• RE: FILE_MOVERS EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:

    From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Vincent Coen on Wed Jan 3 18:13:12 2024
    ~Copied from ELIST echo
    ~Copied by Janis Kracht
    ===
    Hi Vince,

    According to your robot, my submission of the update for FILE_MOVERS had an error as noted below:


    EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:
    EL233 Error GROUP not specified.

    Now, the listing _does_ have the GROUP keyword included:

    file: FILE_MOVERS.ECO
    //
    SUBJ MOD-UPD
    TAG FILE_MOVERS
    FROM Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    TITL File Echo Distribution
    LANG English
    DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place
    DESC where file distribution coordinators
    DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution
    DESC concerns, problems and solutions.
    ORIG 1:261/38
    MOD Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    PASS 'MYOB-THIS-IS-NOT-THE-PASSWD'
    DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE
    REST /Real
    ORIG 1:261/38
    GATE NO
    GROUP FIDO
    ^^^^ right there above this line.

    Should I re-send the file ? Is the elist program getting ornery? :)

    Thanks,
    Janis

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:25/0 to Janis Kracht on Thu Jan 4 15:48:34 2024
    =============================================================================
    * Forwarded by Vincent Coen (2:25/0)
    * Area : ELIST (ELIST Conference)
    * From : Vincent Coen, 2:25/0 (Wednesday January 03 2024 23:01)
    * To : Janis Kracht
    * Subj : FILE_MOVERS EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages: ============================================================================= Hello Janis!

    Wednesday January 03 2024 13:09, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vince,

    According to your robot, my submission of the update for FILE_MOVERS
    had an error as noted below:


    EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:
    EL233 Error GROUP not specified.

    Now, the listing _does_ have the GROUP keyword included:

    file: FILE_MOVERS.ECO
    //
    SUBJ MOD-UPD
    TAG FILE_MOVERS
    FROM Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    TITL File Echo Distribution
    LANG English
    DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place
    DESC where file distribution coordinators
    DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution
    DESC concerns, problems and solutions.
    ORIG 1:261/38
    MOD Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    PASS 'MYOB-THIS-IS-NOT-THE-PASSWD'
    DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE
    REST /Real
    ORIG 1:261/38
    GATE NO
    GROUP FIDO
    ^^^^ right there above this line.

    Should I re-send the file ? Is the elist program getting ornery? :)

    Nope it is a valid rejection as far as I can see and here is what you ACTUALLY sent :

    SUBJ MOD-UPD
    TAG FILE_MOVERS
    TITL File Echo Distribution
    LANG English
    DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place
    DESC where file distribution coordinators
    DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution
    DESC concerns, problems and solutions.
    ORIG 1:261/38
    MOD Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    PASS ---- hidden ----
    DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE
    REST /Real
    ORIG 1:261/38


    So, No GROUP keyword ! (I have not checked for any other errors but will assume
    that as none is reported that is the only one).


    Now looking at the listings in BACKBONE.RPT, which I hope you have the current copy of (from the monthly archive file ELST2401.ZIP from file area ECHOLIST, I see :

    --
    TAGname: FILE_MOVERS Group: FIDO
    {Backbone}

    TITLe: File Echo Distribution

    Lang: ENGLISH

    DESCription:
    The File_Movers echo provides a place where file distribution coordinators
    and HUBs can discuss distribution concerns, problems and solutions.

    Updated on: 2023/02/21
    --

    Note the date it was updated. This shows that the echo expired a long time
    ago and has been moved over to the BACKBONE so you would not have been able to update it as far as I remember as you are no longer the moderator as elistmaint
    has taken it over as happens with all expired echo's.


    The same will apply to any other echo that have expired for which a moderator has not updated and the system auto assumes that they have dropped it for what ever reason and it is preserved into the backbone unless deleted because of zero traffic over 12 months and for that I must admit I have been lax in not going over them to compare with my system records of any postings.

    It is somewhat time consuming and the space consumed in the data files is small
    for such echos but there is no doubt a lot of dead wood (no traffic).


