• Re: Handicapped

    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jan 13 03:58:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    haven't had one since. Our daughter Rachel has a combo built in oven
    and microwwave stack--says the oven takes a long time to preheat and
    the microwave isn't very high (tall) so she can't do a lot of things in it. Her cook top is gas.

    I never had an oven, gas or electric, that took very long to come to temperature. My curret nuker is above the stove. And I'm going to have

    Must be the one she chose when the house was being built. I don't
    recall the brand name. My microwave is above the range also; I think
    it's the 2nd one since we bought the house.

    to repair/replace it. I have to press in on the door to get it to
    "fire up". That's not a big deal but it's not going to fix itself. It
    was here when I bought the house - so, I have no idea how old it is.
    But I know the brand name is a "house" brand for Menard's. It's
    been a good, useful appliance for me.

    Sounds like it has done well over the years. I think the longest we've
    had one is about 9 years; they seem to go belly up before reaching 10.

    I've been here about that long. Dunno how long the nuker was in place
    when I bought the joint, though.

    electric even though gas is easier/more convenient. Fossil fuels
    being a finite commodity - I'll have solar panels as my roofing
    material. Wind gonna blow and sun gonna shine.

    I'd rather have a gas stove but Steve keeps saying that it's bad
    for my asthma. Place isn't set up for it so we've got a smooth
    top range instead, with a combo convection/conventional oven.

    How is a gas stove going to be bad for your asthma? I don't understand.
    But, then, there's a lot about the world that I don't "get". Bv)=

    The oven in my range is just oven. I do have a countertop convection
    oven - which is just a big air-fryer. Given my limited counter space
    it lives in the pantry on a shelf until needed.

    We've got a small toaster oven that's also a convection oven, sits on
    the counter betwee stove and fridge.

    Be nice to have that much room. My stove and ice box are cheek by jowl.
    Then there's a 10 inch or so counter top and the sink.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Kitchen Sink Cookie Bars
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Nuts, Chocolate
    Yield: 18 servings

    1/2 c Butter; softened
    3/4 c Sugar
    2 lg Eggs
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    3/4 c All-purpose flour
    1/2 c Chopped pecans
    2 tb Baking cocoa
    1/4 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Salt
    2 c Miniature marshmallows
    1 c Semisweet chocolate chips
    1 c Peanut butter
    1 1/2 c Crispy rice cereal

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    In a large bowl, cream butter and sugar with an electric
    mixer, then beat in eggs and vanilla.

    In a separate bowl, combine flour, pecans, cocoa, baking
    powder, and salt; add to butter mixture, blending
    thoroughly.

    Spread mixture into a greased 9- x 13-inch baking pan.
    Bake 15 to 20 minutes or until a wooden toothpick
    inserted in center comes out clean. Sprinkle
    marshmallows evenly over top and bake an additional 3
    minutes. Remove from oven to cool.

    In a small saucepan, melt chocolate chips and peanut
    butter together over low heat; remove from heat and stir
    in cereal. Spread mixture over cooled uncut bars. Chill,
    then cut into 3- x 6-inch bars. Keep refrigerated.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jan 13 14:00:20 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Must be the one she chose when the house was being built. I don't
    recall the brand name. My microwave is above the range also; I think
    it's the 2nd one since we bought the house.

    to repair/replace it. I have to press in on the door to get it to
    "fire up". That's not a big deal but it's not going to fix itself. It
    was here when I bought the house - so, I have no idea how old it is.
    But I know the brand name is a "house" brand for Menard's. It's
    been a good, useful appliance for me.

    Sounds like it has done well over the years. I think the longest we've
    had one is about 9 years; they seem to go belly up before reaching 10.

    I've been here about that long. Dunno how long the nuker was in place
    when I bought the joint, though.

