• Re: Demagogue Definition

    From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 11 12:43:46 2020
    On 11 Sep 20 11:38, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    But Joe Biden is an exact match for the definition of demagogue:

    He chose Kamala Harris as his running mate because she's black-ish and fema

    Biden's mental self-destruction will be a challenge for Trump to attempt to handle things with a calm demeanor during the debates; and it won't be Trump having a challenge handling restraint, it will be Mr. Push-Up-Contest.

    The biiiiiiiiiig question is Biden's reliance on teleprompters. Trump will mop the floor with him over this. Biden going off-script sells itself.

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Fri Sep 11 23:29:14 2020
    Trump's racism, lies and demagogy are not rational.

    What racism and lies? And how can anyone's demagogery be rational? ***********************************************************
    It can not be any easy choice. I'm sorry she's not black enough for you, or white enough, male enough or whatever it is.

    You're not getting all the news about this stuff in your region, I suspect. Because Joe Biden announced, shortly after winning the primary, that his choice for VP running mate was going to be "a black female." He didn't explain why, because here in the states we just already know that Joe's promoting Affirmative Action, a defunct Democrat USA policy which aims to
    give African Americans a platform to sue potential employers if they don't
    hire them. Joe's "doing the right thing" by political correctness standards by getting a woman who has skin darker than Trump.

    But a promise is a promise; so why didn't we get a woman who was 100% black? Think about what Joe was saying, and look what he delilvered. He stabbed his constituents in the back by chosing Kamala, not only because she's just 50% black, but also because Joe's constituents voted against Kamala in the primary. Think about it. If voted for Joe in the primary because they didn't like Kamala's policies, then what a douche bag Joe is for making her VP.

    I bet Joe takes showers, but he's still a scum bag. Pandering to black voters while they're already stressed about police brutality? Offering no solution, but offering to show up at the victim's funeral months away from election day? Telling Charlemagne "if ya can't choose between me & Trump then you ain't black?"

    Al, I think you either miss TONS of news, or TONS of details. Try watching CNN, I bet they will give you way better details than any international
    or Canadaian news station.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 11 23:52:26 2020
    On 11 Sep 20 23:29, Aaron Thomas said the following to Alan Ianson:

    I bet Joe takes showers, but he's still a scum bag. Pandering to black vote while they're already stressed about police brutality? Offering no solution but offering to show up at the victim's funeral months away from election d Telling Charlemagne "if ya can't choose between me & Trump then you ain't black?"

    The disturbing thing about Biden's you-aint-black comment was not so much the comment itself, but that it was just so casual for him to say it. Like he's been saying it for years. When he was forced to apologize for it because it
    was just so damning to his campaign (and subsequently for Democrats), didn't he just shrug it off as a "wise guy moment". As in, whats the big problem.

    Its just a tad bit surreal that he chose a running mate that really took him to task in past debates about his role in race related matters, yet she seems to be happily accepting her chosen role as the token black woman. Then again, who wouldn't be happy as VP to someone who likely wouldn't last a single term?

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Sat Sep 12 00:15:48 2020
    The disturbing thing about Biden's you-aint-black comment was not so much t comment itself, but that it was just so casual for him to say it. Like he's

    I know! I wonder what goes on behind closed doors in Democrat meetings. I bet they still joke about conservatives taking their enslavement priviledges away.

    he just shrug it off as a "wise guy moment". As in, whats the big problem.

    Now that you mention it, what is a "wise-guy?" To me, a wise-guy is somebody who acts like they "know it all." So then, is Biden saying "I was being a know-it-all?" That means he was saying this:

    "I KNOW that 99% of black people will vote for me," and then by saying that he was having a "wise-guy moment," he's thereby saying "But I was wrong to say it out loud." So it's like he still hasn't learned his lesson.

    I won't hate the guy forever just for him being a lousy racist idiot, I just don't want him messing up our awesome US policy manual. He hopefully knows that he can forget about any Republican support on any far-left garbage proposals. If he will work with us, we'll work with him, but he'll be
    walking on thin ice after his involvement in the Obama administration.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Sep 12 02:05:20 2020
    That's hilarious! Biden has a very corrupt act to follow.

    Biden has decades of experience for people to look at including 8 years as vice persident beside one of the most successful presidents.

    He's going to have to try to defend the Obama administration's use of the FBI
    to spy on Trump's 2016 campaign, among many other difficult to do things. They
    will need to use a stunt-double to pose as Biden answering such questions.

    The witch hunt or the Russia hoax or are we calling it Obamagate today?

    I have a list of the jailed and indicted if you'd like to see it?

    This mess hasn't quite concluded yet. Michael Flynn admited his guilt but the current DOJ dropped, or is trying to have those charges dropped and of course Donald Trump commuted Roger Stone's sentence.

