Hello Dennis,

Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.

"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong,
but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an >LL>armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020

Do you want Trump to use a stronger police force then?

I want Trump to do his fucking job!

"The job of a president is to tell it straight from the shoulder, tell
the truth, to be candid, to face facts, to lead, not to insight. That’s
why I’m speaking to you today. The incumbant president is incapable of telling us the truth, incapable of facing the facts and incapable of
healing. He doesn’t want to shed light, he wants to generate heat and
he’s stroking violence in our cities.

"This is a tragic fact of the matter, how he’s dealing with this
perilous hour in our nation. And now we have to stand against violence
in every form it takes. Violence we’ve seen again and again and again,
of unwarranted police shooting, excessive force, seven bullets in the
back of Jacob Blake. Knee on the neck of George Floyd, killing of
Breonna Taylor in her own apartment, violence of extremists and
opportunists, right wing militias… And to derail any hope and support
for progress, the senseless violence of looting and burning and
destruction of property. I want to make it absolutely clear, so I’m
going to be very clear about all of this, rioting is not protesting.
Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of
this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who
do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will
only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way. It divides instead
of unites, destroys businesses, only hurts the working families that
serve the community. It makes things worse across the board, not
better."
~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020

If Trump was to come down harder on the rioters, then the Democrats would
say he's a fascist for doing so. Is he supposed to just people people
riot, loot, murder and bully innocent people?

Joe Biden has condemned *all* acts of violence. It is time for
Donald Trump to do the same.

His "supporters" are defending themselves.

Two rights do not make a wrong. As Joe Biden noted so clearly
in his message. Do pay attention.

I've seen too many videos of "protestors" attacking and accosting people.
Going up to people who are just out for a meal or a drink, and DEMANDING
they show fealty to your beliefs is not acceptable.

Worked for Bull Connor. And his dogs. What we have today is a
new George Wallace. Only this one is in the White HOuse, rather
than the Alabama governor's mansion.

--Lee

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On 09-04-20 12:02, Dennis Katsonis <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Weakling <=-

As is his right to do so. But everyone is "against
violence". So is Trump.

Except that Trump has done a lot to incite and encourage violence. Why
is that?

Dale Shipp
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Dale Shipp wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

On 09-04-20 12:02, Dennis Katsonis <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Weakling <=-

As is his right to do so. But everyone is "against
violence". So is Trump.

Except that Trump has done a lot to incite and encourage violence. Why
is that?

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)

The people responsible for violence are those arguing that minor social faux pas, and other trival facts are actually evidence of major structural problems and oppression. This gives people licence to riot, to cancel people.


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I mean, seriously, you are posting here, under your REAL name, calling Trum leader of a death cult, a fascist, that he needs to go, and are free to do without consequence. AS IS EVERYONE ELSE. If you really WERE living under fascist regime, you would dissapear, or suddenly find yourself imposed upon be threatened, or your family threatened, or as happened in Communist Russi if you were lucky, only moved to a crapper job or lost your residence. Non that is happening. It is ONLY the Cancel Culture mob doing that. For that reason, I call BS on your claim.

Awesome! Clearly thought out & well said. People in the USA are spoiled and derranged. If you're ever buying a gift for an American, make sure it's PERFECT because if not they will cry about minor details :)

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Alan Ianson wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

You guys are worked up over very little and seem to be overreacting. He's boorish, but not a disaster.

Donald Trump's administration is a disaster.

I keep in touch with a few people in the USA, and none of them have noted

any

new fascistic laws or impositions from the government.

There is a new secret police working in the USA today. They do not identify themselves and simply wisk poeple away. This is fascistic and against American law and the constitution.

Donald Trump claims that crime/murder rates in cities where these
police have been deployed has been lowered but like so much of what
Donald Trump says the facts tell a different story.

I've heard about vans whisking people away, but not much more than rumours. I've heard a lot of rumours, about Trump supposedly removing mailboxes, which turned out not to be what is claimed.

Who has dissappeared?

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We're voting for Trump policy.

Trumpers are not voting for Trump due to whatever "policy" he has,
as he has no policy.

How could you actually know what a Trump supporter is voting for? I couldn't tell you what Biden voters are voting for unless you count vagueness.

I think Joe's gonna lose the debates, just like Hillary did, for the same reason as Hillary (vagueness.)

