• Tape deck

    From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to All on Wed Mar 18 23:16:51 2020
    I've recently seen reviews of some consumer grade tape decks, most recently the new TASCAM CD-A580 on vwestlife's channel.

    So, I'm sure yall's have seen the review. Would it be prudent for me to buy a model such as the tascam or find a relatively inexpensive naka?

    I'm in need of some fresh tapes for my car's deck and would prefer to mix them on a quality deck.

    Thanks
    Daniel Traechin

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man@VERT to calcmandan on Thu Mar 19 01:11:29 2020
    Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to All on Wed Mar 18 2020 11:16 pm

    I've recently seen reviews of some consumer grade tape decks, most recently the new TASCAM CD-A580 on vwestlife's channel.

    So, I'm sure yall's have seen the review. Would it be prudent for me to buy a model such as the tascam or find a relatively inexpensive naka?

    I'm in need of some fresh tapes for my car's deck and would prefer to mix them on a quality deck.

    Wow, you have a cassette deck in your... car? I thought I had an old car (1997 Lexus)!

    Anyway, $400 seems like a lot to put down for a cassette deck, but I'd probably do it if I had something original (not mass produced) I wanted to digitially archive. A few years ago I bought a Teac W-890R-B because I found myself with a working tape deck and need to do some archiving. Haven't used it since. <shrug>

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #39:
    Airport Security Officer: Do you have any artificial plates or limbs?
    Norco, CA WX: 49.2øF, 79.0% humidity, 2 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to calcmandan on Thu Mar 19 12:26:19 2020
    Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to All on Wed Mar 18 2020 11:16 pm

    I've recently seen reviews of some consumer grade tape decks, most recently the new TASCAM CD-A580 on vwestlife's channel.

    I just looked that up. I'd probably want to have such a thing record cassettes to a USB drive (rather than CD-R), but the description implies it saves directly as MP3 files.. I'd prefer to first save to a lossless format such as FLAC. And I'm also wondering if it does any hiss reduction or anything with the cassette audio?

    A few years ago, I bought one of these USB cassette decks, which allows recording cassette audio on a PC:
    www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KKIATEE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title
    It was fairly inexpensive (within $30 or so). The USB interface appears as an audio input, and you can record to any format you want on your PC. I digitized a few cassettes with that. After recording the audio, I used a hiss reduction on the audio (using Audacity) before saving the audio to FLAC, and then converted those to MP3.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Thu Mar 19 14:24:58 2020
    Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Thu Mar 19 2020 12:26 pm

    I'm looking for a way to dub new cassettes. I have over 4000 cd's in my collection but my car has a tape deck up front and a CD changer in the trunk. I drive a very clean and low mileage 2002.

    Daniel Traechin

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 14:25:30 2020
    Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Thu Mar 19 2020 01:11 am

    Wow, you have a cassette deck in your... car? I thought I had an old car (19

    It's a very clean and low mileage BMW. Tape deck up front, cd changer in the trunk.
    Daniel Traechin

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to calcmandan on Thu Mar 19 15:59:11 2020
    Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Thu Mar 19 2020 02:24 pm

    I'm looking for a way to dub new cassettes. I have over 4000 cd's in my collection but my car has a tape deck up front and a CD changer in the trunk. I drive a very clean and low mileage 2002.

    Unless you really like playing cassettes, I'm thinking it might be easier to use the CD changer, or other than upgrading your car stereo, you can buy one of those cassette audio adapters that would let you plug a smartphone/media player/etc. into your car radio via the cassette deck:
    https://www.amazon.com/RCA-AH600R-Car-Cassette-Adapter/dp/B000BUN79K

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Fri Mar 20 15:14:00 2020
    On 03-19-20 15:59, Nightfox wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Unless you really like playing cassettes, I'm thinking it might be
    easier to use the CD changer, or other than upgrading your car stereo,
    you can buy one of those cassette audio adapters that would let you
    plug a smartphone/media player/etc. into your car radio via the
    cassette deck: https://www.amazon.com/RCA-AH600R-Car-Cassette-Adapter/dp/B000BUN79K

    I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)


    ... There is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 12:24:31 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Mar 20 2020 03:14 pm

    I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)

