• It's really quiet in here

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to All on Tue Oct 29 21:20:38 2019
    It's quieter then a church mouse on Christmas Eve in here.
    I guess that is what happens when the truth punches you in the face.
    The democratic scheme is unraveling by the day.
    All that they have planned against President Trump for is being un-done. Justice prevails ....

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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Oct 31 06:01:02 2019
    Re: It's really quiet in here
    By: Gregory Deyss to All on Tue Oct 29 2019 09:16 pm

    It's quieter then a church mouse on Christmas Eve in here.

    I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?
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  • From Al Miller@1:261/1036 to Richard Falken on Thu Oct 31 19:03:38 2019
    Re: It's really quiet in here
    By: Gregory Deyss to All on Tue Oct 29 2019 09:16 pm

    It's quieter then a church mouse on Christmas Eve in here.

    I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?

    Depends, unlikely to do anything other then loan distract. If you like dysfunctional government
    than it’s great. :)

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Richard Falken on Thu Oct 31 22:27:58 2019
    On 31 Oct 2019, Richard Falken said the following...

    Re: It's really quiet in here
    By: Gregory Deyss to All on Tue Oct 29 2019 09:16 pm

    It's quieter then a church mouse on Christmas Eve in here.




    I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?

    It depends on who you ask.
    The democrats are fixated on impeaching the President of the United States. they had whistle-blower but not a real one because it was 4 hand information, they have vanished because released the transcript of the conversation
    between and the Ukraine leader. The democrats won the battle with their vote
    on that will formalize the vote on impeachment hearings, however they be
    far from successful in winning the War that the White House will unleash upon them.

    The saga continues...

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Nov 1 01:32:00 2019
    On 10-31-19 22:23, Gregory Deyss <=-
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    I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?

    It depends on who you ask.
    The democrats are fixated on impeaching the President of the United States. they had whistle-blower but not a real one because it was 4
    hand information,

    But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out by
    other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed the background information of Trump demanding withholding National Security
    Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his political potential opponent. I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
    even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help in
    his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.

    they have vanished because released the transcript of
    the conversation between and the Ukraine leader.

    Nothing vanished on the release of the partial transcript, especially
    since it confirmed the crime that the whistle blower alleged. And then
    Trump repeated his confession on national TV and committed another
    instance by asking China for the same sort of aid.

    The democrats won the
    battle with their vote on that will formalize the vote on impeachment hearings, however they be far from successful in winning the War that
    the White House will unleash upon them.

    The saga continues...

    I.e. the Whitehouse coverup and stonewalling continues.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Fri Nov 1 07:24:04 2019
    On 01 Nov 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 10-31-19 22:23, Gregory Deyss <=-
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    There you are.


    I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?

    It depends on who you ask.
    The democrats are fixated on impeaching the President of the United States. they had whistle-blower but not a real one because it was 4 hand information,

    But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out by other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed the background information of Trump demanding withholding National Security Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his political potential opponent.

    It's ironic that you say this..

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_expos ed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html

    I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
    even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help in his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.

    What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo.

    "looked at them and said:I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money," Biden said during a meeting of the US Council on Foreign Relations. He was referring to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and former Ukrainian prime minister Arseny Yatsenyuk. Biden added that the prosecutor was then fired. Biden told ex-Ukraine President Yanukovich to resign, former VP reveals in memoirs Biden told ex-Ukraine President Yanukovich to resign, former VP reveals in memoirs.
    "Well, son of a b***h. (Laughter.) He got fired."

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Nov 2 03:07:00 2019
    On 11-01-19 07:20, Gregory Deyss <=-
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    But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out by other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed the background information of Trump demanding withholding National Security Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his political potential opponent.

    It's ironic that you say this..

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/ histleblower_expos ed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html

    It is even more ironic that you point to a link which describes
    Republican Congressmen openingly advocating breaking the law by
    publically publishing the identity of the whistleblower. Not a good way
    to make your case.

    I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
    even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help in his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.

    What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo.

    Joe Biden has been cleared of any wrong doing. He was forcing the
    Ukrainian Government to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor. He was *not*
    forcing them to help him in his political campaign like Trump did.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Sun Nov 3 09:51:10 2019
    On 02 Nov 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 11-01-19 07:20, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-

    But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed background information of Trump demanding withholding National Securi Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his politica potential opponent.

    This is ridiculous, this is NOT what happened.

    If the president of the United States is made aware of suspected corrupt acts by a public official involving a foreign nation, he has every right to ask
    that nation to either investigate and/or produce any evidence. Indeed, it is incumbent on him to do so.

    One of the president's fundamental duties is identified in the "take care" clause (or faithful execution clause) of the U.S. Constitution. It imposes duty on the chief executive to take care that the Laws be faithfully executed. President George Washington observed, it is my duty to see the Laws executed; to permit them to be trampled upon with impunity would be repugnant to that duty.

    Whether it be immigration laws or finance laws or criminal statutes, the president is duty-bound to enforce all laws. Failure to do so would be a dereliction of his duty, as our first president believed.

    This is nothing more them a attempt by the left to muddy the waters and claim that Trump's actions are or were sinister, when they are clearly not.

    It is even more ironic that you point to a link which describes
    Republican Congressmen openingly advocating breaking the law by
    publically publishing the identity of the whistleblower. Not a good way
    to make your case.

    I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
    even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help i his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.

