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TITLe: RAR Archiver Support Conference International

DESCription: An International conference to provide support and technical
assistance for users and prospective users of the RAR archiver. Topics may
include: Questions and answers on how to use the various features of RAR,
Bug reports, Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN Coordinator.
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MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: janis{at}filegate.net

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TITLe: RAR Archiver Support Conference International

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and technical
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include: Questions and answers on how to use the various features of RAR,
Bug reports, Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN Coordinator.
English is to used in the echo.

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MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: janis{at}filegate.net

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Email: janis{at}filegate.net

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how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
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how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN
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Topics may include: Questions and answers on how to use the various
features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related programs.
Announcements for RAR will be made by the RAR-FDN Coordinator.

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Topics may include: Questions and answers on how to use the various
features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related programs.
Announcements for RAR will be made by the RAR-FDN Coordinator.

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Hello Janis,

05 Mar 22 16:13, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

Why exactly did you do this?

Because you left, Janis, and you left one hell of a mess to clean up.

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

He's trying to clean up the mess you left behind. Instead of bitching at him, try helping out for once. I mean, really: you up and disappear leaving a lot of us in Fidonet in a lurch. Vince stepped in and picked up where you left off. You gave no notice of your disconnection and told only a few people you were coming back (including me) but with no timetable.

So you show back up unannounced and bitch at the people where you left everyone hanging? That's mighty presumptious and arrogant of you but hey, you have a reputation to uphold, right? The great Janis Kracht: in charge of everything...until she isn't.

What the hell is it with the old guard leaving Fidonet, coming back, leaving again and then throwing a temper tantrum when they come back?

You're embarrassing yourself. Stop it.

-- Sean

... It is better to wear out than to rust out.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
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//Hello Sean,//

on *06.03.22* at *0:26:29* You wrote in area *ELIST*
to *Janis Kracht* about *"RAR Echolist Update"*.

AREA:ELIST
@REPLY: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7
@MSGID: 1:18/200@fidonet 62240113
@CHRS: UTF-8 2
@TZUTC: -0500
@TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.8 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
Hello Janis,

05 Mar 22 16:13, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

Why exactly did you do this?

Because you left, Janis, and you left one hell of a mess to clean up.

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet... Geez.

He's trying to clean up the mess you left behind.

[snip]

PATH: 18/200 229/426 153/7715 3634/12 250/1 8

I can't see Janis' original message that this reply is for.
What gives?

Regards,
Louis Northmore
--- WinPoint 389.0
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Okay lets slow down we dont have to do this, Janis Glad your back.
Shawn kindness go's along way. Lets all get along. Geez!
Sam


Bye for now...
Sam

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Hello Sean!

Saturday March 05 2022 19:26, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

I have not seen any post from Janis here other than the one's generated from elist and that was me taking over the RAR area from her.



Vince

Hello Janis,

05 Mar 22 16:13, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

Why exactly did you do this?

Because you left, Janis, and you left one hell of a mess to clean up.

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

He's trying to clean up the mess you left behind. Instead of bitching
at him, try helping out for once. I mean, really: you up and
disappear leaving a lot of us in Fidonet in a lurch. Vince stepped in
and picked up where you left off. You gave no notice of your
disconnection and told only a few people you were coming back
(including me) but with no timetable.

So you show back up unannounced and bitch at the people where you left
everyone hanging? That's mighty presumptious and arrogant of you but
hey, you have a reputation to uphold, right? The great Janis Kracht:
in charge of everything...until she isn't.

What the hell is it with the old guard leaving Fidonet, coming back,
leaving again and then throwing a temper tantrum when they come back?

You're embarrassing yourself. Stop it.

-- Sean

... It is better to wear out than to rust out.

Vincent

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Hello Vincent Coen!

** On Monday 07.03.22 - 16:35, Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis:

Hello Sean!

Saturday March 05 2022 19:26, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

I have not seen any post from Janis here other than the one's generated from elist and that was me taking over the RAR area from her.

Look for MSGID: 2:250/1@fidonet 47625d4a


--
../|ug

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Hello August!

Monday March 07 2022 12:50, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent Coen!