    I haven't tried that. I have a USB flash drive with my music library in my car, which I tend to listen to quite a bit. Seems easier than connecting my phone to my car stereo. :)

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sat Mar 21 09:47:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 12:24, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/DIGDIST
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Mar 20 2020 03:14 pm

    I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)

    I haven't tried that. I have a USB flash drive with my music library
    in my car, which I tend to listen to quite a bit. Seems easier than connecting my phone to my car stereo. :)

    Bluetooth is pretty straightforward. :) The issue I have with USB drives is how good the interface is to navigate the tracks. A lot of audio gear has really clunky interfaces, from my experience. Phones are better, generally. :)


    ... Several excuses are always less convincing than one.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 20:54:26 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sat Mar 21 2020 09:47 am

    I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my
    phone. Easoest of the lot. :)

    I haven't tried that. I have a USB flash drive with my music
    library in my car, which I tend to listen to quite a bit. Seems
    easier than connecting my phone to my car stereo. :)

    Bluetooth is pretty straightforward. :) The issue I have with USB drives is how good the interface is to navigate the tracks. A lot of audio gear has really clunky interfaces, from my experience. Phones are better, generally. :)

    True, though I think my car stereo works well enough. And I think it's easier to reach over to the car stereo to navigate music rather than reach down to my phone. I at least feel a little safer in my car when I only have to reach over to my car stereo.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sat Mar 21 16:19:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 20:54, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    True, though I think my car stereo works well enough. And I think it's easier to reach over to the car stereo to navigate music rather than
    reach down to my phone. I at least feel a little safer in my car when
    I only have to reach over to my car stereo.

    Where's your phone? I use an in car mount that puts the phone in a convenient place, and the Bluetooth interface adds convenient buttons for previous, next track, as well as play/pause/answer call. And yes, I can talk hands free too. :)


    ... I'm at the corner of WALK and DON'T WALK...
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 08:07:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)

    It's easy to get spoiled. My wife and I bought a used car, a 2011 Mazda. Excellent condition, well maintained, and once I had the interior detailed,
    it looks like new.

    The only hiccup? 2011 audio. Wait, what do you mean there isn't a touch screen, and support for USB drives? I can't pick music by genres, select
    play lists, and use voice commands? No Pandora client?

    Works fine for my wife, she still listens to CDs and it does do hands-free bluetooth. I found a cable with lightning on one end and a 3.5mm stereo headphone plug so she can play audio through the AUX jack.


    ... Repetition is a form of change
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 12:06:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 08:07, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/REALITY
    Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)

    It's easy to get spoiled. My wife and I bought a used car, a 2011
    Mazda. Excellent condition, well maintained, and once I had the
    interior detailed, it looks like new.

    Yes, true, technology mmoves quickly, but there's a lot of aftermarket products that fill the gaps.

    The only hiccup? 2011 audio. Wait, what do you mean there isn't a touch screen, and support for USB drives? I can't pick music by genres,
    select play lists, and use voice commands? No Pandora client?

    Haha exactly. :)

    Works fine for my wife, she still listens to CDs and it does do
    hands-free bluetooth. I found a cable with lightning on one end and a 3.5mm stereo headphone plug so she can play audio through the AUX jack.

    As I said, there's so many workaround options these days. So the Bluetooth doesn't play audio from the phone (other than actual phone calls)?


    ... Assassination is the extreme form of censorship.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 01:35:16 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sat Mar 21 2020 04:19 pm

    True, though I think my car stereo works well enough. And I think
    it's easier to reach over to the car stereo to navigate music rather
    than reach down to my phone. I at least feel a little safer in my
    car when I only have to reach over to my car stereo.

    Where's your phone? I use an in car mount that puts the phone in a convenient place, and the Bluetooth interface adds convenient buttons for previous, next track, as well as play/pause/answer call. And yes, I can talk hands free too. :)

    In the car, I usually have my phone in one of the cup holders. Or I might just leave my phone in my pocket. :)

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 01:41:10 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:07 am

    It's easy to get spoiled. My wife and I bought a used car, a 2011 Mazda. Excellent condition, well maintained, and once I had the interior detailed, it looks like new.