    What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo.
    Joe Biden has been cleared of any wrong doing. He was forcing the
    Ukrainian Government to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor. He was *not* forcing them to help him in his political campaign like Trump did.

    You need to understand what a quid pro quo is and is not.
    It's latin for; something for something.
    What biden did, was withheld money for the firing of a prosecutor - maybe this fact wouldn't of bubbled to the surface if he didn't brag about it so...
    Is this who you want; as your next President, a man deals like that? I don't

    President Trump did not withhold - arms, protection or money for exchange of information or dirt on the Biden's. He simply made the request to check into what happened. The reason why the dems want this sham of a impeachment, is because they know that it will destroy them, therefore they must show wrong doing of the President and they desperately do not want the truth about Ukraine known and must continue their efforts to turn this onto Trump, when in fact he has nothing to do with what happened. The truth will DESTROY Joe Biden and his hopes for the Presidency and this information will have aftershocks that will damage the creditably of the Democratic Party so horrifically bad that not even Rachel Maddow will not be able put back together again, what was.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Nov 4 02:26:00 2019
    On 11-03-19 09:46, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-

    But every thing in the whistle blower's statement
    has been borne out
    other witnesses who were on the call and
    witnesses who have observed
    background information of Trump demanding
    withholding National Securi
    Funds from an ally until they helped him provide
    dirt on his politica
    potential opponent.

    This is ridiculous, this is NOT what happened.

    It is exactly what happened. And has been reported on by multiple media
    and sworn statements of witnesses in their depositions to the
    impeachement committee. And btw, most of those witnesses were
    Republicans and some appointed under the Trump administration.

    Whether it be immigration laws or finance laws or criminal statutes,
    the president is duty-bound to enforce all laws. Failure to do so would
    be a dereliction of his duty, as our first president believed.

    If he believed that, why does he forbid anyone who has ever been in the Whitehouse from talking to Congress, the body who is charged by the Constitution to create the laws, to provide oversight and to investigate wrongdoing. Thankfully, not everyone has obeyed his decrees.

    This is nothing more them a attempt by the left to muddy the waters
    and claim that Trump's actions are or were sinister, when they are
    clearly not.

    Trump's actions were a violation of US Federal law - a law that you
    claim above that he is duty-bound to enforce. His actions were in
    violation of the will of Congress, by withholding funds that had been
    approved by *both* houses of Congress to give military aid to an ally of
    the USA in their fight against an adversary, Russia. But, as is
    apparent, Trump will do almost anything to support the wishes of Russia
    -- even against the laws passed by Congress.

    It is even more ironic that you point to a link which describes
    Republican Congressmen openingly advocating breaking the law by
    publically publishing the identity of the whistleblower. Not a good way to make your case.

    And in light of your other statements, it is ironic that you ignored
    that comment.

    I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
    even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign
    government for help in
    his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.

    What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo.

    Joe Biden has been cleared of any wrong doing. He was forcing the Ukrainian Government to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor. He was *not* forcing them to help him in his political campaign like Trump did.

    You need to understand what a quid pro quo is and is not.
    It's latin for; something for something.

    Everyone knows what it means.

    President Trump did not withhold - arms, protection or money for
    exchange of information or dirt on the Biden's.

    But that is exactly what he did. He withheld the funds for months, all
    the time trying to force the Ukranian President to publically announce
    that he would investigate Biden and the firm that Hunter Biden worked
    with. The public testimony has confirmed that was his intention long
    before the infamous telephone call. It was that telephone call that
    triggered the investigation when he admitted that they would only get
    the aid if they "first did him a favor though".

    He simply made the request to check into what happened.

    There was nothing simple about his "request".

    this onto Trump, when in
    fact he has nothing to do with what happened.

    Trump had everything to do with what happened. He and Rudy and others
    worked on it behind normal channels for quite some time.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Mon Nov 4 07:15:08 2019
    On 04 Nov 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 11-03-19 09:46, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-

    But every thing in the whistle blower's statement
    has been borne out
    other witnesses who were on the call and
    witnesses who have observed
    background information of Trump demanding
    withholding National Securi
    Funds from an ally until they helped him provide
    dirt on his politica
    potential opponent.

    What of the story that tells us that, this so called whistle-blower is
    actually forth hand information, and that this individual is extremely bias as they are anti-Trump, as they have connection to a DNC operative who was
    spying on the Trump campaign. This is information that simply can not be ignored among people who want to get to the real truth.

    The Dems couldn't get Trump with the Mueller report, so this impeachment
    circus is just another attempt.

    As for Trump and the Whitehouse not working with the Dems - this time.
    He fully worked with them before with the Mueller investigation and look what that collaboration got him. Nothing.
    This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be
    exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for years to come.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Nov 4 13:12:42 2019
    This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for
    years to come.

    But pretty severely damaged already, aren't they? As soon as I commend a good democrat for doing something fair or legit, there are like 10 other democrats sucking up to minorities to improve their election odds. The racism, for one thing, makes me sick. They damage themselves every day. Every time they sniff one another.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Nov 4 20:21:40 2019
    On 04 Nov 2019, aaron thomas said the following...

    This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for years to come.

    But pretty severely damaged already, aren't they? As soon as I commend a good democrat for doing something fair or legit, there are like 10 other democrats sucking up to minorities to improve their election odds. The racism, for one thing, makes me sick. They damage themselves every day. Every time they sniff one another.