** On Monday 07.03.22 - 16:35, Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis:

Hello Sean!

Saturday March 05 2022 19:26, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

I have not seen any post from Janis here other than the one's
generated from elist and that was me taking over the RAR area
from her.

Look for MSGID: 2:250/1@fidonet 47625d4a

No messages from 31 Dec 2021.


Vincent

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Hello Vincent Coen!

** On Monday 07.03.22 - 21:50, Vincent Coen wrote to August Abolins:

Look for MSGID: 2:250/1@fidonet 47625d4a

No messages from 31 Dec 2021.

My bad. This was Janis' post about the vultures:

MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7

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Louis Northmore wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I can't see Janis' original message that this reply is for.
What gives?

I'd talk to your boss node and check to see if the message is in his system. If not, keep working your way up the SEEN-BY chain until you find a system
that does have the original message. I do know you have been having an odd issue with your feed (I've read it over in Vince's admin echo for his region that I'm connected to since he and I have a direct connection for file
echoes).

I hope this might give you a place to start to figure out what's going on.

-- Sean

... WinErr 019: User error: not our fault. Is not! Is not!
--- MultiMail/Linux
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Sam Penwright wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Okay lets slow down we dont have to do this, Janis Glad your back.
Shawn kindness go's along way. Lets all get along. Geez!

I understand what you're trying to accomplish, Sam, but there is more to
this than you realize and trying to intervene in this won't do anything but irritate people. So I'm asking you ncely to leave it alone.

My name is spelled "Sean" by the way.

-- Sean

... I ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon. I'll let you know.
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Vincent Coen wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I have not seen any post from Janis here other than the one's generated from elist and that was me taking over the RAR area from her.

I think you have a feed problem somewhere, Vince.

Here's the full message including kludges:

===Cut===
= ELIST (1:18/200) ============================================================
Msg : 130 of 147
From : Janis Kracht 1:261/38 05 Mar 22 16:13:18
To : Vincent Coen
Subj : RAR Echolist Update =============================================================================== +MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7
+REPLY: 2:250/1@fidonet 47625d4a
+TZUTC: -0500
+CHARSET: LATIN-1

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TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and technical assistance
for
users and prospective users of the RAR archiver.
Topics may include: Questions and answers on how to use the various
features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by the RAR-FDN Coordinator.

RULEs: {Not Found}

MODerator: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 BACKBONE

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Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet... Geez.

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+ Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

@PATH: 261/38 218/700 229/426 18/200
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On 2022 Mar 07 18:12:00, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

No messages from 31 Dec 2021.

My bad. This was Janis' post about the vultures:

MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7

in this echo? i've not seen any posts from janis, either... i do have one netmail from her i need to respond to but no echomail messages in any echos since she left the network... kinda makes me suspect that some system is blocking echomail from systems not listed in the nodelist before the message gets to a distribution branching point al la fidoweb...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
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On 2022 Mar 07 20:25:50, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

I have not seen any post from Janis here other than the one's
generated from elist and that was me taking over the RAR area from
her.

I think you have a feed problem somewhere, Vince.

i'm not so sure... vince's system is one of the top tier star hubs... he was brought in, along with xxcarol and terry roati, when janis left the network... my system has not seen any of janis' recent post(s) in any echos...

Here's the full message including kludges:

===Cut===
= ELIST (1:18/200) ============================================================
Msg : 130 of 147
From : Janis Kracht 1:261/38 05 Mar 22 16:13:18 To : Vincent Coen Subj : RAR Echolist Update ===========================================================================
+MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7
+REPLY: 2:250/1@fidonet 47625d4a
+TZUTC: -0500
+CHARSET: LATIN-1

[... trim ...]

@PATH: 261/38 218/700 229/426 18/200
===Cut===

261/38 is janis' system
218/700 is kurt weiske
229/426 is nick andre (aka z1c)
18/200 is, of course, you

i don't see any seenbys in your quote of janis' post, either...

the following systems are connected to this area here at sestar...

