• Re: FidoGazette Vol 13 ne

    From Simon Geddes@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Mon Sep 23 21:19:00 2019
    Yes, it can give you a traditional phone and telephone number. The "dongle" I have plugs into a power source and has two ports... one is an ethernet jack that I plug into my router, and the other is a phone jack where one can plug in a traditional phone or, in my case, run the line
    to the home phone jack so that the whole house is wired (if you do this, you have to make sure the old phone box on the outside of the house is disconnected!).

    It also allows me to install an app on a smart phone that gives you
    "home" phone capability (and free texts) on the smart phone.

    Interesting. I wonder if this is a difference in the respective markets. Cell/smart phone penetrance is so massive here a lot of people, below say 50, have forgotten about the existence of a phone wired to a socket in the house (whether analogue or VoIP). I'm not sure it would make a lot of sense to that segment, who have phone contracts with thousands of free voice minutes each month, to use a tethered connection.

    For me, I don't make 'voice' calls on the landline anymore - just the mobile. It's only used for BBSing.

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  • From Simon Geddes@1:103/705 to Rob Swindell on Fri Sep 20 15:59:00 2019

    Forgive my ignorance...what's a POTS line? Is this the same as an
    analogue
    landline?

    Yes. POTS = Plain Old Telephone System/Service.

    Ah ha! Thank you.

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  • From Simon Geddes@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 20 16:10:00 2019
    Some VOIP providers may allow the end user to configure their VOIP protocols some. I have heard that mentioned before and folks who know which ones to tweak seemed to not have troubles like others do. Other providers do not apparently allow the tweaking. I do not see any way to
    do it with my Magic Jack, for example. I only use it for voice.

    I don't think Magic Jack is something that has made it across the pond yet. Most people's VoIP usage is via Skype or similar. How does it work, from an end-user perspective? Does it give you a traditional style phone just hooked up to your internet connection? Do you have a traditional-style telephone number?

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  • From Simon Geddes@1:103/705 to Andrei Rachita on Fri Sep 20 16:13:00 2019
    At 10:25 AM on 20 Sep 19, Andrei Rachita said to Simon Geddes:

    Hi Simon,

    You would need a VoIP provider that offers G711a as a codec. Modems
    don't seem to work with G729, or at least for me it didn't.
    You will also need an analogue telephone adaptor or ATA that will
    convert VoIP to analogue, so that the modem can talk over VoIP.
    I personally recommend AudioCodes MP series like the MP114.
    As a modem I use a courrier 56K V.Everything, serial and managed to get 33600 bps connections to some BBSes.

    If you need more info, feel free to ping me.

    Fantastic, thank you. Will save this message for future reference. As things stand, I have working dial-up connectivity over the analogue line to other UK boards. Will be good to know the options should things change as the infrastructure is upgraded over time.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Simon Geddes on Fri Sep 27 18:23:00 2019
    Interesting. I wonder if this is a difference in the respective markets. Cell/smart phone penetrance is so massive here a lot of people, below say 50, have forgotten about the existence of a phone wired to a socket in the house (whether analogue or VoIP). I'm not sure it would make a lot of sense to that segment, who have phone contracts with thousands of free voice minutes each month, to use a tethered connection.

    Most people here don't think of having a home phone any more, either. I am guessing the market is more for people who still want one. I am almost 50,
    so maybe you are right. :)

    Mike

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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Sat Sep 28 05:55:36 2019
    Re: Re: FidoGazette Vol 13 ne
    By: Mike Powell to SIMON GEDDES on Fri Sep 27 2019 06:19 pm

    Most people here don't think of having a home phone any more, either. I am guessing the market is more for people who still want one. I am almost 50, so maybe you are right. :)

    Mike

    You know, in Spain, ISPs are giving the home phone line for free with their home Internet packages. This way, ltos of people end up having a home phone but it does not actually see much use anymore.
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  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to Richard Falken on Sun Sep 29 10:09:24 2019
    Hi Richard,

    On Sep 28, 2019 05:55am, Richard Falken wrote to Mike Powell:

    You know, in Spain, ISPs are giving the home phone line for free with their home Internet packages. This way, ltos of people end up having a home phone but it does not actually see much use anymore.

    Same in Australia but juding by the younger generation (my children) they
    don't even connect a phone, they are probably right to do this as most nusicance calls are on a home phone line.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Richard Falken on Sat Sep 28 20:32:00 2019
    You know, in Spain, ISPs are giving the home phone line for free with their >home Internet packages. This way, ltos of people end up having a home phone but
    it does not actually see much use anymore.

    Our local utility company includes home phone service if you want it, and
    the rate is reduced if you also have cable and internet with them (they
    also supply our electric and water, but there is no extra discount there!).
    I have a line with them, which I use for my dial-up bbs, as the magic jacks
    are not as good for data.