    The only hiccup? 2011 audio. Wait, what do you mean there isn't a touch screen, and support for USB drives? I can't pick music by genres, select play lists, and use voice commands? No Pandora client?

    Works fine for my wife, she still listens to CDs and it does do hands-free bluetooth. I found a cable with lightning on one end and a 3.5mm stereo headphone plug so she can play audio through the AUX jack.

    I don't really use much of that. I put a GPS navigation stereo in my car in 2012, and I mostly just use the radio tuner (yes, I still listen to the radio in my car), MP3s on a USB drive, and I use the GPS from time to time. It has a Pandora connection, but even with my phone paired via Bluetooth and Pandora running on my phone, I've never gotten the Pandora connection working with my car stereo.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sun Mar 22 20:13:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 01:35, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Where's your phone? I use an in car mount that puts the phone in a convenient place, and the Bluetooth interface adds convenient buttons for previous, next track, as well as play/pause/answer call. And yes, I can talk hands free too. :)

    In the car, I usually have my phone in one of the cup holders. Or I
    might just leave my phone in my pocket. :)

    Having it in a cup holder would be illegal here, but pocket is OK. Either way, I can still control play, previous and next track with the phone in my pocket over Bluetooth. :)


    ... The advantage of exercising every day is that you die healthier.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 12:41:47 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sun Mar 22 2020 08:13 pm

    In the car, I usually have my phone in one of the cup holders. Or I
    might just leave my phone in my pocket. :)

    Having it in a cup holder would be illegal here, but pocket is OK. Either way, I can still control play, previous and next track with the phone in my pocket over Bluetooth. :)

    Here, it's illegal to be using or holding a phone while driving, but I haven't heard of it being illegal to have a phone in the cup holder here.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sun Mar 22 10:23:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I don't really use much of that. I put a GPS navigation stereo in my
    car in 2012, and I mostly just use the radio tuner (yes, I still listen
    to the radio in my car), MP3s on a USB drive, and I use the GPS from
    time to time. It has a Pandora connection, but even with my phone
    paired via Bluetooth and Pandora running on my phone, I've never gotten the Pandora connection working with my car stereo.


    I have a 2014 Prius with a "smart" sound system, and it solves yesterday's problem as expected.

    1. The maps don't update automatically, so you need to bring it into the dealer to have them update the maps at more than what a good Garmin GPS
    costs.

    2. There is a Gas Prices app, also not updated since 2014. Not a huge issue unless a gas station has closed in 5 years.

    3. The maps application needs the phone to be paired via bluetooth and an
    app, and you need to launch an app that uses traffic (like the gas prices
    app) in order to get traffic updates.

    4. The system originally came with Pandora, IHeartRadio and Slacker Radio,
    and has since discontinued Pandora. The button is still there, but it pops
    up a message. They didn't think to push out an update to remove the button
    and fix any bugs along the way.

    5. Music playing is pretty good, it does a search by playlist, genre,
    artist, or album, and it does voice recognition. Displays album art, too.
    It's limited to 9000 songs and 64 GB drives, which is OK.


    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 11:58:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Having it in a cup holder would be illegal here, but pocket is OK.
    Either way, I can still control play, previous and next track with the phone in my pocket over Bluetooth. :)

    I think you're right - "Attached to the dash" is the phrase I keep hearing from law enforcement.

    A friend of mine got a ticket for using his phone in a self-driving Tesla on the highway. The told him to get a dash mount - the level of distraction
    would be the same, but they could check the box.


    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Mon Mar 23 16:08:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 12:41, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Here, it's illegal to be using or holding a phone while driving, but I haven't heard of it being illegal to have a phone in the cup holder
    here.

    People have been done for not having their phone properly secured. And no excuse, since there's cheap holders that are dead easy to fit.


    ... Error reading FAT Table...Try Skinny one ? (Y/N)
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Mar 23 16:09:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 11:58, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I think you're right - "Attached to the dash" is the phrase I keep
    hearing from law enforcement.

    Yep, or "properly secured".

    A friend of mine got a ticket for using his phone in a self-driving
    Tesla on the highway. The told him to get a dash mount - the level of distraction would be the same, but they could check the box.

