I posted it on MicroNet because I wanted to. Your permission/approval
is not required.
Is that better? Happy now?
Oh dear ... eventually I'm going to start missing Janis if this nonsense
continues...
Why do you call it nonsense?
This echo and the Gazette should be left to rest in peace when Janisleft.
Should Fidonet have died when Tom Jennings left?
Why should this echo and the Gazette be left to rest in peace when Janis left?
Should Fidonet have died when Tom Jennings left?
Tom Jennings dropped out of Fidonet 29 years ago at a moment when we had already been bypassed by the reality of it. His relevance had already been reduced to next to nothing.
Why should this echo and the Gazette be left to rest in peace when Janis
left?
Because it's just as dead as a tonne of other echoes being kept alive solely by automated monthly posting by moderators...This echo is dead, the publication is dead and has been for years and years ...
That english looks pretty good to me ...
For the most part it is necessary to thank Google Translate :)
New episodes of To Catch a Predator will probably be airing soon ;)
Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Would you prefer that those echoes be killed off, and FidoNet take
yet another step closer to the grave?
I wonder ... how much is still alive ... that's a different
question than 'How many sysops are listed?" ... "How many still participate?" ... I think a lot fewer than we expect ...
There are whole regions with dysfunctional RCs ... nets with
dysfunctional NCs ... that is the reality. Nothing's being done
about it and if I dare raise the issue I'm the bogey-man that
needs to mind his own business.
Perhaps they'll be revived, now that it's under "new ownership". Why would you not want that to happen? What have you got to lose? Nobody
is asking you to do anything. Perhaps you should hush up and let others do things that are in the best interests of FidoNet.
OK ... I'll hush up and see how successful a publication the
Fidogazette is not going to be. Janis tried but other than
crossposting some messages from echoes and re-hashing old
material, not that much really happened.
The real problem is 'lack of contributors', 'lack of exciting
things' ... the same issues which confronts Fidonews. It's "the
people's publication", but if the people does not contribute then
it just does not happen.
At the moment I see no indicator for change. But you know what,
prove me wrong. I do not expect the new 'self appointed'
ownership is going to change a whole lot.
For such a long-standing and (supposed) proponent of FidoNet, you sure
do seem to hate it. Perhaps that's just your personal bias and grudges showing through?
Do us all a favor and go be a ZC, leaving the administration of an echo and a publication to those who actually do try to help FidoNet be better.
'The administration of an echo' ... hmmm ... how difficult must
it be? I run a number of international echoes ... mever must I
act, even hardly ever do I publish any rules.
But as said before ... prove me wrong.
Belgium is about Belgian waffles (which absolutely is 'not' a breakfast
food here), good chocolate, Brussels sprout, the Biskoff cookies they're
offering on Delta and United Airlines (here they're called Lotus, an
original Belgian product) and an incredible beer-culture.
DS' claim that Janis appointed him as successor.
Why should this echo and the Gazette be left to rest in peace when
Janis left?
Because it is a product of the zone wars. For all intents and purposes the Gazette was just a relic of this unfortuntate period. No one (exept maybe a few) want the zone wars to return.
I hate saying this because I do not like to speak ill of those no longer in
a postion to defend themselves, but Janis played a significant role in the zone wars. Letting this echo and the Gazette rest in peace after she left should have been a step in coming to closure.
What we see however is just the opposite. The self appointed moderator shows clear bias against Z2 participants in this echo. Has he moderated you in public for off-topic postings yet? No, in fact ALL of his off-topic warnings were against Z2 members.
What is happening now, reminds us of the zone wars in which the Gazette was used as a weapon. Instead of digging up and refurbishing this weapon, we should let it rest.
Cheers, Michiel--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
DS' claim that Janis appointed him as successor.
Janis made no publicly appointed successor that I saw.
I have never thought of the gazette being anything more than an
alternative fidonet newsletter.
Janis was always very nice to me. We didn't speak often but when we did
we always had easy conversations and she was always willing to help when she could.
Personally, I have no problem if Sean continues the gazette if that is
what he wants to do.
It was only after I suggested Jan.6th, that is 7 days after Janis disconnected "everything" (I think she only kept a cellphone), to nuke the echo that the circus started.
Sean Dennis was never appointed.
Just like T.J.Barlow collecting nodenumbers and hats, Sean collects moderator titles.
I have never thought of the gazette being anything more than an
alternative fidonet newsletter.