1:153/7715 dallas hinton (star hub)
1:275/1000 xxcarol (star hub)
2:250/1 vince (star hub)
3:640/1321 terry roati (star hub)

1:116/116 danny walters
1:123/25 kurt hamm
1:123/35 david farr
1:123/115 dan clough
1:123/170 raleigh apple
1:123/180 dave smith
1:123/200 allie prather
1:123/755 james digriz
1:135/300 eric renfro
1:261/1466 dale shipp
1:3634/12.73 my point
1:3634/15 bill burton
1:3634/24 richard miles
1:3634/27 david westphalen
1:3634/119 edward rempala
1:299/6 dean lodge
1:300/4 john porterfield
2:222/2 kim heino
2:240/1120 ulrich schroeter
2:5020/1042 michael dukelsky

i know that more than one of the above systems is multi-linked to this and other areas because of the dupes my tosser records as it processes the mail... my tosser does not place dupes in my local message bases but it does pass them on to linked systems not already listed in the seenbys...

my tosser has not seen any echomail messages with janis in the from field at all in the month of march... not even any seen as dupes based on the MSGID...


)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
... Life's like a bath: the longer you stay in, the wrinklier you get.
---
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Hello Sean!

07 Mar 22 18:42, you wrote to me:

I can't see Janis' original message that this reply is for.
What gives?

I'd talk to your boss node and check to see if the message is in his system. If not, keep working your way up the SEEN-BY chain until you
find a system that does have the original message. I do know you have been having an odd issue with your feed (I've read it over in Vince's admin echo for his region that I'm connected to since he and I have a direct connection for file echoes).

I hope this might give you a place to start to figure out what's going
on.

Thanks Sean. Quite disconcerting that messages can just go missing or perhaps not turn up at all :)

If only we had some kind of system that could verify and check that our feeds are intact somehow. *ponders*

Louis


... Some people are hard to forget - but well worth the effort
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20170303
* Origin: Sonic BBS :: North Yorkshire, England (2:250/8)

Hi mark,

On 2022-03-08 06:04:54, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

I have not seen any post from Janis here other than the one's
generated from elist and that was me taking over the RAR area from
her.

I think you have a feed problem somewhere, Vince.

i'm not so sure... vince's system is one of the top tier star hubs... he was brought in, along with xxcarol and terry roati, when janis left the network... my system has not seen any of janis' recent post(s) in any echos...

Here's the full message including kludges:

===Cut===
= ELIST (1:18/200)
============================================================
Msg : 130 of 147
From : Janis Kracht 1:261/38 05 Mar 22
16:13:18 To : Vincent Coen Subj : RAR Echolist Update
======================================================================
===== +MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7 +REPLY: 2:250/1@fidonet 47625d4a
+TZUTC: -0500 +CHARSET: LATIN-1

[... trim ...]

@PATH: 261/38 218/700 229/426 18/200
===Cut===

261/38 is janis' system
218/700 is kurt weiske
229/426 is nick andre (aka z1c)
18/200 is, of course, you

i don't see any seenbys in your quote of janis' post, either...

the following systems are connected to this area here at sestar...

1:153/7715 dallas hinton (star hub)
1:275/1000 xxcarol (star hub)
2:250/1 vince (star hub)
3:640/1321 terry roati (star hub)

1:116/116 danny walters
1:123/25 kurt hamm
1:123/35 david farr
1:123/115 dan clough
1:123/170 raleigh apple
1:123/180 dave smith
1:123/200 allie prather
1:123/755 james digriz
1:135/300 eric renfro
1:261/1466 dale shipp
1:3634/12.73 my point
1:3634/15 bill burton
1:3634/24 richard miles
1:3634/27 david westphalen
1:3634/119 edward rempala
1:299/6 dean lodge
1:300/4 john porterfield
2:222/2 kim heino
2:240/1120 ulrich schroeter
2:5020/1042 michael dukelsky

i know that more than one of the above systems is multi-linked to this and other areas because of the dupes my tosser records as it processes the mail... my tosser does not place dupes in my local message bases but it does pass them on to linked systems not already listed in the seenbys...

my tosser has not seen any echomail messages with janis in the from field at all in the month of march... not even any seen as dupes based on the MSGID...