    Until you drop your phone while driving. ;)


    ... Save fuel. Get cremated with a friend.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 23:22:41 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 2020 11:58 am

    I think you're right - "Attached to the dash" is the phrase I keep hearing from law enforcement.

    A friend of mine got a ticket for using his phone in a self-driving Tesla on the highway. The told him to get a dash mount - the level of distraction would be the same, but they could check the box.

    With the amount of attention the law has given cell phones while driving, I'm a little surprised they also haven't passed laws against changing the music on a car stereo while driving, or using a GPS while driving.

    I have an in-dash GPS car streo, and when I activate the GPS, it gives a momentary warning not to use it while driving, and for a moment, it even prevents you from pressing the button to continue so that you can read the message. Seems a little ironic for it to make you wait for a message about using it while driving, if you're driving..

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Mon Mar 23 08:06:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I have an in-dash GPS car streo, and when I activate the GPS, it gives
    a momentary warning not to use it while driving, and for a moment, it
    even prevents you from pressing the button to continue so that you can read the message. Seems a little ironic for it to make you wait for a message about using it while driving, if you're driving..

    Mine makes me press a "DISMISS" button!


    ... Do something boring
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 13:44:14 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Mon Mar 23 2020 04:08 pm

    Here, it's illegal to be using or holding a phone while driving, but
    I haven't heard of it being illegal to have a phone in the cup
    holder here.

    People have been done for not having their phone properly secured. And no excuse, since there's cheap holders that are dead easy to fit.

    I can understand holding their phone while driving, but why "properly secured"? If someone is on their phone hands-free with bluetooth or something, what difference would it make if the phone is in a phone holder or in a cup holder, or in their pocket?

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Tue Mar 24 10:53:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 13:44, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I can understand holding their phone while driving, but why "properly secured"? If someone is on their phone hands-free with bluetooth or something, what difference would it make if the phone is in a phone
    holder or in a cup holder, or in their pocket?

    In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been said.


    ... Political Season: Does that mean we can shoot them??
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Tue Mar 24 13:20:10 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Tue Mar 24 2020 10:53 am

    I can understand holding their phone while driving, but why
    "properly secured"? If someone is on their phone hands-free with
    bluetooth or something, what difference would it make if the phone
    is in a phone holder or in a cup holder, or in their pocket?

    In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been said.

    I'd think the same could be said for anything sitting in the car.. For instance, what if you're coming home from the store and have something sitting on the seat? There are a multitude of scenarios where you might have something sitting in the car somewhere, which could potentially go flying in a collision.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Wed Mar 25 00:27:00 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Tue Mar 24 2020 01:20 pm

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Tue Mar 24 2020 10:53 am

    I can understand holding their phone while driving, but why
    "properly secured"? If someone is on their phone hands-free with
    bluetooth or something, what difference would it make if the phone
    is in a phone holder or in a cup holder, or in their pocket?

    In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been said.

    I'd think the same could be said for anything sitting in the car.. For inst where, which could potentially go flying in a collision.

    Nightfox

    If the phone needs some level of interaction, such as to answer a call , a loose phone could slip out of someone's hands or be right out of their reach, making it hard to reach and drive at the same time.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Wed Mar 25 13:52:26 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Wed Mar 25 2020 12:27 am

    If the phone needs some level of interaction, such as to answer a call , a loose phone could slip out of someone's hands or be right out of their reach, making it hard to reach and drive at the same time.

    That's one reason why some places have passed laws against holding and using a phone while driving. If you can use your phone hands-free, that would be more ideal. Some smartphones have a voice assistant that can read texts and let you respond to texts with voice commands. Also, many cars these days have a Bluetooth-compatible stereo and let you answer phone calls from the car streo interface so you don't have to touch your phone. You could also buy a Bluetooth headset to wear while driving.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 00:27:35 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 2020 11:22 pm

    little surprised they also haven't passed laws against changing the music on car stereo while driving, or using a GPS while driving.


    yeah i have fucked with my gps while driving 90 and moved a bit out of the lines.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Mar 26 05:10:46 2020
    On 3/20/2020 8:07 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
    The only hiccup? 2011 audio. Wait, what do you mean there isn't a touch screen, and support for USB drives? I can't pick music by genres, select
    play lists, and use voice commands? No Pandora client?