It was started because people not belonging to Z2, Z3, Z4, Z5 nor Z6 disliked Bjorn Felten...
Janis was always very nice to me. We didn't speak often but when we did
we always had easy conversations and she was always willing to help when
she could.
She was also the main instigator of the Fidonews debacle aided by Ross Cassel and Bob Seaborn. Surprisingly this ended when the one whose name we cannot mention broke ranks ... et voila ... the Fidogazette.
She was very very political ...
Have you ever met her in person?
Personally, I have no problem if Sean continues the gazette if that is
what he wants to do.
Sean historically is known for not finishing what he starts. He wanted to be in the FTSC, the question was raised, he claimed "I have changed" and nothing happened ... no change <period>.
So what's going to happen is he is going to produce 2-3 Fidogazette issues with crossposts and rehash stuff and then drop it. He hasn't got the stuff to perpetuate it. That's all.
Onward to my next Covid PCR test.
Around the time Janis left Sean announced that he was going to pick up
the gazette, and that is what he is doing.
Yes, it is necessary...
Too bad you won't stand up to that bully.
I have also collected moderator titles. I am not interested in moderator hats, I just want the echoes to carry on and be listed in the echolist so that interested parties can look them up and find info about them.
Have you ever met her in person?
No, Janis and I were linked nodes.
Onward to my next Covid PCR test.
I hope all your covid tests will be negative.
Janis left before the end of the previous year. Jan 6th I asked generally if we should nuke the echo and on walks Sean immediately afterwards claiming he was appointed ... he wasn't.
None of my echoes are listed in the echolist. They are just fine.
No, Janis and I were linked nodes.
In that case you have no true perception of the person.
I have no perception of the person?
Indeed I do, it's just different than yours.
DS' claim that Janis appointed him as successor.
Janis made no publicly appointed successor that I saw.
Because it is a product of the zone wars. For all intents and purposes
the Gazette was just a relic of this unfortuntate period. No one (exept
maybe a few) want the zone wars to return.
I have never thought of the gazette being anything more than an alternative
fidonet newsletter.
If you don't want zone wars then don't participate in them.
Personally, I have no problem if Sean continues the gazette if that is what he wants to do.
I have never thought of the gazette being anything more than an
alternative fidonet newsletter.
It was started because people not belonging to Z2, Z3, Z4, Z5 nor Z6 disliked Bjorn Felten...
Janis was always very nice to me. We didn't speak often but when we
did we always had easy conversations and she was always willing to
help when she could.
She was also the main instigator of the Fidonews debacle aided by Ross Cassel and Bob Seaborn.
Surprisingly this ended when the one whose name we cannot mention
broke ranks ... et voila ... the Fidogazette.
Around the time Janis left Sean announced that he was going to pick
up the gazette, and that is what he is doing.
Janis left before the end of the previous year. Jan 6th I asked
generally if we should nuke the echo and on walks Sean immediately afterwards claiming he was appointed ... he wasn't.
you don't have access to janis' and sean's netmails or emails and you certainly cannot intercept voice calls between them... you don't have the first clue what they may have discussed in private, whether written or vocally...
DS' claim that Janis appointed him as successor.
Janis made no publicly appointed successor that I saw.
Why should this echo and the Gazette be left to rest in peace when
Janis left?
Because it is a product of the zone wars. For all intents and
purposes the Gazette was just a relic of this unfortuntate period.
No one (exept maybe a few) want the zone wars to return.
I have never thought of the gazette being anything more than an alternative fidonet newsletter.
If you don't want zone wars then don't participate in them.
I hate saying this because I do not like to speak ill of those no
longer in a postion to defend themselves, but Janis played a
significant role in the zone wars. Letting this echo and the Gazette
rest in peace after she left should have been a step in coming to
closure.
Janis was always very nice to me. We didn't speak often but when we
did we always had easy conversations and she was always willing to
help when she could.
That may be different to your experience but that is what I know of
her.
Let it rest if that is what you want to do.
Personally, I have no problem if Sean continues the gazette if that is what he wants to do.
She was also the main instigator of the Fidonews debacle aided by Ross Cassel and Bob Seaborn. Surprisingly this ended when the one whose
name we cannot mention broke ranks
that was 2 days after the one whose name we're not allowed to mention tried to turn me in for narcotics transport at JFK-airport.
that was 2 days after the one whose name we're not allowed tomention
tried to turn me in for narcotics transport at JFK-airport.
