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    From Martin Foster@2:221/360 to All on Tue Jan 5 10:45:12 2021
    Greetings All!

    Just taking Thunderbird for a test drive :-)

    ..\\artin

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 19:01:38 2021
    Hi! Martin,

    On 05 Jan 21 10:45, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5ff42716
    @PID: Pineapple/OS2 1.3 20201107
    @TID: GE/2 1.2
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    @TZUTC: 0200
    Greetings All!

    Just taking Thunderbird for a test drive :-)

    ..\\artin

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0) SEEN-BY: 19/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 240/1120 280/464 5003 5555 320/119
    219
    SEEN-BY: 423/81 640/1138 1321 1384 712/848 3634/12
    @PATH: 221/360 1 640/1384 1384.125

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.4.7
    * Origin: Paul's other Linux ghizmo - a little more mobile (3:640/1384.125)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 10:26:14 2021
    Hi Martin!

    05 Jan 2021 10:45, from Martin Foster -> All:

    @MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5ff42716
    @PID: Pineapple/OS2 1.3 20201107
    @TID: GE/2 1.2
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    @TZUTC: 0200
    Greetings All!

    Just taking Thunderbird for a test drive :-)

    ..\\artin

    SEEN-BY: 103/705 124/5016 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 229/101 240/1120 SEEN-BY: 240/5832 280/464 5003 5555 288/100 292/854 8125 310/31 396/45 SEEN-BY: 423/81 120 460/58 712/848 770/1 2452/250
    @PATH: 221/360 1 280/464

    CU, Ricsi

    ... I'd rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief.
    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: Never call a man a fool; borrow from him. (2:310/31)
  • From Martin Foster@2:221/360 to Paul Quinn on Tue Jan 5 14:08:16 2021
    Hello Paul!

    Thanks for replying :)

    On 05/01/2021 17:01, Paul Quinn : Martin Foster wrote:

    [snip]
    MF> --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
    MF> Thunderbird/78.6.0

    IMO, the tearline is far too long and full of unnecessary crud. A simple "Thunderbird/<version number>" would be far better. Is there any way I can change that in my Thunderbird config?

    ..\\artin

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 08:07:00 2021
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Tuesday 05.01.21 - 14:08, Martin Foster wrote to Paul Quinn:

    [snip]
    MF> --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0)
    Gecko/20100101 MF> Thunderbird/78.6.0

    IMO, the tearline is far too long and full of unnecessary crud. A simple "Thunderbird/<version number>" would be far better. Is there any way I
    can change that in my Thunderbird config?

    You sure can!

    I've done it. Look for my messages that contain "Stealth" in the
    tagline. ;)

    I specifically made changes my TB 78 because I thought that darn
    line was needlessly long and verbose.

    You basically have to go into the Tools/Config and look for the
    UserAgent strings that match what you want to change. It depends
    on the version TB you are using. In some versions of TB you can
    put anything in there you want, leave it blank (for the most
    part), or just toggle a True/False setting.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
    * Origin: This is a test of the Emergency Tagline System (1:153/757.21)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/6 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 15:30:56 2021
    On 1/5/2021 3:45 AM, between "Martin Foster - All":

    Greetings All!

    Just taking Thunderbird for a test drive :-)

    .\\artin

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0


    TESTING a reply back with my current version and modifying the useragent string (maybe)

    ---
    * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/6 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 15:33:58 2021
    On 1/5/2021 7:08 AM, between "Martin Foster - Paul Quinn":

    IMO, the tearline is far too long and full of unnecessary crud. A simple "Thunderbird/<version number>" would be far better. Is there any way I can change that in my Thunderbird config?

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)

    Can you tell what nntp reader I am using for THIS reply?

    ---
    * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 15:36:34 2021
    On 05.01.2021 14:08, Martin Foster wrote:

    [snip]
    MF> --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 >> MF> Thunderbird/78.6.0

    IMO, the tearline is far too long and full of unnecessary crud. A
    simple "Thunderbird/<version number>" would be far better. Is there
    any way I can change that in my Thunderbird config?
    Look for "general.useragent.override" in about:config.