    Works fine for my wife, she still listens to CDs and it does do hands-free bluetooth. I found a cable with lightning on one end and a 3.5mm stereo headphone plug so she can play audio through the AUX jack.

    I just play over bluetooth these days... just have to remember to start
    it up before I pull it out of park. Most of the music selection ui, and
    usb thumb drive support was hit or miss for me over the years...

    I do with they'd come up with a standard for bluetooth ui, that would
    let phones and mobile devices update but still be able to integrate with
    a longer lived touchscreen in a car.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 05:14:05 2020
    On 3/22/2020 1:41 AM, Nightfox wrote:

    I don't really use much of that. I put a GPS navigation stereo in my car in 2012, and I mostly just use the radio tuner (yes, I still listen to the radio in my car), MP3s on a USB drive, and I use the GPS from time to time. It has a Pandora connection, but even with my phone paired via Bluetooth and Pandora running on my phone, I've never gotten the Pandora connection working with my car stereo.

    Internet pairing with my phone (2016 car) never worked very well, easier
    to just use apps on the phone and bluetooth to play via the car...
    next/prev work via car, but just have to remember to start the player
    before I pull it out of park.

    I did switch to Verizon for better coverage on the road... my last road
    trip only have a few moments where I lost playback going from Phx,
    through nevada to northern washington and back to Phoenix via California
    PCH.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Vk3jed on Thu Mar 26 05:17:18 2020
    On 3/23/2020 4:53 PM, Vk3jed wrote:

    In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been said.

    As could an actual cup in said cup holder...

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 05:20:27 2020
    On 3/25/2020 1:52 PM, Nightfox wrote:

    That's one reason why some places have passed laws against holding and using a phone while driving. If you can use your phone hands-free, that would be more ideal. Some smartphones have a voice assistant that can read texts and let you respond to texts with voice commands. Also, many cars these days have a Bluetooth-compatible stereo and let you answer phone calls from the car streo interface so you don't have to touch your phone. You could also buy a Bluetooth headset to wear while driving.

    Before I had hands-free + bluetooth integration, I'd actually pull off
    to the side of the road to take a phone call... surprising how many
    times I'd have a cop stop to ask if I'm okay, etc. Every time surprised
    that I'm just on the phone, not driving.

    I think poor integration to bluetooth and the car stereo head is almost
    worse than if I'd taken the call and put the phone in my pocket on
    speaker... Seems like every other android update breaks or fixes
    bluetooth issues to me.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Mar 26 11:33:00 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 2020 12:27 am

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 2020 11:22 pm

    little surprised they also haven't passed laws against changing the music car stereo while driving, or using a GPS while driving.


    yeah i have fucked with my gps while driving 90 and moved a bit out of the lines.

    I've seen people shaving, putting on makeup and reading the newspaper while driving

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Thu Mar 26 18:04:43 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Mar 26 2020 11:33 am

    I've seen people shaving, putting on makeup and reading the newspaper while driving

    I've seen people doing some of that. One time I also saw a driver with their left foot hanging out the driver door window while driving..

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Mar 26 21:20:00 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Mar 26 2020 11:33 am

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 2020 12:27 am

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 2020 11:22 pm

    little surprised they also haven't passed laws against changing the mu car stereo while driving, or using a GPS while driving.


    yeah i have fucked with my gps while driving 90 and moved a bit out of th lines.

    I've seen people shaving, putting on makeup and reading the newspaper while driving


    these women putting on eyeliner or mascara too.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Tracker1 on Fri Mar 27 17:17:00 2020
    On 03-26-20 05:17, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/TRN
    On 3/23/2020 4:53 PM, Vk3jed wrote:

    In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been
    aid.

    As could an actual cup in said cup holder...

    True. I've never been a fan of driving with a drink, though I occasionally do keep a sports bottle of water around on a hot day. I'm more likely to use cup holders for a roadside picnic. :)


    ... "All men are ignorant, just in different fields." -- Einstein
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Fri Mar 27 18:36:00 2020
    On 03-26-20 11:33, Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    I've seen people shaving, putting on makeup and reading the newspaper while driving

    Just last night, I was stuck behind a woman who kept fiddling with her hair every time she stopped at a red light. Don't know what that was all about.