    Currently the DOJ headed by William Barr is as corrupt as the White House.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Sep 12 02:48:42 2020
    Trump's racism, lies and demagogy are not rational.

    What racism and lies? And how can anyone's demagogery be rational? ***********************************************************

    All the racism and lies.

    You're not getting all the news about this stuff in your region, I suspect. Because Joe Biden announced, shortly after winning the primary, that his
    choice for VP running mate was going to be "a black female."

    Yes, he said that and that's what he did.

    He didn't explain why, because here in the states we just already know that Joe's promoting Affirmative Action, a defunct Democrat USA policy which aims to give African Americans a platform to sue potential employers if they don't hire them. Joe's "doing the right thing" by political correctness standards by getting a woman who has skin darker than Trump.

    There are real problems today with this black/white thing, unfortunatly. Joe doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

    But a promise is a promise; so why didn't we get a woman who was 100% black?

    You're being silly again.

    Think about what Joe was saying, and look what he delilvered. He stabbed his constituents in the back by chosing Kamala, not only because she's just 50% black, but also because Joe's constituents voted against Kamala in the primary. Think about it. If voted for Joe in the primary because they didn't like Kamala's policies, then what a douche bag Joe is for making her VP.

    Sure, joe lead in the primaries and then chose Kamala as his VP pick. I thought Kamala might be the one, but it was a choice that Joe had to make as he thought best, and that's the choice Joe made.

    I bet Joe takes showers, but he's still a scum bag. Pandering to black voters while they're already stressed about police brutality? Offering no solution,
    but offering to show up at the victim's funeral months away from election day?
    Telling Charlemagne "if ya can't choose between me & Trump then you ain't black?"

    Was Joe uninvited or unwanted?

    Al, I think you either miss TONS of news, or TONS of details. Try watching CNN, I bet they will give you way better details than any international
    or Canadaian news station.

    I don't watch all of what's going on in the US but I do my best to get the facts about what I do look at.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Sat Sep 12 09:46:38 2020
    On 12 Sep 20 02:48:42, Alan Ianson said the following to Aaron Thomas:

    Trump's racism, lies and demagogy are not rational.

    What racism and lies? And how can anyone's demagogery be rational?

    All the racism and lies.

    We know Trump lies about some things, no different than any past
    President. But I've also politely asked you to specifically prove racist things Trump has said or done, unless this is all just an act to obtain troll status. Janis puts on an excellent act, almost has it down to a science.

    You must have a slightly better arguement than replying with "Google it" or little snippets of widely disproven / out-of-context Youtube clips.

    Nick

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Sun Sep 13 23:47:48 2020
    And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country. It clearly

    If there was a foreign country with a leader who was causing harm to my country, it would lead me to bash that leader a bit. But I can't see myself really caring that much about it.

    It's possible that some of these Canadian guys who don't like Trump could be dairy farmers. They could be angry about a Trump policy that mandates that no more milk be imported from Canada because Americans were unable to sell theirs due to competition with the Candians. But that shouldn't cause derrangement; Canadian dairy farmers just need to innovate and find new ways to sell their milk at home. Or maybe sell it to Mexico or Russia? But to just complain about Trump for the rest of one's life, while the cows are mooing, is a mistake.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nick Andre on Sun Sep 13 22:30:32 2020
    I'm trying to understand exactly how you arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism.

    I'd use the dictionary denition like this from dictionary.com

    A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

    Donald Trump is well known for suppressing opposition. The replacement of attorneys who investigate him or his administration, trying to block the Mueller investigation and denying and distorting information.

    Or are you going to play semantics and tell me Trump fascism has a kinda-sorta different meaning than the term used to describe actual murdering brutal dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Keeping Up With the Kim
    Jong's, etc.

    No semantics, use the dictionary definition.

    Trump doesn't hold a candle to *any* of them. As he's an "idiot" to you and a fair segment of the worldwide population, he therefore logically does not possess the mental capacity to formulate such a sudden single-handed hostile takeover of a country of 300+ million people. Whether he's voted out in November or stays another 4 years.... he's eventually gone.

    I wouldn't say it was sudden. A suprise perhaps, but it wasn't sudden.

    If you ever worked in a volunteer capacity with new immigrants to our country,
    they would be able to teach you some real harsh lessons and stories on the real meaning of "fascism" and how we silly westerners have it made big time.

    Fascism is thing that could happen anywhere. I am surprised to see it in America because of the freedom that Americans pride themselves on, and rightfully so.

    And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country. It clearly shows some insecurity, too much free time, or some kind of weird mental problem. I get that its easy to comment on things, but not rant on and on about fascism from the safety of your China-made keyboard. Thats just stupid.

