Greetings,

if anyone is bored and want to help me out testing a netmail issue with my point, you could send a netmail to me at 1:340/202.1

please and thank you

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|02Regards,

|09Rick|03 //|04 Nitro

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/09 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Abacus BBS (1:340/202)

Hi Rick!

19 Apr 2020 23:07, from Rick Smith -> All:

if anyone is bored and want to help me out testing a netmail issue
with my point, you could send a netmail to me at 1:340/202.1

Sent you one routed and one direct.

CU, Ricsi

... Happiness is just an illusion caused by the temporary absence of reality. --- GoldED+/LNX
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On 19 Apr 2020, Rick Smith said the following...

if anyone is bored and want to help me out testing a netmail issue with
my point, you could send a netmail to me at 1:340/202.1

Sent one. Can't remember if I set my host to route netmail through or if I
just set it to crash so that will be a test for both of us.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/12 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Shadowscope BBS | bbs.shadowscope.com | Temple, GA (1:3634/24)

Sent you one routed and one direct.

Appreciate it, I did not get them but thank you. I cant imagine why I am not getting any netmail.

---
|02Regards,

|09Rick|03 //|04 Nitro

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/09 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Abacus BBS (1:340/202)

SEEN-BY: 463/68 467/888 4500/1 5000/111 5001/100 5005/49 5019/40 5020/846 1042
SEEN-BY: 5020/2047 2140 4441 5054/8 5064/56 5080/102 5083/444
@PATH: 340/202 400 261/38 5020/1042 221/6 1

* Originally in netmail
* Crossposted in fidotest

I am not sure what I am looking at... Does this show why it isnt working?

---
|02Regards,

|09Rick|03 //|04 Nitro

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/09 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Abacus BBS (1:340/202)

Hello Rick,

SEEN-BY: 463/68 467/888 4500/1 5000/111 5001/100 5005/49

5019/40

5020/846 1042
SEEN-BY: 5020/2047 2140 4441 5054/8 5064/56 5080/102

5083/444

@PATH: 340/202 400 261/38 5020/1042 221/6 1

* Originally in netmail
* Crossposted in fidotest

I am not sure what I am looking at... Does this show why it isnt
working?

No, those are path and seen by lines that explain how your message reached his node. :)

I am going to look up your node details and send your point a netmail via the boss. You'll need to look into what is happening there.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

* Originally in _ossi_netmail.bbs
* Crossposted in fidotest

* Replying to a msg in fidotest (fidotest)

I am not sure what I am looking at...

Oh boy. :)

This one will be sent crash to 1:340/202.

'Tommi


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* Origin: - rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland - (2:221/1)

20 Apr 20 19:32, Tommi Koivula wrote to Rick Smith:

I am not sure what I am looking at...

Oh boy. :)

This one will be sent crash to 1:340/202.

And there it is:

=== Cut ===
20 Apr 19:38:40 [32765] call to 1:340/202@fidonet
20 Apr 19:38:40 [32765] trying bbs.abon.us via proxy 192.168.1.15:8118...
20 Apr 19:38:40 [32765] connected
20 Apr 19:38:40 [32765] connected to proxy 192.168.1.15:8118
20 Apr 19:38:40 [32765] outgoing session with bbs.abon.us:24554
20 Apr 19:38:41 [32765] OPT CRAM-MD5-843982ee6d0a8721c258a0e88ef17e7b
20 Apr 19:38:41 [32765] Remote requests MD mode
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] SYS Abacus BBS
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] ZYZ Nitro
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] TIME Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:38:42 -0700
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] VER Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] BUILD 2020/04/09 22:54:52 Windows/64
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] addr: 1:340/202@fidonet
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] sending \xenia\outbound.001\015400ca.cut as d6aea198.pkt (532)
20 Apr 19:38:42 [32765] QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
20 Apr 19:38:43 [32765] sent: \xenia\outbound.001\015400ca.cut (532, 532.00 CPS, 1:340/202@fidonet)
20 Apr 19:38:43 [32765] done (to 1:340/202@fidonet, OK, S/R: 1/0 (532/0 bytes))
20 Apr 19:38:43 [32765] session closed, quitting...
=== Cut ===

Now you have something to look. :)

'Tommi

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* Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/1)

Re: Re: netmail test
By: Rick Smith to Richard Menedetter on Mon Apr 20 2020 08:48:34

Sent you one routed and one direct.