My prime suspect for that incident was, and still is Thom LaCosta...
But I think it was the one whose name we're not supposed to mention who knew the flightnumber and the arrival time. Close to 19 years ago and
some of the details may be becoming blurry.
As long it's not your eye sight, but then old age affects everything :)
mark lewis wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
it wasn't public but neither was my giving the INTERNET
echotag to the new moderator over there, either... same
with the HAM related FDNs and some other echos i was
maintaining when i gave them away several years ago...
mark lewis wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
that's exactly what it is...
same here... more power to him, too... and if someone wants
to start a 3rd or 4th alternative newsletter, i have no
problem with that, either...
You're also peeing on your feet?
She sent me an email. If Ward, Michiel, et al. are worried, they can
email her and ask.
(It's nice to know I live rent free in Ward's and Michiel's heads though.
I don't feel so lonely anymore! <G>)
I take no offense if someone has a better idea than I do.
She sent me an email. If Ward, Michiel, et al. are worried, they can
email her and ask.
No we can't.
Janis went completely off-line ... if we can't mail her, neither can you.
No we can't.
Janis went completely off-line ... if we can't mail her, neither
can you.
yes you can... she has a gmail account or didn't you know about that?
She sent me an email.
If Ward, Michiel, et al. are worried, they can email her and ask.
No we can't.
Janis went completely off-line ... if we can't mail her, neither
can you.
yes you can... she has a gmail account or didn't you know about that?
Why should we know about that?
This is Fidonet, the means of communication in Fidonet is netmail.
if you were one of those that might have a need to contact her outside of fidonet, then she would have given it to you...
.. i get applications sent to me ...
... as well as helping other operators with their configs...
... not
to mention that people can easily check their email on their phones but
not their netmail for numerous reasons...
You're also peeing on your feet?
Solved that issue by sitting down on the seat plus it took too long standing.
if you were one of those that might have a need to contact her
outside of fidonet, then she would have given it to you...
I have her phone-# ... does that count?
.. i get applications sent to me ...
Sure ... then how come we notice no growth?
... as well as helping other operators with their configs...
So you're claiming most other Fidonet sysops are morons because they
need to be helped?
... not to mention that people can easily check their email on their
phones but not their netmail for numerous reasons...
I can read netmail via my phone ...
^^^^^^^^^^^^Janis went completely off-line ... if we can't mail her,
neither can you.
yes you can...
she has a gmail account or didn't you know about that?
Why should we know about that?
if you were one of those that might have a need to contact her outside
of fidonet, then she would have given it to you...
** On Sunday 16.01.22 - 16:22, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to mark lewis:
But you are the plaintiff. The burden is on you it would seem.
But you are the plaintiff. The burden is on you it would seem.
But you are the plaintiff. The burden is on you it would seem.
This is not a court of law, there is no plaintiff. This is
a discussion area where someone made a claim. The burden of
proof is always on the one making the claim.
But you are the plaintiff. The burden is on you it would seem.
Nope, not if we are just ignoring the rules and tell Sean he can shove it up his ass. Now he can try to enforce the rules ;-P
This is not a court of law, there is no plaintiff. This is
a discussion area where someone made a claim. The burden of
proof is always on the one making the claim.
Maybe plaintiff or claim doesn't translate well in your native
language.. dunno. :/
Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. Sean merely made a
statement/announcement of new moderatorship, but he doesn't have
release phone records or email records to the general public like you
are suggesting.
The proof in the legit hand-over is in the successful elisting. Sean wouldn't be able to do that unless Janis provided the password. ;)
What is the issue if Sean continues on with the gazette?
I can read netmail via my phone ...
not everyone has your majikal skillz, ward...
Not that I want or need to. I am not going to e-mail Janis. Because I see no reason, It is Sean that claims he got an e-mail from Janis. The burden of proof is on him.
What is the issue if Sean continues on with the gazette?
Sean will never be able to provide the same amount of content
to the FG than this exchange of ideas is doing here ...
I'm patiently waiting for the next issue ...
I wasn't talking about content, I was asking what is the issue if Sean continues the gazette.
Suppose that *I* had posted a message in here claiming the position of moderator of this echo and the position of the editor of the Gazette.
Suppose *I* had posted rules stating among other things that EP1 is in force here and that no echolist is accepted as authoritive regarding who is moderator and what are the rules. Suppose *I* had followed up with postings telling participants that their postings are off topic and to take it elsewhere.
