• Chosen By God

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Tue Feb 8 16:52:42 2022
    Hello Everybody,

    "The assault on the Capitol was an effort to overthrow an elected
    government. Very explicitly, their claim was coming from Trump that
    the election was stolen, so let’s march on the Capitol and save our
    country from the stolen election. Well, an effort to overthrow an
    elected government is what’s called a coup. It almost succeeded.
    It’s now been reported extensively. We have videotapes, we have
    details. A few people, Republicans, in fact, refused to go along,
    and prevented the coup from succeeding. But it has been followed
    by a soft coup, which is taking place before our eyes. You read
    about it every day.

    "The Republicans are planning carefully to ensure that next time,
    their coup will succeed. They’re doing it very systematically,
    perfectly in the open, at the state level where elections take
    place, trying to ensure that the people who run the elections
    physically are there when you cast your vote, the election monitors
    make sure that they are right-wing Republicans, who will ensure
    that if people vote the wrong way, the vote won’t be counted.
    The Republican Party is no longer a political party. It’s a
    neofascist party.

    "The United States is a technologically advanced society, and
    culturally advanced, in some sectors, but culturally pre-modern
    in other sectors. That’s Trump’s voters, and he’s a very effective demagogue. He has succeeded in tapping the poisons that run right
    under the surface in American society, bringing them to the surface,
    mobilizing them. They are now a group who worship Il Duce, the leader
    chosen by God. He’s got them in his control. Those are the ones who
    stormed the Capitol, and are now planning to ensure that next time
    it’ll work. American democracy is in very serious danger."
    ~ Noam Chomsky, still around in his 90s

    --Lee

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    I think they bought a Jeep

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  • From Dennis Katsonis@3:633/384 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Feb 9 19:59:06 2022
    Re: Chosen By God
    By: Lee Lofaso to ALL on Tue Feb 08 2022 04:52 pm

    Hello Everybody,

    "The assault on the Capitol was an effort to overthrow an elected government. Very explicitly, their claim was coming from Trump that
    the election was stolen, so let's march on the Capitol and save our
    country from the stolen election. Well, an effort to overthrow an
    elected government is what's called a coup. It almost succeeded.
    It's now been reported extensively. We have videotapes, we have
    details. A few people, Republicans, in fact, refused to go along,
    and prevented the coup from succeeding. But it has been followed
    by a soft coup, which is taking place before our eyes. You read
    about it every day.

    "The Republicans are planning carefully to ensure that next time,
    their coup will succeed. They're doing it very systematically,
    perfectly in the open, at the state level where elections take
    place, trying to ensure that the people who run the elections
    physically are there when you cast your vote, the election monitors
    make sure that they are right-wing Republicans, who will ensure
    that if people vote the wrong way, the vote won't be counted.
    The Republican Party is no longer a political party. It's a
    neofascist party.

    "The United States is a technologically advanced society, and
    culturally advanced, in some sectors, but culturally pre-modern
    in other sectors. That's Trump's voters, and he's a very effective demagogue. He has succeeded in tapping the poisons that run right
    under the surface in American society, bringing them to the surface, mobilizing them. They are now a group who worship Il Duce, the leader
    chosen by God. He's got them in his control. Those are the ones who
    stormed the Capitol, and are now planning to ensure that next time
    it'll work. American democracy is in very serious danger."
    ~ Noam Chomsky, still around in his 90s

    --Lee

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    I think they bought a Jeep

    Good, then it should be easy to charge people with insurrection...

    I'm waiting. Have many people been charged so far?
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dennis Katsonis on Thu Feb 10 00:39:32 2022
    Hello Dennis,

    "The assault on the Capitol was an effort to overthrow an elected
    government. Very explicitly, their claim was coming from Trump that
    the election was stolen, so let's march on the Capitol and save our
    country from the stolen election. Well, an effort to overthrow an
    elected government is what's called a coup. It almost succeeded.

    Almost doesn't count.

    It's now been reported extensively. We have videotapes, we have
    details. A few people, Republicans, in fact, refused to go along,
    and prevented the coup from succeeding. But it has been followed
    by a soft coup, which is taking place before our eyes. You read
    about it every day.

    More than half of all Republicans believe Trump won the election,
    that the election was stolen due to voter fraud.

    "The Republicans are planning carefully to ensure that next time,
    their coup will succeed. They're doing it very systematically,
    perfectly in the open, at the state level where elections take
    place, trying to ensure that the people who run the elections
    physically are there when you cast your vote, the election monitors
    make sure that they are right-wing Republicans, who will ensure
    that if people vote the wrong way, the vote won't be counted.
    The Republican Party is no longer a political party. It's a
    neofascist party.

    Chomsky is a linguist, and does not mince words when telling a story.

    "The United States is a technologically advanced society, and
    culturally advanced, in some sectors, but culturally pre-modern
    in other sectors. That's Trump's voters, and he's a very effective
    demagogue. He has succeeded in tapping the poisons that run right
    under the surface in American society, bringing them to the surface,
    mobilizing them. They are now a group who worship Il Duce, the leader
    chosen by God. He's got them in his control. Those are the ones who
    stormed the Capitol, and are now planning to ensure that next time
    it'll work. American democracy is in very serious danger."
    ~ Noam Chomsky, still around in his 90s

    I think they bought a Jeep

    Good, then it should be easy to charge people with insurrection...

    Not sure if anybody bought a Jeep, as everyplace they went was
    well within walking distance.

    The Republican National Committee (RNC) has censured Rep. Liz Cheney
    and Adam Kinzinger because they are sitting on a Congressional panel
    trying to find out what happened on that day. And it did so by voice
    vote, being too chickenshit to do so by open ballot.

    Oscar Wilde once said there is no sin except stupidity.