These are the seen+by's and p@th of Janis mail as it arrived here 3 times:

SEEN+BY: 10/0 1 15/0 19/36 102/401 103/1 705 106/201 116/18 128/2 153/250 7715 SEEN+BY: 214/22 218/0 1 109 650 700 720 802 840 850 860 870 880 220/70 221/6 SEEN+BY: 222/2 226/17 229/426 230/150 152 240/1120 250/1 261/38 100 1466 SEEN+BY: 267/155 800 280/464 282/1056 291/100 111 301/1 1 310/31 320/119 219 SEEN+BY: 340/400 341/66 396/45 633/280 640/1321 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 SEEN+BY: 772/210 220 230 801/161 189 2320/105 3634/12 5020/1042
P@TH: 261/38 218/700 840 770/1

SEEN+BY: 10/0 1 15/0 19/36 102/401 103/1 705 106/201 116/18 128/2 153/757 7715 SEEN+BY: 203/0 214/22 218/0 1 109 650 700 720 802 840 850 860 870 880 221/1 6 SEEN+BY: 221/360 222/2 229/426 230/150 152 240/1120 250/1 261/38 100 1466 SEEN+BY: 267/155 280/464 5003 282/1056 291/100 111 292/854 301/1 1 320/119 219 SEEN+BY: 335/364 340/400 341/66 396/45 423/81 640/1321 712/848 770/1 801/161 SEEN+BY: 801/189 2320/105 3634/12 4500/1 5020/1042
P@TH: 261/38 218/700 840 221/6 1

SEEN+BY: 10/0 1 15/0 19/36 102/127 401 103/1 705 106/201 116/18 128/2 134/100 SEEN+BY: 153/105 135 757 7715 214/22 218/0 1 109 650 700 720 802 840 850 860 SEEN+BY: 218/870 880 221/6 222/2 229/426 230/150 152 240/1120 250/1 261/38 100 SEEN+BY: 261/1466 267/155 280/464 282/1056 291/100 111 301/1 320/119 219 SEEN+BY: 340/400 341/66 396/45 640/1321 712/848 770/1 801/161 189 2320/105 SEEN+BY: 3634/12 5020/1042
P@TH: 261/38 218/700 840 221/6 153/757

Your system is in there...

Maybe your still in Janis's config and her system added the seen+by for your system, and it is waiting in her outbound to be picked up by your system?


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Sam Penwright wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I understand what you're trying to accomplish, Sam, but there is more to this than you realize and trying to intervene in this won't do anything but
irritate people. So I'm asking you ncely to leave it alone.

Alone it is!

My name is spelled "Sean" by the way.

My mistake Sean! my bad!


Bye for now...
Sam

--- Ezycom V3.00 01FB064B
* Origin: Deep Space Gateway BBS Running EZYCOM V3.0 (1:123/120)

On 2022 Mar 08 14:07:56, you wrote to me:

[... chomp ...]

my tosser has not seen any echomail messages with janis in the from
field at all in the month of march... not even any seen as dupes based
on the MSGID...

These are the seen+by's and p@th of Janis mail as it arrived here 3 times:

[... chomp ...]

Your system is in there...

i see that :/

the question is which of those systems in the paths you show put my system in the seenbys...

Maybe your still in Janis's config and her system added the seen+by
for your system, and it is waiting in her outbound to be picked up by
your system?

that's possible, i guess...
[time passes]
nope... i just polled 1:261/38 and there was no traffic transferred in either direction... she might still have my system listed somewhere in her config... i guess that might be a possibility...

good guess, though...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
... Pharmaceutical companies make even more money if people get the flu.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Hi mark,

On 2022-03-08 12:36:40, you wrote to me:

Your system is in there...

i see that :/

the question is which of those systems in the paths you show put my system in the seenbys...

Indeed.

Maybe your still in Janis's config and her system added the seen+by
for your system, and it is waiting in her outbound to be picked up by
your system?

that's possible, i guess...
[time passes]
nope... i just polled 1:261/38 and there was no traffic transferred in either direction... she might still have my system listed somewhere in her config... i guess that might be a possibility...

good guess, though...

