Ward Dossche wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

Lee,

Unlike so many others, Ward survived. But at what cost?
I would hate to see the x-rays of his lungs. Or rather what
is left of his lungs. And so many other parts of his body
that were also affected.

There is irrepearable damage to the lungs. Do not need a doctor to tell
me that. I can feel it.

My collaborator for the door game i'm developing had it. We haven't spoken about it in a few weeks but he said it was the worst pneumonia he ever had.

The rest is pretty good, the heart was checked, legionella, things ...
so my side-effect is that I will never will be able to breathe enough
to run the 100m in 10.0s.

But I've been way luckier than others.

Sorry to hear you had it. Must've sucked. I got swine flu back in 2009 and
it knocked me out for two weeks.

One thing though ... I notice a smoker from a way bigger distance now.

How?


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On 04-23-20 10:53, Daniel wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

So far, I've managed to avoid COVID-19 (to my knowledge), hope it stays that way.

Sorry to hear you had it. Must've sucked. I got swine flu back in 2009
and it knocked me out for two weeks.

I got a strange flu like thing then, which I suspect was actually swine flu, because I had been in close contact with someone who I later found out actually had swine flu at that time. But for me, it was a mild 4 day thing. I normally don't get the seasonal flu - good natural immunity to that family of viruses. And so far, I haven't taken the flu shot, because for me it's been a case of "if it ain't broke...". But that may change in the not too distant future, as my volunteer role in emergency services may require me to have regular flu shots, once this is over, if not before.


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Tony Langdon wrote to Daniel <=-

I got a strange flu like thing then, which I suspect was actually swine flu, because I had been in close contact with someone who I later found out actually had swine flu at that time. But for me, it was a mild 4
day thing. I normally don't get the seasonal flu - good natural
immunity to that family of viruses. And so far, I haven't taken the flu shot, because for me it's been a case of "if it ain't broke...". But
that may change in the not too distant future, as my volunteer role in emergency services may require me to have regular flu shots, once this
is over, if not before.

I was working for Parks and Rec at the time, in HQ, and an employee had returned from a trip to mendocino county and had been in contact with someone who had swine flu. She carried it home as she was infected with no symptoms (like covid) and I got it from her.

There were no other cases reported in my building so I was prone to it.

I last got the flu flu in 1998 and it suckkkkkeeeeeedddddd. The previous time I had it was when my high school sweetheart gave it to me after her recovery. I couldn't resist making out with her when she got back, then i was out for two weeks.

I think the flu isn't bad at all. It's the other stuff that comes with it. Like the sinus infection which spreads to the lungs and ears. I had bronchitis, an ear infection, and congested ears. And sinuses were enflamed in the nose so i had to breathe out of my mouth.

I"m just glad the influenza virus lost much of its virility of yesteryear when it killed the majority of those infected.

Since that 1998 flu, though, I insist on getting teh shot. If not to prevent catching it as much as prevention in spreading it during the infectious (pre-symptomatic) period. I'm glad to be a government worker and have sick leave.


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I'm glad to be a government worker and have sick leave.

I can't imagine living in a country where not everyone is entitled to sick leave. AFAIK all European countries have it.

We think that it's better to spend tax money on welfare than on the military-industrial complex... 8-)




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One thing though ... I notice a smoker from a way bigger distance

now.

How?

My sense of smell has drastically improved.

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One thing though ... I notice a smoker from a way bigger distance WD>now.

So does COVID-19.

Source: The Telegraph

Smokers 'four times less likely' to contract Covid-19, prompting
nicotine patch trials on patients

Researchers in France will test nicotine patches on health workers and
patients but reiterated smoking could also cause more severe illness

By Henry Samuel 23 April 2020 • 5:04pm

Frontline health workers and patients in France may be given nicotine
patches after studies found that four times fewer smokers contracted
Covid-19 than non-smokers.

It may sound counterintuitive that people who puff on Gauloises are
less likely to catch a virus that can cause deadly attacks on the
lungs. However, that was the statistical outcome of an in-depth study
conducted by the Pasteur Institute, a leading French research centre
into the disease.

The institute tested almost 700 teachers and pupils of a school in Crépy-en-Valois in one of the hardest-hit areas in France, as well as
their families. The “highly accurate” tests found that only 7.2 per
cent of smokers from among the adults tested were infected while four
times as many non-smokers, some 28 per cent, were infected.

Arnaud Fontanet, an epidemiologist at the institute, warned that they
were not encouraging people to take up smoking, remarking that those
smokers who do catch the virus “risk suffering more complications” than others. Scientists suggested it could be the nicotine in cigarettes
that was behind the surprising results regarding infection, although
more research is needed.

more at link

Read more:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/23/smokers-four-times-less -likely-contract-covid-19-prompting-nicotine/

Stay safe y'all.

Yeah. Smokers are gonna have to give up nicotine. Not gonna happen.
Wearing a patch just isn't in the cards for some folks ...

--Lee

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On 24 Apr 2020, Bj�rn Felten said the following...

I can't imagine living in a country where not everyone is entitled to sick leave. AFAIK all European countries have it.

It's pretty bad at times. Not just no sick leave but (at least in the
service industry) there's NO calling out sick. Last time I was out sick I was in the hospital from kidney stones.

