Hey Ozz!

Below is a list of hex strings that match the utf8 equivelents for different IBM codepages. Note that most, if indeed not all, of the line/box characters in CP437 and CP866 match whereas CP850 and CP855 match the more used ones such as dec 176. I created the table using glibc's 'iconv' piped to 'xxd -ps' to come up with the hex strings. For outputting a specific decimal code for all codepages a simple bash 'echo' can be encorporated such as this for decimal 155;

echo -e "\xc2\xa2 \xc3\xb8 \xd0\x8f \xd0\xab" -> ¢ ø Џ Ы

Dec CP437 CP850 CP855 CP866
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128 c387 c387 d192 d090
129 c3bc c3bc d082 d091
130 c3a9 c3a9 d193 d092
131 c3a2 c3a2 d083 d093
132 c3a4 c3a4 d191 d094
133 c3a0 c3a0 d081 d095
134 c3a5 c3a5 d194 d096
135 c3a7 c3a7 d084 d097
136 c3aa c3aa d195 d098
137 c3ab c3ab d085 d099
138 c3a8 c3a8 d196 d09a
139 c3af c3af d086 d09b
140 c3ae c3ae d197 d09c
141 c3ac c3ac d087 d09d
142 c384 c384 d198 d09e
143 c385 c385 d088 d09f
144 c389 c389 d199 d0a0
145 c3a6 c3a6 d089 d0a1
146 c386 c386 d19a d0a2
147 c3b4 c3b4 d08a d0a3
148 c3b6 c3b6 d19b d0a4
149 c3b2 c3b2 d08b d0a5
150 c3bb c3bb d19c d0a6
151 c3b9 c3b9 d08c d0a7
152 c3bf c3bf d19e d0a8
153 c396 c396 d08e d0a9
154 c39c c39c d19f d0aa
155 c2a2 c3b8 d08f d0ab
156 c2a3 c2a3 d18e d0ac
157 c2a5 c398 d0ae d0ad
158 e282a7 c397 d18a d0ae
159 c692 c692 d0aa d0af
160 c3a1 c3a1 d0b0 d0b0
161 c3ad c3ad d090 d0b1
162 c3b3 c3b3 d0b1 d0b2
163 c3ba c3ba d091 d0b3
164 c3b1 c3b1 d186 d0b4
165 c391 c391 d0a6 d0b5
166 c2aa c2aa d0b4 d0b6
167 c2ba c2ba d094 d0b7
168 c2bf c2bf d0b5 d0b8
169 e28c90 c2ae d095 d0b9
170 c2ac c2ac d184 d0ba
171 c2bd c2bd d0a4 d0bb
172 c2bc c2bc d0b3 d0bc
173 c2a1 c2a1 d093 d0bd
174 c2ab c2ab c2ab d0be
175 c2bb c2bb c2bb d0bf
176 e29691 e29691 e29691 e29691
177 e29692 e29692 e29692 e29692
178 e29693 e29693 e29693 e29693
179 e29482 e29482 e29482 e29482
180 e294a4 e294a4 e294a4 e294a4
181 e295a1 c381 d185 e295a1
182 e295a2 c382 d0a5 e295a2
183 e29596 c380 d0b8 e29596
184 e29595 c2a9 d098 e29595
185 e295a3 e295a3 e295a3 e295a3
186 e29591 e29591 e29591 e29591
187 e29597 e29597 e29597 e29597
188 e2959d e2959d e2959d e2959d
189 e2959c c2a2 d0b9 e2959c
190 e2959b c2a5 d099 e2959b
191 e29490 e29490 e29490 e29490
192 e29494 e29494 e29494 e29494
193 e294b4 e294b4 e294b4 e294b4
194 e294ac e294ac e294ac e294ac
195 e2949c e2949c e2949c e2949c
196 e29480 e29480 e29480 e29480
197 e294bc e294bc e294bc e294bc
198 e2959e c3a3 d0ba e2959e
199 e2959f c383 d09a e2959f
200 e2959a e2959a e2959a e2959a
201 e29594 e29594 e29594 e29594
202 e295a9 e295a9 e295a9 e295a9
203 e295a6 e295a6 e295a6 e295a6
204 e295a0 e295a0 e295a0 e295a0
205 e29590 e29590 e29590 e29590
206 e295ac e295ac e295ac e295ac
207 e295a7 c2a4 c2a4 e295a7
208 e295a8 c3b0 d0bb e295a8
209 e295a4 c390 d09b e295a4
210 e295a5 c38a d0bc e295a5
211 e29599 c38b d09c e29599
212 e29598 c388 d0bd e29598
213 e29592 c4b1 d09d e29592
214 e29593 c38d d0be e29593
215 e295ab c38e d09e e295ab
216 e295aa c38f d0bf e295aa
217 e29498 e29498 e29498 e29498
218 e2948c e2948c e2948c e2948c
219 e29688 e29688 e29688 e29688
220 e29684 e29684 e29684 e29684
221 e2968c c2a6 d09f e2968c
222 e29690 c38c d18f e29690
223 e29680 e29680 e29680 e29680
224 ceb1 c393 d0af d180
225 c39f c39f d180 d181
226 ce93 c394 d0a0 d182
227 cf80 c392 d181 d183
228 cea3 c3b5 d0a1 d184
229 cf83 c395 d182 d185
230 c2b5 c2b5 d0a2 d186
231 cf84 c3be d183 d187
232 cea6 c39e d0a3 d188
233 ce98 c39a d0b6 d189
234 cea9 c39b d096 d18a
235 ceb4 c399 d0b2 d18b
236 e2889e c3bd d092 d18c
237 cf86 c39d d18c d18d
238 ceb5 c2af d0ac d18e
239 e288a9 c2b4 e28496 d18f
240 e289a1 c2ad c2ad d081
241 c2b1 c2b1 d18b d191
242 e289a5 e28097 d0ab d084
243 e289a4 c2be d0b7 d194
244 e28ca0 c2b6 d097 d087
245 e28ca1 c2a7 d188 d197
246 c3b7 c3b7 d0a8 d08e
247 e28988 c2b8 d18d d19e
248 c2b0 c2b0 d0ad c2b0
249 e28899 c2a8 d189 e28899
250 c2b7 c2b7 d0a9 c2b7
251 e2889a c2b9 d187 e2889a
252 e281bf c2b3 d0a7 e28496
253 c2b2 c2b2 c2a7 c2a4
254 e296a0 e296a0 e296a0 e296a0
255 c2a0 c2a0 c2a0 c2a0
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Let me know what you think of the idea and I am sure we could come up with a better map if it matters. Bottom line is that you could come up with a "bottom line" in 8 bit codes that will be the same for the above codepages and potentially more.