Appreciate it, I did not get them but thank you. I cant imagine why I am

not getting any netmail.

how do you know you didn't get them? have you checked both of your inbounds? what does your mailer logs say for a connection from his address? what does your mail tosser say?

there is a specific path to follow to see what happened ;)


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

Greetings mark!

20 Apr 20 16:21, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

Re: Re: netmail test
By: Rick Smith to Richard Menedetter on Mon Apr 20 2020 08:48:34

how do you know you didn't get them? have you checked both of your inbounds? what does your mailer logs say for a connection from his address? what does your mail tosser say?

there is a specific path to follow to see what happened ;)

I have looked everywhere before I started asking... I have just turned on highest log on point side so we will see.


-+-
Regards,

Rick // (Nitro)

... Max takes your BBSing to the Maximum and further!
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20170303
* Origin: ----> Abacus Sysop Point (1:340/202.1)

Re: netmail test
By: Rick Smith to mark lewis on Mon Apr 20 2020 20:36:36

how do you know you didn't get them? have you checked both of your
inbounds? what does your mailer logs say for a connection from his
address? what does your mail tosser say?

there is a specific path to follow to see what happened ;)

I have looked everywhere before I started asking... I have just turned
on highest log on point side so we will see.

FWIW: someone routed a netmail through here the other day... my system didn't have the first clue how to route it further and was trying to send it to your point direct... when i found it, i manually redirected it to your boss address and you should have been able to pick it up from there... if everything worked,
that is... i'm still contemplating how to handle those... my default routing should already handle them but apparently something is amiss somewhere...


)\/(ark
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Hi mark!

21 Apr 2020 09:13, from mark lewis -> Rick Smith:

I have looked everywhere before I started asking... I have just
turned on highest log on point side so we will see.

FWIW: someone routed a netmail through here the other day... my system didn't have the first clue how to route it further and was trying to
send it to your point direct... when i found it, i manually redirected
it to your boss address and you should have been able to pick it up
from there... if everything worked, that is... i'm still contemplating
how to handle those... my default routing should already handle them
but apparently something is amiss somewhere...

I have sent 2 kinds.
Routed and direct.

With the direct NM I had the same issue.
It tried to send it direct ... I guess hence the name :)

CU, Ricsi

... A signature reveals a man's character-and sometimes even his name.
--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: Good chili will make you sweat. (2:310/31)

Re: netmail test
By: Richard Menedetter to mark lewis on Tue Apr 21 2020 15:56:10

I have looked everywhere before I started asking... I have just
turned on highest log on point side so we will see.

FWIW: someone routed a netmail through here the other day... my system
didn't have the first clue how to route it further and was trying to
send it to your point direct... when i found it, i manually redirected
it to your boss address and you should have been able to pick it up
from there... if everything worked, that is... i'm still contemplating
how to handle those... my default routing should already handle them
but apparently something is amiss somewhere...

I have sent 2 kinds.
Routed and direct.

With the direct NM I had the same issue.
It tried to send it direct ... I guess hence the name :)

yeah, there is that... but there was also, back in the bad old days, when numerous mailers were intelligent enough to know that unless it had specific contact data for the destination point system, that direct netmail to a point would be sent direct to the point's boss... sadly much of that intelligence has
been lost...

in the case of BSO, tools like "bonk" and "son of bonk" would be used and they were fairly intelligent AIR from other's discussions... unfortunately i'm not aware of such tools for today's BSO using systems... certainly nothing for *nix
:(


)\/(ark
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Re: Re: netmail test
By: Richard Miles to Rick Smith on Mon Apr 20 2020 11:06:12

if anyone is bored and want to help me out testing a netmail issue
with my point, you could send a netmail to me at 1:340/202.1

Sent one. Can't remember if I set my host to route netmail through
or if I just set it to crash so that will be a test for both of us.

richard, please send another routed netmail to RS' point... i/we would like to test a bug fix that your original routed netmail brought to the surface that should be fixed now...

thanks!


)\/(ark
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* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

Hello mark,

if anyone is bored and want to help me out testing a netmail
issue with my point, you could send a netmail to me at
1:340/202.1

Sent one. Can't remember if I set my host to route netmail
through or if I just set it to crash so that will be a test for
both of us.

richard, please send another routed netmail to RS' point... i/we would like to test a bug fix that your original routed netmail brought to
the surface that should be fixed now...