How would you (and Sean) respond to that? Would it be acceptable to you? Would you comply with my rulings?
It reminds me of the times when Janis claimed to have secret
conversations with Bin Li ... ZC6 ... we never saw then and some of us tried to phone him ...
Or maybe it doesn't translate well into YOUR native
language? Neither of us is a native English speaker,
but I have lived and worked in an English speaking
country.
Sean claimed that he had received a netmail from Janis. The
burden of proof for that claim is on him.
The proof in the legit hand-over is in the successful
elisting. Sean wouldn't be able to do that unless Janis
provided the password. ;)
Sorry, the history of Fidonet has many examples of faul
play. That he managed to get a password for an e-list means
nothing to me. E-lists are not recognised as authoritive in
these matters in most parts of Fidonet anyway.
I wasn't talking about content, I was asking what is the issue if Sean
continues the gazette.
None. He can do as he pleases.
Sean never finishes what he starts so eventually maybe other than an autopost claimimg he's the moderator and doing auto-Elist-updates nothing will happen after a few issues were produced.
Besides, Sean was the original creator of the echo (and newsletter)
too. It seems appopriate for Sean to carry its torch
Sean will need content for the gazette and that is the hard part.
..I say he had his chance and he blew it. He is last in
line, not first.
It reminds me of the times when Janis claimed to have secret
conversations with Bin Li ... ZC6 ... we never saw then and some of Mv>WD> us tried to phone him ...
I was one of them.
And.. as he stated, the success of the mag would primarily
depend on submissions.
I have also collected moderator titles. I am not
interested in moderator hats, I just want the echoes to
carry on and be listed in the echolist so that interested
parties can look them up and find info about them.
None of my echoes are listed in the echolist. They are just fine.
Alan Ianson wrote to Oli <=-
But you are the plaintiff. The burden is on you it would seem.
Nope, not if we are just ignoring the rules and tell Sean he can shove it up his ass. Now he can try to enforce the rules ;-P
Why do you ignore the rules?
What is the issue if Sean continues on with the gazette?
Does it matter if Janis passed it to him or if he carries on?
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to August Abolins <=-
Besides, Sean was the original creator of the echo (and newsletter)
too. It seems appopriate for Sean to carry its torch
On the contrary! Sean was indeed the original creator of the echo
and he ABANDONNED it after a relatively short time. Others took
over. I say he had his chance and he blew it. He is last in line,
not first.
Ward Dossche wrote to August Abolins <=-
And.. as he stated, the success of the mag would primarily
depend on submissions.
If "I" write something, it goes into Fidonews ... that's the
historical time track of events ...
Let's see how much stuff Sean will publish after he's done
Khrapping on Michiel and me?
I can read netmail via my phone ...
not everyone has your majikal skillz, ward...
There are at least 2 packages for Android phones which will do Fido...
Besides, Sean was the original creator of the echo (and newsletter)
too. It seems appopriate for Sean to carry its torch
On the contrary! Sean was indeed the original creator of the echo and he ABANDONNED it after a relatively short time.
None of my echoes are listed in the echolist. They are just fine.
And how do people learn what those echos are?
those are point packages, IIRC... how can they read netmail addressed to your node?
even so, not everyone has an android phone... i don't...
On the contrary! Sean was indeed the original creator of the echo
and he ABANDONNED it after a relatively short time.
he did not abandon it... he gave it to janis... your history sucks...
You could do that if you wanted to.
In this case Sean beat you to it. Is it possible you and Sean could
work together on the gazette.
How would you (and Sean) respond to that? Would it be acceptable to
you? Would you comply with my rulings?
Sure, if you were an editor/co-editor of the gazette and the echo and
you made realistic rulings.
First you snub my use of the term plaintiff because this matter
is not in court of law, yet you use "burden of proof" where
that term is use quite normally in court. Ah.. have I stumbled
into the Court of MvdV? :/
Sure, if you were an editor/co-editor of the gazette and the echo and
you made realistic rulings.
Realistic rules... Realistic according to whose judgement?
Sean will need content for the gazette and that is the hard part.
Oh yeah, the FidoNews is chock full of submissions/content.
What a joke. I haven't seen a *SINGLE* submission there in MONTHS
(at least).
Give it a rest you fucking jackwagon.
Sure, if you were an editor/co-editor of the gazette and the echo
and you made realistic rulings.