    Vincent

    -!- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.4/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    ! Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:25/0) =============================================================================

    Hello Janis!

    See my response above.

    Vincent

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Vincent Coen on Tue Jan 9 20:37:54 2024
    Vince, obviously your system dropped the last 3 or 4 lines of the record I sent.

    I will send another one tonight.

    :)

    ============================================================================= * Forwarded by Vincent Coen (2:25/0)
    * Area : ELIST (ELIST Conference)
    * From : Vincent Coen, 2:25/0 (Wednesday January 03 2024 23:01)
    * To : Janis Kracht
    * Subj : FILE_MOVERS EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages: ============================================================================= Hello Janis!

    Wednesday January 03 2024 13:09, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vince,

    According to your robot, my submission of the update for FILE_MOVERS
    had an error as noted below:


    EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:
    EL233 Error GROUP not specified.

    Now, the listing _does_ have the GROUP keyword included:

    file: FILE_MOVERS.ECO
    //
    SUBJ MOD-UPD
    TAG FILE_MOVERS
    FROM Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    TITL File Echo Distribution
    LANG English
    DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place
    DESC where file distribution coordinators
    DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution
    DESC concerns, problems and solutions.
    ORIG 1:261/38
    MOD Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    PASS 'MYOB-THIS-IS-NOT-THE-PASSWD'
    DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE
    REST /Real
    ORIG 1:261/38
    GATE NO
    GROUP FIDO
    ^^^^ right there above this line.

    Should I re-send the file ? Is the elist program getting ornery? :)

    Nope it is a valid rejection as far as I can see and here is what you ACTUALLY
    sent :

    SUBJ MOD-UPD
    TAG FILE_MOVERS
    TITL File Echo Distribution
    LANG English
    DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place
    DESC where file distribution coordinators
    DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution
    DESC concerns, problems and solutions.
    ORIG 1:261/38
    MOD Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    PASS ---- hidden ----
    DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE
    REST /Real
    ORIG 1:261/38


    So, No GROUP keyword ! (I have not checked for any other errors but will assume
    that as none is reported that is the only one).


    Now looking at the listings in BACKBONE.RPT, which I hope you have the current >copy of (from the monthly archive file ELST2401.ZIP from file area ECHOLIST, I
    see :

    --
    TAGname: FILE_MOVERS Group: FIDO
    {Backbone}

    TITLe: File Echo Distribution

    Lang: ENGLISH

    DESCription:
    The File_Movers echo provides a place where file distribution coordinators and HUBs can discuss distribution concerns, problems and solutions.

    Updated on: 2023/02/21
    --

    Note the date it was updated. This shows that the echo expired a long time
    ago and has been moved over to the BACKBONE so you would not have been able to
    update it as far as I remember as you are no longer the moderator as elistmaint
    has taken it over as happens with all expired echo's.


    The same will apply to any other echo that have expired for which a moderator
    has not updated and the system auto assumes that they have dropped it for what
    ever reason and it is preserved into the backbone unless deleted because of zero traffic over 12 months and for that I must admit I have been lax in not going over them to compare with my system records of any postings.

    It is somewhat time consuming and the space consumed in the data files is small
    for such echos but there is no doubt a lot of dead wood (no traffic).


    Vincent

    -!- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.4/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    ! Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:25/0) =============================================================================

    Hello Janis!

    See my response above.

    Vincent

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:25/0 to Janis Kracht on Wed Jan 10 02:29:24 2024
    Hello Janis!

    Tuesday January 09 2024 20:37, you wrote to me:

    Vince, obviously your system dropped the last 3 or 4 lines of the
    record I sent.

    I will send another one tonight.

    OR your system dropped the missing lines as I have no reports foof errors during your drop off.


    Mind you that is not bullet proof.

    Did you read the rest of the message I sent ?