    I don't like Hitler or Mussolini either.

    I don't care much for the word fascist, but I don't know a better word.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Sep 14 17:46:40 2020
    Hello Aaron,

    If there was a foreign country with a leader who was causing harm to my
    country, it would lead me to bash that leader a bit. But I can't see myself really caring that much about it.

    It's okay with you for Russia's Vladimir Putin to pay the Taliban to
    kill Americans in Afghanistan? Certainly seems to be okay with Trump,
    as he never bothered to raise the issue at all with the Russian leader.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Mon Sep 14 17:47:22 2020
    Hello Nick,

    Janis puts on an excellent act, almost has it down to a science.
    Why do you bring Janis into this?

    I mentioned that you are trying the same sort of semantic twists that she's
    a
    grandmaster at. She's an expert at echomail, I don't care what anyone says
    in fact its a strong bold compliment. She plays the semantics like a grandmaster. You're still a long way off though...

    She's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
    Just like you.

    Most times I simply put my reasons in my own words and the fews clips I >AI>provided were not "out of context" or "disproven".

    Yes they were, but who cares - I'm trying to understand exactly how you >arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism.

    Benito Mussolini had the best definition of fascism. After all,
    he wrote it. But your claim is Alan's definition is "bizarre".
    Please elaborate.

    Or are you going to play semantics and tell me Trump fascism has a
    kinda-sorta different meaning than the term used to describe actual
    murdering brutal dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Keeping Up With the Kim Jong's, etc.

    There is a huge world of difference between fascism and a personality
    cult. Mussolini's Italy was fascist. Had something happened to Il Duce,
    Italy would have continued to be fascist. Albeit under a different
    leader.

    Hitler's Nazi Germany was based on a personality cult. The personality
    cult of Adolf Hitler. Had something happened to der Fuehrer, Nazi
    Germany would have continued as a personality cult under a new Fuehrer.

    Trump doesn't hold a candle to *any* of them.

    Melania Trump has told the news media that Donald Trump has read
    Mein Kampf, as well as some of the writings of Benito Mussolini.
    Does that make Donald Trump a fascist or a dictator? Of course not.

    As he's an "idiot" to you and a fair segment of the worldwide population, he
    therefore logically does not possess the mental capacity to formulate such
    a sudden single-handed hostile
    takeover of a country of 300+ million people.

    I am not impressed by his clownish act. Some folks love it, for
    reasons only they might know. In any event, I have never claimed
    Trump is stupid or an idiot. A pathological liar, yes. But not
    stupid.

    Whether he's voted out in November or stays another 4 years.... he's
    eventually gone.

    The man is 74 years old. I expect he will drop sooner than most.

    If you ever worked in a volunteer capacity with new immigrants to our
    country, they would be able to teach you some real harsh lessons and
    stories on the real meaning of "fascism" and how we silly westerners have
    it made big time.

    Fascism is an ideology. What immigrants are describing is not fascism,
    but authoritarianism and totalitarianism. Dictatorship is more like
    government by committee, not necessarily authoritarian.

    Mussolini had to deal with the guilds, and was never in total control. Corporations had their own say and had a hold on what he could and
    could not do.

    Putin is held in check by the Russian military. If Putin acts in ways
    the military does not like, he will be pushed aside and replaced.

    Military dictatorships have no check. When soldier tells peasant
    to do something, peasant better do what soldier wants. Or no more
    peasant.

    And its incredibly hilarious to me to read from anyone any bashing of a US
    president when that person doesn't live in that fucking country.

    The POTUS claims to be the leader of the free world. As such, every
    person in the entire world is free to bash the POTUS. See how that
    works? It's the nature of the job. Exactly what the POTUS signed up
    for.

    It clearly shows some insecurity, too much free time, or some kind of weird
    mental problem.

    Freedom. Such a beautiful thing. You should try it some time.

    I get that its easy to comment on things, but not rant on and on about
    fascism from the safety of your China-made keyboard. Thats just stupid.

    Would you rather me type in Chinese characters?

    --Lee

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Mon Sep 14 12:16:58 2020
    On 13 Sep 20 22:30:32, Alan Ianson said the following to Nick Andre:

    I'm trying to understand exactly how you arrived at your bizarre definition of fascism.

    I'd use the dictionary denition like this from dictionary.com

    A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

    Exactly, and I'm not seeing any examples of Trump forcibly suppressing criticism since the AP, CBC, CTV, CNN, MSNBC and almost any other media
    outlet routinely runs negative stories about him. A fascist dictator would
    have NONE of that.

    He's even considering giving that whistleblower Snowden a pardon. Is that fascist dictator behavior?

