusal and comment,
    please.

    Hello Vincent!

    Saturday June 11 2022 13:42, you wrote to me:

    **** The IFDC FileGate is Copyright by Janis Kracht
    ****
    **** The IFDC FileGate LOGO Image is Copyright by Janis Kracht
    ****
    **** The IFDC FileGate system's file archive located in
    ****
    **** Slaterville Springs NY, USA, is copyright Janis Kracht
    ****

    Your point ?

    I resigned Fidonet for two months, but did NOT resign as moderator
    (msg. echos: PDNECHO, FILEGATE, BBBS-ENGLISH, PRISM, RAR, FILE_MOVERS)
    and I did not resign as moderator/coordinator of a number of _file_
    echos (PDN, RAR for example). You just _took_ those file echos without
    even an email.

    Two months is a LONG time in Fido.

    In any event you are the mod for
    BBBS.ENGLISH
    PRISM
    RAR



    The areas PDNECHO and FILE_MOVERS are now in your name but the entry is or has expired so you will have to submit updates.



    THEN: _YOU_ gave me exact instructions on HOW to correct these msg.
    area moderatorship errors so that your lists would reflect me as moderator/coordinator. This involved my creating 3 copies of your TAGNAME.ECO files for the msg. echos, delivered directly to your
    2:25/21 node... Which I DID.

    Supposedly I would retain the position of modertor of those msg.
    echos, but

    **It DID NOT WORK (look at your inane lists, Vincent)**
    *This says something about your credibility, Vincent*

    Now, you and I discussed the idea along the way that you were knocking yourself out so to speak with all the "jobs" you are doing, and I
    offered to help out ... but then I saw the most recent of your
    BACKBONE.NA, and filegate.zxx files (filegate.zxx is MY ORIGINAL
    DOCUMENT, NOT YOURS. This is covered under copyright laws regarding Intellectual Property in the United States. If you want to use such a
    list come up with your OWN name! Same with the FileGate Distribution,
    come up with your OWN name!!)

    Here you are totally wrong there is NO copyright on FILEGATE.ZXX or not registered at the US Copyright and Patents (dept) that I could trace but in any
    case I has to take such over only for the file in order to try and keep it up to date after you LEFT as per your mails on 29th December 2021.

    I do have better thing to do than take over all the many other areas on, after
    you quit.


    What would I like to resolve at least SOME OF THIS CRAP VINCE??

    1. Give me back my msg. echos as listed above. And don't tell me to
    create some idiotic .ECO files or whatever, just make the f'n changes already.

    2. Give me back the PDN and Rar file distribution. The PDN has never
    been the victim of a takeover like you pulled off here...

    And... All of the above are "MY" point, Vincent.
    It is truly a shame what is going on here. Janis


    Confirm what FDN's you wish to look after and I will have the FILEGATE.ZXX list
    updated or transferred from inactive.txt.

    So advise, soon !

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)