• Re: ?

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Jas Hud on Tue May 10 18:07:30 2022
    Putin has been in power for 2 decades. doesn't sound like a stupid guy to me.

    There's a difference between bright, smart, keen, witty, intelligent, resourceful, etc ...

    Putin is not a single person, he's the exponent of a system. Remove Putin and eventully another Putin will step forward ... or be shoved forward by the system ...

    BTW, what's your real name?

    \%/@rd

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Alexander Koryagin on Tue May 10 15:23:16 2022
    He also said that the west had threatened it with nuclear war.
    Another lie. The west has not threatened any kind of war. It is
    Russia that rattles it's nuclear sabres.

    Nothing of this kind was in his speech, but earlier he claimed that it
    was unacceptable if NATO would come as close to Moscow as Ukraine.

    No amount of lies and propaganda can overcome these basic facts.

    Poop translation maybe? ;-)

    As you suggested the translation I got was poop I had another listen and no, I got it right the first time. He does indeed blame the west for the war in Ukraine instead of the person who gave the order to invade and attack, Putin himself.

    Russian soldiers have looted homes of Ukrainian civilians and on exit booby trapped those homes to kill civilians returning to their homes.

    https://youtu.be/zTinOAUOVEk

    I will not reply to any off topic posts in this area any longer. It's not because I don't like you, or want to talk to you, or value what you have to say. It's just because it's off topic here.

    I have posted in the WHAT'S_HOT! area posts about the war. I will continue discussions in that area if you'd like to continue.

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Lee Lofaso on Thu May 12 09:38:38 2022
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 12.05.2022 05:15

    AI>>> will not reply to any off topic posts in
    AI>>> this area any longer. It's not because I don't like
    AI>>> you, or want to talk to you, or value what you have to
    AI>>> say. It's just because it's off topic here.
    ak>> I have no access to WHAT'S_HOT!
    LL> The CONSPRCY echo would do just as well ...

    We can try to move to Debate area. The name is more neutral.

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Ward Dossche on Thu May 12 12:03:58 2022
    Hi Ward,

    On 2022-05-12 11:34:52, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I have replied to you in the DEBATE area.

    Have fun there, I'm not going to link another echo with another moderator

    There is no moderator in the DEBATE area! ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Fri May 13 19:00:46 2022
    Hello Alexander,

    the same number as GWB found.
    Ukrainian politicians openly told of their intentions to
    have atomic weapon, and Ukraine as a state with a lot of
    nuclear stations was able to make nukes rather quickly.
    They never told that. It was another Putin's lie.

    On the Munich conference (before the Putin's invasion) Zelensky
    threatened to cancel the Budapest memorandum which doesn't allow Ukraine to have atomic weapon.

    Ukraine willingly gave up the nukes that Russia had left behind
    in 1991. Not that it could have used them, even had it wanted to.

    But let's get real.

    Germany is not allowed to have nuclear weapons, even though it has
    the capability to make as many nuclear weapons as it wants. Yet we
    all know it will do so if it finds it necessary.

    Germany is also forbidden to use its military outside of Germany,
    even though it has the capability to do so. Yet we all know it will
    do so if it finds it necessary.

    That same can be said about Japan, which actually enshrines such
    language in its own constitution.

    The question is - who will stop Germany (and/or Japan) from doing
    what it wants if and when it chooses to do so?

    Would GWB have ordered an invasion of Iraq if Saddam Hussein
    had nuclear weapons? Was his reasoning to invade Iraq due to his
    own concerns that Iraq might soon be capable of making nuclear
    weapons? We know after the fact that Iraq had no nuclear weapons,
    or the capability to make nuclear weapons. It was all an excuse -
    a very flimsy excuse - for GWB to tell the world he had no choice
    but to invade.

    The whole world knows Ukraine has no nuclear weapons. The whole
    world also knows Ukraine does not have teh capability to make
    nuclear weapons. So what is Putin's excuse? Certainly it cannot
    be the same flimsy excuse as GWB? Or is it?