    There was no microwave in this house when we bought it. It had a stove
    which we replaced right away (donated old one to our church), a
    dishwasher that's still going and a fridge which we replaced 6 years ago
    with a bigger one. Bought the house in late November, 2014 but Steve did
    some work on it before we moved in, first week end of December.

    electric even though gas is easier/more convenient. Fossil fuels
    being a finite commodity - I'll have solar panels as my roofing DD>
    material. Wind gonna blow and sun gonna shine.

    I'd rather have a gas stove but Steve keeps saying that it's bad
    for my asthma. Place isn't set up for it so we've got a smooth
    top range instead, with a combo convection/conventional oven.

    How is a gas stove going to be bad for your asthma? I don't
    understand. But, then, there's a lot about the world that I don't
    "get". Bv)=

    Microscopic particles that cause pollution, bad for lungs, etc according
    to scientists.

    The oven in my range is just oven. I do have a countertop
    convection DD> oven - which is just a big air-fryer. Given my limited
    counter space DD> it lives in the pantry on a shelf until needed.

    We've got a small toaster oven that's also a convection oven, sits on
    the counter betwee stove and fridge.

    Be nice to have that much room. My stove and ice box are cheek by
    jowl. Then there's a 10 inch or so counter top and the sink.

    Sounds about like our camper. Fridge, stove and sink are all in a line,
    with a small counter to the side of the sink. Other side of that area is seating--2 bench seats (with backs) and a table. That area morphs into a
    bed, which we made up once when our grand daughters stayed with us in
    Utah. The sofa is sort of like a futon bed, also used for the other
    grand daughter. Both of those might sleep 2 smaller kids but in reality,
    only one adult size with any degree of comfort.


    ... I hate when green jellybeans are mint instead of lime

    OTOH, I'd rather have mint jellybeans instead of lime. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jan 15 06:02:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Must be the one she chose when the house was being built. I don't
    recall the brand name. My microwave is above the range also; I think
    it's the 2nd one since we bought the house.

    to repair/replace it. I have to press in on the door to get it to
    "fire up". That's not a big deal but it's not going to fix itself. It
    was here when I bought the house - so, I have no idea how old it is.
    But I know the brand name is a "house" brand for Menard's. It's
    been a good, useful appliance for me.

    Sounds like it has done well over the years. I think the longest we've
    had one is about 9 years; they seem to go belly up before reaching 10.

    This is my second "over the stove" nuker. My first was one I inherited
    when my mom fell off her twig. It was a Litton smooth top with the nuker
    on top and a conventional oven under. It worked nicely

    I've been here about that long. Dunno how long the nuker was in place
    when I bought the joint, though.

    There was no microwave in this house when we bought it. It had a stove which we replaced right away (donated old one to our church), a
    dishwasher that's still going and a fridge which we replaced 6 years
    ago with a bigger one. Bought the house in late November, 2014 but
    Steve did some work on it before we moved in, first week end of
    December.

    My ice box is going a good job. Gonna have to have a service call to
    fix the ice maker though. After I'm done with my morning coffee I mostly
    drink water the rest of the day - so I go through a fair amount of ice.

    electric even though gas is easier/more convenient. Fossil fuels
    being a finite commodity - I'll have solar panels as my roofing DD>
    material. Wind gonna blow and sun gonna shine.

    I'd rather have a gas stove but Steve keeps saying that it's bad
    for my asthma. Place isn't set up for it so we've got a smooth
    top range instead, with a combo convection/conventional oven.

    How is a gas stove going to be bad for your asthma? I don't
    understand. But, then, there's a lot about the world that I don't
    "get". Bv)=

    Microscopic particles that cause pollution, bad for lungs, etc
    according to scientists.

    And for every one of those scientests there is another who will say that
    he's a rhinestone studded, rhodium-plated doofus. Bv)= Still it's a
    lot better to err on the side of caution.

    The oven in my range is just oven. I do have a countertop
    convection DD> oven - which is just a big air-fryer. Given my limited
    counter space DD> it lives in the pantry on a shelf until needed.