Realistic rules... Realistic according to whose judgement?
The users of this area.
But you are the plaintiff. The burden is on you it would seem.
Nope, not if we are just ignoring the rules and tell Sean he can shove
it up his ass. Now he can try to enforce the rules ;-P
Why do you ignore the rules?
What is the issue if Sean continues on with the gazette?
Does it matter if Janis passed it to him or if he carries on?
Why do you ignore the rules?
Because I can, because Sean does ignore his own rules too? Because why do I need to care about Sean's same rules in every fucking echo he's grabbed?
What is the issue if Sean continues on with the gazette?
Does it matter if Janis passed it to him or if he carries on?
I don't have any issue with that. Most of the issues I skimmed had even less content than Fidonews (meaning no new content beside the political quote from Janis). But if he is committed, why not.
The whole thing is pretty ridiculous. Ward attacking "Nuke the echo", Sean defending by self-appointing him as moderator and posting rules. Michiel asking for proof and questioning Janis gender. Everyone blabbering about zone wars and some stories from the past that have been told over and over again...
Realistic rules... Realistic according to whose judgement?
The users of this area.
What if there is no concensus among those users?
An election?
Michiel asking for proof and questioning Janis gender.
Realistic rules... Realistic according to whose judgement?
The users of this area.
What if there is no concensus among those users?
What makes you think there is no concensus?
What if there is no concensus among those users?
What makes you think there is no concensus?
What makes you think I think there is no concensus?
I posed an "if" question. I made no statement regarding the status of the "if"
Sean has a big mouth and will not deliver, he's famous for that.
He won't get past issue #5 because there will be no decent content,
no-one will write it every week and he surely won't either ... and you know I'm right.
Michiel asking for proof and questioning Janis gender.
What if there is no concensus among those users?
What makes you think there is no concensus?
Sean has a big mouth and will not deliver, he's famous for
that.
He won't get past issue #5 because there will be no decent
content, no-one will write it every week and he surely
won't either ... and you know I'm right.
The principle of "the burden of proof is on the one making
the claim" is used in science. That is where I come from.
The principle of "the burden of proof is on the one making
the claim" is used in science. That is where I come from.
My understanding of "burden of proof" (BOP) is that it only
comes into play when the claim is of an accusatory nature:
And, as I pointed it out it is very easy for Janis to have
communicated the necessary password for elist purposes.
Occam's razor comes to mind. ;)
No need to delve into complex theories of foul play. That's much more complicated.
You are presupposing that the newsletter will be weekly and
mirrors the current Fidonews model. What if Sean decides to
make it a monthly, ....
It could be a whole new
approach to a newsletter, one that you've never seen before.
If Janis did indeed choose Sean as her intended successor
and gave him the password, why did she not inform her
readers when she announced her departure?
There is no need for complexity. It would not be the first
time that there was intervention from the e-list keeper to
recover a "stranded" listing...
I would not call it foul play if the e-list keeper had marked the
listing as "available" when Janis left.
Unfortunately the sad reality is that foul play has been a
significant factor on many occasions in Fidonet.
He has already failed to deliver. The Gazette was a weekly
publication, to be published each end every Monday. On Jan 6th, Sean announced his take over, effective _immidiately_.
Today is the SECOND Monday after that announcement. No Gazette...
OK, I take it back. I just received the first copy of the New
Gazette.
Yes, but there's nothing in it...It's a pile of self-idolizing and
mental masturbation ... the FreeBSD compile stuff is, as the name
says, free ... nothing Eartshattering.
The only thing I really found funny is ...
"Am I getting older or is the supermarket finally playing great music?"
... but even in humour there's nothing authentic. It's stolen as well.
OK, now wait a week and see wazzup and what follows...
If Janis did indeed choose Sean as her intended successor
and gave him the password, why did she not inform her
readers when she announced her departure?
Methinks that you would need to ask Janis. Google revealed her
@gmail address quite readily at a Synchronet-based BBS.
In the last few weeks she announced frustrations in getting a
replacement pc operating. Meanwhile, maybe a completely
different matter (ie. family|health) arose and became a
priority. Give her a break.
There is no need for complexity. It would not be the first
time that there was intervention from the e-list keeper to
recover a "stranded" listing...
Now it sounds like you would need to ask the elist-keeper. ;)
There is no point expounding on maybees and whatifs. You know
how to contact people directly if you want.
Just do what I do: ignore them.
