• degrees

    From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/360 to All on Wed Feb 12 11:51:12 2020

    Hi, all!

    Do you measure vodka with degrees, like we do in Russia?

    https://ibb.co/rpYkrdw

    How many degrees has your vodka? ;-)

    Bye, all!
    Alexander Koryagin

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Alexander Koryagin on Thu Feb 13 18:14:00 2020
    Do you measure vodka with degrees, like we do in Russia?

    https://ibb.co/rpYkrdw

    How many degrees has your vodka? ;-)

    In the United States, alcoholic beverages are measured in percentage of
    alcohol (for beers and malt liquors), or proof for liquors.

    So, back when there was such a thing as "3-2 beer," that was 3.2% alcohol
    by volume. Meanwhile, to figure proof, you multiply the percentage times
    2. So a whiskey that is 100 proof is 50% alcohol by volume.

    I just check a bottle of vodka distilled and bottled right here in
    Kentucky. It has both percentage (40%) and proof (80) listed on the front
    of the bottle. I did not see anything about degrees. :( I would feel
    like it was more authentic if that was included. :)

    Mike


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Alexander Koryagin on Fri Feb 14 06:06:38 2020
    On 2/12/2020 4:53 AM, between "Alexander Koryagin : All":

    Do you measure vodka with degrees, like we do in Russia?

    https://ibb.co/rpYkrdw

    How many degrees has your vodka? ;-)

    THAT cartoon is very funny!

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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/360 to Mike Powell on Fri Feb 14 08:31:20 2020
    Hi, Mike Powell! ->Alexander Koryagin
    I read your message from 14.02.2020 02:09

    Do you measure vodka with degrees, like we do in Russia?
    https://ibb.co/rpYkrdw
    How many degrees has your vodka? ;-)

    In the United States, alcoholic beverages are measured in
    percentage of alcohol (for beers and malt liquors), or proof for
    liquors.

    So, back when there was such a thing as "3-2 beer," that was 3.2%
    alcohol by volume. Meanwhile, to figure proof, you multiply the
    percentage times 2. So a whiskey that is 100 proof is 50% alcohol
    by volume.

    I heard that American whiskey contains as much alcohol as a producer wants, up to 90%.

    I just check a bottle of vodka distilled and bottled right here in Kentucky. It has both percentage (40%) and proof (80) listed on the
    front of the bottle. I did not see anything about degrees.: ( I
    would feel like it was more authentic if that was included. :)

    I suspect the alcohol degrees in Russia are actually equal to the alcohol percentage. But why we call it "degrees" is a puzzle for me. For instance, the strength of pure alcohol is 90 degrees. Is it 90%? Why 90%, not 100% if it is a pure substance?

    Bye, Mike!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2020

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Alexander Koryagin on Sat Feb 15 09:54:00 2020
    I heard that American whiskey contains as much alcohol as a producer wants, up >to 90%.

    I have heard of at least up to 150 proof (75%), but there could be some
    that is 180 proof.

    I suspect the alcohol degrees in Russia are actually equal to the alcohol >percentage. But why we call it "degrees" is a puzzle for me. For instance, the >strength of pure alcohol is 90 degrees. Is it 90%? Why 90%, not 100% if it is a
    pure substance?

    Maybe, by law, they have to account for the possibility that some
    condensation or other water has gotten into the mix over time?

    Mike


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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Alexander Koryagin on Sat Feb 15 23:15:10 2020
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Mike Powell:

    I heard that American whiskey contains as much alcohol
    as a producer wants, up to 90%.


    Ah... I think I get the picture (pun alert!) now. The cartoon shows a scale of ninety degrees similar to what one might see on a protractor, but in reverse order. Around these parts one might often see a scale near the exit of a commercial establishment which helps the staff report accurately how tall the thief is who's just made a hasty retreat. I reckon this man's wife has devised a scale for measuring the angle at which he stands when he is inebriated. :-))



    I suspect the alcohol degrees in Russia are actually equal
    to the alcohol percentage. But why we call it "degrees" is
    a puzzle for me.


    I see the percentage of alcohol by volume listed on various items... including examples from Canada, Australia, the US, and the UK. If others refer to the same idea in "degrees" it's a mystery to me as well. But the cartoon is more amusing AFAIC now that I know "degrees" are widely used in Russia.... :-)



    For instance, the strength of pure alcohol is 90 degrees.
    Is it 90%? Why 90%, not 100% if it is a pure substance?


    We have a bottle of isopropyl alcohol listed as 99% USP. It is used for de-icing frozen car door locks & dissolving glue from sticky labels we want to remove from book covers, e.g., without damaging them. Medical professionals often use it as an antiseptic. However, it's clearly labelled "POISON" & there may be different rules WRT the variety human beings tend to drink... [chuckle].