I just sent one to Rick Smith at 1:340/202.1 via 3634/12. I hope it blends. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

Re: netmail test
By: Alan Ianson to mark lewis on Wed Apr 22 2020 11:51:32

I just sent one to Rick Smith at 1:340/202.1 via 3634/12. I
hope it blends. :)

2020-04-22 14:51:38 Importing /sbbs/ftn/in/secure/bb846226.pkt (Type 2e, 0.4KB)
from 1:153/757 to 1:3634/12

2020-04-22 14:51:38 Alan Ianson (1:153/757) To: Rick Smith (1:340/202.1) Exported to /sbbs/ftn/netmail/5915.msg

2020-04-22 14:51:38 Deleting /sbbs/ftn/in/secure/bb846226.pkt (from line 6013)

2020-04-22 14:51:38 Packing NetMail (5915.msg) from Alan Ianson (1:153/757) to Rick Smith (1:340/202.1), attr: 0001, subject: A test

2020-04-22 14:51:38 Routing NetMail (5915.msg) to 1:261/38


that one was fine... looking at the Packing line, the message contained only the PRIvate bit so it was properly routed...

i'm not sure how the one richard sent routed to rick was marked as crash... i suspect because richard has my system configured for crash status... let's test
that... please set my record in your tosser for crash status instead of normal status and try sending another one... i want to see if the netmail arrives here
with "attr: 0003" meaning it is PRIvate and CRAsh...

if that doesn't pack the netmail with the CRAsh bit set, then there's another setting in the BBS FTN networking config that allows to "send netmail with crash status"... try enabling that and sending another test netmail to rick's point... one of these two settings will pack the message with the CRAsh bit set... hopefully you're not yet running the latest fixed tosser code... i'll check my logs in a little while... i have a few things to do so will be away from the system for a bit...

thanks for helping to test this! :)


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

On 22 Apr 2020, mark lewis said the following...

richard, please send another routed netmail to RS' point... i/we would like to test a bug fix that your original routed netmail brought to the surface that should be fixed now...

Done.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/17 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Shadowscope BBS | bbs.shadowscope.com | Temple, GA (1:3634/24)

Re: netmail test
By: Richard Miles to mark lewis on Wed Apr 22 2020 17:10:28

richard, please send another routed netmail to RS' point... i/we
would like to test a bug fix that your original routed netmail
brought to the surface that should be fixed now...

Done.

perfect!


2020-04-22 17:10:05 Importing /sbbs/ftn/in/secure/0d7b3cf1.pkt (Type 2e, 0.6KB)
from 1:3634/24 to 1:3634/12

2020-04-22 17:10:05 Richard Miles (1:3634/24) To: Rick Smith (1:340/202.1) Removing attributes: 0002

2020-04-22 17:10:05 Richard Miles (1:3634/24) To: Rick Smith (1:340/202.1) Exported to /sbbs/ftn/netmail/5917.msg

2020-04-22 17:10:05 Deleting /sbbs/ftn/in/secure/0d7b3cf1.pkt (from line 6013)

2020-04-22 17:10:05 Packing NetMail (5917.msg) from Richard Miles (1:3634/24) to Rick Smith (1:340/202.1), attr: 0001, subject: Test Netmail

2020-04-22 17:10:05 Routing NetMail (5917.msg) to 1:261/38

2020-04-22 17:10:05 Node (1:261/38) successfully locked via: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet/01050026.bsy

2020-04-22 17:10:05 Adding NetMail (5917.msg) to new packet for 1:261/38: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet/01050026.dut


you passed the test!

your reward of 10 fidobucks is in the netmail ;)


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

On 22 Apr 2020, mark lewis said the following...

you passed the test!

your reward of 10 fidobucks is in the netmail ;)

W00t

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/17 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Shadowscope BBS | bbs.shadowscope.com | Temple, GA (1:3634/24)

I turned off default routing last night ans sent a series of tests to see
what would happen, including one to you at /12. Did you happen to receive
it?

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/17 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Shadowscope BBS | bbs.shadowscope.com | Temple, GA (1:3634/24)

Re: netmail test
By: Richard Miles to mark lewis on Thu Apr 23 2020 10:47:17

I turned off default routing last night ans sent a series of tests
to see what would happen, including one to you at /12. Did you happen
to receive it?

i did and replied just a little bit ago...


)\/(ark
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there is a specific path to follow to see what happened ;)

I sent you a netmail from my bbs with an update to the netmail..

---
Regards,

Rick // Nitro

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Abacus BBS (1:340/202)

Re: Re: netmail test
By: Rick Smith to mark lewis on Fri Apr 24 2020 14:20:58

there is a specific path to follow to see what happened ;)

I sent you a netmail from my bbs with an update to the netmail..

i haven't seen it yet... when and how did you send it?