There comes a time when you need to stop supporting dying candidates; they are just being parasites to you, while you should be focusing on finding other elections that are more winnable.

You must have congress members up for election this year - tell us about them. Do they have any good policy proposals? Are they reaslistic? Are you more comfortable with your Democratic candidate(s) or your Republican one(s)?

Trump's reign can only last 4 more years - that's nothing. Try living with a horrible governor for like mine for 9 years already. Nothing I can do about that. King Cuomo is the crusty old piece of toilet paper that won't fall off, but instead of cry about it, I focus on positive things; my district's US Rep candidate is doing a better job in her campaign this year - so I'm sorta pleased with her even though she sucks.

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I don't know or think anyone has dissapeared. Being a new and secret police not much is known about them currently.

That sounds like science fiction. Which news station is pushing that garbage story?

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Hello Aaron,

I mean, seriously, you are posting here ... For that reason, DK>I call BS

on your claim.

Awesome! Clearly thought out & well said. People in the USA are spoiled and
derranged. If you're ever buying a gift for an American, make sure it's PERFECT because if not they will cry about minor details :)

Perfect gift?

Here's to you. Made of pure, unadulterated, bull sh*t.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CE18B3Vjur3/




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Perfect gift?

Here's to you. Made of pure, unadulterated, bull sh*t.

Come on Lee, I'm eating my breakfast!! :(

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There is a new secret police working in the USA today.

Yes. It's called Antifa and it's a branch of the Democrat party.

There are real problems in America today but antifa isn't it. It has been investigated by the FBI at least and no charges laid. Antifa is little more than an anti fascist ideaology.

They do not identify themselves and simply wisk poeple away.

This is Leftie Narrative. The facts say those people had clear law enforcement markings. The cars may not have been marked, but unmarked
police cars have been around for a long, long time.

They do not identify themselves as police and even if you ask them they give you no identification or badge number. They look more like heavily armed military than police.

This is fascistic and against American law and the constitution.

Yes, it is. And if you vote Democrat, you are voting for the people who
are facists (actually look up the meaning of "facism" before using it)
and who are against law and the Constitution.

Antifa has no place within the Democrat party. Fascism is exactly what is happening in the US today under Donald Trump. I wouldn't call it Democrat or Rupublican but it has found a place in Donald Trumps America.

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Hello Aaron,

Perfect gift?

Here's to you. Made of pure, unadulterated, bull sh*t.

Come on Lee, I'm eating my breakfast!! :(

I did not sculpt it. So please. Don't blame me. :)

--Lee

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Please educate yourself, I don't expect you or anyone else to take my word >> anything.

I have studied, on both conservative and liberal sites since 2016, and am not seeing any evidence of fascism you speak of...

Try 2020?

Why do you bring up deplorable types?

Study Hillary Clinton soundbites, maybe obtain exerpts from her book and you are echoing her exact words, right down to "Trump's America".

I see.

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On 09 Sep 20 17:01:40, Alan Ianson said the following to Nick Andre:

I have studied, on both conservative and liberal sites since 2016, and am not seeing any evidence of fascism you speak of...

Try 2020?

Uhh, I have been. Seems to be plenty of leftist whining and silly riots, but not fascism.

Nick

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On 10 Sep 20 01:47, Aaron Thomas said the following to Alan Ianson:

All the negative Trump coverage seems really fake to me. I still haven't he anyone tell me a single thing that Trump has done wrong. They say stuff, bu just don't see any of it as wrong.

I too, am waiting for this and anxiously waiting for proof of the so-called "fascism in Trump's America" that is verifiable undeniable proof and not just some usual leftist whinefest.

Nick

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

Hello Dennis,

[..]

Steve Schmidt is a former Republican, having left the party in 2018.
He is the person who ran John McCain's campaign for president in 2008.
Today he is an Independent, as many other Republicans have also left
the party. I am not affiliated with any political party, and choose
to remain so.

Well there you go, someone who thought McCain would be a good president!

He seemed to me the kind of guy to start a war.

There is absolutely no doubt he would have been a far better president than what we have sitting in the White House today.

Would you in 10 years time, old highly the opinion of someone who ran Trumps
campaign?

Which one? Two of them went to jail, and the third one quit and
is awaiting trial.

He's changed his views maybe, I don't know.