    If they gave them away for free, I might have more than one dial-up line! :O

    Mike

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Mike Powell on Sat Sep 28 11:45:00 2019
    Mike,

    Most people here don't think of having a home phone any more, either. I am MP>guessing the market is more for people who still want one. I am almost 50,

    Compared to me, you're still a puppy. <G> But, I'm likely that to
    others in here. :P

    Daryl


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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Terry Roati on Sun Sep 29 07:40:40 2019
    Re: Re: FidoGazette Vol 13 ne
    By: Terry Roati to Richard Falken on Sun Sep 29 2019 10:09 am


    Same in Australia but juding by the younger generation (my children) they don't even connect a phone, they are probably right to do this as most
    nusicance calls are on a home phone line.

    Terry Roati - 3:640/1321 tfb-bbs.org

    I think part of the problem with home lines is that the actual home phone lacks the blacklisting
    capabilities of a smartphone, or even a feature phone. The second time a mexican phones to your
    cellphone, you block him. Many fixed home phones lack that option.

    I still have a home line that was not given away for free because I need the reliability.
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  • From Deon George@3:633/509 to Terry Roati on Mon Sep 30 09:01:52 2019
    Re: Re: FidoGazette Vol 13 ne
    By: Terry Roati to Richard Falken on Sun Sep 29 2019 10:09 am

    Same in Australia but juding by the younger generation (my children) they don't even connect a phone, they are probably right to do this as most
    nusicance calls are on a home phone line.

    So I have a landline, only because my internet was cheaper if I had it. Nothing is plugged into it though, and hasnt been for atleast 5 years. (Ridiculus right?)

    Anyway, I got a lot of nusance calls on my mobile now - and my mobile is not even in my name. But it is the number I use when filling in any form "whats your number". So somebody is selling that info, and
    spammers are calling me on it.

    They clever, as they are manipulating the caller ID - making calls appear local, (local city, state or Australia).
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  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to Richard Falken on Mon Sep 30 10:06:46 2019
    Hi Richard,

    On Sep 29, 2019 07:40am, Richard Falken wrote to Terry Roati:

    I think part of the problem with home lines is that the actual home
    phone lacks the blacklisting

    I bought a Sentry device some years back which has very successful in blocking nuisance calls.

    capabilities of a smartphone, or even a feature phone. The second time a mexican phones to your
    cellphone, you block him. Many fixed home phones lack that option.

    In Australia, most nuisance calls are from Indian call centres and now they even use robo callers so they can already determine a level of gullibility.

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  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to Deon George on Mon Sep 30 10:27:06 2019
    Hello Deon,

    On Sep 30, 2019 09:01am, Deon George wrote to Terry Roati:

    So I have a landline, only because my internet was cheaper if I had it. Nothing is plugged into it though, and hasnt been for atleast 5 years. (Ridiculus right?)

    Lots of the younger folk doing this, very understandable now that all calls to landlines and mobiles are free.

    Anyway, I got a lot of nusance calls on my mobile now - and my mobile
    is not even in my name. But it is the number I use when filling in any form "whats your number". So somebody is selling that info, and
    spammers are calling me on it.

    This is happening far too often.

    They clever, as they are manipulating the caller ID - making calls
    appear local, (local city, state or Australia).
    ...ëîåã

    All you can do is use an APP like TrueCallers which helps block most nuisance calls.

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  • From Deon George@3:633/509 to Terry Roati on Mon Sep 30 14:02:52 2019
    Re: Re: FidoGazette Vol 13 ne
    By: Terry Roati to Deon George on Mon Sep 30 2019 10:27 am

    All you can do is use an APP like TrueCallers which helps block most
    nuisance calls.

    Ahh, thanks for the tip. I've been thinking of looking for something like this (or creating one) - so I'll give it a try.
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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Deon George on Mon Sep 30 14:59:28 2019
    Re: Re: FidoGazette Vol 13 ne
    By: Deon George to Terry Roati on Mon Sep 30 2019 02:12 pm

    All you can do is use an APP like TrueCallers which helps block most
    nuisance calls.

    Ahh, thanks for the tip. I've been thinking of looking for something like this (or creating one) - so I'll give it a try.
    ...δεσπ

    Be careful. I suspect many call filtering apps are actually harvesting information from users. The ammount of permissions some need to work is worrying.
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Richard Falken on Mon Sep 30 12:59:00 2019
    I think part of the problem with home lines is that the actual home phone la RF>the blacklisting
    capabilities of a smartphone, or even a feature phone. The second time a RF>mexican phones to your
    cellphone, you block him. Many fixed home phones lack that option.

    There is a free app for Android phones and iPhones (Google Play and
    the iPhone Store, respectively) called CALL DETECTOR. It blocks all
    these scam, nuisance, telemarketing, charity, political, jail, and other
    calls. You can even block specific area codes, such as toll free
    numbers, and tell it to block unlisted numbers.

    Unfortunately, no such deal exists for landlines...this is only for smartphones.

    Daryl


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