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  • Test from The Pot O'Gold

    From The Leprechaun@1:229/426.52 to All on Mon Mar 29 11:13:56 2021
    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: The Pot O'Gold - bbs.thepotogold.net:4888 (1:229/426.52)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to The Leprechaun on Mon Mar 29 23:42:00 2021
    Hi, The!

    29 мар 21 11:13, The Leprechaun -> All:

    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: The Pot O'Gold - bbs.thepotogold.net:4888 (1:229/426.52) SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/36 80/1 90/1 103/705 105/81 114/705 120/340 123/120 131 SEEN-BY: 124/5016 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 6 226/17 30 227/114 229/101 200
    SEEN-BY: 229/424 426 452 550 664 700 1016 1017 240/5832 249/206 307 317 400
    SEEN-BY: 250/5 8 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 288/100 292/854 8125 SEEN-BY: 298/25 305/3 310/31 317/3 322/757 340/1000 342/200 396/45 423/120 SEEN-BY: 460/58 256 777 1124 5858 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 772/210 220 230
    SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4600/140 5054/30
    @PATH: 229/426 317/3 770/1 280/464 460/58

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Экономия - это искусство тратить деньги, не получая никакого удовольствия.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to The Leprechaun on Tue Mar 30 07:15:24 2021
    Hi, The!

    29 мар 21 11:37, The Leprechaun -> All:

    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    No @MSGID kludge. Bad message.

    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: The Pot O'Gold - bbs.thepotogold.net:4888 (1:229/426.52) SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/36 80/1 90/1 103/705 105/81 114/705 120/340 123/120 131 SEEN-BY: 124/5016 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 6 226/17 30 227/114 229/101 200
    SEEN-BY: 229/424 426 452 550 664 700 1016 1017 240/5832 249/206 307 317 400
    SEEN-BY: 250/5 8 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 288/100 292/854 8125 SEEN-BY: 298/25 305/3 310/31 317/3 322/757 340/1000 342/200 396/45 423/120 SEEN-BY: 460/58 256 777 1124 5858 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 772/210 220 230
    SEEN-BY: 2452/250 4600/140 5054/30
    @PATH: 229/426 317/3 770/1 280/464 460/58

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to The Leprechaun on Tue Mar 30 08:26:06 2021
    Hi The!

    29 Mar 2021 11:13, from The Leprechaun -> All:

    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/36 80/1 90/1 103/705 105/81 114/705 120/340 123/120 SEEN-BY: 123/131 124/5016 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 226/17 30 227/114 SEEN-BY: 229/101 200 424 426 452 550 664 700 1016 1017 240/5832
    249/206
    SEEN-BY: 249/307 317 400 250/5 8 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 SEEN-BY: 288/100 292/854 8125 298/25 305/3 310/31 317/3 322/757
    340/1000
    SEEN-BY: 342/200 396/45 423/120 460/58 712/848 770/1 100 330 340
    772/210
    SEEN-BY: 772/220 230 2452/250
    @PATH: 229/426 317/3 770/1 280/464

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to The Leprechaun on Tue Mar 30 07:58:48 2021
    Hello The.

    29 Mar 21 11:13, you wrote to All:

    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: The Pot O'Gold - bbs.thepotogold.net:4888 (1:229/426.52) SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/36 31/123 80/1 90/1 103/705 105/81 114/705 120/340 123/120
    SEEN-BY: 123/131 124/5016 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 1 226/17 30
    227/114
    SEEN-BY: 229/101 200 424 426 452 550 664 700 1016 1017 240/1120 1634
    1895
    SEEN-BY: 240/5832 8002 8005 249/206 307 317 400 250/5 8 261/38 267/800 SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 288/100 292/854 8125 298/25 305/3 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 313/41 317/3 322/757 335/364 340/1000 342/200 371/52 380/5 382/147
    SEEN-BY: 396/45 423/120 460/58 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 772/210 220
    230
    SEEN-BY: 2452/250
    @PATH: 229/426 317/3 770/1 280/464 310/31 313/41 240/1120

    Daniel

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to The Leprechaun on Tue Mar 30 09:51:20 2021
    Hi The,

    No realname.