Steve Schmidt is the same Steve Schmidt he has always been.

I don't really care, its one opinion and I don't know what his motives are.

One of his motives is to get rid of Trump.

If we are talking of a politician here, the motives are likely self-serving.

Trump is a politician. Schmidt is not.

Up until 2016, when the Democratic party thought that Hillary would be a
good president, I would have (if I was a US citizen) not wanted to vote
Republican.

Although some Democrats did vote for Trump in 2016, many of those
same Democrats regret having done so. Will they vote for Biden? Or
will they choose not to vote at all? That is the question.

As for Republicans, their Republican Party no longer exists. Today
it has become nothing more than a polite fiction. What Republicans are
voting for is dictatorship under Trump & Co.

I agree it has changed dramatically. I can't see the dictatorship though.

Authoritarianism = Dictatorship

You know, here in Melbourne, Australia, we are subject to curfews and the
harshest lockdown.

The governors of several states in the USA, including Louisiana,
issued mandatory curfews and harsh lockdowns as the pandemic is a
public health issue.

I note the current governer of Louisiana is a Democrat. I have my doubts that broad lockdowns are the most effective solution. It has failed in Victoria. The problem is, casting your net too broad means you miss focusing on the areas where you need to focus.

I can't go out for a walk at night, alone, but somehow, a hotel where infected people where quarantined couldn't keep people from walking around to the shops becuase they simply though contractor security guards would do.

We don't have constitutional freedom of speech, or the same right to bear
arms.

Australians have similar rights. Not the same, but similar.

No, we don't. Australia has no constituational right to free speech. Have a look at the UK, where people are ARRESTED simply for a tweet. The state is able to make laws limiting speech. The one thing it cant do, is speech directly related to a political campaign.

People go on and on about this fascistic dictatorship, but I can't see what
rights and freedoms you have actually LOST.

The thing about fascism is one never notices until it hits you
in the face. Look at fascism as a form of weakened democracy.
Once a democracy has been weakened to the point where it no longer matters, it is no longer a democracy but something else. And we
all know that power cannot exist in a vacuum.

What freedom has Trump taken from you that you had under Obama?

Where's the check? With no check, Trump can in effect rule by decree.

The only thing I see is that you are less free to hold an opinion which
contradicts orthodoxy, but I don't see Trump destroying the lives of people
who hold these opinions, but others. I see Big Tech censorship, companies firing people, cancel culture, things which affect the population at large.
Please enlightenment how Trump is limiting your movement speech or action?

Earlier this year, by presidential proclamation, Trump told the world
who could, and could not, travel to the USA. He did not need approval
from anybody else. Not his cabinet. Not the Congress. Not the American people. Not the UN. He acted on his own.

Australia did that too. In fact, we can't travel between states. I cannot travel more than 5km from home, except for work, or even LEAVE MY HOUSE after 8PM.

The reason Trump did this? COVID. Just before, you were talking about a public health crisis in response to my comment about curfew, now you are charging Trump with closing borders to people coming in.

If that makes Trump a fascist, what does it make my state Premier, who's impositions are much, much harsher?

Those presidential proclamations remain in effect today. Unchallenged.

So yes, my Australian friend. Trump is very much limiting your movement speech or action. In every which way he wants and can.

As are most government, often to a greater degree. Does that make then Fascist too?

By the way, that is limiting FOREIGNERS coming in. Not you.

I'm not a US citizen, but I'm just saying, that if I was in the US, I
couldn't have voted for the party of McCain or Romney, and I would have
preferred to see them lose.

You got your wish in 2008, when Barack Obama won.
And again in 2012, when Barack Obama did it a second time.

I didn't wish for Obama to win, as I'm not a US citizen it doesn't affect me
to greatly. Also, not wanting one candidate to win doesn't mean you wish the
other would. If I was a voter, I would have preferred a candidate who is a
cross between Nader and Buchanan, perhaps more Nader than Buchanan. But
McCain was in my mind unfit and dangerous.

Steve Schmidt was McCain's campaign manager in 2008. Schmidt is a political consultant, John McCain his client at the time. Sometimes
your client wins, sometimes not. It is the nature of the game.

The Republican party doesn't represent the interests of working Americans,
it hasn't for a long time.

Republicans holding office represent the interests of Donald Trump,
not the interests of the American people.

Both parties act in a self-serving manner.