    True, I know of minorities who think this way also, look around at the blight and and the crime that is your city, are things getting better by the Democratic leadership that runs these crime ridden cess pools. Surely they can not be pleased to live this way? or are they? The dems promise so much when have power. Have they ever delivered on anything that they have promised?

    They use minorities like pawns to get power, these people don't even realize that they are being played.

    There are some people who would say that I am being played or drinking the Trump kool-aid but least I am can see and acknowledge all the good things happening low unemployment, economic prosperity and growth. Making more money due to being taxed less. Seven million new jobs. These things are real.
    Even for the people who hate the President.

    It is of various ways; they are learning new ways of eating crow.

    I am told that I am the racist because I believe in these things, I am not. It's high time these people get out and stay out. Bottom line don't like here, leave and don't come back. It's crazy, how can these people claim to love the country and yet have a problem with it being greater then ever before?

    Some people just want to watch the world burn and they can not stand
    it when logic denies them and knocks them off of their soapbox.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Nov 5 00:55:00 2019
    On 11-04-19 07:10, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-

    On 11-03-19 09:46, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-

    But every thing in the whistle blower's statement
    has been borne out
    other witnesses who were on the call and
    witnesses who have observed
    background information of Trump demanding
    withholding National Security
    Funds from an ally until they helped him provide
    dirt on his political potential opponent.

    What of the story that tells us that, this so called whistle-blower is actually forth hand information, and that this individual is extremely bias as they are anti-Trump, as they have connection to a DNC operative who was spying on the Trump campaign. This is information that simply
    can not be ignored among people who want to get to the real truth.

    Is there a question or statement in that paragraph? It is such a run-on sentence that it makes no sense. Try again with coherent English.

    It is true that the whistle-blower was not in the room on the call, but
    that he received information from more than one person who was in the
    room or who had direct knowledge of it. We now know that a person who
    was in the room has testified as to what transpired -- and was told to
    keep quiet about it by the same person who moved the so-called
    transcript into a super secret vault to keep it from prying eyes.

    There is no evidence that the people who are testifying are politically motivated by either party. They are either Republicans or career
    foreign service officers -- some appointed by Trump.

    Where do you get that there was a DNC operative spying on the Trump
    campaign? Evidence please.

    The Dems couldn't get Trump with the Mueller report, so this
    impeachment circus is just another attempt.

    Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican
    administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or non-political people.
    Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made the Mueller report less effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.

    As for Trump and the Whitehouse not working with the Dems - this time.
    He fully worked with them before with the Mueller investigation and
    look what that collaboration got him. Nothing.

    It is not collaboration to reply to a subpoena. It is the law.

    This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for
    years to come.

    Trump has already confessed. It is probably that he will be impeached,
    but not convicted by the Republican Senate. But he will not be
    exonerated -- and he was not exonerated by the Mueller report, no matter
    what Barr and Trump said.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Nov 5 10:24:30 2019
    promise so much when have power. Have they ever delivered on anything
    that they have promised?

    Dems in the federal government (or those trying to get there) all seem to
    have career-ambition; they're eager to see their faces on stickers and pins. But they lack prosperity-ambition. Once elected, their dream already came
    true and it's vacation time.

    Elected Republicans have been guilty of this too, but the difference is that when Republicans fail to deliver, they get voted out. Whereas when democrats fail to deliver, (like Obama) they still get full support from their insane constituents.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Tue Nov 5 22:20:04 2019

    What of the story that tells us that, this so called whistle-blower i actually forth hand information, and that this individual is extremel bias as they are anti-Trump, as they have connection to a DNC operati who was spying on the Trump campaign. This is information that simpl can not be ignored among people who want to get to the real truth.

    Is there a question or statement in that paragraph? It is such a run-on sentence that it makes no sense. Try again with coherent English.

    It is true that the whistle-blower was not in the room on the call, but that he received information from more than one person who was in the
    room or who had direct knowledge of it. We now know that a person who
    was in the room has testified as to what transpired -- and was told to keep quiet about it by the same person who moved the so-called
    transcript into a super secret vault to keep it from prying eyes.

    First of all your paragraph is more of a run on then mine.
    My paragraph is 63 words with the use of periods & commas.
    Yours is 80 words and no commas used.

    No matter... I will answer you nonetheless, because you did.

    It's not whistle-blower if he did not hear Trump speak those words, what it
    is hear-say and nothing more, because of accuracy it is the words of
    another equal to the fish story that grows in size each time it is relayed.

    I can see through this "vale of darkness" and what the dems are trying to portray, and or what they are attempting to create; they are trying to show that the President does not know the rules and he does not know what he is doing, because he not apart of the astonishment. Sly it is.. but it wont work. Trump is also a thorn in their backside because he was never suppose to be the President. Make no mistake they are still sore about that...

    The American people see the results of what this President has accomplished for our country. It is exactly why -- they will be voting for him in 2020.
    The dems are trying to do everything that they can with investigations and impeachment to derail the Trump train. Sadly these dems will get crushed under the speed and the might of the Trump train. Save it for 2024, as you have NO shot in 2020. Save a little bit of gas in the tank for 2024.
    It is my prediction, if the dems do not stop this monkey-business it will be 2032 before you have any shot to getting back in power.
    Watch...These public hearings will rip any remaining integrity from the dems.

    Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or non-political people. Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made the Mueller report less effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.

    Wrong, because Bill Barr reached out to Mueller, the two have known one
    another for years. Mr. Barr asked Mr. Mueller, did I get it wrong?
    No was the response.
    So what you have indicated about Mr. Barr lying is simply not true.

    As for Trump and the Whitehouse not working with the Dems
    He fully worked with them before with the Mueller investigation and look what that collaboration got him. Nothing.
    It is not collaboration to reply to a subpoena. It is the law.
    1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking about subpoena's
    2. So was the 33,000 emails deleted by Hilary. That was "The Law" too.

    This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for years to come.

    It is probably that he will be impeached,
    but not convicted by the Republican Senate.

    You know what else will happen you will see these dems turning on each other
    to save their own skin.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Nov 6 03:11:00 2019
    On 11-05-19 22:15, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-


    What of the story that tells us that, this so
    called whistle-blower i
    actually forth hand information, and that this
    individual is extremel
    bias as they are anti-Trump, as they have
    connection to a DNC operati
    who was spying on the Trump campaign. This is
    information that simpl
    can not be ignored among people who want to get to the real truth.

    <<The dropped letters in above are the result of your quoting, not
    mine.>>

    Is there a question or statement in that paragraph? It is such a run-on sentence that it makes no sense. Try again with coherent English.

    It is true that the whistle-blower was not in the room on the call, but that he received information from more than one person who was in the
    room or who had direct knowledge of it. We now know that a person who
    was in the room has testified as to what transpired -- and was told to keep quiet about it by the same person who moved the so-called
    transcript into a super secret vault to keep it from prying eyes.

    First of all your paragraph is more of a run on then mine.
    My paragraph is 63 words with the use of periods & commas.
    Yours is 80 words and no commas used.

    You had at least three thoughts buried in one long sentence. The number
    of words in a paragraph is irrelevant to that. And your statement that
    I had no commas is false. I guess that if you cannot dispute the facts, disparage the messenger -- that is something you must have learned from
    Trump.

    No matter... I will answer you nonetheless, because you did.

    It's not whistle-blower if he did not hear Trump speak those words,
    what it is hear-say and nothing more, because of accuracy it is the
    words of another equal to the fish story that grows in size each time
    it is relayed.

    You seem to forget that there were reports and testimony of someone who
    was in the room. There are also reports and testimony of multiple
    people who had direct knowledge of the wrongful acts performed by Trump.

    I can see through this "vale of darkness" and what the dems are trying
    to portray, and or what they are attempting to create; they are trying
    to show that the President does not know the rules and he does not know what he is doing, because he not apart of the astonishment. Sly it is..

    It gets hard to know what he is doing when his own cabinet officials
    don't know what he is doing and when he changes his story multiple
    times.

    Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or non-political people. Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made the Mueller report less effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.

    Wrong, because Bill Barr reached out to Mueller, the two have known
    one another for years. Mr. Barr asked Mr. Mueller, did I get it wrong?
    No was the response.
    So what you have indicated about Mr. Barr lying is simply not true.

    Barr came out in public and announced that the Mueller report
    exonerated Trump from any wrong doing -- but that is definitely not
    what it said. I.e. Barr lied. What the report said was that "we cannot exonerate him".

    It is not collaboration to reply to a subpoena. It is the law.

    1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking
    about subpoena's

    But Trump is trying to tell witnesses to ignore subpoenas.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Sat Nov 9 08:24:08 2019
    You had at least three thoughts buried in one long sentence. The number of words in a paragraph is irrelevant to that. And your statement that
    I had no commas is false. I guess that if you cannot dispute the facts, disparage the messenger -- that is something you must have learned from Trump.

    Now look who is being condescending... w/your "Did I learn that from Trump?"

    what it is hear-say and nothing more, because of accuracy it is the words of another equal to the fish story that grows in size each time it is relayed.

    You seem to forget that there were reports and testimony of someone who was in the room. There are also reports and testimony of multiple
    people who had direct knowledge of the wrongful acts performed by Trump.

    The transcript was released, the dems never expected this, and it has forced them to change their intended direction.

    Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or non-political people Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made the Mueller report le effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.

    The entire investigation was a lie. The Russian dossier is fiction.
    Not a shred of truth to any of it. Great deal of money wasted for nothing.

    Now the Witch Pelosi is now STEALING money (SSA) that is not hers to fund this impeachment circus. She should not pass go and collect 200 thousand dollars. She should be hauled off to jail. She should also be strip searched for any
    get out of jail card.

    1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking about subpoena's

    Ignoring the facts or deleting my comments about DEMS ignoring subpoenas does not make them them go away.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Nov 10 01:17:00 2019
    On 11-09-19 08:19, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-


    You had at least three thoughts buried in one long sentence. The number of words in a paragraph is irrelevant to that. And your statement that
    I had no commas is false. I guess that if you cannot dispute the facts, disparage the messenger -- that is something you must have learned from Trump.

    Now look who is being condescending... w/your "Did I learn that from Trump?"

    Gee, I thought you might take that as a compliment? You are channeling
    his methodology.

    You seem to forget that there were reports and testimony of someone who was in the room. There are also reports and testimony of multiple
    people who had direct knowledge of the wrongful acts performed by Trump.

    The transcript was released, the dems never expected this, and it has forced them to change their intended direction.