    Vince


    ====================================================================
    ========= * Forwarded by Vincent Coen (2:25/0) * Area : ELIST (ELIST
    Conference) * From : Vincent Coen, 2:25/0 (Wednesday January 03 2024
    23:01) * To : Janis Kracht * Subj : FILE_MOVERS EL230 Errors found
    in MOD submission, see messages:
    ====================================================================
    ========= Hello Janis!

    Wednesday January 03 2024 13:09, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vince,

    According to your robot, my submission of the update for
    FILE_MOVERS had an error as noted below:


    EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:
    EL233 Error GROUP not specified.

    Now, the listing _does_ have the GROUP keyword included:

    file: FILE_MOVERS.ECO
    //
    SUBJ MOD-UPD
    TAG FILE_MOVERS
    FROM Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    TITL File Echo Distribution
    LANG English
    DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place
    DESC where file distribution coordinators
    DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution
    DESC concerns, problems and solutions.
    ORIG 1:261/38
    MOD Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    PASS 'MYOB-THIS-IS-NOT-THE-PASSWD'
    DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE
    REST /Real
    ORIG 1:261/38
    GATE NO
    GROUP FIDO
    ^^^^ right there above this line.

    Should I re-send the file ? Is the elist program getting ornery?
    :)

    Nope it is a valid rejection as far as I can see and here is what you
    ACTUALLY sent :

    SUBJ MOD-UPD
    TAG FILE_MOVERS
    TITL File Echo Distribution
    LANG English
    DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place
    DESC where file distribution coordinators
    DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution
    DESC concerns, problems and solutions.
    ORIG 1:261/38
    MOD Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com
    PASS ---- hidden ----
    DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE
    REST /Real
    ORIG 1:261/38


    So, No GROUP keyword ! (I have not checked for any other errors but
    will assume that as none is reported that is the only one).


    Now looking at the listings in BACKBONE.RPT, which I hope you have
    the current copy of (from the monthly archive file ELST2401.ZIP from
    file area ECHOLIST, I see :

    --
    TAGname: FILE_MOVERS Group: FIDO
    {Backbone}

    TITLe: File Echo Distribution

    Lang: ENGLISH

    DESCription:
    The File_Movers echo provides a place where file distribution
    coordinators and HUBs can discuss distribution concerns, problems
    and solutions.

    Updated on: 2023/02/21
    --

    Note the date it was updated. This shows that the echo expired a
    long time ago and has been moved over to the BACKBONE so you would
    not have been able to update it as far as I remember as you are no
    longer the moderator as elistmaint has taken it over as happens with
    all expired echo's.


    The same will apply to any other echo that have expired for which a
    moderator has not updated and the system auto assumes that they have
    dropped it for what ever reason and it is preserved into the
    backbone unless deleted because of zero traffic over 12 months and
    for that I must admit I have been lax in not going over them to
    compare with my system records of any postings.

    It is somewhat time consuming and the space consumed in the data
    files is small for such echos but there is no doubt a lot of dead
    wood (no traffic).


    Vincent

    -!- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.4/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    ! Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:25/0)
    ====================================================================
    =========

    Hello Janis!

    See my response above.

    Vincent



    Vincent

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Vincent Coen on Wed Jan 31 10:50:18 2024
    ... I have no reports foof errors ...

    In Flanders this could be gravely misunderstood.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:25/0 to Ward Dossche on Wed Jan 31 15:30:06 2024
    Hello Ward!

    Wednesday January 31 2024 10:50, you wrote to me:

    ... I have no reports foof errors ...

    In Flanders this could be gravely misunderstood.

    \%/@rd

    I will take your word on that :)


    Vincent

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Janis Kracht on Sat Feb 3 17:50:52 2024
    ... I have no reports foof errors ...

    In Flanders this could be gravely misunderstood.

    Foof indeed... Lol

    You're such a multi-linguist ... :-)

    \%/@rd

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Ward Dossche on Sun Feb 4 19:56:54 2024
    ... I have no reports foof errors ...

    In Flanders this could be gravely misunderstood.

    Foof indeed... Lol

    You're such a multi-linguist ... :-)

    I know... I was just born this way.

    :)

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