One more time. The Republican Party exists no more as a viable
political party. It has been taken over by Donald Trump.

Pooh to them I say!

And those who continue to support them.

Must be desperate if we are referring to the opinions of Republican party
hacks now.

Steve Schmidt is not a Republican. After he left the party, he
decided to have some fun, founding The Lincoln Project.

Republican party hacks hate him for that. So does Donald Trump.

What is Trumpism anyway?

A death cult.

You guys are worked up over very little and seem to be overreacting. He's
boorish, but not a disaster. I keep in touch with a few people in the USA,
and none of them have noted any new fascistic laws or impositions from the
government.

Nobody objected when Adolf Hitler did the same thing in Germany.
Until it was too late. That is the problem with fascism. Nobody
notices what it is until it is too late. Weakened democracy. That
is my definition of fascism. What is yours?

Here is my prediction. Trump will not implement a Hitlerian fascism.

I'm willing to bet money on it. In fact, I think he will win the election.

There isn't a president, or Liberal Prime Minister here, who hasn't been compared to Hitler. It's so, so tiresome. It's just a dumb comparison.

You should relax.

If you are worried about the next Hitler, maybe look accross the Pacific.

I mean, seriously, you are posting here, under your REAL name, calling Trump
a leader of a death cult, a fascist, that he needs to go, and are free to
do so without consequence.

One more time. I said Trump is the symptom. Not the disease.
Do keep up.

Then attack the disease, not Trump.

AS IS EVERYONE ELSE.

Hitler asked the world to take in Germany's Jews. The world refused.
So Hitler sent the Jews to work camps. So they could all make money for the Reich. Unfortunately, they did not work hard enough to enjoy their long-deserved reward ...

If you really WERE living under a fascist regime, you would dissapear, or
suddenly find yourself imposed upon, or be threatened, or your family threatened, or as happened in Communist Russia, if you were lucky, only moved to a crapper job or lost your residence.

Oh, come now. Everybody knows Hitler hated Commies. And Jews.
And gays. And blacks. And just about everybody else who wasn't
German or Aryan. Especially those who were mental. No telling
what he did with those who were mental ...

None of that is happening. It is ONLY the Cancel Culture mob doing that.
For that reason, I call BS on your claim.

Hitler never conceded. Had to be forced out of office. By an
invasion of Russkies. But he made sure no secrets would be spilled.
First thing he did was to off his beloved German Shepherd "Blondie"
with a pill. Then give his girlfriend a shot. Next step on board
a Geman U-boat headed straight for South America.

Some claim he is still alive and well.

Get a grip.

Who is still alive? Hitler?

Well, you never know. Germans did have very good doctors ...

--Lee

I think you have more important things to worry about. Yes, Trump is the symptom, but he is in the end, a historical footnote. The fuss against Trump, and the social chaos that people are creating, will leave a longer and larger legacy, than anything that Trump himself actually did.


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Alan Ianson wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

I've heard about vans whisking people away, but not much more than rumours.

It's not a rumour, I have seen video of these police doing this.

I've seen videos of police putting people in vans too. It's quite common during arrests.

I've heard a lot of rumours, about Trump supposedly removing mailboxes,

which

turned out not to be what is claimed.

The USPS under Donald Trumps newly installed crony has removed sorting machines and and stopped overtime and these actions have resulted in a slowdown of postal service. Many in the US get their prescriptions by
mail and they have not been getting them delivered on time.

Mailboxes have been removed because it is said they are no longed
needed.

Who has dissappeared?

I don't know or think anyone has dissapeared. Being a new and secret police not much is known about them currently.

Well there you go...

No one has dissappeared. So what happened to them? Just the usual process? If that is the case, so what?

What is the world coming too when you can't arrest violent rioters...

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Alan Ianson wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

It's not a rumour, I have seen video of these police doing this.

I've seen videos of police putting people in vans too. It's quite common during arrests.

Yes, that is the norm. What's happening today with the secret police is not normal.

No one has dissappeared.

I never said anyone dissapeared.

So what happened to them? Just the usual process?

Most likely.

What is the world coming too when you can't arrest violent rioters...

Police can and should arrest rioters. There is no need for secret
police to arrest rioters.

This video shows my concern around police and secret police actions
today.

https://youtu.be/AzE3RZrnAkk

If they were Antifa, then we are dealing with terrorists.