    We've got a small toaster oven that's also a convection oven, sits on
    the counter betwee stove and fridge.

    Be nice to have that much room. My stove and ice box are cheek by
    jowl. Then there's a 10 inch or so counter top and the sink.

    Sounds about like our camper. Fridge, stove and sink are all in a line, with a small counter to the side of the sink. Other side of that area
    is seating--2 bench seats (with backs) and a table. That area morphs
    into a bed, which we made up once when our grand daughters stayed with
    us in Utah. The sofa is sort of like a futon bed, also used for the
    other grand daughter. Both of those might sleep 2 smaller kids but in reality, only one adult size with any degree of comfort.

    My kitchen is cramped - but not that cramped. Nor as moblie. Gotta beat
    cooking over a campfire.

    ... I hate when green jellybeans are mint instead of lime

    OTOH, I'd rather have mint jellybeans instead of lime. (G)

    Just a tag line. I don't care either was as I like both flavours. And I
    don't eat jellybeans (or gummies).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Minty Lamb Burgers
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Sandwiches, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Ground lamb
    1 sm Onion; coarse grated
    1 ts Garlic; minced fine
    1/4 c Fresh mint; chopped
    Salt & ground pepper
    4 Hamburger buns; toasted
    4 sl Tomato
    1/3 c Plain yoghurt; drained

    Prepare hot coals for grilling. place the ground lamb
    in a bowl and mix well with onion, garlic and chopped
    mint, being sure not to overmix. Season to taste with
    salt and pepper.

    Gently form the mixture into 4 patties. Grill the
    burgers over hot coals, 3" from heat, for about 4
    minutes per side for rare meat, or 5 minutes per
    side for medium rare.

    Serve the lamb burgers immediately on buns topped
    with a tomato slice and a dollop of yogurt, if desired.

    Recipe By: Sheila Lukins, Parade magazine, 5/22/94

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jan 15 14:08:26 2025
    Hi Dae,

    Sounds like it has done well over the years. I think the longest we've
    had one is about 9 years; they seem to go belly up before reaching 10.

    This is my second "over the stove" nuker. My first was one I inherited when my mom fell off her twig. It was a Litton smooth top with the
    nuker on top and a conventional oven under. It worked nicely

    Litton is a not that well known name for appliances; I've heard it
    before but don't really know much about them, their quality, etc.

    I've been here about that long. Dunno how long the nuker was in place
    when I bought the joint, though.

    There was no microwave in this house when we bought it. It had a stove which we replaced right away (donated old one to our church), a
    dishwasher that's still going and a fridge which we replaced 6 years
    ago with a bigger one. Bought the house in late November, 2014 but

    My ice box is going a good job. Gonna have to have a service call to
    fix the ice maker though. After I'm done with my morning coffee I
    mostly drink water the rest of the day - so I go through a fair amount
    of ice.

    I'll only put ice in my drinks if it is really warm, most often drink everything (usually just water) cool. Guess it's a lingering remnant of
    our time in Germany where drinks were rarely served with ice so I got
    used to that temperature. Also, when I was growing up, my parents didn't
    use a lot of ice in drinks but we had nice cold well water so ice wasn't
    really needed.

    How is a gas stove going to be bad for your asthma? I don't
    understand. But, then, there's a lot about the world that I don't
    "get". Bv)=

    Microscopic particles that cause pollution, bad for lungs, etc
    according to scientists.

    And for every one of those scientests there is another who will say
    that he's a rhinestone studded, rhodium-plated doofus. Bv)= Still
    it's a lot better to err on the side of caution.

    True, but the house isn't really set up for a gas stove at this point.
    It would involve a lot of re-working the kitchen area so I'll just
    settle for the electric stove and occaisionally growl about it.


    Be nice to have that much room. My stove and ice box are cheek by
    jowl. Then there's a 10 inch or so counter top and the sink.