    Fascism is thing that could happen anywhere. I am surprised to see it in America because of the freedom that Americans pride themselves on, and rightfully so.

    I'm not sure if you're trying to troll at this point or if you really need to have some simple comparisons explained to you.

    Last I checked, Americans still have their constitution, ability to vote and
    do things like burn their own flag without being executed for treason. They can also enjoy some neato things like have the freedom to buy guns and ammo, worship whatever deity they believe in and conduct regular elections.

    Seems like the complete opposite of a fascist country, yes?

    Whatever you see in the news is petty compared to what really goes on in a totalitarian regime. The protestors have the right to protest. They managed to convince the media and some politicians that defunding the police is a bright idea hence the prolonged violence and mayhem. The majority of the media reports negatively on Trump almost 24/7. They have the right to do this. And Trump is either gone in November or in 4 years. He's not sitting there forever plus he's in his 70's - Compared to actual fascist dictator dynasties that remain the same for decades.

    I don't care much for the word fascist, but I don't know a better word.

    How about "President", as thats what Trump is. Except he's not yours or mine. Perhaps its a good idea to take a break from your intake of the CTV/CBC evening news. You have many posts here complaining about American problems.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Sep 14 15:47:12 2020
    On 14 Sep 20 17:47:23, Lee Lofaso said the following to Nick Andre:

    She's still just a nodelist clerk. A lowly nodelist clerk.
    Just like you.

    Alcoholic Swedish troll ignored.

    Nick

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Nick Andre on Mon Sep 14 19:17:38 2020
    Exactly, and I'm not seeing any examples of Trump forcibly suppressing criticism since the AP, CBC, CTV, CNN, MSNBC and almost any other media outlet routinely runs negative stories about him. A fascist dictator would have NONE of that.

    Sure, Trump and Biden are both ctiticized along with any number of others.

    Last I checked, Americans still have their constitution, ability to vote and do things like burn their own flag without being executed for treason. They can also enjoy some neato things like have the freedom to buy guns and ammo, worship whatever deity they believe in and conduct regular elections.

    Indeed. I hope the upcoming election will not be turned into a litigious circus and will not be violent. That may not be the case in Donald Trumps America.

    Seems like the complete opposite of a fascist country, yes?

    I see fascism in Amrica everyday. In an interview with Jeanine Pirro Donald Trump said..

    This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And I will tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be retribution when you have crime like this.

    We do need/want Law & Order but retribution doesn't come into it. Extrajudicial killing is not law and order.

    Whatever you see in the news is petty compared to what really goes on in a
    totalitarian regime. The protestors have the right to protest. They managed to
    convince the media and some politicians that defunding the police is a bright idea hence the prolonged violence and mayhem. The majority of the media reports negatively on Trump almost 24/7. They have the right to do this. And
    Trump is either gone in November or in 4 years. He's not sitting there forever
    plus he's in his 70's - Compared to actual fascist dictator dynasties that remain the same for decades.

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse. That is not on my wish list.

    I don't care much for the word fascist, but I don't know a better word.

    How about "President", as thats what Trump is. Except he's not yours or mine. Perhaps its a good idea to take a break from your intake of the CTV/CBC evening news. You have many posts here complaining about American problems.

    I have said Donald Trump is president many times. We all know this.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 15 09:45:58 2020
    On 15 Sep 20 06:39:56, Alan Ianson said the following to Ib Joe:

    Can you give me some examples of this behavior ??

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are under investigation.

    He's going to be gone either in November or in 4 years.

    He's not your president.

    Nick

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 15 08:54:54 2020
    On 15 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Donald Trump said..

    This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And >> will tell you something, that's the way it has to be. There has to be >> retribution when you have crime like this.

    We do need/want Law & Order but retribution doesn't come into it.
    Extrajudicial killing is not law and order.

    This is a LIE... The person pulled a gun out and pointed it at the Marsh while resisting arrest.

    Trump is speaking of the actions of U.S. Marshals but I am not.

    I am speaking of Trumps words. "There has to be retribution.."


    And there was... What the guy did, to get to the point of US Marshals looking to bring him in was not good. I would have preferred to see him go through
    the process... but if his actions fast tracked that ... so be it...

    What is wrong with retribution?? Leftist mobs are burning down cities... businesses and murdering people. They should hold these people to account.

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 15 09:00:58 2020
    On 15 Sep 2020, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Donald Trump is a small time dictator and things could indeed get worse >> That is not on my wish list.

    Can you give me some examples of this behavior ??

    His meddling with the DOJ and various investigations when he or his friends are under investigation.

    There is no evidence of this...none.

    His firing of inspector generals when they investigate his intersts.

    Which IG was fired??


    His replacement of the post master general with his crony.