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In spite of that he is very popular, much like a WWE star.

LOL! Quoting Youtube? Whats next, the oracle wisdom of Wikipedia?

Been watching youtube too eh?

Calm down, he's not your president.

I'm cool. If the good folks in the US want some more Donald they are welcome to it.

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On 11 Sep 20 07:25:38, Alan Ianson said the following to Nick Andre:

LOL! Quoting Youtube? Whats next, the oracle wisdom of Wikipedia?

Been watching youtube too eh?

No thanks. Almost never indulge except for obscure classic TV shows or music.

Nick

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On 11 Sep 20 11:10, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

Now that salon owner is being alienated by her community for opposition to Nancy's behavior. You don't want to party with Nancy; she gets high on powe and that's gonna leave a horrible hangover.

We know that she has high-end fridges and premium ice cream...

Trump has a sexy white house spokeswoman who I'm not ready to say goodbye t I like seeing her in the press briefings! She's a lot easier to look at tha Joe Biden's spokesman. Maybe Justin Trudeau should be someone's spokesman :

Trump *usually* picks hot women. But banging Ivana? Ewww, no thanks.

Nick

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Hello Aaron,

[..]

If anyone could show me video or audio footage of Trump bulldozing
skeletons, or cheerleading for the Viet Cong, then I'll vote Biden.

How about Air Force One arriving in Freeland, Michigan for a Trump
pep rally as "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival is
being played. Does that count? You do realize what that song is all
about? Rich kids avoiding the draft on Vietnam. Just like Trump
did (five times).

There you go. #1 cheerleader for the Viet Cong. Donald J. Trump.

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And this video is 100% Steven Hawking - Trump's not even in it. It doesn't matter how you calculate the issue of "demagoguery."

I was only saying that Donald's Demagoguery was nothing new.

But I disagree with you there, because this is Donald's first time demagoging. He's not a career politician, he's a business tycoon. The only thing he has to gain in being our president, is his pride in doing what he feels is right for the American people.

Joe Biden was part of a very mismanaged White House cabinet. To switch Joe with the guy who has done everything to help guys like me, and our families, is an uncomfortable thought.

If you don't like Trump, and it sounds like you don't, then you should at least have some understanding that the majority of the USA is NOT happy about the prospect of a Joe Biden administration. If we had to replace Trump with a Democrat, it shouldn't be a member of a failed administration's cabinet. We had 2 military war veterans in the Democratic primary, and it seems like the flaky left here in the states chose the black race over reason. Even before he announced "Kamala," this was the guy from the black guy's administration, so how does that sound in vote marketing? The DNC wouldn't let an advantage like that slip by.

Imagine all the photos that Joe Biden has of him with the Obamas. Is that gonna trick the ancestors of slaves into voting Democrat or what?

White millionaire career politician shows up at black guy's funeral? What? Was Barack Obama's VP? What!? Legalize prostitution? What!?

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How about Air Force One arriving in Freeland, Michigan for a Trump
pep rally as "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival is

You're using too much imagination. Trump's not gonna promote draft dodging. It looks like a campagin management error to me though. There's no reason why he shouldn't be using music from Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, or Phil Sousan (Trump supporters.)

Thank you Lee, for pointing out the biggest mistake of Trump's campagin: Using the wrong music. Let's see if Kellyanne can do better this time!

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On 11 Sep 20 23:33, Aaron Thomas said the following to Lee Lofaso:

You're using too much imagination. Trump's not gonna promote draft dodging. looks like a campagin management error to me though. There's no reason why shouldn't be using music from Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, or Phil Sousan (Trump supporters.)

Ted Nugent, yes. Kid Rock? Meehhhhhhhhhhh.

Nick

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No, this woman's name is Kayleigh McEnany. She is the "White House Spokeswoman." She's hot, and a great spokeswoman. The media probably hates her, but I'll bet the media photography personnel don't wanna see her go! :)

She's hard to hear, she lies just like her boss and previous WH press secretaries.

She is easy to look at though, I'll give her that.

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But I disagree with you there, because this is Donald's first time demagoging. >He's not a career politician, he's a business tycoon. The only thing he has to
gain in being our president, is his pride in doing what he feels is right for the American people.

Donald was always a demogogue. He's the first demogogue in the White House that I can recall.