If you want to get to the bottom of it, you could start by directly checking with Janis. Or if she is unresponsive, you could check with Kurt, maybe he has backups of incoming pkt files?

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

My bad. This was Janis' post about the vultures:

MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7

in this echo?

Yes, I'll reply to her message in a minute with paths.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and technical assistance
for
users and prospective users of the RAR archiver.
Topics may include: Questions and answers on how to use the various
features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related programs.
Announcements for RAR will be made by the RAR-FDN Coordinator.

RULEs: {Not Found}

MODerator: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

Updated on: 2022/02/02 and valid till 2022/08/31

Produced by Elist v5.2.034

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet... Geez.

It's good to see you back Janis.

@SEEN-BY: 10/0 1 15/0 19/36 102/401 103/1 705 106/201 116/18 128/2 153/757 7715 @SEEN-BY: 214/22 218/0 1 109 650 700 720 802 840 850 860 870 880 221/6 222/2 @SEEN-BY: 229/426 230/150 152 240/1120 250/1 261/38 100 1466 267/155 282/1056 @SEEN-BY: 291/100 111 301/1 320/119 219 340/400 341/66 396/45 640/1321 712/848 @SEEN-BY: 770/1 801/161 189 2320/105 3634/12 5020/1042
@PATH: 261/38 218/700 840 221/6 153/757
@MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7
@REPLY: 2:250/1@fidonet 47625d4a
@TZUTC: -0500
@CHARSET: LATIN-1

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

Hello Janis!

Tuesday March 08 2022 14:05, Alan Ianson wrote to you:

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and technical
assistance for users and prospective users of the RAR archiver.
Topics may include: Questions and answers on how to use the various
features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related programs.
Announcements for RAR will be made by the RAR-FDN Coordinator.

RULEs: {Not Found}

MODerator: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

Updated on: 2022/02/02 and valid till 2022/08/31

Produced by Elist v5.2.034

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

It's good to see you back Janis.

@SEEN-BY: 10/0 1 15/0 19/36 102/401 103/1 705 106/201 116/18 128/2
153/757 7715 @SEEN-BY: 214/22 218/0 1 109 650 700 720 802 840 850 860
870 880 221/6 222/2 @SEEN-BY: 229/426 230/150 152 240/1120 250/1
261/38 100 1466 267/155 282/1056 @SEEN-BY: 291/100 111 301/1 320/119
219 340/400 341/66 396/45 640/1321 712/848 @SEEN-BY: 770/1 801/161 189 2320/105 3634/12 5020/1042 @PATH: 261/38 218/700 840 221/6
153/757 @MSGID: 1:261/38.0 f49993b7 @REPLY: 2:250/1@fidonet
47625d4a @TZUTC: -0500 @CHARSET: LATIN-1

No, I did not get it.

Janis, if you wish to take back any of these echo's just let me know.

Sorry I thought you had basically shut down.

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:250/1)

Hello mark,

08 Mar 22 12:36, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

nope... i just polled 1:261/38 and there was no traffic transferred in either direction... she might still have my system listed somewhere in
her config... i guess that might be a possibility...

Janis contacted me tonight wanting to reconnect to my system (we had one for my Fidonet file echoes). I'll let her know about the issue in my reply.

-- Sean

... Confession is good for the soul but bad for your career.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and technical assistance
for
users and prospective users of the RAR archiver.
Topics may include: Questions and answers on how to use the various
features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by the RAR-FDN Coordinator.

RULEs: {Not Found}

MODerator: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

Updated on: 2022/02/02 and valid till 2022/08/31

Produced by Elist v5.2.034

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet... Geez.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

On 03-08-22 14:07, Wilfred Van Velzen <=-
spoke to Mark Lewis about Re: RAR Echolist Update <=-

SEEN+BY: 10/0 1 15/0 19/36 102/127 401 103/1 705 106/201 116/18 128/2 134/100 SEEN+BY: 153/105 135 757 7715 214/22 218/0 1 109 650 700 720
802 840 850 860 SEEN+BY: 218/870 880 221/6 222/2 229/426 230/150 152 240/1120 250/1 261/38 100 SEEN+BY: 261/1466 267/155 280/464 282/1056 291/100 111 301/1 320/119 219 SEEN+BY: 340/400 341/66 396/45 640/1321 712/848 770/1 801/161 189 2320/105 SEEN+BY: 3634/12 5020/1042
P@TH: 261/38 218/700 840 221/6 153/757

Your system is in there...