    Your are partially correct. The Democrats never expected that Trump
    would publish evidence of his crime -- but I don't think it changed
    their direction, just strengthened their case.

    Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or
    non-political people
    Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made
    the Mueller report le
    effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.

    You really need to figure out what is wrong with your quoting. Not only
    are you putting in unnecessary extra quote symbols, you are truncating
    words in the quote.

    The entire investigation was a lie. The Russian dossier is fiction.
    Not a shred of truth to any of it. Great deal of money wasted for nothing.

    You seem to be equating the Muller report with the Russian dossier. To
    start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation.
    The Mueller team did a lot more investigation outside of what the dossier mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the
    result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal
    coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.

    Now the Witch Pelosi is now STEALING money (SSA) that is not hers to
    fund this impeachment circus. She should not pass go and collect 200 thousand dollars. She should be hauled off to jail. She should also be strip searched for any get out of jail card.

    Another ad hominem attack without any real substance -- just like your
    buddy Trump.

    1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking about subpoena's

    Ignoring the facts or deleting my comments about DEMS ignoring
    subpoenas does not make them them go away.

    I do not recall your making any comments about the Democrats ignoring subpoenas. Say again please, with evidence.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Sun Nov 10 10:32:36 2019

    Now look who is being condescending... w/your "Did I learn that from Trump?"

    Gee, I thought you might take that as a compliment? You are channeling his methodology.

    I'm not upset that you indicated this and I kinda do think of it as a compliment, but I know that was not your intention, because to do so that
    would mean that you have to get the President and this is something that you simply are unable to do.

    The transcript was released, the dems never expected this, and it has forced them to change their intended direction.

    Your are partially correct. The Democrats never expected that Trump
    would publish evidence of his crime -- but I don't think it changed
    their direction, just strengthened their case.

    You honestly think that the American public look at it in this manner; where
    as the democrats are gaining strength, I think that they are becoming a laughing stock.

    The reality of this really won't settle in until President Trump is re-elected.

    You seem to be equating the Muller report with the Russian dossier. To start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation.
    The Mueller team did a lot more investigation outside of what the dossier mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.

    But no convictions or any indictments to President Trump.
    Where there any other American's who were indicted or convicted?

    Now the Witch Pelosi is now STEALING money (SSA) that is not hers to fund this impeachment circus. She should not pass go and collect 200 thousand dollars. She should be hauled off to jail. She should also b strip searched for any get out of jail card.

    Another ad hominem attack without any real substance

    ok it was a hoax, (so Nasty Nancy is not stealing the money.) https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/oct/11/viral-im age/no-nancy-pelosi-didnt-divert-social-security-money/

    This does not vindicate her in any way. I still see her as not working with the President and in-fact she is going out of way not to work with the President.

    Ignoring the facts or deleting my comments about DEMS ignoring subpoenas does not make them them go away.

    I do not recall your making any comments about the Democrats ignoring subpoenas. Say again please, with evidence.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-deleted-33000-emails-secretary- state/story?id=42389308

    That would been Hillary Clinton with the deletion of 33,000 emails that were under subpoena. She claims they were about yoga. - She can barely stand on two feet, at one time within her campaign, so I have no idea how they were about yoga. Other emails were concerning her family. rrrright, that explains why the email server was in a broom closet of a some mom & pop shop.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Nov 11 04:52:00 2019
    On 11-10-19 10:27, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-

    You seem to be equating the Muller report with the Russian dossier. To start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation.
    The Mueller team did a lot more investigation outside of what the dossier mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.

    But no convictions or any indictments to President Trump.
    Where there any other American's who were indicted or convicted?

    As I said above -- there were people from the Trump campaign. Manifort,
    Gates, Papadopolus, Stone, Cohen and Flynn were all associated with the campaign in some capacity and have either pled guilty, pled innocent but convicted, or under trial at the moment. I might have forgotten
    someone, but don't think so.


    Ignoring the facts or deleting my comments about DEMS ignoring
    subpoenas does not make them them go away.

    I do not recall your making any comments about the Democrats ignoring subpoenas. Say again please, with evidence.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-deleted- 33000-emails-secretary-
    state/story?id=42389308

    That would been Hillary Clinton with the deletion of 33,000 emails
    that were under subpoena.

    Were they under subpoena? The article you referenced merely said that
    the State department requested that she (and other Secretarys of State)
    hand over work related emails. She did that. The emails that were
    deleted were deleted because they were judged to be personal.

    That is no where nearly the same as Trump trying to forbid any current
    or previous Whitehouse employee from obeying a lawful subpoena from
    Congress. That act can be taken as obstruction of Congress, and may
    well end up being one of the articles of impeachment.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Mon Nov 11 21:32:02 2019
    On 11 Nov 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 11-10-19 10:27, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-

    You seem to be equating the Muller report with the Russian dossier. start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation. The Mueller team did a lot more investigation outside of what the dos mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.

    Who is the Whistle blower? Let's connect the dots....
    It is under suspicion that this person worked Joe Biden and John Brennan at
    the CIA a CIA operative perhaps and the same person who dropped the bread crumbs who started this who thing w/ the President Trump colluded w/ Russia which was based on the Russian Dossier which Hillary Clinton paid for. This
    is also the same individual has spoken to Adam "Pencil_Neck" Schiff of which
    is now compromised himself, because he is now a fact-witness, his staff has been in contact with the non-whistle blower.