Joe Biden was part of a very mismanaged White House cabinet. To switch Joe with the guy who has done everything to help guys like me, and our families, is an uncomfortable thought.

Obama and Biden did pretty well in the White House. Donald Trump does not care about you or your family.

If you don't like Trump, and it sounds like you don't,

Actually I like Trump. He has given me a belly laugh or five over the Years.

Your Fired! That's great.

But I think Donald Trump is way out of his element in the White House. I'd prefer Donald go to Mar-a-Logo and do whatever it is he does.

then you should at least have some understanding that the majority of the
USA is NOT happy about the prospect of a Joe Biden administration.

Is that so? In two short months the people will go to the polls and make a decision about who they want to be president.

I hope that won't be messy, it doesn't need to be but things tend to get messy around Donald Trump.

If we had to replace Trump with a Democrat, it shouldn't be a member of a failed administration's cabinet.

What was the failure of the Obama/Biden administration?

We had 2 military war veterans in the Democratic primary, and it seems like the flaky left here in the states chose the black race over reason. Even before he announced "Kamala," this was the guy from the black guy's administration, so how does that sound in vote marketing? The DNC wouldn't let an advantage like that slip by.

Biden had to choose someone and ultimately he choose Kamala. Could be any number of reasons why. I think Kamala is a good choice. She did good things for ordinary Americans back in the housing crunch. Back in those days the Obama administration put laws in place so that wouldn't happen again. Trump has since taken those laws down so it could indeed happen again.

Imagine all the photos that Joe Biden has of him with the Obamas. Is that gonna trick the ancestors of slaves into voting Democrat or what?

Joe Biden has a good standing in history. Every American, black, white or otherwise has the freedom to vote as they choose/will.

White millionaire career politician shows up at black guy's funeral? What?

You're beeing silly.

Was Barack Obama's VP? What!? Legalize prostitution? What!?

Law enforcement in Canada does not spend a lot of resources on prostitution, as long as no one is being hurt.

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Hello Aaron,

How about Air Force One arriving in Freeland, Michigan for a Trump
pep rally as "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival is

You're using too much imagination. Trump's not gonna promote draft dodging.

If anyone could show me video or audio footage of Trump bulldozing
skeletons, or cheerleading for the Viet Cong, then I'll vote Biden.

Your own words. Time for you to own up to them.
Read the lyrics of the song.
Or get stoned while listening to the music.
It's all the same.
Rich boys cheerleading for the Viet Cong.

It looks like a campagin management error to me though. There's no reason
why he shouldn't be using music from Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, or Phil Sousan (Trump supporters.)

No excuses. You said you would vote for Biden if Trump did something
really bonehead stupid like "cheerleading for the Viet Cong". Time for
you to own up.

Thank you Lee, for pointing out the biggest mistake of Trump's campagin:
Using the wrong music. Let's see if Kellyanne can do better this time!

First of all, Kellyanne is no longer part of the Trump campaign.
But no matter. Trump is responsible for everything his campaign does.
He has not apologized for his choice of music. Therefore, your claim
is bogus.

Time to own up.

--Lee

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Hello Aaron,

Your own words. Time for you to own up to them.
Read the lyrics of the song.

I don't listen to song lyrics. I hate Creedence Clearwater. I liked them
when I was a kid, but I don't give a crap about song syrics.

When I was a kid, me and all the other kids my age learned all the
lyrics to every song. We probably knew them better than the musicians themselves.

No excuses. You said you would vote for Biden if Trump did something >LL>really bonehead stupid like "cheerleading for the Viet Cong". Time for >LL>you to own up.

He wasn't supporting Viet Cong. John Fogerty can kiss it.

"I wrote the song back in 1969 at the height of the Vietnam War.
By the time I wrote the song, I had already been drafted and had
served in the military. And I've been a livelong supporter of our
guys and gals in the military, probably because of that experience."
~ John Fogerty

Fogerty went on to say he wrote the song, in part, because he was
"upset" about how rich people with privilege and money would avoid
the draft.

IOW, John Fogerty is a True American Patriot.

Quite unlike the assclown who occupies the WH today.
Five deferments, including one for bone spurs, to avoid
serving in Vietnam.

GWB did the same thing, using his connections with the wealthy to
get a coveted slot with the Texas Air National Guard as a way to avoid
service in Vietnam. And then went AWOL early so he could get his teeth
cleaned in Alabama.

