Hello everybody!


Testing from my PC 386, DOS 6.22, does the message get well?


thanks
regards

Thierry


--- FMail/386 1.60.GPL
* Origin: 386_40mhz-8MB_ram/DOS6.22/IBM_TCP-IP/Binkd-DOS/Fmail1.6/ (4:900/106)

Hello Thierry,

@TZUTC: 0000
@CHRS: CP850 2
@MSGID: 4:900/106 5e8fe3db

Hello everybody!

Testing from my PC 386, DOS 6.22, does the message get well?

thanks
regards

Thierry

SEEN-BY: 1/123 4/0 18/200 88/0 90/0 1 103/705 135/367 153/757 154/10
203/0
SEEN-BY: 221/0 1 6 360 226/16 30 227/114 229/101 200 426 452 1014
240/1120
SEEN-BY: 240/5832 249/206 307 317 400 280/464 5003 5555 288/100 310/31 317/3
SEEN-BY: 322/757 335/364 342/200 396/45 423/81 120 712/848 770/1 900/0
100 102
SEEN-BY: 900/105 106 108 902/0 6 19 26 27 100 2452/250 4500/1
5020/1042
@PATH: 900/106 902/27 90/1 229/426 280/464 221/1 6

That's what I see here..

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hi Thierry,

On 2020-04-10 03:09:00, you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 4:900/106 5e8fe3db
@TZUTC: 0000
@CHRS: CP850 2

Hello everybody!

Testing from my PC 386, DOS 6.22, does the message get well?

Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong for Z4...

thanks
regards

Thierry

--- FMail/386 1.60.GPL
* Origin: 386_40mhz-8MB_ram/DOS6.22/IBM_TCP-IP/Binkd-DOS/Fmail1.6/ (4:900/106)
SEEN-BY: 1/123 4/0 18/200 88/0 90/0 1 103/705 135/367 154/10 203/0 221/0 SEEN-BY: 226/16 30 227/114 229/101 200 426 452 1014 240/5832 249/206 SEEN-BY: 249/307 317 400 280/464 5003 5555 288/100 310/31 317/3 322/757 SEEN-BY: 342/200 396/45 423/120 712/848 770/1 900/0 100 102 105 106 SEEN-BY: 900/108 902/0 6 19 26 27 100 2452/250
@PATH: 900/106 902/27 90/1 229/426 280/464

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Thierry!

10 Apr 2020 03:09, from Thierry Olmedo -> All:

@TZUTC: 0000
@CHRS: CP850 2
@MSGID: 4:900/106 5e8fe3db

Hello everybody!

Testing from my PC 386, DOS 6.22, does the message get well?

thanks
regards

Thierry

SEEN-BY: 1/123 4/0 18/200 88/0 90/0 1 103/705 135/367 154/10 203/0
221/0
SEEN-BY: 226/16 30 227/114 229/101 200 426 452 1014 240/5832 249/206 SEEN-BY: 249/307 317 400 280/464 5003 5555 288/100 310/31 317/3
322/757
SEEN-BY: 342/200 396/45 423/120 712/848 770/1 900/0 100 102 105 106 SEEN-BY: 900/108 902/0 6 19 26 27 100 2452/250
@PATH: 900/106 902/27 90/1 229/426 280/464

CU, Ricsi

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Re: Test 1
By: Thierry Olmedo to All on Fri Apr 10 2020 03:09:00

Testing from my PC 386, DOS 6.22, does the message get well?

Sender Thierry Olmedo
To All
Subject Test 1
X-FTN-AREA FIDOTEST
X-FTN-CHRS CP850 2
X-FTN-MSGID 4:900/106 5e8fe3db
X-FTN-SEEN-BY 19/36 57/0 220/70 221/0 226/17 267/800 317/3 340/1000 633/267 X-FTN-SEEN-BY 640/1138 1321 1384 712/620 848 770/0 1 100 330 340 772/0 1 X-FTN-SEEN-BY 772/210 220 230 500 3634/12
X-FTN-PATH 900/106 902/27 90/1 229/426 317/3 770/1 712/848 640/1384


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Hello Wilfred!

10 Apr 20 09:22, you wrote to me:

Hi Thierry,
On 2020-04-10 03:09:00, you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 4:900/106 5e8fe3db
@TZUTC: 0000
@CHRS: CP850 2
Hello everybody!
Testing from my PC 386, DOS 6.22, does the message get well?

Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong for
Z4...

How could it be fixed? I use Fmail 1.60/DOS and did not find that option , thanks

best regards

Thierry


--- FMail/386 1.60.GPL
* Origin: 386_40mhz-8MB_ram/DOS6.22/IBM_TCP-IP/Binkd-DOS/Fmail1.6/ (4:900/106)

Hi Thierry,

On 2020-04-11 02:11:39, you wrote to me:

@TZUTC: 0000

Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong for
Z4...

How could it be fixed? I use Fmail 1.60/DOS and did not find that option , thanks

FMail has nothing to do with it. It's your editors responsibility to insert that into the message...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Re: Re: Test 1
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Thierry Olmedo on Sat Apr 11 2020 11:22:13

Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong for
Z4...

How could it be fixed? I use Fmail 1.60/DOS and did not find that option , thanks

FMail has nothing to do with it. It's your editors responsibility to

insert that into the message...

or more likely your BBS' responsibility depending on where and how one writes their messages...