    If it does not exist, just add it. :)


    .\\artin

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)


    'Tommi

    --- Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/6.0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 5 15:44:10 2021
    On 05.01.2021 15:33, August Abolins wrote:


    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)

    Can you tell what nntp reader I am using for THIS reply?

    The setup in 2:221/6 is a bit different than in 2:221/360. :)

    'Tommi

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to Martin Foster on Tue Jan 5 13:41:56 2021
    On 05/01/21 05:45, Martin Foster -> All wrote:
    Greetings All!

    Just taking Thunderbird for a test drive :-)

    .\\artin


    Travelled all the way down to another Thunderbird at South America.

    --
    ---
    Flavio Bessa - 4:801/188
    fcbessa@gmail.com

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thund
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Paul Quinn on Tue Jan 5 15:51:06 2021
    On 05.01.2021 23:37, Paul Quinn wrote:

    Hi! Martin,

    On 05 Jan 2021, Martin Foster said the following...

    [snip]
    MF> --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100
    MF> Thunderbird/78.6.0

    IMO, the tearline is far too long and full of unnecessary crud. A simple "Thunderbird/<version number>" would be far better. Is there any way I can change that in my Thunderbird config?

    No, unless it is an option in T'bird. (I don't think it i, either.) Whether to quote it is an option in JamNNTPd's config, I think. Check with my friend,
    Tommi.

    2:221/6 will add the 'useragent' to the tearline if you use nntps. Otherwise not. :D

    'Tommi

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/6.0)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jan 5 15:54:50 2021
    On 1/5/2021 8:44 AM, between "Tommi Koivula : August Abolins":

    Can you tell what nntp reader I am using for THIS reply?

    The setup in 2:221/6 is a bit different than in 2:221/360. :)


    OK. How 'bout now? Is my secret safe with me?

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125 .
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 5 13:47:22 2021
    On 05/01/21 10:07, August Abolins -> Martin Foster wrote:

    You sure can!

    I've done it.  Look for my messages that contain "Stealth" in the tagline.  ;)

    I specifically made changes my TB 78 because I thought that darn
    line was needlessly long and verbose.

    You basically have to go into the Tools/Config and look for the
    UserAgent strings that match what you want to change. It depends
    on the version TB you are using.  In some versions of TB you can
    put anything in there you want, leave it blank (for the most
    part), or just toggle a True/False setting.

    Well, I looked at the Tools/Config, nothing there, but at the ConfigEditor (at Preferences, as I am using a Mac) I got a few UserAgent configs, but none which
    I could effectively change. I will keep looking.

    --
    ---
    Flavio Bessa - 4:801/188
    fcbessa@gmail.com

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thund
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)
  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jan 5 13:51:22 2021
    On 05/01/21 10:36, Tommi Koivula -> Martin Foster wrote:

    Look for "general.useragent.override" in about:config.

    If it does not exist, just add it. :)

    Kiitos! It worked like a charm!


    --
    ---
    Flavio Bessa - 4:801/188
    fcbessa@gmail.com

    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 5 16:00:32 2021
    On 1/5/2021 8:54 AM, between "August Abolins : Tommi Koivula":

    The setup in 2:221/6 is a bit different than in 2:221/360. :)


    OK. How 'bout now? Is my secret safe with me?

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125 .

    Crap.

    OK.. How 'bout now in this one?

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125 .
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jan 5 09:08:00 2021
    Hello Tommi!

    ** On Tuesday 05.01.21 - 15:36, Tommi Koivula wrote to Martin Foster:

    Look for "general.useragent.override" in about:config.

    If it does not exist, just add it. :)

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
    Thunderbird/78.6.0

    -+- Thunderbird/78.6.0

    Actually, exposing one's program version (especially in vastly
    more public venues like usenet) can attract the social engineers
    that think that they can phish you out and steer you to a site
    that would take advantage of a security weakness.