    Post Master was replaced to assist in the multi- billion dollar losses it
    makes yearly...

    Listen, you said Trump was s dictator.... look it up... How is he like
    Castro?? or other dictators??

    He's working hard to restore freedoms and give individuals their liberties back.

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Sep 16 16:51:48 2020
    The secret police is a clear one. Trump "invaded" Portland with this secret >> unidentified police when unrest in Portland was slowing down and local
    authorities didn't want outside help. His action didn't help the situation.

    That sounds like a propaganda stunt. This story is nowhere to be found by any reputable news source in the USA.

    Are you living in some sort of bubble or is that simply denial?

    https://youtu.be/5pTqAn5mK-E

    There's violence in Portland every day, whether there are "secret police" out there instigating it or not. They seem to be protesting Trump's presidency. They all have TDS. Many of them will lose their opportunity to vote him out because they are transitioning into felons, which makes them ineligible to vote. By taking themselves off the voting market, they are helping Trump.

    The unrest in Portland predates BLM or the death of George Floyd.

    Trump offered the Democrat mayor Ted Wheeler(D) help from the national
    guard & he refused; so which guy is more of a promoter of violence in Portland?

    Cities and states are responsible for law enforcement in their jusidictions. There are federal resources like the national guard that can be called in if needed. That is available to states at all times and will be deployed quickly when called upon.

    Portland is trying to solve the problem. Going in with a military force and arresting everyone doesn't solve the problem, unless you are a dictator and plan to continue your crackdown.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Sep 16 17:07:06 2020
    How did Andrew Cuomo actually kill his own residents?

    Cuomo made an executive order (Andrew Cuomo + Execute Orders =
    Dictatorship)

    That is not dictatorship, that is a normal thing that all governors do.

    that nursing homes in NY MUST take covid-19 patients whether or
    not they have the capacity to quarantine them. This led to the deaths of more than 6,000 elderly NYers. https://nursinghome411.org/ny-nursinghome-covid-data/

    Are you speaking of the early days of the pandemic?

    Lots of mistakes were made here also when there was little good information about the best way to proceed and hospital spaces in NY were filling up. It was a huge problem.

    And we can't vote this guy out. Trump will be gone - guaranteed - either in
    2020 or 2024. But Andrew Cuomo, the state dictator of NY, can remain in office
    for decades, and there's nothing we can do about that.

    He will? I always thought Governors were elected in the US.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Sep 16 23:02:50 2020
    Oh, c'mon man! Cubans get their meds for free! Everybody knows that!

    I'm not Cuban. I think I'd be scared to trip with you, but I'd definitely have a few drinks with you.

    You see, if we trip together, I might start to see crazy truths about liberals that will frieghten me. But if we drink together, then we will be less inhibited, and we can speak our minds from the darkest depths.

    I think the president and the house democrats need to get drunk together. Like what Winehouse guy? He totally needs to get trucked up a bit more. And Trump? I think he will finally smoke a bong in 2024 while handing the keys to the White House to some Democrat who's ready to give us back to China.

    It's inevitable. But on the bright side, no more suprise viruses (virii) from pissed off China. They will allow us health while we work to pay off the debt that Joe Biden will promise to them.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 18 00:51:14 2020
    On 09-17-20 16:53, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Demagogue Definition <=-


    things so much simpler, even telnet is pass*.

    Is there any daily activity in non-politics echos? I think we are the
    only people using Fido.

    Yes. You can take a look in the STATS echo for reports from various
    people. The FidoGazette also publishes a weekly report of traffic
    volumes.

    Fido should clean out all the dead echos and add a few new ones, to
    keep up with the times better.

    Dead echos are dead, and not a lot of bother -- but I agree with you.
    Question is, how to do that. As to adding new ones, anyone can do
    that. Problem is to get them advertised and to generate traffic.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


    ... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 00:55:07, 18 Sep 2020
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Sep 18 09:58:32 2020
    Donald Trump was POTUS from 2017-2021.
    He will still be addressed after he leaves office as Mr. President.

    The liberal media calls him "Mr. Trump."

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Fri Sep 18 10:14:10 2020
    What countries do you suspect of acting as distribution specialists?

    Just China. I believe they are the distribution specialists who sent infected members of their government to other countries, such as Italy & USA, to dispense the virus.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Fri Sep 18 10:24:06 2020
    His politics from 1989 are similar to his politics today.

    https://youtu.be/Paf8MPhSG08

    Like Trump, I too would like to see the death penalty brought back to more states. We didn't have DNA in 1989, but now we do, and there's never been a better time to plug Old Sparky back in.