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

i haven't seen it yet... when and how did you send it?

I see the node the browser brought up was 1:3636/12? I sent it there at 1415hrs.

---
Regards,

Rick // Nitro

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Abacus BBS (1:340/202)

Hi! Rick,

On 24 Apr 20 17:59, you wrote to mark lewis:

i haven't seen it yet... when and how did you send it?

I see the node the browser brought up was 1:3636/12? I sent it there
at 1415hrs.

That can't be right. Quick! Before he wakes... check again!

Cheers,
Paul.

... Don't bother me. I'm living happily ever after.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
* Origin: Quinn's Rock - Live from Paul's Xubuntu desktop! (3:640/1384)

That can't be right. Quick! Before he wakes... check again!

Ha! I resent it just now to 1:1/120 Think that one is better?

---
Regards,

Rick // Nitro

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/21 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Abacus BBS (1:340/202)

Hi! Rick,

On 04/25/2020 02:33 PM, you wrote:

That can't be right. Quick! Before he wakes... check again!

Ha! I resent it just now to 1:1/120 Think that one is better?

You're welcome. Happy ANZAC day, tomorrow.

Cheers,
Paul.

--- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0
* Origin: Was today really necessary? (3:640/1384.125)

Re: Re: netmail test
By: Rick Smith to mark lewis on Fri Apr 24 2020 17:59:16

i haven't seen it yet... when and how did you send it?

I see the node the browser brought up was 1:3636/12? I sent it there at

1415hrs.

3634?? other than that, yes, that's my system... it still has not arrived here,
AFAICT...

your system is 1:340/202 in portland, oregon, right?

searching my mailer logs (via grep), the only entries i find containing your 1:340/202 address are the few hundred where my system was trying to deliver that one stuck netmail to your point... the only other entry is the very last one where i renamed the packet to your address in the hope that it would be delivered to your node and forwarded to your point... we know how that came out
and the bug that caused it has now been eradicated so it should not be a problem any more...

i would check your mailer's outbound directory and logs and see if you can figure out:

1. if the mail is still sitting there waiting to go out.

2. if your system routed it to one of your links for
further routing toward my system.

if #1 is in play and your system is unable to connect here, please let me know:

1. your system's IP number so i can check if it is blocked
here for some reason... if your IP was blocked here, my
delivery would not have been able to happen on the 20th.
it is possible that your IP has been auto-blocked for
some reason since then, though...

2. what domain your system is trying to connect to... my
old wpusa.dynip.com domain has been gone since the
beginning of 2019... current nodelists should have my
current proper domain in them...

if #2 is in play, please let me know which system your's routed the netmail to...


as a test, you can write a netmail message to "ping" at my 1:3634/12 address...
if you send it routed, you *may* get responses from intermediate ping-capable systems along the route telling you that the message arrived there and was sent
onward... if/when the ping message arrives here, my system will generate a response letting you know that the message did arrive here and it should show you the VIA lines from the intermediate systems that handled the netmail on its
way here...


ASIDE: ISTR that once upon a time i knew and possibly had a link with a rick smith in the portland, OR, area... this was likely related to RemoteAccess BBS,
FrontDoor, or FastEcho... are you he? if so, it is good to see you again! please also accept my apologies for not remembering/recognizing you...


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

Re: netmail test
By: Paul Quinn to Rick Smith on Sat Apr 25 2020 12:54:49

i haven't seen it yet... when and how did you send it?

I see the node the browser brought up was 1:3636/12? I sent it there
at 1415hrs.

That can't be right. Quick! Before he wakes... check again!

LOL!

probably just a typo in the message but it could be that it was also typoed when entering the message... if the message was indeed addressed to 1:3636/12 and routed upstream, it is either sitting in some blackhole somewhere because net 3636 no longer exists and/or someone's system has tried to bounce it back and that's not gone swimmingly...

if the message was marked direct or crash to the wrong net, it is probably still sitting in rick's outbound trying to go but not finding the needed information to do so...


)\/(ark
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Re: Re: netmail test
By: Rick Smith to Paul Quinn on Fri Apr 24 2020 21:33:46

That can't be right. Quick! Before he wakes... check again!

Ha! I resent it just now to 1:1/120 Think that one is better?

that is another valid address for my system but yeah, still no inbound contact here from your mailer... did you send it routed or crash/direct?


)\/(ark
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