    I was able to eliminate broadcasting my TB version, but the
    "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16)
    Gecko/20101125" crud is still there. :(

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
    * Origin: This is a test of the Emergency Tagline System (1:153/757.21)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 5 16:06:00 2021
    Hi August.

    05 Jan 21 15:54:50, you wrote to me:

    On 1/5/2021 8:44 AM, between "Tommi Koivula : August Abolins":

    Can you tell what nntp reader I am using for THIS reply?

    The setup in 2:221/6 is a bit different than in 2:221/360. :)

    OK. How 'bout now? Is my secret safe with me?

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125 .
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)

    The secret that you are really using Thunderbird in a Linux computer? Yes it is!

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: IPv6 Point at [2001:470:1f15:cb0:2:221:1:1] (2:221/1.1)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Flavio Bessa on Tue Jan 5 16:07:10 2021
    Hi Flavio.

    05 Jan 21 13:51:22, you wrote to me:

    On 05/01/21 10:36, Tommi Koivula -> Martin Foster wrote:

    Look for "general.useragent.override" in about:config.

    If it does not exist, just add it. :)

    Kiitos! It worked like a charm!

    You're welcome! :)

    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: IPv6 Point at [2001:470:1f15:cb0:2:221:1:1] (2:221/1.1)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Paul Quinn on Tue Jan 5 18:10:42 2021
    Hello, Paul Quinn.
    On 05/01/2021 23.41 you wrote:

    Hi! August,
    On 05 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    @PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 1.3 20201225
    Can you tell what nntp reader I am using for THIS reply?
    Oh, no! It's a SMAPI version!

    Oh, yes! :D

    Tommi

    --- HotdogEd/2.13.5 (Android; Google Android; rv:1) Hotdoged/1605510788000 HotdogEd/2.13.5
    * Origin: - rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/1)
  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Jan 5 16:46:14 2021
    On 05/01/21 13:10, Tommi Koivula -> Paul Quinn wrote:

     AA>>> Can you tell what nntp reader I am using for THIS reply?
     PQ>> Oh, no!  It's a SMAPI version!

    Oh, yes! :D

    Pardon me for the silly question, but what is SMAPI?

    --
    Flavio Bessa - 4:801/188 - Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
    fcbessa@gmail.com

    --- Thunderbird/MacOS 78.6.0
    * Origin: Andromeda - Saturn's Orbit NNTP Gateway (4:801/188)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Flavio Bessa on Tue Jan 5 20:14:56 2021

     AA>>> Can you tell what nntp reader I am using for THIS reply?
     PQ>> Oh, no!  It's a SMAPI version!

    Oh, yes! :D

    Pardon me for the silly question, but what is SMAPI?


    SMAPI is a library to access JAM, Squish and .MSG message bases.

    https://github.com/huskyproject/smapi

    SmapiNNTPd is just an alternative to JamNNTPd. The latter one can only
    work with JAM bases.

    https://github.com/ftnapps/smapinntpd

    I run JamNNTPd in OS/2 with GEcho as a tosser and SmapiNNTPd in Linux
    with HPT as a tosser.

    'Tommi

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1
    * Origin: - rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland - (2:221/1)
  • From Martin Foster@2:221/360 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Jan 6 11:13:50 2021
    Hello Tommi!

    On 05/01/2021 13:36, Tommi Koivula : Martin Foster wrote:

    [snip]
    MF> --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
    MF> Thunderbird/78.6.0

    IMO, the tearline is far too long and full of unnecessary crud. A
    simple "Thunderbird/<version number>" would be far better. Is there
    any way I can change that in my Thunderbird config?
    Look for "general.useragent.override" in about:config.

    Not there.

    If it does not exist, just add it. :)

    Done!

    Thanks :-)

    ..\\artin

    --- Thunderbird 78.6.0
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)