    I realize Trump was wrong to be so angry with those arrested for the crime back in 1989, because they turned out to be innocent, but I do share Trump's passion for justice for crime victims.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dale Shipp on Fri Sep 18 10:52:12 2020
    Yes. You can take a look in the STATS echo for reports from various people. The FidoGazette also publishes a weekly report of traffic

    Thanks, I'll check those out.

    Dead echos are dead, and not a lot of bother -- but I agree with you. Question is, how to do that. As to adding new ones, anyone can do
    that. Problem is to get them advertised and to generate traffic.

    I guess this is where the other networks become relevant. But they are all sorta played out too, like each one has a Mystic BBS echo, a General Messages echo, a BBS echo - they are all about as bad as Fido in that regard.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Fri Sep 18 21:53:58 2020
    Hello Nick,

    That's cool, and I didn't know fido was so open to new echos. But the
    futur AT> doesn't look bright for an echo when it's sitting in a bucket
    full of oldie AT> like ham radio, collecting stamps, etc.

    I created a masturbation echo but I was the only one contributing.

    So that is where that leak is coming from ...

    --Lee

    --
    Impossible is nothing

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 18 21:54:08 2020
    Hello Aaron,

    things so much simpler, even telnet is pass*.
    Is there any daily activity
    in non-politics echos? I think we are the only people using Fido.

    There is a little bit of activity in the Fidonews echo.
    And some activity in one of the Cooking echoes. The JamNNTPd
    echo sometimes has some activity. Fidogazette echo is mostly
    just the newsletter, but does have some activity from time
    to time.

    Fido should clean out all the dead echos and add a few new ones, to keep up
    with the times better.

    Which ones are active, and which are not? How does a sysop
    make that determination?

    Look at it this way -

    Each sysop is master of his/her own board.
    He/she can carry whatever echoes of his/her own choice.
    Or not.
    There is no "official list of Fidonet echoes".
    Only echoes that have been created by individuals.
    Aside from the Fidonews.
    Which existed before Time Itself.

    I am master of my own creation.
    Steve Asher handed me the CONSPRCY echo.
    That makes me the "owner" of that echo.
    Sysops are free to list it on their system.
    Or not list it on their system.

    You might decide to create an echo of your own.
    Call it by whatever name you choose to give it.
    Let's call it MONSTER.
    Sysops are free to list it on their system.
    Or not to list it on their system.

    As "owner" of the MONSTER echo, you can
    place restrictions as to who can post, etc.
    But sysops are the masters of all, and get
    to choose if they want to list your echo.
    Or not.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 18 21:54:42 2020
    Hello Aaron,

    The Absinthe House. In New Orleans. Only the good stuff is served
    in that place. Oh, that green liquid is sooooo good! Better than LSD!

    There's a BBS called Absinthe. Is that yours?

    Nope. The place in New Orleans serves the real stuff.
    Straight from France. Was not legal in the USA for decades.
    But those of us here knew where to get it ...

    Too bad the president doesn't drink. He doesn't smoke, either. Talk

    I know he's a weird guy, but his policies are what keep me happy.

    His brother Fred was an airplane pilot. He was alcoholic, and
    a chain smoker. Donald took it very hard when Fred died. Age 46.
    Donald was age 35 at the time.

    Nobody likes his misguided policies. Which is one of the main
    reasons why he will be shown the door come election day.

    --Lee

    --
    Make 7-Up Yours

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Fri Sep 18 14:59:36 2020
    Its not just having the death penalty, its having it actually work as
    a deterrent to crime. Eliminating the lengthly time and legal wranglings to executions would make it more effective like the way it works in Korea.

    You are totally right. Nobody fears the death penalty much the way things are now.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Sep 18 15:27:18 2020
    I am master of my own creation.
    Steve Asher handed me the CONSPRCY echo.
    That makes me the "owner" of that echo.
    Sysops are free to list it on their system.
    Or not list it on their system.

    What about the sysops who have abandoned their echo? There must be some of them. If there are sysops who don't even run their BBS anymore, it would make sense to me to delete their echo, but of course other sysops might feel different and still carry the oldies.

    I can go ahead & scan all the fido echos on this BBS, but there's just so many old messages that I could be replying to people who posted something a decade ago.

    The BBS itself is becoming an old man, and we should all trim those crazy eyebrows off our systems.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Sep 18 15:48:04 2020
    Nobody likes his misguided policies. Which is one of the main
    reasons why he will be shown the door come election day.

    What misguided policy?

    Joe Biden is a guy who abused his power as vice president to get his son a job. Trump has given his sons jobs, as president, without abusing any power. What does that tell you? It's never enough for Democrats.