    If the definition of sin is stupidity, the RNC's decision to
    portray a violent and extremist mob as patriots is profoundly
    politically sinful.

    This action by the RNC ties the entire party, along with its millions
    of honorable activists, to the violent actions of a few, who were all
    incited to riot by Donald Trump and his aides.

    If the RNC had chosen to leave it all alone, the American people
    would have eventually moved on to other subjects and forgotten all
    about the events of January 6.

    This was Stupid. Oscar-level Stupid.

    Makes Forrest Gump seem like a genius.

    Break glass in case of:
    LEGITIMATE POLITICAL DISCOURSE
    Republican National Committee

    I cannot underscore the fact enough - The RNC censured the
    representatives by voice vote, so that members aren't taking
    responsiblity individually for the lie.

    I'm waiting. Have many people been charged so far?

    A few hundred. With more to come. But that is not the issue.
    The majority of Republicans believe the lie, that Trump won the
    election - and that the election was stolen due to voter fraud.
    They view the actions taken by individuals on January 6 was
    "legitimate political discourse", and that members of Congress
    who disagree should be censured. Or even removed from office.

    Chomsky is right. There is no longer a Republican Party but
    a political sect. A "neofascist party" as Chomsky puts it.

    Imagine that. A party that once stood for obedience to law,
    personal responsibility, and respect for law enforcement -
    becoming what it is now. A party that calls the case of
    suppressing "legitimate political discourse" is the same
    as to portray criminals as victims.

    You got that? The insurrectionists of January 6 are heroes!
    Heroes of the RNC and Republicans everywhere! And all those
    who disagree are TRAITORS!

    US Senator and former Republican nominee for President Mitt
    Romney said of the censure that the two (Cheney and Kinzinger)
    deserve honor for sticking to their convictions.

    The mob incited to riot by then-president Donald Trump represents
    everything the Republican Party used to stand against.

    The RNC censure of Cheney and Kinzinger is just the beginning
    of the purge. It will not stop until all have been removed, or
    neutralized.

    Fascism with a smile. That is what we have coming to the USA.
    A lot sooner than you and others might want to think.

    --Lee

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  • From Dennis Katsonis@3:633/384 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Feb 10 20:27:00 2022
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    Hello Dennis,

    Almost doesn't count.

    More than half of all Republicans believe Trump won the election,
    that the election was stolen due to voter fraud.

    I recall that people were saying the same things in 2016, that the election was rigged. But that wasn't blown up by the media into a dangerous "conspiracy theory", despite being wide spread enough.


    For 4 years there were many who literally believed that Trump was a fascist, who would start WWIII, instigate pogroms and the like. That gives good motive to monkey with elections.

    Did they? I don't know, but the argument that no one would have doesn't hold. There would defiantely have been people who would have seen messing with ballots to stop Trump as the lesser of two evils.

    Chomsky is a linguist, and does not mince words when telling a story.

    Not sure if anybody bought a Jeep, as everyplace they went was
    well within walking distance.

    The Republican National Committee (RNC) has censured Rep. Liz Cheney
    and Adam Kinzinger because they are sitting on a Congressional panel trying to find out what happened on that day. And it did so by voice
    vote, being too chickenshit to do so by open ballot.

    Oscar Wilde once said there is no sin except stupidity.

    If the definition of sin is stupidity, the RNC's decision to
    portray a violent and extremist mob as patriots is profoundly
    politically sinful.

    This action by the RNC ties the entire party, along with its millions
    of honorable activists, to the violent actions of a few, who were all incited to riot by Donald Trump and his aides.

    If the RNC had chosen to leave it all alone, the American people
    would have eventually moved on to other subjects and forgotten all
    about the events of January 6.

    This was Stupid. Oscar-level Stupid.

    Makes Forrest Gump seem like a genius.

    Break glass in case of:
    LEGITIMATE POLITICAL DISCOURSE
    Republican National Committee

    I cannot underscore the fact enough - The RNC censured the
    representatives by voice vote, so that members aren't taking
    responsiblity individually for the lie.

    A few hundred. With more to come. But that is not the issue.
    The majority of Republicans believe the lie, that Trump won the
    election - and that the election was stolen due to voter fraud.
    They view the actions taken by individuals on January 6 was
    "legitimate political discourse", and that members of Congress
    who disagree should be censured. Or even removed from office.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/01/06/1070736018/jan-6-anniversary-investigation-cases-defendants-justice

    Arrests yes, but not really for insurrection.

    Chomsky is right. There is no longer a Republican Party but
    a political sect. A "neofascist party" as Chomsky puts it.

    Imagine that. A party that once stood for obedience to law,
    personal responsibility, and respect for law enforcement -
    becoming what it is now. A party that calls the case of
    suppressing "legitimate political discourse" is the same
    as to portray criminals as victims.

    You got that? The insurrectionists of January 6 are heroes!
    Heroes of the RNC and Republicans everywhere! And all those
    who disagree are TRAITORS!

    US Senator and former Republican nominee for President Mitt
    Romney said of the censure that the two (Cheney and Kinzinger)
    deserve honor for sticking to their convictions.

    The mob incited to riot by then-president Donald Trump represents everything the Republican Party used to stand against.

    The RNC censure of Cheney and Kinzinger is just the beginning
    of the purge. It will not stop until all have been removed, or neutralized.

    Fascism with a smile. That is what we have coming to the USA.
    A lot sooner than you and others might want to think.

    --Lee

    The Republicans have always stood, at least for a long time, for Big Business, crappy "Free Markets", plutocrats. They ignored middle America, didn't give a crap about them. Perhaps why they hated Trump. Trump appealed to the average American.

    Anyway, the fascist rot in America is well beyond the walls of the Republican party. Look at your Silicon Valley, your corporations, how they collude with the government.

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