He has not apologized for his choice of music. Therefore, your claim
is bogus.

I don't recognize any bogus claim made by me in recent days.

I quoted your exact words. But that's okay. You don't want to
own up to it. Just like your golden boy.

--Lee

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IOW, John Fogerty is a True American Patriot.

I guess he must be a Republican then. :)

Quite unlike the assclown who occupies the WH today.
Five deferments, including one for bone spurs, to avoid

Bone spurs are painful. I had them. The only medicine for them is cortisone shots, and cortisone shots hurt like hell too.

Do you want a private who sits down on the job? Or do you want a private who is in so much pain from standing, that he can't focus on his task?

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Hello Aaron,

IOW, John Fogerty is a True American Patriot.

I guess he must be a Republican then. :)

I have absolutely no idea what his party affiliation might be,
or if he ever was affiliated with any party.

Quite unlike the assclown who occupies the WH today.
Five deferments, including one for bone spurs, to avoid

Bone spurs are painful. I had them. The only medicine for them is cortisone
shots, and cortisone shots hurt like hell too.

Donald Trump used any excuse he could find in order to avoid military
service in Vietnam. I am sure his daddy helped him in that regard.
Had nothing to do with his ability to serve. Everything to do with
his being a chicken-shit bastard who refused to serve his country.

Do you want a private who sits down on the job?

Donald Trump never bothered taking a physical. That's what happens
when you get a deferment. The military cannot give you a physical to
see if you can cut the mustard. Donald Trump went doctor shopping.
Found a doctor who would tell the military he could not serve. I am
sure his daddy paid for the doctor visit.

Or do you want a private who is in so much pain from standing, that he can't
focus on his task?

Donald Trump has never had surgery on his feet. He seems to be
doing fine standing on his feet during all those Trump rallies.

Donald "Bone Spur Cadet" Trump. A most fitting name.

--Lee

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Alan Ianson wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

The only people who claim that there are "secret police" that have unmarked cars (something that police have used for decades), that show no badges
and do not identify themselves have been the radical lefties who steadfastly refuse to provide any evidence.

This is well known and in the public domain. Look at it and understand
it if you care too.

In some countries they will even take control by force.

Like Anfifa does for the Democrat party.

Antifa (whatever that means to you) will never take control of any
thing.

They bring weapons to protests and attack people for political purposes.

There is more evidence of Antifa's violence than there is of people
being dissappered by Trump.

I hope the USA doesn't resemble that after the election. It shouldn't,
the USA has been holding free and fair elections for as long as I can
remember.

The Democrats are trying their hardest to change that - or at the very least tarnish the image that the election is fair.

It is only Trump who has put forward this idea of "I can only loose if
the election is rigged". The truth is he can only loose if the people
vote otherwise.

With Facebook and Twitter now censoring news to protect Biden, I'm
guessing you are right. You can however, do a lot to control the voter
and the information they receive.



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With Facebook and Twitter now censoring news to protect Biden, I'm
guessing you are right. You can however, do a lot to control the voter
and the information they receive.

This short clip will give you the highlights of the New York Post article you mention.

https://youtu.be/xLTV_3leKNU

I'm sure you can find the original at https://nypost.com

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Alan Ianson wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

Antifa (whatever that means to you) will never take control of any
thing.

Well, duh! They are a bunch of LARPers who don't understand what they aren't playing a game.

What they can do is scare and harass people.

It is only Trump who has put forward this idea of "I can only loose if
the election is rigged". The truth is he can only loose if the people
vote otherwise.

Lefties always project.


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It is only Trump who has put forward this idea of "I can only loose if
the election is rigged". The truth is he can only loose if the people
vote otherwise.

Lefties always project.

No projection. That is what Trump said and is doing with the help of his enablers.

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No projection. That is what Trump said and is doing with the help of his enablers.

We are extremely satisfied with Trump after having been somewhat or completely displeased with past administrations for decades. It's only psychic parasites trying to inflict people with TDS who can disagree with the changes Trump
has made to our economic & world-political systems.

If Obama was still president during covid-19, an extremely weak federal response would be expected. Luckily, we had a strong one, especially in my region.