    No kludge lines.

    And I got it twice with a different timestamp the second time. Or actually 6 times. Each one got 2 dupes, but that's ok.


    On 2021-03-29 11:13:57, you wrote to All:

    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: The Pot O'Gold - bbs.thepotogold.net:4888 (1:229/426.52) SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/36 80/1 90/1 103/705 105/81 114/705 120/340 123/120 SEEN-BY: 123/131 124/5016 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 226/17 30 227/114 SEEN-BY: 229/101 200 424 426 452 550 664 700 1016 1017 240/5832
    249/206
    SEEN-BY: 249/307 317 400 250/5 8 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 SEEN-BY: 288/100 292/854 8125 298/25 305/3 310/31 317/3 322/757
    340/1000
    SEEN-BY: 342/200 396/45 423/120 460/58 712/848 770/1 100 330 340
    772/210
    SEEN-BY: 772/220 230 2452/250
    @PATH: 229/426 317/3 770/1 280/464

    On 2021-03-29 11:37:42, you wrote to All:

    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    --- D'Bridge 4
    * Origin: The Pot O'Gold - bbs.thepotogold.net:4888 (1:229/426.52) SEEN-BY: 1/123 19/36 80/1 90/1 103/705 105/81 114/705 120/340 123/120 SEEN-BY: 123/131 124/5016 154/10 203/0 220/70 221/0 226/17 30 227/114 SEEN-BY: 229/101 200 424 426 452 550 664 700 1016 1017 240/5832 249/206 SEEN-BY: 249/307 317 400 250/5 8 267/800 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 SEEN-BY: 288/100 292/854 8125 298/25 305/3 310/31 317/3 322/757 340/1000 SEEN-BY: 342/200 396/45 423/120 460/58 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 772/210 SEEN-BY: 772/220 230 2452/250
    @PATH: 229/426 317/3 770/1 280/464

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Mar 30 03:03:06 2021
    Re: Re: Test from The Pot O'Gold
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to The Leprechaun on Tue Mar 30 2021 09:51 am

    And I got it twice with a different timestamp the second time. Or actually 6 times. Each one got 2 dupes, but that's ok.

    I also got several copies. The dupes are OK but there should not be messages with different time stamps.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Warranty (n.): See Disclaimer.
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Mar 30 05:52:42 2021
    Re: Re: Test from The Pot O'Gold
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Alan Ianson on Tue Mar 30 2021 12:11 pm

    I also got several copies. The dupes are OK but there should not be
    messages with different time stamps.

    That depends on if they were deliberately sent that way by the OP. ;)

    I don't think it was deliberate but the second copy with the modified date passed dupe checking here.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to mark lewis on Tue Mar 30 15:10:16 2021
    Hi mark,

    On 2021-03-30 08:51:07, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I also got several copies. The dupes are OK but there should not be
    messages with different time stamps.

    remember that systems using squish are limited to two second granularity...
    some squish tossers modify the time stamp in transit rather than only in their local base... i say this assuming the differences in the time stamps is the other dupes with the different time stamp have their seconds as multiples of two...

    This wasn't the case. The time difference was much bigger:

    2021-03-29 11:13:57
    2021-03-29 11:37:42


    Btw: I don't think d'Bridge (the system of the OP) can use a squish message base.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to mark lewis on Tue Mar 30 06:12:42 2021
    Re: Re: Test from The Pot O'Gold
    By: mark lewis to Alan Ianson on Tue Mar 30 2021 08:51 am

    remember that systems using squish are limited to two second granularity... some squish tossers modify the time stamp in transit rather than only in their local base... i say this assuming the differences in the time stamps is the other dupes with the different time stamp have their seconds as multiples of two...

    The two copies I have in my message base are identical except for the time. They contain the same path and seen bys.

    The first message I have is 29 Mar 21 11:13:56 and the second is 29 Mar 21 11:37:42. I recieved both of them on 29 Mar 21 13:12:20.