    Sounds about like our camper. Fridge, stove and sink are all in a line, with a small counter to the side of the sink. Other side of that area
    is seating--2 bench seats (with backs) and a table. That area morphs
    into a bed, which we made up once when our grand daughters stayed with
    us in Utah. The sofa is sort of like a futon bed, also used for the
    other grand daughter. Both of those might sleep 2 smaller kids but in reality, only one adult size with any degree of comfort.

    My kitchen is cramped - but not that cramped. Nor as moblie. Gotta
    beat cooking over a campfire.

    Quite often when we're set up somewhere for longer than overnight, Steve
    will pull out the camp stove and do a lot of the cooking outside. Part
    of that is because the smoke detector in the R-Pod was positioned so
    that much of any use of the stove would set it off. We'd either throw a
    towel over it or take it down when we wanted to cook. The Grey Wolf has
    a small outdoor "kitchen" of an ice maker, fridge and small stove top;
    I've never used it.

    ... I hate when green jellybeans are mint instead of lime

    OTOH, I'd rather have mint jellybeans instead of lime. (G)

    Just a tag line. I don't care either was as I like both flavours. And
    I don't eat jellybeans (or gummies).

    I know, but it's fun replying to one like that. I do eat jellybeans and gummies, the latter on a regular basis as a couple of the suppliments we
    take are gummies.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jan 19 05:24:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Litton is a not that well known name for appliances; I've heard it
    before but don't really know much about them, their quality, etc.

    Litton was/is big in electronics and a major defense
    contractor/supplier or radar, sonar and radio equipment, The quality
    of that unit was most
    excellent. In 1976 mom paid around U$800 for it. That works out to
    U$4400 today. For that kind of treasure it *should*n have been (and
    was) top drawer.

    She got one of the early on the home consumer market microwaves. Both
    my mom and my MIL got theirs in 1982; I got my first one in 1984. We bought it about a week after Steve got his first computer--a Commodore
    64 with a datasette drive. He upgraded it to a floppy hard drive about
    a year later, after getting a nice TDY (temporary duty) settlement.

    Mid 1970s. She got it while me father was still with us and he passed
    in '75.

    Microwaves were first sold in the late 40s. My friend Les' brother Don
    had a small Amana nuker that he "rescued" from the St. Nicholas Hotel's
    kitchen when the hotel closed and converted to condos. It dated from the
    1950s.

    My ice box is going a good job. Gonna have to have a service call
    to ix the ice maker though. After I'm done with my morning coffee
    I mostly drink water the rest of the day - so I go through a fair
    amount of ice.

    I'll only put ice in my drinks if it is really warm, most often drink everything (usually just water) cool. Guess it's a lingering remnant of our time in Germany where drinks were rarely served with ice so I got
    used to that temperature. Also, when I was growing up, my parents
    didn't use a lot of ice in drinks but we had nice cold well water so
    ice wasn't really needed.

    In practice I've been freezing ice in a regular ice cube tray and filling
    the "catch" pan. It's a bit less convenient but workable,

    I've been ice forever. My main drink, at home, is a tall glass of iced water with a shot of lemon juice to give it a little flavour.

    My main drink at home is water run thru a reverse osmosis filter. This time of year it is cold enough that no ice is needed. When we're out,
    it's usually water with lemon, unless we're at a Mexican place that has hortchata.

    8<---- SNIP ----->8

    ... I hate when green jellybeans are mint instead of lime

    OTOH, I'd rather have mint jellybeans instead of lime. (G)

    Just a tag line. I don't care either was as I like both flavours. And
    I don't eat jellybeans (or gummies).

    I know, but it's fun replying to one like that. I do eat jellybeans and gummies, the latter on a regular basis as a couple of the suppliments
    we take are gummies.