They are not worth giving attention with their long history of
histrionics, lying, backstabbing, and [insert your favorite noun here].
With my near-death experience in 2020, I learned that time is too
precious to waste it on those who are not worth it.
OK, I take it back. I just received the first copy of the New Gazette.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Oh yeah, the FidoNews is chock full of submissions/content.
What a joke. I haven't seen a *SINGLE* submission there in MONTHS
(at least).
You missed my article in the first issue of this year?
How many articles did YOU write for Fidonews in the last decade?
Sean Dennis wrote to Dan Clough <=-
There isn't one. The above mentioned assholes just like to cause problems, and are resistive to ANY change. I think that they actually also believe that their "knowledge" of ancient-history FidoNet gives
them some kind of power, or something.
Just do what I do: ignore them. I have "cheated" and fired up my
twit filter, putting both Ward and Michiel in it along with a few
other people, mainly from Zone 2. I could try to moderate them
but since Ward and his sycophants helped "decentralize" Fidonet,
Ward would just find another feed somewhere or create a strawman,
much like how Bjorn Felten has been participating in the POLITICS
echo as Lee Lofaso (and other echoes) after being banned in that
echo in the early "naughties".
They are not worth giving attention with their long history of histrionics, lying, backstabbing, and [insert your favorite noun
here]. They are part of the "old guard", a.k.a. the "Fido
Lords", who are dying off (some cases quite literally).
We have better things to do.
Instead of talking about these people, may I invite you to write
some content for the FG and put your energy to good use?
How many articles did YOU write for Fidonews in the last decade?
None. But I'm not the one bitching about it and the Gazette.
Oh yeah, the FidoNews is chock full of submissions/content.
What a joke. I haven't seen a *SINGLE* submission there in MONTHS (at least). It's just an automated posting of lame useless bullshit, like
how many IPV6 nodes there are, and a list of retro software. Every
single issue is exactly the same. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
Yes indeed. I've nearly bitten off most of my tongue already trying
not to respond to them, but I'll try harder.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-
How many articles did YOU write for Fidonews in the last decade?
None. But I'm not the one bitching about it and the Gazette.
= start quote ===
Oh yeah, the FidoNews is chock full of submissions/content.
What a joke. I haven't seen a *SINGLE* submission there in MONTHS (at least). It's just an automated posting of lame useless bullshit, like
how many IPV6 nodes there are, and a list of retro software. Every
single issue is exactly the same. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
=== end quote ===
Onward and upward.
Why drag me into this? :-)
<groan>
But don't get too excited. The first "ward" could work as a
compliment, but the second one not so much. ;)
Okay, you're slower than I thought. Let me clarify what I thought was already obvious:
Onward and upward.
Why drag me into this? :-)
Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Okay, you're slower than I thought. Let me clarify what I thought was already obvious:
The fact you have to explain yourself, is a revelation on its
own.
"Dossche's Law #6 on electronic communications" applies to you ..
#6
"If a person needs several paragraphs to say something
basic, it's nonsense or a lie ... unless you happen to be
Jane Austen or Vera Brittain, then it's like poetry"
"Dossche's Law #6 on electronic communications" applies to you ..
"Dossche's Law #6 on electronic communications" applies to you ..
I would love to see these laws in one go, perhaps in one the Fido mags?
I've been toying with the idea to turn them into an article ...
Maybe ...
Do you take "Fidonews" ?
You don't *have* to defend him, you know.
Just because he's a fellow "old guard" Fido dude doesn't mean he's
not an asshole. It *could* mean that you're both assholes.
Just because he's a fellow "old guard" Fido dude doesn't mean he's
not an asshole. It *could* mean that you're both assholes.
Don't try to immitate the one whose name we're not supposed to
mention, he mastered the art.
Do you take "Fidonews" ?
Yep, I appreciated your article on when you caught covid, very canid and informative. Your one lucky man.
Thank you sir.
In Thailand, if they called you sir and it was pronounced a certain way
it could be nasty. (sticks & stones)
The only thing I know about Thailand a bit, is the cuisine ... I like
it ... a lot.
Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-
You don't *have* to defend him, you know.
Just because he's a fellow "old guard" Fido dude doesn't mean he's
not an asshole. It *could* mean that you're both assholes.
Don't try to immitate the one whose name we're not supposed to
mention, he mastered the art.
The only thing I know about Thailand a bit, is the cuisine ... I like it ... a >ot.
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