    How we ended up with two different time stamps, I'm not sure.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... "It appears to be a tagline of unknown origin." - Spock
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to mark lewis on Tue Mar 30 16:41:36 2021
    Hello mark,

    On Tuesday March 30 2021 08:48, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    No @MSGID kludge. Bad message.

    MSGID is not required by FTN specs... please don't promote wrong information by saying the message is "bad"...

    The fact that something is not formally required does not necesarilly make it not bad if it is missing.

    Here in The Netherlands rear view mirrors are not required for motorcycles. But I would not drive one without at least a left rear view mirror. No rear vieuw mirror -> bad.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to mark lewis on Tue Mar 30 18:15:00 2021
    Hi, mark!

    30 мар 21 08:48, mark lewis -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    Jst a quick test to FidoNet.

    No @MSGID kludge. Bad message.

    MSGID is not required by FTN specs... please don't promote wrong information by saying the message is "bad"...

    http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-0009.001 No?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Andy Gorman@1:229/426.52 to Alan Ianson on Tue Mar 30 12:15:48 2021
    |03Quoting message from |11Alan Ianson |03to |11Wilfred Van Velzen
    |03on |1130 Mar 21 05:52:43|03.

    Re: Re: Test from The Pot O'Gold
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Alan Ianson on Tue Mar 30 2021 12:11 pm

    I also got several copies. The dupes are OK but there should not be
    messages with different time stamps.

    That depends on if they were deliberately sent that way by the OP. ;)

    I don't think it was deliberate but the second copy with the modified date passed dupe checking here.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


    It wasn't on purpose but I was having issues getting the mailer to send out any messages, so I ended up seding it multiple times. I've got that sorted out now (and will fix the real name and kludge line issues shortly). Thanks for the feedback.

    ... Press alt-H to continue, then Y if applicable.

    --- Renegade vv1.22/DOS
    * Origin: The Pot O'Gold - bbs.thepotogold.net:4888 (1:229/426.52)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to mark lewis on Wed Mar 31 11:11:00 2021
    Hello mark,

    On Tuesday March 30 2021 11:41, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> The fact that something is not formally required does not
    MvdV>> necesarilly make it not bad if it is missing.

    true but not having it also doesn't make it bad ;)

    That depends. In some cases not having it despite the fact that it is not formally required is bad.

    Missing rear vieuw mirrors on motor cycles are detrimental to road safety because the biker may miss information about whet is going on behing him/her. I say that is bad.

    Missing MSGID is annoying because it breaks the reply chaining, I say that is bad.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to mark lewis on Wed Mar 31 13:40:24 2021
    Hello mark,

    On Wednesday March 31 2021 06:35, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> That depends. In some cases not having it despite the fact that
    MvdV>> it is not formally required is bad.

    i would say "can be bad" instead of "is bad"...

    Your words, I call a spade a spade. In the cases it is bad, I call it bad.

    MvdV>> Missing rear vieuw mirrors on motor cycles are detrimental to
    MvdV>> road safety because the biker may miss information about whet
    MvdV>> is going on behing him/her. I say that is bad.

    i've never seen rearview mirrors on racing motorcycles... especially dirtbikes...

    I thought it would be clear that I meant motor cycles driven on public roads. Requirements like mirrors only apply to vehicles driven on public roads. Sorry for ommitting the fine print in which this was explicitly mentioned.

    My point stands: In some cases someting missing that is not a formal requirement is bad.
    Example: motor cycles without rear view mirrors driven on public roads in The Netherlands.

    MvdV>> Missing MSGID is annoying because it breaks the reply chaining,
    MvdV>> I say that is bad.

    this depends on what type of reply chaining is used... some systems
    simply link on subject lines... yes, that may break a reply chain but
    the message should still be linked in with the desired message
    chain...

    Subject linking is an inferior method of reply linking. MSGID/REPLY is superior and so that is what many use. Actually it is more a tree than a chain.

    My point stands: In some cases someting missing that is not a formal requirement is bad.
    Example: Missing MSGID.

    there's both good and bad on both sides of the fence...

    That is no excuse for doing something bad.


    Cheers, Michiel

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