    I do my supplements and medications (other than the inhalers) mostly
    as pills/capsules. No gummies. I don't think they make a senior multivitamon in a Flintstones gummy. Bv)=

    Would you take it if they did? (G)

    Probably stick with the Puritan's Pride version I've been taking for
    the last 15 or so years,

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mexican Cobb Salad
    Categories: Greens, Vegetables, Fruits, Beans, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    8 c Mixed greens
    1 c Tomato; diced
    1 c Red onion; diced
    1 c Jicama or carrot; peeled,
    - diced
    1 c Bell pepper; diced
    1 c Fresh corn kernels *
    1 c Avocado; peeled and diced
    16 oz Can black beans; rinsed,
    - drained
    1 c Monterey Jack; shredded **
    1 c Baked tortilla chips; coarse
    - crushed

    MMMMM-----------------LIME-CILANTRO VINAIGRETTE----------------------
    3/4 c Tomato juice
    1/2 c Cilantro sprigs
    1/4 c Fresh lime juice
    1/2 ts Dried oregano
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Ground cumin
    1 sm Jalapeno; halved, seeded ***

    * Frozen, thawed if fresh is out of season
    ** Pepper Jack will work here, as well - UDD
    *** Serrano works well for a bit more heat and a
    somewhat different flavour profile.

    TO MAKE THE SALAD: Place 2 cups of mixed salad greens on
    each of 4 plates. Arrange 1/4 cup tomato,1/4 cup onion,
    1/4 cup jicama, 1/4 cup bell pepper, 1/4 cup corn, 1/4
    cup avocado, and one-fourth of beans in individual rows
    over the salad greens. Sprinkle 1/4 cup Monterey Jack
    cheese and 1/4 cup crushed chips over each salad.
    Drizzle 1/4 cup lime-cilantro vinaigrette over each
    salad.

    TO MAKE THE LIME-CILANTRO VINAIGRETTE: Place ingredients
    in a food processor or blender; process until smooth.
    Pour into a bowl; set aside. Yield: 1 cup

    Makes 4 servings

    Source: Compliments of the Idaho Bean Commission

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jan 19 20:57:42 2025
    Hi Dave,

    She got one of the early on the home consumer market microwaves. Both
    my mom and my MIL got theirs in 1982; I got my first one in 1984. We bought it about a week after Steve got his first computer--a Commodore
    64 with a datasette drive. He upgraded it to a floppy hard drive about
    a year later, after getting a nice TDY (temporary duty) settlement.

    Mid 1970s. She got it while me father was still with us and he passed
    in '75.

    Microwaves were first sold in the late 40s. My friend Les' brother Don
    had a small Amana nuker that he "rescued" from the St. Nicholas
    Hotel's kitchen when the hotel closed and converted to condos. It
    dated from the 1950s.

    Nice that he was able to get it then. Must have been interesting,
    figuring out cooking times and what would/wouldn't work cooked in it.



    In practice I've been freezing ice in a regular ice cube tray and
    filling the "catch" pan. It's a bit less convenient but workable,

    I've been ice forever. My main drink, at home, is a tall glass of iced water with a shot of lemon juice to give it a little flavour.

    My main drink at home is water run thru a reverse osmosis filter. This time of year it is cold enough that no ice is needed. When we're out,
    it's usually water with lemon, unless we're at a Mexican place that has hortchata.

    We have an ice maker on the fridge, a convenience but one I can live
    with. (G)

    gummies, the latter on a regular basis as a couple of the suppliments
    we take are gummies.

    I do my supplements and medications (other than the inhalers) mostly
    as pills/capsules. No gummies. I don't think they make a senior multivitamon in a Flintstones gummy. Bv)=

    Would you take it if they did? (G)

    Probably stick with the Puritan's Pride version I've been taking for
    the last 15 or so years,

    Your choice. We've used different ones over the years but some time ago
    started with the Costco Mature Multis for both of us. We take mostly the
    same extras (C, elderberry, etc) but I add a few others, and, of course,
    our prescription meds are different.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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