It's awfully quiet in here ...

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Are they even still doing the FidoGazette? I thought they had stopped
with that.

Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

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Hello Drew Klenotic!

Are they even still doing the FidoGazette? I thought they
had stopped with that.

Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

Most likely there is not even enough material for another
newsletter to re-establish the FidoGazette. Most echos are
devoid of interesting chatter. What kind of newsletter would
reflect that? - an empty one perhaps. :(

I *do* miss the top echo list that showed the weekly message
counts.

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Hello August,

On Monday February 13 2023 22:44, you wrote to Drew Klenotic:

Most likely there is not even enough material for another
newsletter to re-establish the FidoGazette. Most echos are
devoid of interesting chatter. What kind of newsletter would
reflect that? - an empty one perhaps. :(

The Fidogazette is dead. Let it rest in peace.


Cheers, Michiel

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August,

I *do* miss the top echo list that showed the weekly message
counts.

That's just the message count at one site ... I think.

It is just as meaningful as somenone posting the route a particular echo follows ... that only is significant for that particular echo ...

\%/@rd

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Hi August,

On 2023-02-13 22:44:00, you wrote to Drew Klenotic:

I *do* miss the top echo list that showed the weekly message
counts.

Just connect to the STATS echo, there are multiple echo mail lists showing counts every day. ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

I *do* miss the top echo list that showed the weekly
message counts.

Just connect to the STATS echo, there are multiple echo
mail lists showing counts every day. ;-)

I have. But..

Janis' was the best design.
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Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

Maybe it's a matter of getting used to?

Getting used to the limited versions, yes. :(

Or else you will have to create your own. ;-)

As a "user" I cannot. But I seem to remember that the ones in
STATS are quite limited and often just list the top-10 active
ones only. Janis' at least covered most of the ELIST ones.
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I would think that now, more than ever, those echo message counts would
be important when deciding what echos are worth trying out.

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Hi August,

On 2023-02-14 18:59:00, you wrote to me:

Or else you will have to create your own. ;-)

As a "user" I cannot. But I seem to remember that the ones in
STATS are quite limited and often just list the top-10 active
ones only. Janis' at least covered most of the ELIST ones.

There are currently 4 active systems that post an echo area list. 2 Post only about the active echo's on their system. 2 Others post a complete list of all echo areas on their system. 1 Of those also posts a Top 10 list in the same message. And nothing much has changed in the last couple of years, so I think you remember it wrong...

So I think all the information you want is there, but maybe not in the form you were used to by Janis.
And Janis's was a big system, with most areas (which probably were mostly empty for a big part of them)...

Bye, Wilfred.

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I have. But..

Janis' was the best design.

I will never understand "stats"... those that collect them, those that
read them, the idea that one can judge whats a good echo or not based on
an arbitrary number of posts. Especially busy-idiots who post them routinely as part of some stupid script out of a need to feel important.

Some echoes have lots of messages but are completely devoid of any interesting content while others have only a few posts but can be very interesting.

Nick

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Nick wrote (2023-02-15):

I have. But..

Janis' was the best design.

I will never understand "stats"... those that collect them, those that read them, the idea that one can judge whats a good echo or not based on an arbitrary number of posts. Especially busy-idiots who post them routinely as part of some stupid script out of a need to feel important.

Nick is the greatest ->whatever-comes-to-mind<-, everybody else's motivation sucks.

Some echoes have lots of messages but are completely devoid of any interesting content while others have only a few posts but can be very interesting.

q.e.d.

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On 15 Feb 23 17:37:00, Oli said the following to Nick Andre:

Nick is the greatest ->whatever-comes-to-mind<-, everybody else's motivation sucks.

Your "Next" key appears to stop working whenever you encounter my messages.

I'll grab some popcorn while you get that fixed.

Nick

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Some echoes have lots of messages but are completely devoid of any

nteresting

content while others have only a few posts but can be very interesting.

Indeed. Part of that depends on what you are interested in, of course.


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13 Feb 2023 22:44, you wrote to Drew Klenotic:

I *do* miss the top echo list that showed the weekly message
counts.

From my system, excluding non-English echos:

2023-02-11 .. 2023-02-17

128 STATS
127 COOKING
84 POLITICS
76 SYNCHRONET
60 SYNC_SYSOPS
50 SYNC_PROGRAMMING
25 FIDONET.TELEGRAM
24 BINKD
23 FIDOTEST
21 MYSTIC
19 WINPOINT
18 FIDOGAZETTE
15 FIDONEWS
14 TAGLINES
11 OTHERNETS
9 CHAT
8 NODELIST-POLICE
7 FMAIL_HELP
7 FTSC_PUBLIC
7 MEMORIES
6 ECHO_ADS
6 MUSIC
6 LINUX
6 FIDOSOFT.HUSKY
5 JAMNNTPD
5 GOLDED
4 FN_SYSOP
4 ENET.SYSOP
4 XPOINT
4 AVIATION
4 COFFEE_KLATSCH
4 FUTURE4FIDO
4 AFTERSHOCK
3 ECHOLIST
3 CANACHAT
3 NET_DEV
3 NZ_FIDONET
3 INTERNET
2 MOBILE
2 DBRIDGE
2 POINTS
2 BBS_INTERNET
1 UTF-8
1 AMIGA
1 WIN95
1 BBS_CARNIVAL
1 GENEALOGY
1 ENGLISH_TUTOR
1 MOVIES

Carlos

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Carlos,

128 STATS
127 COOKING

Meaning 2/3 of what passes your system are statistics and cooking-recipes from a database which over the years have been posted at least 5 times.

\%/@rd

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18 Feb 2023 10:16, you wrote to me:

128 STATS
127 COOKING

Meaning 2/3 of what passes your system

That list only includes English-speaking echos.

are statistics and cooking-recipes from a database which over the
years have been posted at least 5 times.

There is some chatter in COOKING, not only recipes...

Carlos

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are statistics and cooking-recipes from a database which over the
years have been posted at least 5 times.

There is some chatter in COOKING, not only recipes...

Correct, and even many of the recipe posts have chatter in them.

Mike


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