    Why should Lori Loughlin go to prison? For abusing her wealth to empower her daughters? Joe Biden did that same thing with his power. Joe Biden should either be impeached for violating the oath of office, or he should be arrested for raping Tara Reade. His sentences can run concurrently for all I care. But your party chose a very lousy candidate. And if you get Biden, then congrats, but liberal policy will depend on executive orders from Biden, and too many
    of those are not going to go smoothly with my people. You can also forget about any legislation being passed, but I guess that's nothing new anyway.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 18 18:02:14 2020
    On 18 Sep 20 15:48, Aaron Thomas said the following to Lee Lofaso:

    Why should Lori Loughlin go to prison? For abusing her wealth to empower he daughters? Joe Biden did that same thing with his power. Joe Biden should

    She was hot as aunt Becky... very milfy.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Sep 18 18:04:42 2020
    On 18 Sep 20 15:27, Aaron Thomas said the following to Lee Lofaso:

    What about the sysops who have abandoned their echo? There must be some of them. If there are sysops who don't even run their BBS anymore, it would ma sense to me to delete their echo, but of course other sysops might feel different and still carry the oldies.

    An echo really "can't" be deleted. Once its created on who-knows-how-many systems, its just there.

    The other problem is dead echoes that get monthly moderator posts for
    unknown inexplicable reasons other than wanting a beacon of light on what once-was; or having several Linux and BBS echoes when one would suffice nowadays etc.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Sep 19 21:05:30 2020
    There is no need for the death penalty anywhere in the world.
    Prisons are there to keep bad people locked up and society safe.

    Sometimes prisons aren't there. Ask the crime victims. How many convicted murderers have been relieved of their life sentences due to covid-19? And how many have been relieved due to far-left prison reform?

    Imagine saying this to a crime victim:

    "The man who electrocuted your granny in a homemade electric chair is being relieved of his life-sentence due to the coronavirus. It would be inhumane to let him remain in a prison with such a high covid-19 infection rate. Just don't get close to him. If he tries to electricute you, just kick him in the balls as hard as you can."

    That would make me think my lawmakers need to go.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Sep 23 10:53:38 2020
    Hello Aaron,

    How many convicted murderers have been relieved of their life sentences
    du
    to covid-19?
    Only those who have died.

    This is what happens when you don't watch my news channels.

    A sentence of life without parole means the only way one
    gets out is in a pine box.

    --Lee

    --
    There's no split in Cremo.

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 7 09:43:22 2021

    The chinese are no more responsible for coronavirus than the USA is responsible for H1N1.

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are directly responsible for Covid-19.

    From the pals at Google.com
    Question: Where did COVID-19 come from?

    Answer: An outbreak of pneumonia of unknown etiology in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China was initially reported to WHO on December 31, 2019.
    Chinese authorities identified a novel coronavirus (i.e., SARS-CoV-2), which has now resulted in millions of confirmed human infections globally.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (swine flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Feb 7 16:27:48 2021
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 09:43 am

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are directly responsible for Covid-19.

    The dream is yours. Covid-19 was first found in Wuhan, we all know this. That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (swine flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it was first found and identified in the US.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 7 19:51:00 2021
    Alan Ianson wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 09:43 am

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are directly responsible for Covid-19.

    The dream is yours. Covid-19 was first found in Wuhan, we all know
    this. That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any
    more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (swine flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it was first found and identified in the US.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Luxuriantly hand-crafted from only the finest ASCII.
    --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
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    Oh, GD. You're going to want to apply cold water the that burned area, kid.

    Like... an icebath.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Vague on Sun Feb 7 17:49:24 2021
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Vague to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 07:51 pm

    Oh, GD. You're going to want to apply cold water the that burned area, kid.

    What burned area, man?

    Don't be so vague!

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Captain, he's thinking about my breasts again! - Deanna Troy
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 8 20:42:36 2021
    On 07 Feb 2021, Alan Ianson said the following...

    396/45
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Sun Feb 07 2021 09:43 am

    Alan, you're living in a dream world, of course the Chinese are direc responsible for Covid-19.

    The dream is yours. Covid-19 was first found in Wuhan, we all know this. That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The dream is mine... if this is true, why not ask Dr. Li Wenliang? Opps can't because he's dead at 34 years of age.
    He was the one who sounded early alarm w/covid-19.

    No the United States is not responsible for what was known as H1N1 (s flu) it was from Veracruz, Mexico

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it was first found and identified in the US.

    Wrong H1N1 was discovered in Veracruz, Mexico.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Feb 8 19:44:40 2021
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gregory Deyss to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 08 2021 08:42 pm

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it
    was first found and identified in the US.

    Wrong H1N1 was discovered in Veracruz, Mexico.

