• ::: NEWS ::: Telegram-based BBS Echos

    From Fred Riccio@1:132/174 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 15 12:41:02 2020
    Hello August!

    15 Nov 20 01:13, August Abolins wrote to All:

    With these links, you can participate in the following echos
    with a Telegram-based BBS:

    Have you contacted the moderators of those echos to verify it is OK to make them available over the internet?

    --- Msged/NT 6.0.1
    * Origin: Somewhere in New Hampshire's White Mountains (1:132/174)
  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Richard Miles on Sat Nov 21 20:15:50 2020
    Richard wrote:
    Multiple Synchronet boards have their messages open to the web as well.

    But you still have to be authenticated to the BBS you're on if you wish to respond. Same with a BBS with an NNTP interface. You can read but no login, no reply.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Nigel Reed on Sun Nov 22 05:47:24 2020
    On 21 Nov 2020, Nigel Reed said the following...

    But you still have to be authenticated to the BBS you're on if you wish
    to respond. Same with a BBS with an NNTP interface. You can read but no login, no reply.

    That's not the issue that has been brought up though. You also have to be authenticated before you can access fido messages through Telegram or
    download messages to an offline reader as well. The issue that was brought up was that some folks were concerned about their messages being able to be accessed online through a different internet service.

    -=>Richard Miles<=-
    -=>Captain Obvious<=-
    -=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Shadowscope BBS | bbs.shadowscope.com | Temple, GA (1:3634/24)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Nigel Reed on Sun Nov 22 08:57:00 2020
    Hello Nigel!

    ** On Saturday 21.11.20 - 22:20, Nigel Reed wrote to Charles Pierson:

    It's the same with Telegram. You have to have an
    authenticated Telegram account in order to join any of the
    group chats to be able to read or write.

    And therein lies the difference. It's a telgram account.
    It's not an access method controlled by any BBS on
    Fidonet. What if the person causes problems such as
    posting junk or spam? How are they removed or forbidden
    from posting?

    I invite you to hop on over to FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo where
    people can answer specific questions like that.

    But for a quick answer, the solution to the how a user is
    banned is very easy - and universal. Once the person is
    disallowed, they can never get back in the group unless they
    change their phone number - and are reauthenticated by the
    Telegram system. Using throw-away one-time-use numbers are
    also heavily scrutinized by Telegram - and many of those are
    automaticaly banned at the outset. For the most part,
    Telegram seems to only allow phone numbers that can be
    associated with acutal phone carriers, not virtual ones.

    Further, there *is* a BBS system in the middle, before
    messages reach Fidonet. A user can be filtered out at that
    point too.
    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: (2:221/1.58)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Oli on Mon Nov 23 02:40:16 2020
    Re: ::: NEWS ::: Telegram-based BBS Echos
    By: Oli to August Abolins on Mon Nov 23 2020 10:19 am

    Is FIDONET.TELEGRAM fidonet-only or is it gated to Telegram?

    It is a fidonet echo and it is linked with telegram also.

    Btw, which node is responsible for the gateway?

    I think it is Stas Mishchenkov at 2:460/58.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... I am a Klingon, sir. I do NOT whistle while I work!
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Nigel Reed on Mon Nov 23 14:17:44 2020
    Hi Nigel,

    On 2020-11-23 07:00:28, you wrote to August Abolins:

    I invite you to hop on over to FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo where
    people can answer specific questions like that.

    Is TELEGRAM an official echo on the backbone? Neither hub I use have it.

    We have a link. I have it! ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Nigel Reed on Mon Nov 23 21:21:00 2020
    Hi Nigel,

    On 2020-11-23 11:29:17, you wrote to me:

    Is TELEGRAM an official echo on the backbone? Neither hub I use
    have
    it.

    We have a link. I have it! ;-)

    Well, this was recently added then. I have to subscribe to it.

    Yes, it's a new echomail area...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)