Life is good,
Maurice

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On 2019-04-25 21:27:09 +0000, Maurice Kinal -> Ozz Nixon said:

Dec CP437 CP850 CP855 CP866

Let me know what you think of the idea and I am sure we could come up with a better map if it matters. Bottom line is that you could come up with a "bottom line" in 8 bit codes that will be the same for the above codepages

and

potentially more.

The challenge is, how common is it for the end user to know their CodePage?

I am always looking for ways to auto-detect... for example, I send 3 3
byte UTF codes at the start of my BBSes - send ANSI 6n, if I get 10;1 I
know NOT UTF, if I get 4;1, I know UTF.

Right now, 10;1 I assume CP437 output. And 4;1 goes through my CP437 ->
UTF8 map - built into my socket layer.

Now yes, the effort you did, has been "absorbed" into my mappings ...
just wonder if there is a way to detect their Terminal CodePage. I know
there are a few other ANSI inqueries - terminal, and height/width.
However, I rely on the TELNET IAC inqueries right now for terminal,
height and width. (which won't work on Dial-up.. and I have been asked
to keep Dial-up in the next release).


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Hallo Ozz!

The challenge is, how common is it for the end user to know their CodePage?

I'd say the odds are against you. The safest bet is to stick with 7 bit ascii codes in text messaging, but then where is the fun in that?

just wonder if there is a way to detect their Terminal CodePage.

I know that and half-decent telnet clients used to report columns and lines to the mothership it was connecting to. Also I believe web servers such as Apache can and will obtain that sort of information from clients using cgi scripts and the such.

which won't work on Dial-up.. and I have been asked to keep
Dial-up in the next release

Understood. I haven't used dialup in at least 20 plus years now. If I am not mistaken my last dialup BBS (DOS Maximus) was in 1996-ish.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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