    As for crazy Uncle Joe Biden
    I will call him "Quid Pro Quo Joe" - fire him, you get the money, don't fire the prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden you don't get the money.

    ---

    "It's impossible to bring this case forward in my view fairly without us knowing who the whistle blower is and having a chance to cross examine them about any advice they may have, if they don't call the whistle blower in the house, this thing is dead on arrival on the Senate."
    - Lindsey Graham


    This skeem is rather elaborate, w/many different points all meant to do one simple thing. - Get rid of President Trump. Undo the election results of
    2016. All of this is based on that they can not accept that Donald Trump is the President.

    Then there Due Process being treated like there is no such thing.
    The scope and purpose for due process is to face your accuser, and to call witness on your behalf.

    All the dems are doing to their party making it worse by the day, because they hate Trump more then they love their own party or their own country.

    Were they under subpoena? The article you referenced merely said that
    the State department requested that she (and other Secretar
  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Nov 12 01:36:02 2019

    On 11-11-19 21:27, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-


    You seem to be equating the Muller report with
    the Russian dossier.
    start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation.
    The Mueller team did a lot more investigation
    outside of what the dos
    mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.

    Who is the Whistle blower? Let's connect the dots....

    You have no real response to what I said and so you try to pivot to some
    other topic.

    "It's impossible to bring this case forward in my view fairly without
    us knowing who the whistle blower is and having a chance to cross
    examine them about any advice they may have, if they don't call the whistle blower in the house, this thing is dead on arrival on the
    Senate." - Lindsey Graham

    What you and Graham are ignoring is that it would be illegal to expose
    the identity of the whistleblower without their consent.

    This skeem is rather elaborate, w/many different points all meant to
    do one simple thing. - Get rid of President Trump. Undo the election results of 2016. All of this is based on that they can not accept that Donald Trump is the President.

    WRONG. They cannot accept the abuse of the power of the Presidency by
    Donald Trump.

    Then there Due Process being treated like there is no such thing.
    The scope and purpose for due process is to face your accuser, and to
    call witness on your behalf.

    Wait until the trial starts. The current stage is more like a grand
    jury than a trial where information is being gathered to see if there is sufficient evidence for an indictment. After the indictment (in this
    case the impeachment) then a trial starts. It is hard to see what
    defense can be given when Trump has already published evidence of his
    crime and admitted to it.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Sun Nov 17 10:11:26 2019
    On 12 Nov 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...

    This skeem is rather elaborate, w/many different points all meant to do one simple thing. - Get rid of President Trump. Undo the election results of 2016. All of this is based on that they can not accept th Donald Trump is the President.

    WRONG. They cannot accept the abuse of the power of the Presidency by Donald Trump.

    No you're wrong there has not been any abuse of power.
    The President is duty bound to investigate acts of corruption per the
    U.S. Constitution.

    The dems have been trying to stop since the day Donald J. Trump has been elected (even before he was elected) dossier, investigations, impeachment
    which involved quid pro quo and then that faded and now it has now changed to bribes, and even witness intimidation has been brought up, all of which is ridiculous. (all of this) because if they do not destroy him, they have no
    one within the Democratic Party who can beat him in a election.
    Trump will win a Epic landslide and they know it.

    What is really going on here is that the democrats are frustrated because
    Trump is not using normal channels within his presidency, because these
    are channels that leak and then are used to create a negative spin effect. Trump is making these people invalid and un-important, by keeping things close and classified.

    DS> Wait until the trial starts.

    How did that turn out on the first day? Something tells me not the way you expected.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Nov 19 17:42:00 2019
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    What is really going on here is that the democrats are frustrated
    because Trump is not using normal channels within his presidency,
    because these are channels that leak and then are used to create a negative spin effect. Trump is making these people invalid and un-important, by keeping things close and classified.

    I would argue that these people were already invalid and unimportant. But they got themselves inserted into the political machine so that they could have power.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Tue Nov 19 19:43:10 2019
    On 19 Nov 2019, Ron Lauzon said the following...

    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    What is really going on here is that the democrats are frustrated because Trump is not using normal channels within his presidency, because these are channels that leak and then are used to create a negative spin effect. Trump is making these people invalid and un-important, by keeping things close and classified.

    I would argue that these people were already invalid and unimportant.
    But they got themselves inserted into the political machine so that they could have power.

    No argument from me Ron, by the way have you been watching these impeachment hearings? They are a complete waste of time, but highlights are fun to watch
    as they continue to come up empty.

    At least the world now knows that the so called whistle-blower is within the intelligence community, good thing it was not a luncheon / meeting or Adam Schiff would of choked on his happy meal, as he quickly stopped the
    questioning as the Republicans were nearly were on top of getting to the
    bottom of things. That would of lit the entire crate of fireworks off at once
    - it would of blew the top off the building as well.
    but it also would of been another dismal failure just like the Mueller Investigation was.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Nov 21 18:08:00 2019
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    No argument from me Ron, by the way have you been watching these impeachment hearings? They are a complete waste of time, but highlights are fun to watch as they continue to come up empty.

    I haven't been watching. I have more important stuff to do (like watching paint dry).
    But I have been following the highlights as well.

    It's interesting to see what's going on with the impeachment while reading Scott Adams' latest book Loserthink.

