• Beginner's Guide to Women: (For Men Who Don't Read Instructions)

    From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Red Green on Mon Dec 20 22:37:56 2021
    Hey Red!

    The last test is broken due to noncompliance; no support for type 2 headers which is still the standard.

    I don't think duct tape is going to fix it.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Forbær oft ðæt þu eaðe wrecan mæge.
    Forbear often where you might easily take vengeance.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Dec 20 15:57:12 2021
    The last test is broken due to noncompliance; no support for type 2 headers which is still the standard.

    What test failed? Anything I can help with?

    I don't think duct tape is going to fix it.

    Duct tape is not a universal cure.. :)

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Alan Ianson on Mon Dec 20 16:00:22 2021
    Hey Alan!

    What test failed? Anything I can help with?

    The uplink in question obviously cannot handle type 2 headers. It isn't you btw since we both know your link can handle both 2 and 2+ as we've already tested it successfully.

    Don't you just love my tests?

    Duct tape is not a universal cure.. :)

    BLASPHEMY!!!

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... damned if you do ... damned if you don't ... so go to hell.
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    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Tue Dec 21 15:42:32 2021
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2021-12-20 22:37:57, you wrote to Red Green:

    The last test is broken due to noncompliance; no support for type 2 headers which is still the standard.

    I don't know if you are refering to the test to my system, but in that case you are wrong!

    Type 2 pkt headers only contain 3D fidonet address information, so no point numbers. If you send a pkt 2 header as point with your regular point address that won't work because this happens:

    + 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] incoming session with h184-69-24-227.sbm.shawcable.net [184.69.24.227]
    - 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] SYS Little Mikey's EuroPoint
    - 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] ZYZ Maurice Kinal
    - 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] LOC Ladysmith, BC Canada
    - 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] TIME Mon, 20 Dec 2021 21:51:56 +0000
    - 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] VER binkd/1.1a-95/Linux binkp/1.1
    + 20 Dec 22:51:56 [22526] addr: 2:280/464.113@fidonet
    + 20 Dec 22:51:57 [22526] Remote has 0b of mail and 643b of files for us
    - 20 Dec 22:51:57 [22526] receiving 61c0fa9b.pkt (643 byte(s), off 0)
    + 20 Dec 22:51:57 [22526] rcvd: 61c0fa9b.pkt (643, 643.00 CPS, 2:280/464.113@fidonet)
    + 20 Dec 22:51:57 [22526] done (from 2:280/464.113@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/643 bytes))

    ------------ Mon 2021-12-20, FMail-lnx64-2.1.0.18-Beta20170815
    22:51:57.846 Toss
    22:51:57.850 Received password "*********" from node 280/464, expected "*********"
    22:51:57.850 Packet password security violation; packet file: /home/fido/inbound/61c0fa9b.pkt is renamed with extension: '.wrong_password'

    That's why fakenet's exist in tossers configurations, to handle pkts to and from "Stone Age" software...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Dec 21 16:19:46 2021
    Hey Wilfred!

    Type 2 pkt headers only contain 3D fidonet address information,
    so no point numbers.

    Okay. I'll act accordingly.

    For the record none of my points (not counting EuroPoint) don't use pkt headers at all, so this isn't an issue;

    That's why fakenet's exist in tossers configurations, to
    handle pkts to and from "Stone Age" software...

    The node is the one adding the pkt header to all outbounds not part of the local scene. I've been treating points like offline readers except without all their bloat. Keeping it simple.

    Anyhow thanks for the heads up and I believe this reply will address your concerns.

    As for my points the sky is the limit.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Leana forleosaþ, se þe hit lyþran deð.
    He who gives to an unworthy person wastes his gifts.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to Maurice Kinal on Tue Dec 21 18:02:00 2021
    Maurice,

    Duct tape is not a universal cure.. :)

    BLASPHEMY!!!

    Actually, duct tape can't fix stupid...but, it does help mask the
    noise. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Daryl Stout on Wed Dec 22 03:20:02 2021
    Hey Daryl!

    Actually, duct tape can't fix stupid...but, it does help mask
    the noise. <G>

    Bonus.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Seoc se biþ þe to seldan ieteð.
    The one who eats too seldom will be sick.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Dec 22 10:47:40 2021
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2021-12-21 16:19:47, you wrote to me:

    Type 2 pkt headers only contain 3D fidonet address information,
    so no point numbers.

    Okay. I'll act accordingly.

    For the record none of my points (not counting EuroPoint) don't use pkt headers at all, so this isn't an issue;

    This is a confusing sentence. You are using a double negative, so you are actually saying all your points use pkt headers (except for the EuroPoint). Which would be good, because otherwise they could potentially import all kinds of crap, not destined for them where the password and or the addresses don't match.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Dec 22 10:44:02 2021
    Hey Wilfred!

    so you are actually saying all your points use pkt headers
    (except for the EuroPoint).

    I meant to say the exact opposite. The EuroPoint is on it's own with you as the bossnode. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fidonet node which is where my points wish to 'talk' to since they don't wish to be nodes and require the actual node to properly service them (headers, etc). In this part of the world it is known as "Little Mikey's Brain" except to the neighbours who see it as motorshed. EuroPoint to my neighbours is mrnotfish. These are two physically different machines with two completely different setups. The only similarity is x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu, although I still haven't upgraded the EuroPoint to x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu. Apparently I am in no rush.

    Is that any better? I was always lousy at communicating especially lately while I wrestle with old age, etc.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Ræd biþ nyttost, yfel unnyttost.
    Good advice is the most useful thing, bad the least useful.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Dec 22 12:13:44 2021
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2021-12-22 10:44:03, you wrote to me:

    so you are actually saying all your points use pkt headers
    (except for the EuroPoint).

    I meant to say the exact opposite. The EuroPoint is on it's own with you as the bossnode. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fidonet node which is where my points wish to 'talk' to since they don't wish to be nodes and require the actual node to properly service them (headers, etc). In this part of the world it is known as "Little Mikey's Brain" except to the neighbours who see it as motorshed. EuroPoint to my neighbours is mrnotfish. These are two physically different machines with two completely
    different setups. The only similarity is x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu, although I still haven't upgraded the EuroPoint to x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu. Apparently I am in no rush.

    Is that any better? I was always lousy at communicating especially lately while I wrestle with old age, etc.

    You cleared it up! ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Dec 23 00:42:30 2021
    Hey Wilfred!

    You cleared it up! ;-)

    I like when that happens.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Gewurdene wyrda, ðæt beoð ða feowere fæges rapas.
    Things which have happened: those are the four ropes of the doomed.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)