Maybe your still in Janis's config and her system added the
seen+by for your system, and it is waiting in her outbound
to be picked up by your system?

My system is also in that SEEN+BY, but I have gotten nothing from her,
nor does her system respond to a poll at this moment.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)



... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 01:04:53, 09 Mar 2022
___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30

--- Maximus/NT 3.01
* Origin: Owl's Anchor (1:261/1466)

Janis Kracht wrote to Vincent Coen <=-

MODerator: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

Updated on: 2022/02/02 and valid till 2022/08/31

Produced by Elist v5.2.034

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

Ummmmmmmmm, could it be because you up and left in a hissy fit, with no warning and no explanation?

And now you're back, with no explanation as to what went on?

Could *THAT* be the reason that others "took over" stuff you were doing,
but abandoned? Ya think?



... Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)

Hello Janis!

Saturday March 05 2022 16:13, you wrote to me:

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

...

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

Taken over then you left in a hurry with very little notice and I have not had any msg regarding of your current status.

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:250/1)

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

...

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

Taken over then you left in a hurry with very little notice and I have not had
any msg regarding of your current status.

Eh.. Vince, _you_ passworded me out with your mailer, and I could not connect to your mailer to send you any mail regarding what was going on. Until _Dallas_ contacted you about this, that situation remained.

Regardless, Vince, the reason I was a _bit_ upset with the above was since when does a person _have to be in Fidonet_ to moderate a message echo? It has never been the case. _I_ was the elisted Moderator of the RAR echo whether I was in Fidonet or not. _YOU_ removed me as moderator, and just ripped up my passworded elist entry with no warning whatsoever.

The RAR echo was a nice quiet echo where I enjoyed helping out folks that had problems with RAR.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

Janis Kracht wrote to Vincent Coen <=-

MODerator: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

Updated on: 2022/02/02 and valid till 2022/08/31

Produced by Elist v5.2.034

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

Ummmmmmmmm, could it be because you up and left in a hissy fit, with no warning and no explanation?

Sorry, you are wrong there - it was NOT a 'hissy fit' "with no warning and no explanation". I contacted as many people as I could to let them know I _had_
to leave because of finances. Then, as it turned out I _didn't_ need to leave so I'm back - aren't you happy...

Ron's job is fine, our $$ is fine and I'm happy to not be involved in as many things as I was (like you care Lol).

Sean was gracious enough to take over the FidoGazette, so everything is cool as far as I'm concerned.

And now you're back, with no explanation as to what went on?
Could *THAT* be the reason that others "took over" stuff you were doing,
but abandoned? Ya think?

I never abandoned the RAR echo, I was the current elisted moderator until Vince decided _he_ wanted to take it over. As you should know, there is no requirement to be "in" Fidonet to be a moderator.

Authors are still sending me files they would like distributed, so when they do so, I will continue to get them in the various file echos like the PDN and Util*net areas.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

Hello Janis,

09 Mar 22 20:39, you wrote to Dan Clough:

Sean was gracious enough to take over the FidoGazette, so everything
is cool as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, it wasn't that easy. I was accused of stealing the FidoGazette from you and other nasty things. No one believed me that you gave me back the FidoGazette. It was as if I was a ne'er-do-well trying to steal the last piece of cake or something.

That's all changed, thankfully. You're always welcome to drop something off to be published, of course.

-- Sean

... A failure will not appear till a unit has passed final inspection.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)

Janis Kracht wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

Ummmmmmmmm, could it be because you up and left in a hissy fit, with no warning and no explanation?