I'll enable this Trump stuff. A strong economy for my kids and grandkids to enjoy, less crime, stronger military, stronger border, I appreciate this stuff. Trump is obviously sharing his talents with us. Democrats hate it, because they are the tyrants.

I swear dude, Trump is a prophecy. "The Last President." The people who are against Trump are just like the jews who nailed Jesus up. Let's plan on forgiving the Democrats for any terrible stuff they might do if they get the chance, but let's also be vigilant.

Believe me when I tell you that you DON'T want a lousy neighbor to the
south. We are lucky now that we have such a generous president in Mexico, but some of the guys they had before were terrible. Nieto didn't do jack to fight crime. Obrador seems to keep it real and has turned Mexico into a way better neighbor. You need a guy like Obrador for prime minister. Someone who will just like bend over and let Trump do what he wants.

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I'll enable this Trump stuff.

When I speak of Trump and his enablers I am not speaking of you or his supporters.

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Hello Aaron,

What about the rights of the victim? Why should the victim
be forced to bring to term what a rapist did?

Democrats don't care about victims. If they did, they'd complain for the
rights of the unborn.

Kamala Harris is a former prosecutor. I am sure she has prosecuted
her fair share of rapists during her tenure as DA, and as state AG
made sure prosecutors throughout her state also did the same.
Putting rapists in prison so they can no longer harm others is
what every prosecutor should do, regardless of political affiliation.

Just because some women are impregnated from rape, that does not mean all of
them are. How about a police report first? And how about reparations for
men who unwillingly lost their child to some skank?

A victim might not be able to file a police report. Could be a child
who is dependent on the rapist for survival. A crime committed is still
a crime, even if no police report is or has been filed.

--Lee

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Hello Aaron,

What about the rights of the victim? Why should the victim
be forced to bring to term what a rapist did?

Democrats don't care about victims. If they did, they'd complain for the
rights of the unborn.

Just because some women are impregnated from rape, that does not mean all of
them are. How about a police report first? And how about reparations for
men who unwillingly lost their child to some skank?

Is rape okay but not incest? Is incest okay but not rape? Is both rape
and incest okay? What about those in mental institutions? And those in
juvenile centers? What about shrinks who decide to have some fun with
their patients? I know a woman who has three children, each child by
a different personality. Every time she was holed up at a mental
institution, she got preggers by a shrink. Wasn't really her fault ...

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

Just because some women are impregnated from rape, that does not AT>mean

all them are. How about a police report first? And how about AT>reparations for me who unwillingly lost their child to some skank?

The "rape and incest" argument from the pro-choice crowd is so laughingly
inaccurate and the last resort when out of logical arguments. They would
have you believe its such a pandemic and why the need for an abortion
clinic made available on every street corner.

Let's see what the rest of the world thinks -

https://reproductiverights.org/law-and-policy-guide-rape-and-incest


Wow. Such "laughingly inaccurate" information. For all to read.
And that is just the part on rape and incest.

--Lee

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Re: Weakling
By: TIM RICHARDSON to ALAN IANSON on Sat Nov 14 2020 05:10 pm

If her physical/emotional side was what influenced her to not take precautions to aviod an unwanted pregnancy, what makes anyone think she has the emotional stability to make a life or death decision over an unborn infant?

What makes you think she has the stability to care for the child?

Who speaks for the unborn infant? Democrats?

Yes, and the rights of the living.

I don't see this as a left/right issue.

A woman may get pregnant (wanted or not) regardless of her political leanings.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hello Angela,

[..]

You make a good point. I believe it should ultimately be the woman's
decision but any decent woman should heavily weigh her partner's opinion as well when making that decision.

Why? Whatever happened to doctor/patient relationship? A doctor
advises his patient, his patient makes a decision as to what to do.
Might even get a second opinion. From another doctor.

Could also be a number of other reasons. Could be financial.
Could be mental health issues. Point is, she is in control of
making her own decisions. And should never be placed in the
position of being controlled by others.

--Lee

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Hello Nick,

Do not engage with Lee the troll too much, you'll waste precious time and
bytes you'll never get back.

What are you so scared of? Other folks agreeing with my POV?
My, my. You are beginning to sound like the Canadian edition of
Donald Trump.

--Lee

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The infrastructure and deployment that would be required is astronomical not to mention the cost and the obvious distrust of cybersecurity implications.

Not only that but it would cost tooo much ;-)

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