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Ward Dossche wrote to Daniel <=-

One thing though ... I notice a smoker from a way bigger distance

now.

How?

My sense of smell has drastically improved.

Fascinating. Someone I know who had it says his sense of smell is drasatically reduced. And thusly, his sense of flavor when he's eating too.


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On 04-24-20 01:12, Daniel wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I was working for Parks and Rec at the time, in HQ, and an employee had returned from a trip to mendocino county and had been in contact with someone who had swine flu. She carried it home as she was infected with
no symptoms (like covid) and I got it from her.

Interesting.

I last got the flu flu in 1998 and it suckkkkkeeeeeedddddd. The
previous time I had it was when my high school sweetheart gave it to me after her recovery. I couldn't resist making out with her when she got back, then i was out for two weeks.

I can't remember getting the flu since my mid teens, at least 35 years ago.

I think the flu isn't bad at all. It's the other stuff that comes with
it. Like the sinus infection which spreads to the lungs and ears. I had bronchitis, an ear infection, and congested ears. And sinuses were enflamed in the nose so i had to breathe out of my mouth.

I'm even more resistant to the secondary infections that come with the flu. I can't recall ever having those.

I"m just glad the influenza virus lost much of its virility of
yesteryear when it killed the majority of those infected.

Since that 1998 flu, though, I insist on getting teh shot. If not to prevent catching it as much as prevention in spreading it during the infectious (pre-symptomatic) period. I'm glad to be a government worker and have sick leave.

Wise move. :)


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On 4/25/2020 4:17 PM, between "mark lewis : Bj�rn Felten":

"Stupid is as stupid does." Gump rhymes with Trump... 8-)

ever looked up the etymology of the word "trump"? the 2nd verb usage is

telling ;)


The surname of Donald Trump's family was originally "Drumpf."

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My sense of smell has drastically improved.

Fascinating. Someone I know who had it says his sense of smell is drasatically
reduced. And thusly, his sense of flavor when he's eating too.

That is correct too.

Right after being hospitalized I thought the coffee we got tasted like piss while others thought it was excellent.

Now I think it's OK again.

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Hello Ward,

My sense of smell has drastically improved.

Fascinating. Someone I know who had it says his sense of smell is
drasatically
reduced. And thusly, his sense of flavor when he's eating too.

That is correct too.

Right after being hospitalized I thought the coffee we got tasted like

piss

while others thought it was excellent.

You were in a hospital. People were being tested. Only those
who enjoyed their brew of cat pee were allowed to go home. See
how that works? Those health care professionals are really
smart ...

Now I think it's OK again.

See what I mean? You only thought their brew of cat pee tasted
like piss because you were truly sick. But now that you hsve been
cured and are well again ...

--Lee

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On 04-25-20, WARD DOSSCHE said to DANIEL:

My sense of smell has drastically improved.

Fascinating. Someone I know who had it says his sense of smell is drasatically
reduced. And thusly, his sense of flavor when he's eating too.

That is correct too.

Right after being hospitalized I thought the coffee we got tasted like WD>piss while others thought it was excellent.

Now I think it's OK again.

I was in the hospital myself recently. Had to go in late at night.


I learned three things from the experience;


My heart is in pretty good shape for my age (almost 79);


I did NOT have coronavirus;


They didn't know WHAT was wrong!


They wanted to keep me overnight but I refused to stay. If the bed they
had me laying on was any hint of what the one in a room would be like, I had rather be in my own bed!


Came home and after a day or so was much better.


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Tim,

They didn't know WHAT was wrong!

That confirms our suspicions ... we don't know either what's wrong with you. 8-)

But hang-in there, even if I don't share some of your views.

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Hello Ward,

They didn't know WHAT was wrong!

That confirms our suspicions ... we don't know either what's wrong with you.
8-)

But hang-in there, even if I don't share some of your views.

\%/@rd

While most folks have not had the same experience as you,
many who have have wondered if they might have to go through
it all over again. Well, I've got good news for you.

Scientists have concluded that those who have had it, and
recovered, cannot get it again. Real scientists, not the fakes.

Source: msn / sky new

A number of reported cases of coronavirus patients relapsing after
overcoming the disease were actually due to testing failures, South
Korean scientists say.

Researchers at the South Korean centre for disease control and
prevention (CDC) now say it is impossible for the COVID-19 virus to
reactivate in human bodies.

[..]

A total of 277 patients in the country were believed to have fallen ill
for a second time, as had patients in China and Japan. This prompted
concerns that the virus could be mutating so quickly that people were
not necessarily immune to catching it again.

However, genetic analyses of the virus have not found any substantial
changes which would effectively disguise it from the immune system.

Read more:

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-scientists-conclude-people -cannot-be-infected-twice-11981721


In a sense, you can consider yourself lucky. On the other hand,
a vaccine (if a vaccine is found) will not do you any good.

--Lee

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On 08 May 20 20:58:00, Tim Richardson said the following to Ward Dossche:

I'm fine now given my age. I did more with a new type of heating pad
than several doctors and a bunch of nurses managed to do! Feel a lot
better and have gone back to the usual activities. Try to keep busy.

Glad to hear you're okay Tim.

Nick

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