Sorry, you are wrong there - it was NOT a 'hissy fit' "with no
warning and no explanation". I contacted as many people as I
could to let them know I _had_ to leave because of finances.
Then, as it turned out I _didn't_ need to leave so I'm back -
aren't you happy...

The was basically no warning, and you know it. Finances? How much does
it cost to maintain a Fido presence...? Very close to zero, in my
estimation.

Ron's job is fine, our $$ is fine and I'm happy to not be
involved in as many things as I was (like you care Lol).

Well that's good.

Sean was gracious enough to take over the FidoGazette, so
everything is cool as far as I'm concerned.

"s/over/back"

And now you're back, with no explanation as to what went on?
Could *THAT* be the reason that others "took over" stuff you were doing,
but abandoned? Ya think?

I never abandoned the RAR echo, I was the current elisted
moderator until Vince decided _he_ wanted to take it over. As
you should know, there is no requirement to be "in" Fidonet to be
a moderator.

It was publicly announced (either by you or those you notified), that
you were leaving Fidonet *permanently*. Why *wouldn't* you be replaced
as a moderator, and any other Fido function, in that case? It's just
common sense.

Authors are still sending me files they would like distributed,
so when they do so, I will continue to get them in the various
file echos like the PDN and Util*net areas.

Uh-huh. OK.



... Pros are those who do their jobs well, even when they don't feel like it. === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)

Hello Janis!

** On Wednesday 09.03.22 - 20:39, you wrote to Dan Clough:

Sorry, you are wrong there - it was NOT a 'hissy fit'
"with no warning and no explanation". I contacted as
many people as I could to let them know I _had_ to leave
because of finances. Then, as it turned out I _didn't_
need to leave so I'm back - aren't you happy...

Doesn't matter. Your message of the following:

To: /FIDO2/FIDOGAZETTE (All)
From: Janis Kracht @ 1:261/38 (<<PRISM BBS, Slaterville Springs NY)
Subject: Bad news
Software: BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
Path: 1:396/45!261/38 396/45
Date: We 29.12.21, 13:19 (received: 29.12.21, 18:23)
MID: 1:261/38.0 9636d946

..specifically said "taking down all of the servers..
permanently" What part of that is supposed to indicate that
you would be coming back, maintain your links, or maintain your
passwords, or anything.

I never abandoned the RAR echo, I was the current elisted
moderator until Vince decided _he_ wanted to take it over.
As you should know, there is no requirement to be "in"
Fidonet to be a moderator.

Wrt to moderatorship of an echo, perhaps that CAN be maintained
with other access points, but a message of "down.. permanently"
gives a different impression to many.

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: (2:221/1.58)

** On Wednesday 09.03.22 - 20:39, you wrote to Dan Clough:

Sorry, you are wrong there - it was NOT a 'hissy fit'
"with no warning and no explanation". I contacted as
many people as I could to let them know I _had_ to leave
because of finances. Then, as it turned out I _didn't_
need to leave so I'm back - aren't you happy...

Doesn't matter. Your message of the following:

To: /FIDO2/FIDOGAZETTE (All)
From: Janis Kracht @ 1:261/38 (<<PRISM BBS, Slaterville Springs NY) Subject: Bad news
Software: BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
Path: 1:396/45!261/38 396/45
Date: We 29.12.21, 13:19 (received: 29.12.21, 18:23)
MID: 1:261/38.0 9636d946

..specifically said "taking down all of the servers..
permanently" What part of that is supposed to indicate that
you would be coming back, maintain your links, or maintain your
passwords, or anything.

I never abandoned the RAR echo, I was the current elisted
moderator until Vince decided _he_ wanted to take it over.
As you should know, there is no requirement to be "in"
Fidonet to be a moderator.

Wrt to moderatorship of an echo, perhaps that CAN be maintained
with other access points, but a message of "down.. permanently"
gives a different impression to many.

Understand and sorry to all about this...

Yes, you and all the rest are right. Don't worry, I'll be posting an apology to Dan Clough as well.

Take care,
Janis

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

I'm sorry Dan, you are right, I was wrong to go on about things in here.

Take care,
Janis

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
* Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

Hello Janis!