    At least the world now knows that the so called whistle-blower is
    within the intelligence community, good thing it was not a luncheon / meeting or Adam Schiff would of choked on his happy meal, as he quickly stopped the questioning as the Republicans were nearly were on top of getting to the bottom of things.

    Which, to me, is proof that Schiff is part of the scam.

    That would of lit the entire crate of
    fireworks off at once - it would of blew the top off the building as
    well. but it also would of been another dismal failure just like the Mueller Investigation was.

    It already is a dismal failure. Most people simply don't care and don't see anything that was wrong with what Trump did.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron Lauzon on Thu Nov 21 23:00:58 2019
    It already is a dismal failure. Most people simply don't care and don't see anything that was wrong with what Trump did.

    Democrats don't handle it well when there's a fly in their soup. I'm afraid
    for Adam Schiff's eyeballs. Is he going to be ok?

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Nov 22 17:22:00 2019
    aaron thomas wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Democrats don't handle it well when there's a fly in their soup. I'm afraid for Adam Schiff's eyeballs. Is he going to be ok?

    Probably not.

    I think that Maalox stock went up during the "hearing" because of how much he (and the other higher up Democrats) bought (probably with our money).


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  • From Tim Richardson@1:123/140 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Nov 23 19:49:00 2019
    On 11-21-19, AARON THOMAS said to RON LAUZON:

    It already is a dismal failure. Most people simply don't care and don't see anything that was wrong with what Trump did.

    Democrats don't handle it well when there's a fly in their soup. I'm AT>afraid for Adam Schiff's eyeballs. Is he going to be ok?


    The democrats began scheming to destroy Donald Trump even before he was
    sworn in as president. They were already laying plans to impeach him
    before the Ukraine even occured.


    They `have' to keep the charade alive and in the public eye in order to distract from their own criminal acts.


    Adam Shiff lied multiple times on the record.


    Were that a republican their political career would be over.


    Hillary Clinton committed actual crimes. She's a democrat. No penalty.


    Thanks to her and Hussein Obama, Russia ended up with a substantial amount
    of America's uranium.


    Think about that.....


    And....nine investors in that transaction poured $145 million (MILLION!)
    into (get ready, folks) ``The Clinton foundation''! ta DAAAA!!!! How's
    that for `corruption'!


    The democrats and republicans in the government both look upon Russia as
    a dangerous adversary of ours......and the Clinton/Hussein team maneuvered
    a huge supply of America's uranium into Russia's hands! And the Clinton Foundation gainied millions thereby. BTW....have you ever asked yourself
    what Bill Clinton would have to say that is worth paying him $500,000?


    Nobody has gone after them for taking huge sums of money in exchange for allowing a dangerous military adversary to gain control of a sizable amount
    of America's weapons-grade uranium.


    Hillary Clinton destroyed evidence that was under subpoena; harddrives destroyed with hammers.....blackberry's destroyed....sim cards broken and scratched beyond recovery.....


    Had that been a republican there would have been arrests and jail sentences.


    Clinton and her coterie are democrats. So....


    Bill and Hillary Clinton made more than $150 million from 2001 up till Hillary began her presidential campaign, giving speeches! You have to ask yourself; what the hell would either one of them have to say in a speech or even a
    whole series of speeches, worth that much money?





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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Tim Richardson on Sun Nov 24 12:19:40 2019
    Nobody has gone after them for taking huge sums of money in exchange for allowing a dangerous military adversary to gain control of a sizable amount of America's weapons-grade uranium.

    Trump's being treated like garbage for a technicality, while Obama and the Clintons literally got away with murder and treason. Let's throw the book at Trump for fighting corruption and teach our kids to embrace dishonesty.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Nov 24 19:24:10 2019
    On 24 Nov 2019, aaron thomas said the following...

    Nobody has gone after them for taking huge sums of money in exchange allowing a dangerous military adversary to gain control of a sizable amount of America's weapons-grade uranium.

    Trump's being treated like garbage for a technicality, while Obama and
    the Clintons literally got away with murder and treason. Let's throw the book at Trump for fighting corruption and teach our kids to embrace dishonesty.

    You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the left is no where to be found?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Nov 26 10:22:44 2019
    You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the left
    is no where to be found?

    They retreat into cracks and crevices, but they re-emerge when it's
    convenient. It's best not to leave or water food laying around.

    Mike Bloomberg is a good example. He said he was running for president, then his own people asked him "Why?" and he retreated. Now, he's back and he's
    doing it "because of global warming."

    I welcome him back to the race - let's see him debate with Trump - It will be hilarious!

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Nov 26 17:38:00 2019
    Gregory Deyss wrote to aaron thomas <=-

    You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the left
    is no where to be found?

    The Left has no interest in things like facts and evidence.

    All they are about is "feelings". So if a Left feels that you are guilty, them you must be guilty.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Nov 26 18:42:00 2019
    On 26 Nov 2019, aaron thomas said the following...

    I welcome him back to the race - let's see him debate with Trump - It
    will be hilarious!

    OMG, I can not wait for this, Trump will Destroy him.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Tue Nov 26 19:21:36 2019
    On 26 Nov 2019, Ron Lauzon said the following...

    Gregory Deyss wrote to aaron thomas <=-

    You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the lef is no where to be found?

    The Left has no interest in things like facts and evidence.

    All they are about is "feelings". So if a Left feels that you are
    guilty, them you must be guilty.