TZUTC is/was generally set as an envoronment variable on systems and the BBS takes it from there... that's how it was done originally... the only problem was the need to reset it each time daylight saving came and went but that was easily handled, too... my system did it automatically via a tool that i wrote which was run each time the BBS/mailer recycled after a connection was terminated ;)

these days, with some newer software, TZUTC is handled internally which means more code the BBS has for handling time and timezones instead of using external
speciality tools for the task...


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On 11.04.2020 2:11, Thierry Olmedo wrote:

 TO>>> @TZUTC: 0000
 TO>>> @CHRS: CP850 2
 TO>>>     Hello everybody!
 TO>>> Testing from my PC 386, DOS 6.22, does the message get well?


 WV>> Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong for
 WV>> Z4...

How could it be fixed?

You could move yourself to London. :)

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Hi! Tommi,

On 04/12/2020 05:12 AM, you wrote to Thierry Olmedo:

Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong for
Z4...

How could it be fixed?

You could move yourself to London. :)

They're on DST now though, aren't they? I haven't looked but Thierry is probably on something like -5/-4, like North America.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello Tommi!

11 Apr 20 22:12, you wrote to me:
 WV>>> Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems
 WV>>> wrong for Z4...

How could it be fixed?

You could move yourself to London. :)

I think it will be easier than fixing it :D


Thierry


--- FMail/386 1.60.GPL
* Origin: 386_40mhz-8MB_ram/DOS6.22/IBM_TCP-IP/Binkd-DOS/Fmail1.6/ (4:900/106)

Hello Paul!

12 Apr 20 09:10, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

They're on DST now though, aren't they? I haven't looked but Thierry
is probably on something like -5/-4, like North America.
Cheers,
Paul.

yes, (UTC-03:00) America, Argentina, Cordoba

regards



Thierry


--- FMail/386 1.60.GPL
* Origin: 386_40mhz-8MB_ram/DOS6.22/IBM_TCP-IP/Binkd-DOS/Fmail1.6/ (4:900/106)

Hello mark!

11 Apr 20 09:25, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong
for Z4...

TZUTC is/was generally set as an envoronment variable on systems and
the BBS takes it from there... that's how it was done originally...

I think i'm going to disable it from GOLDED+ (i found the settings), there was an option to disable TZUTC , i only use Golded+ DOS + Fmail DOS + Binkd/DOS, i suppose when i implement it in my BBS there i will have to correct it to work correctly.

regards


Thierry


--- FMail/386 1.60.GPL
* Origin: 386_40mhz-8MB_ram/DOS6.22/IBM_TCP-IP/Binkd-DOS/Fmail1.6/ (4:900/106)

"Paul Quinn" <125@1384.640.3> wrote:

Hi! Tommi,

On 04/12/2020 05:12 AM, you wrote to Thierry Olmedo:

WV>>> Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems
WV>>> wrong for Z4...

TO>> How could it be fixed?

TK> You could move yourself to London. :)

They're on DST now though, aren't they?

Ouch. Well, maybe some years after brexit it will be permanent 0000. :)

'Tommi

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"Thierry Olmedo" <0@106.900.4> wrote:

- WV>>> Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems
- WV>>> wrong for Z4...
TO>> How could it be fixed?
TK> You could move yourself to London. :)

I think it will be easier than fixing it :D

In GoldED it should be easy, setting DOS env variable TZUTC should do the trick.

'Tommi

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Re: Test 1
By: Thierry Olmedo to mark lewis on Sun Apr 12 2020 00:38:54

Yes. Except for the 'TZUTC: 0000' kludge line which seems wrong
for Z4...

TZUTC is/was generally set as an envoronment variable on systems and
the BBS takes it from there... that's how it was done originally...

I think i'm going to disable it from GOLDED+ (i found the settings),
there was an option to disable TZUTC ,

why? why not just set it properly and be done with it? if you disable it, you'll probably get more complaints that it isn't being included anyway...

i only use Golded+ DOS + Fmail DOS + Binkd/DOS, i suppose when i
implement it in my BBS there i will have to correct it to work
correctly.

IF you implement it, yes, it should be implemented correctly and according to the covering FTSC document... especially if your software states that it supports the FTSC standard for it... if it doesn't state that and there is no attempt to support it, then there is no problem other than those who like to complain about such things...


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Hi there

playing around...

Matthias
--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: MHS Systems (2:30/0)

Hello Matthias.

31 Mar 21 21:01, you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 2:30/0 6064c715
@CHRS: CP850 2
@TZUTC: 0200
Hi there

playing around...

Matthias
--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: MHS Systems (2:30/0)
SEEN-BY: 30/0 30 103/705 124/5016 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 229/101
426
SEEN-BY: 240/1120 1634 1895 5832 8002 8005 261/38 280/464 5003 5555 288/100
SEEN-BY: 292/854 8125 301/1 4 8 101 108 401 999 310/31 313/41 335/364 371/52
SEEN-BY: 380/5 382/147 396/45 423/81 120 460/58 712/848 770/1 2452/250 @PATH: 30/0 292/854 280/464 221/1 240/1120

Daniel

--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.4.7
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Hi Matthias!

31 Mar 2021 21:01, from Matthias Hertzog -> All:

@MSGID: 2:30/0 6064c715
@CHRS: CP850 2
@TZUTC: 0200
Hi there

playing around...

Matthias
SEEN-BY: 30/0 30 103/705 124/5016 154/10 203/0 221/0 229/101 426
240/5832
SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5555 288/100 292/854 8125 301/1 4 8 101 108 401 SEEN-BY: 301/999 310/31 396/45 423/120 460/58 712/848 770/1 2452/250 @PATH: 30/0 292/854 280/464

CU, Ricsi

... You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.
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