Saturday March 05 2022 16:13, you wrote to me:

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and technical
assistance for users and prospective users of the RAR archiver.
Topics may include: Questions and answers on how to use the various
features of RAR, Bug reports, Information on where to obtain copies
of RAR and related programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by
the RAR-FDN Coordinator.

RULEs: {Not Found}

MODerator: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4 BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Vince Coen, 2:250/1

Updated on: 2022/02/02 and valid till 2022/08/31

Produced by Elist v5.2.034

-=:{ End of Report }:=-

Eh... Really Vince??

Why exactly did you do this?

I swear to god it's like the vultures are f'n loose in fidonet...
Geez.

From what you told me and others, your were shutting down and some echo's needed renewing.I have NOT changed any passwords just put my name on then to keep all running at least until some elist software changes are made that allows all abandoned or areas not on the list to be created as under the non control of elistmaint. As the software is still in a state of development that
has not taken place but hopefully within 4 weeks..

When you announced your closure we had to do some fast running around that involved some long nights to get things organised without file or echo loss. That involved me making changes to my system which also during that time I removed your system for obvious reasons - you had left the building - Fido...

So you have decided to restart - would have been nice to let us all know instead of your bolsie mail.

I really have better things to do than be forced to take over echo areas to keep them in elist along with all the other stuff I currently have to deal
with !

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:250/1)

Hello Dale!

Saturday March 12 2022 01:07, you wrote to me:

Yes, as far as I remember otherwise I would have waited a bit.
There where a few others in the same boat.

On 03-11-22 16:11, Vincent Coen <=-
spoke to Janis Kracht about RAR Echolist Update <=-

I really have better things to do than be forced to take over
echo areas to keep them in elist along with all the other stuff I
currently have to deal with !

Question: had the listing for that echo expired when you "were forced
to take over the echo area"?

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)

... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 01:08:22, 12 Mar 2022
___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:250/1)

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and
technical assistance for users and prospective users of the
RAR archiver. Topics may include: Questions and answers on
how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN
Coordinator. English is to used in the echo.

MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38

ORIGIN: 1:261/38

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: janis@filegate.net

Updated on: 2023/02/03 and valid till 2023/12/31

Produced by Elist v5.4.018

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* Origin: Elist Maintainer at 2:25/21 (2:25/21)

Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and
technical assistance for users and prospective users of the
RAR archiver. Topics may include: Questions and answers on
how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN
Coordinator. English is to used in the echo.

MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38

ORIGIN: 1:261/38

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: jmklou@gmail.com

Updated on: 2023/02/03 and valid till 2023/12/31

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Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and
technical assistance for users and prospective users of the
RAR archiver. Topics may include: Questions and answers on
how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN
Coordinator. English is to used in the echo.

MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38

ORIGIN: 1:261/38

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: jmklou@gmail.com

Updated on: 2023/05/04 and valid till 2024/03/31

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Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and
technical assistance for users and prospective users of the
RAR archiver. Topics may include: Questions and answers on
how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN
Coordinator. English is to used in the echo.

MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38

ORIGIN: 1:261/38

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: jmklou@gmail.com

Updated on: 2023/10/30 and valid till 2024/08/31

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Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and
technical assistance for users and prospective users of the
RAR archiver. Topics may include: Questions and answers on
how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN
Coordinator. English is to used in the echo.

MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38

ORIGIN: 1:261/38

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: jmklou@gmail.com

Updated on: 2024/02/05 and valid till 2024/12/31

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Echo Successfully Updated.

TAGname: RAR Group: FIDO

TITLe: RAR International Support Echo

Language: ENGLISH

DESCription:
An International conference to provide support and
technical assistance for users and prospective users of the
RAR archiver. Topics may include: Questions and answers on
how to use the various features of RAR, Bug reports,
Information on where to obtain copies of RAR and related
programs. Announcements for RAR will be made by RAR-FDN
Coordinator. English is to used in the echo.

MODerator: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38

ORIGIN: 1:261/38

DISTribution: Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE

GATEway: NO

From: Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
Email: jmklou@gmail.com

Updated on: 2024/04/03 and valid till 2025/02/28

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