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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Ardith Hinton on Sun Feb 16 20:25:48 2020
    On 15/02/2020 4:15 p.m., Ardith Hinton : Alexander Koryagin wrote:

    We have a bottle of isopropyl alcohol listed as 99% USP. It is
    used for de-icing frozen car door locks & dissolving glue from
    sticky labels we want to remove from book covers, e.g., without
    damaging them.

    A little rag soaked in vodka helps remove the annoying icing-up that
    occurs on the inside of a car windshield.

    But I use lighter fluid to remove the oil-based sticky labels from
    books. Dries up very nice, and no stains.


    Medical professionals often use it as an
    antiseptic. However, it's clearly labelled "POISON" & there may
    be different rules WRT the variety human beings tend to drink...
    [chuckle].

    I don't even think we can even get any 99% iso alcohol here! (Canada).
    The highest I've seen is 70%. I'll have to try it for removing labels!

    I have a very wimpy-strength 2% solution in the cupboard. Very handy
    when I need to disinfect a sore or cut.


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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/360 to Ardith Hinton on Sun Feb 16 20:43:18 2020
    Hi, Ardith Hinton! ->Alexander Koryagin
    I read your message from 16.02.2020 00:15

    I heard that American whiskey contains as much alcohol as a
    producer wants, up to 90%.

    Ah... I think I get the picture (pun alert!) now. The cartoon shows
    a scale of ninety degrees similar to what one might see on a

    I probably should have sent the direct link to the picture. https://i.ibb.co/7pPvmk1/degrees.jpg

    For instance, the strength of pure alcohol is 90 degrees. Is it 90
    %? Why 90%, not 100% if it is a pure substance?

    We have a bottle of isopropyl alcohol listed as 99% USP. It is used
    for de-icing frozen car door locks & dissolving glue from sticky
    labels we want to remove from book covers, e.g., without damaging
    them. Medical professionals often use it as an antiseptic. However,
    it's clearly labelled "POISON" & there may be different rules WRT
    the variety human beings tend to drink... [chuckle].

    Of course it is poison, people drink ethyl alcohol.

    Bye, Ardith!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2020

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Alexander Koryagin on Tue Feb 18 23:12:28 2020
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    I probably should have sent the direct link to the picture.
    https://i.ibb.co/7pPvmk1/degrees.jpg


    Not to worry. I just needed more background information in order to be sure you were serious about measuring alcohol content in degrees. Although there's usually a grain of truth in cartoons it may not be easy to distinguish between fact & fantasy without some prior knowledge of the topic.... :-)



    Of course it is poison, people drink ethyl alcohol.


    Bingo! I hoped everyone would understand from my description. :-))




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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/360 to Ardith Hinton on Wed Feb 19 13:58:50 2020
    Hi, Ardith Hinton! ->Alexander Koryagin
    I read your message from 19.02.2020 00:12

    I probably should have sent the direct link to the picture.
    https://i.ibb.co/7pPvmk1/degrees.jpg

    Not to worry. I just needed more background information in order to
    be sure you were serious about measuring alcohol content in
    degrees. Although there's usually a grain of truth in cartoons it
    may not be easy to distinguish between fact & fantasy without some
    prior knowledge of the topic.... :-)

    Another my theory is that in Russia we use so called "alcohol meter". It looks like a usual glass thermometer, but in reality it floats vertically, like a fishing float and has a scale on its side. If you put it into a glass of alcohol it will show you its purity. ;) That scale maybe is in degrees, although I am not sure.

    Bye, Ardith!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2020

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Alexander Koryagin on Wed Feb 19 13:43:54 2020
    Hi Alexander -- on Feb 19 2020 at 14:00, you wrote:

    Another my theory is that in Russia we use so called "alcohol

    Another of my theories

    meter". It looks like a usual glass thermometer, but in reality it
    floats vertically, like a fishing float and has a scale on its side.
    If you put it into a glass of alcohol it will show you its purity.
    ;) That scale maybe is in degrees, although I am not sure.

    We have those for wine making, called a wine hydrometer - it measures
    specific gravity, potential alcohol, and has a Brix scale, among other
    options.

    https://eckraus.com/hydrometer-scales-and-what-they-mean/


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Dallas Hinton on Wed Feb 19 23:06:08 2020
    Hi, Dallas! Recently you wrote in a message to Alexander Koryagin:

    It looks like a usual glass thermometer, but in reality
    it floats vertically, like a fishing float and has a scale
    on its side. If you put it into a glass of alcohol it will
    show you its purity. ;-) That scale maybe is in degrees,
    although I am not sure.