    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 8 07:05:56 2021
    Am 07 Feb 21 16:27:48 schrob Alan Ianson an Gregory Deyss zum Thema
    <Re: Demagogue Definition>

    That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The Spanish Flu most likely originated in Haskell County, Kansas. The Spanish were the only ones to research it, while everyone else was busy figthing WWI.



    Tschoe mit Oe
    Gerhard
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Feb 9 17:26:34 2021
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gerhard Strangar to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 08 2021 07:05 am

    That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more
    than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The Spanish Flu most likely originated in Haskell County, Kansas. The Spanish were the only ones to research it, while everyone else was busy figthing WWI.

    My understanding is that in those times Spain had a healthy free press and were publishing good and accurate stories regarding the pandemic.

    I don't know where the Spanish flu originates but it was not Spain.

    This idea that "the Chinese are directly responsible" for the coronavirus comes from places like the epoch times, it's fake news.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... 75%, no, 72% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Alan Ianson on Tue Feb 9 18:06:50 2021
    Am 08 Feb 21 19:44:40 schrob Alan Ianson an Gregory Deyss zum Thema
    <Re: Demagogue Definition>

    You are right, the US is not responsible for H1N1, just because it
    was first found and identified in the US.
    Wrong H1N1 was discovered in Veracruz, Mexico.
    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Are you talking about H1N1-09? Because the Spanish Flu was H1N1 as well.



    Tschoe mit Oe
    Gerhard
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Feb 9 21:59:04 2021
    Re: Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Gerhard Strangar to Alan Ianson on Tue Feb 09 2021 06:06 pm

    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Are you talking about H1N1-09? Because the Spanish Flu was H1N1 as well.

    No, I am talking about the 2009 pandemic, Swine Flu I think it is referred to as and is also an H1N1 flu.

    I have little knowledge of the Spanish Flu.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 13:23:22 2021
    Hello Alan,

    That does not make the Chinese directly responsible for it any more >AI>>than Spain was responsible for the spanish flu.

    The Spanish Flu most likely originated in Haskell County, Kansas. The >GS>Spanish were the only ones to research it, while everyone else was busy >GS>figthing WWI.

    My understanding is that in those times Spain had a healthy free press and
    were publishing good and accurate stories regarding the pandemic.

    Nobody knows for certain where the Spanish Flu originated. The idea
    of the virus having originated in Kansas was due to US military having
    a base there where troops were trained to fight in Europe. But that is
    a very weak theory, as most troops were transported by ship rather than
    by air in those days.

    Over half of the world's population lives in SE Asia, from India,
    China, Indochina, Japan. On the other side of the ocean is the USA,
    with California being the home of many Asians, especially Chinese
    and others from SE Asia.

    I don't know where the Spanish flu originates but it was not Spain.

    It was introduced in Spain by soldiers who fought in WWI. And/or by
    those who cared for soldiers who were infected.

    This idea that "the Chinese are directly responsible" for the coronavirus
    comes from places like the epoch times, it's fake news.

    The novel coronavirus may have been latent for decades, with it
    suddenly transforming into a pandemic no country could stop. It is
    known that others had the virus before it was detected in Wuhan.
    Could easily have originated in Laos. Or Vietnam. Or India. Or a
    number of other places other than China.

    As for the epoch times, do keep in mind the writers of that online
    publication are very gifted, and could possibly be the best in the
    entire universe. So please do give them credit.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 13:23:28 2021
    Hello Alan,

    You are right, today we know it originated there.

    Are you talking about H1N1-09? Because the Spanish Flu was H1N1 as well.

    No, I am talking about the 2009 pandemic, Swine Flu I think it is referred
    to as and is also an H1N1 flu.

    I have little knowledge of the Spanish Flu.

    Are you really that old? The Spanish Flu happened in 1918.
    That would make you ... really old.
    Possibly the oldest sysop in Fidonet.

    "May you live long, and prosper." ~Mr Spock

    --Lee

    --
    Lovin' beats hatin'.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 13 04:06:48 2021
    Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Lee Lofaso to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 2021 01:23 pm

    This idea that "the Chinese are directly responsible" for the
    coronavirus comes from places like the epoch times, it's fake news.

    As for the epoch times, do keep in mind the writers of that online publication are very gifted, and could possibly be the best in the
    entire universe. So please do give them credit.

    Yep, I gave them their due credit, it's right up above there.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... It's hard to be serious when you're naked.
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 13 04:09:22 2021
    Re: Demagogue Definition
    By: Lee Lofaso to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 2021 01:23 pm

    I have little knowledge of the Spanish Flu.

    Are you really that old? The Spanish Flu happened in 1918.

    Yes, that is why I have little knowledge of it.

    That would make you ... really old.

    I have some years to go before retirement!

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Everybody should believe in something - I believe I'll have a beer
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