    A pre-emptive first strike. That made the USA the aggressor in
    regards to the conflict in Iraq. Not that Saddam Hussein had any
    intention of attacking the USA. The Butcher of Baghdad - the one
    guy that GWB had fingered as being the epitome of evil - had
    absolutely nothing to do with the events of 9-11.

    After a few years, US troops left Iraq. Long after GWB had
    retired from politics. Iraqis are still in Iraq, again with
    its own leadership, and doing things the Iraqi way.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dmitry Protasoff on Fri May 13 19:00:52 2022
    Hello Dmitry,

    Ukrainian politicians openly told of their intentions to
    have atomic weapon, and Ukraine as a state with a lot of
    nuclear stations was able to make nukes rather quickly.
    They never told that. It was another Putin's lie.

    On the Munich conference (before the Putin's invasion) Zelensky
    threatened to cancel the Budapest memorandum which doesn't allow
    Ukraine to have atomic weapon.

    But he never said that Ukraine will develop nuclear weapons. Putin never thought about this memorandum when he invaded Ukraine.
    You are just bullshiting again - Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and since that tome this document was just a toilet paper.

    Ukraine had returned the nukes Russia had left behind after the two
    had gotten their divorce in 1991. But that was when Zelensky was still
    a kid, having much to learn as he grew up to become a comedian.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dmitry Protasoff on Fri May 13 19:00:58 2022
    Hello Dmitry,

    [..]

    Russia is doing the same as Nazi Germany in 1930 and you are just repeating
    Putin's lies. Who's gonna trust you now?

    In May 1930, the Bund Deutscher Madel (League of German Girls) was
    established as a female alternative to the Hitler Youth.

    AFAIK, no such League of Russian Girls has ever been established
    as a female alternative to the Putin Youth.

    But I could be wrong.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Fri May 13 19:01:04 2022
    Hello Alan,

    We can try, although, as I see it, we can also think that the word
    "fidonews" has just changed it meaning, and we discuss news in fido. ;)

    Fidonews is not world news.

    It is, however, all the news there is to fit.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri May 13 19:01:08 2022
    Hello Wilfred,

    I have replied to you in the DEBATE area.

    Have fun there, I'm not going to link another echo with another
    moderator

    There is no moderator in the DEBATE area! ;-)

    Bobby Queen retired from collecting echo tags years ago.
    At the time of his retirement, he owned 550+ echo tags.
    Not sure if that record will ever be broken ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Fri May 13 19:01:14 2022
    Hello Ward,

    There is no moderator in the DEBATE area! ;-)

    What?

    Participants own the echo, and are thus free to moderate
    themselves. Or not.

    Quick!

    Someone grab it, post echo-rules, E-list it ...

    I grabbed it, a long time ago, declared myself moderator,
    posted rules, and nobody noticed. I even elisted it in my
    notebook so nobody would ever hijack it.

    And then I lost my notebook. Never to be found again.

    That makes you the mod.

    --Lee

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Lee Lofaso on Fri May 13 19:06:08 2022
    Hi Lee,

    On 2022-05-13 19:01:09, you wrote to me:

    Have fun there, I'm not going to link another echo with another
    moderator

    There is no moderator in the DEBATE area! ;-)

    Bobby Queen retired from collecting echo tags years ago.
    At the time of his retirement, he owned 550+ echo tags.
    Not sure if that record will ever be broken ...

    I don't think there are that many areas left in Fidonet, certainly not active ones...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ward Dossche on Tue Jun 28 02:10:02 2022
    On 06-27-22 13:06, Ward Dossche <=-
    spoke to Alexander Koryagin about Re: ? <=-

    I just miss your rantings ... 8-)

    I suspect that he has somehow learned the truth about what Russia is
    doing and can no longer keep using the Putin propaganda lines.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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