    We have those for wine making, called a wine hydrometer -
    it measures specific gravity, potential alcohol, and has a
    Brix scale, among other options.


    Ah. I looked up "Brix scale" because I didn't remember the term, and confirmed that it's used in making wine & measures in degrees as does the Plato scale generally used in the brewing industry. Either way it's a measurement of sugar content by mass, however. I saw no mention of distilled alcohol.... :-)




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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/360 to Ardith Hinton on Fri Feb 21 08:43:38 2020
    Hi, Ardith Hinton! ->Dallas Hinton
    I read your message from 20.02.2020 00:06

    It looks like a usual glass thermometer, but in reality it floats
    vertically, like a fishing float and has a scale on its side. If
    you put it into a glass of alcohol it will show you its
    purity. ;-) That scale maybe is in degrees, although I am not
    sure.

    We have those for wine making, called a wine hydrometer - it
    measures specific gravity, potential alcohol, and has a Brix
    scale, among other options.

    Ah. I looked up "Brix scale" because I didn't remember the term,
    and confirmed that it's used in making wine & measures in degrees
    as does the Plato scale generally used in the brewing industry.
    Either way it's a measurement of sugar content by mass, however. I
    saw no mention of distilled alcohol.... :-)

    Probably there can be local differences. ;)

    Bye, Ardith!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2020

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to August Abolins on Mon Feb 24 23:20:08 2020
    Hi, August! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    We have a bottle of isopropyl alcohol listed as 99% USP.
    It is used for de-icing frozen car door locks & dissolving
    glue from sticky labels we want to remove from book covers,
    e.g., without damaging them.

    A little rag soaked in vodka helps remove the annoying
    icing-up that occurs on the inside of a car windshield.


    Hmm. Vodka has a higher price tag... but doesn't come with warnings about ensuring the space is well-ventilated. This could be quite an advantage if you are using it on the interior of a motor vehicle in winter... [chuckle].

    I was beginning to wonder if the thread might be a little off topic, BTW... until I found in the course of my research that people from Eurasia may not understand the vodka available to us has no added honey &/or spices. :-))



    But I use lighter fluid to remove the oil-based sticky
    labels from books. Dries up very nice, and no stains.


    Haven't tried that... I wonder if it might work more quickly. I use other solvents which require less time & patience, but I don't risk using them on book covers or on anything which is obviously made of plastic.... :-)



    I don't even think we can even get any 99% iso alcohol
    here! (Canada). The highest I've seen is 70%.


    We used much the same thing until about three years ago, when we ran out during a long spell of particularly cold weather. It does the job when we need to de-ice a frozen car lock... but we tend to use more of it.

    The bottle we now have was manufactured in Winnipeg & purchased from our local pharmacy... not from a chain which sells groceries & housewares too. IMHO we get better results from people who specialize in such matters.... :-Q



    I have a very wimpy-strength 2% solution in the cupboard.
    Very handy when I need to disinfect a sore or cut.


    We tend to use Polysporin ointment or cream in such cases because we find iso alcohol can be very painful on open wounds. Maybe it isn't if you're using a 2% solution, but I don't recall having seen such a thing here.... :-)




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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Alexander Koryagin on Wed Feb 26 23:42:44 2020
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    I looked up "Brix scale" because I didn't remember the
    term, and confirmed that it's used in making wine &
    measures in degrees as does the Plato scale generally
    used in the brewing industry. Either way it's a
    measurement of sugar content by mass, however. I saw
    no mention of distilled alcohol.... :-)

    Probably there can be local differences. ;)


    Uh-huh. I don't disbelieve you, but my search engines know where I live... and may reflect other people's assumptions WRT what I'd like to know. Eventually I found in Wikipedia, under "Alcohol by volume":

    In some countries, e.g. France, alcohol by volume
    is often referred to as degrees Gay-Lussac (after
    the French chemist Joseph Louis Gay-Lussac)
    although there is a slight difference....


    The difference apparently has to do with what's considered to be a normal room temperature in which part(s) of the world. Another complication, AFAIC, is that when we import stuff from other countries the labelling has to meet North American standards... or so I understand. What this means is that the labels Canadians see on French wine & Russian vodka may not be helpful if they're trying to understand what folks in SomePlace Else are seeing.... :-Q




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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Alexander Koryagin on Wed Mar 18 19:09:12 2020
    On 12/02/2020 4:53 a.m., Alexander Koryagin : All wrote:

    Do you measure vodka with degrees, like we do in Russia?

    https://ibb.co/rpYkrdw

    How many degrees has your vodka? ;-)


    Here's a "viral" version of the stuff:

    https://virusvodka.com/



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