    I never reacted well to the desire of the left to feel as they do.
    In fact I see a turning point taking shape as the dems are losing more and
    more ground; politically speaking their losing their grasp, especially with
    the lack of evidence within these hearings. OR It could be that the adults in the room (Conservatives) having a better handle w/ superior control to display and to indicate w/ precision what exactly has been and happening.

    With every attempt that is made to undermine the President, it falls to a new and improved low and more of a disaster then ever before.
    Dale should of forwarded my recommendations to his party, they would of potentially saved a little bit of respect and creditability.

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  • From Tim Richardson@1:123/140 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Nov 30 21:56:00 2019
    On 11-24-19, AARON THOMAS said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    Nobody has gone after them for taking huge sums of money in exchange for allowing a dangerous military adversary to gain control of a sizable
    amount of America's weapons-grade uranium.


    Trump's being treated like garbage for a technicality, while Obama and the AT>Clintons literally got away with murder and treason. Let's throw the book AT>at Trump for fighting corruption and teach our kids to embrace dishonesty.


    A big part of that is after so many decades of running things any way they chose, regardless of what WE THE PEOPLE wanted or voted for, there is finally
    a president that doesn't need money, doesn't care about `how things are done' in DC in the past, won't take shit from Pelosi or Schumer, and when the democrats are stupid enough to vote impeachment....will walk all over them in
    a Senate trial.


    It will be a lot different in a Senate trial than it's been in the House.


    In the house....Adam Shitt and Pelosi's evil little dwarf, Nadler, had it all their way; set up witnesses....deny republican's witnesses....claim they had (and then refused to bring forward) a so-called `whistleblower....tried to twist and alter witness testimony....brought witnesses that ended up favorable to Trump, and then claiming they were `proof' Trump was guilty....and on and on.


    It was a disaster for the democrats. They just don't know it yet.


    In the Senate it will be like a courtroom trial, presided over by an actual judge (Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts), and democrats will not be able to exclude witnesses.


    When the spotlight begins to turn on Joe and Hunter Biden....Hillary Clinton and her involvement in the Russian dossier....the ex-Polish president who went to work for the same outfit that Hunter Biden did, and openly stated Hunter
    got his position only because of who his father was.....


    I've watched the Adam Shitt show....look forward to the evil dwarf's charade this coming week.....enjoyed watching Shitt get made a fool of...and will
    enjoy watching Nadler do the same in his little puppet show.



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  • From Tim Richardson@1:123/140 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Nov 30 22:05:00 2019
    On 11-24-19, GREGORY DEYSS said to AARON THOMAS:



    You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the left is GD>no where to be found?


    They are going bonkers trying to raise enough dust in the air to keep
    attention off a whole list of wrong-doers;


    Joe Biden

    Hillary Clinton

    John Brennan

    James Clapper

    James Comey

    Loretta Lynch

    Hussein Obama

    Eric Holder

    And many more......


    They HAVE to have this impeachment. They NEED it! Because without it the guy Barr appointed to look into the 2016 election fiasco will start drawing attention with what he's finding out and a lot of crookedness in the democrat camp will come out.


    It's going to anyway. The democrats just need impeachment of Trump to try to draw attention away from the fact that the democrats are the actual villians
    of 2016.


    Stay tuned....I think its gonna heat up.


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Dec 1 06:45:00 2019
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I never reacted well to the desire of the left to feel as they do.
    In fact I see a turning point taking shape as the dems are losing more
    and more ground; politically speaking their losing their grasp,

    I believe that most people are neither fully right or left, that they have some beliefs that are left-wing and some that are right-wing. But the Dems have moved so far to the left that they have left most people behind.

    especially with the lack of evidence within these hearings. OR It could
    be that the adults in the room (Conservatives) having a better handle
    w/ superior control to display and to indicate w/ precision what
    exactly has been and happening.

    My belief is that the Dems have worked hard to create a political machine at the Federal level (just like they've done in past with Detroit, Chicago, New York, etc.). That political machine exists to funnel money into the Dem's pockets. Something like:
    1. The Fed gives money to the Ukraine to "help" the people there.
    2. They work out a deal with a corrupt company and Ukraine gov't to put someone on the company board (ex: Biden).
    3. So $$$ goes to Ukraine gov't, they pass that $$$ to the company. The company gives $ to Biden, anther $ to the corrupt gov't and keeps $. Little, if any, go to "helping" the people.

    I'm sure this is not the only little money machine going on. I also believe that the Clinton Foundation was one of these money machines for the Dems.

    The Dems are now getting very scared that their political machine is being systematically dismantled and they have no way to get money (since it seems that they don't get anything from the voters anymore).

    With every attempt that is made to undermine the President, it falls to
    a new and improved low and more of a disaster then ever before.
    Dale should of forwarded my recommendations to his party, they would of potentially saved a little bit of respect and creditability.

    I don't believe that the Dems have any respect or credibility left - at least with anyone not on the far-left.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron Lauzon on Sun Dec 1 10:13:44 2019
    2. They work out a deal with a corrupt company and Ukraine gov't to put someone on the company board (ex: Biden).

    Hunter says he doesn't want anyone looking at his financial records,
    but that won't be an issue for the decepticons, because they only have
    issues with financial records when it's convenient. For them, there's "nothing shady" about the sniffer or the Hunter.

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