    ... I am Homer of Borg! Prepare to be ... Oooooo! Donuts!
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rampage on Tue Apr 21 13:26:37 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Rampage on Tue Apr 21 2020 01:17 pm

    I used to have a casette tape deck back in the 80's that was awesome like that. You could tap the rewind button and it would go to the beginning of the song. If you tapped it twice, it'd go 2 songs back. If you tapped the play button twice, it'd repeat the current song. It was awesome and had a high power headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus I enjoy today! :-)

    It was a Toshiba PC-G30. It sat behind my drumset and was my means of learning and practicing so many Rush, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, and Black Sabbath songs of my youth. I loved really cherished that piece of gear and used it even well into the CD era as CD players of the time had a tendency to skip when placed near a high decibel sound source like a drum set. Eventually buffering (skipless) CD players and solid-state players replaced it.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #89:
    Rob played drums on the album "Weedpuller" available for digital purchase/stream
    Norco, CA WX: 68.5øF, 57.0% humidity, 5 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Digital Man on Tue Apr 21 16:52:51 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Rampage on Tue Apr 21 2020 13:17:56


    Rampage>> i guess you never had one of those intelligent tape decks that
    Rampage>> would fast forward listening for the silence between songs and
    Rampage>> then drop back to normal play mode, then ;)

    I used to have a casette tape deck back in the 80's that was awesome
    like that. You could tap the rewind button and it would go to the beginning of the song. If you tapped it twice, it'd go 2 songs back.
    If you tapped the play button twice, it'd repeat the current song.

    sounds like a couple i had back in the day ;)

    It was awesome and had a high power headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus I enjoy today! :-)

    i resemble that remark :lol:


    )\/(ark

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tue Apr 21 17:32:18 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Rampage on Tue Apr 21 2020 01:17 pm

    headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus I enjo today! :-)


    did you ever try decreasing your salt intake? it worked for me a little with
    my tinnitus.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Wed Apr 22 12:06:00 2020
    On 04-21-20 13:14, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Nah, tapes are horrible: They stretch, they demagnetize, they get
    tangled, they're noisy and have a low dynamic range. Good riddance, I
    say!

    No argument from me! :)


    ... Those who think they know it all, often upset those of us who do.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tue Apr 21 22:10:14 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Apr 21 2020 04:05 pm

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Apr 21 2020 05:32 pm

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Rampage on Tue Apr 21 2020 01:17 pm

    headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus enjo today! :-)


    did you ever try decreasing your salt intake? it worked for me a little w my tinnitus.

    No, but I'm not a big consumer of salt to begin with. I've had some results with therapy apps on the iphone, but mostly, I just live with it. <shrug>


    try eating something salty and seeing if it gets worse. then MAYBE you can decrease salt in your diet and lessen it. that's what i did. tinnitus has a lot of causes and different things work for different people[if anything works].
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Rampage on Wed Apr 22 00:50:00 2020
    Rampage wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Tue Apr 21 2020 11:13:31


    Nightfox> With CDs and media files on a USB drive, you can skip tracks
    Nightfox> easily. But with a cassette tape, if you want to go to a
    Nightfox> specific song, you have to keep fast-forwarding/rewinding
    Nightfox> and stop to check if it's in the right place, and if not,
    Nightfox> keep going..

    i guess you never had one of those intelligent tape decks that would
    fast forward listening for the silence between songs and then drop back
    to normal play mode, then ;)

    Mine does. And I have navigation buttons on my steering wheel so i can ff without
    looking away from the road. I can even switch sides.

    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Wed Apr 22 00:56:00 2020
    Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Tue Apr 21 2020 11:13 am

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Mon Apr 20 2020 06:07 pm

    Tape is better than people remember. I only use type-2 tape.

    I suppose tape isn't that bad, but the other part of it is convenience.
    With CDs and media files on a USB drive, you can skip tracks easily. But with a cassette tape, if you want to go to a specific song, you have to keep fast-forwarding/rewinding and stop to check if it's in the right place, and if not, keep going..

    Nah, tapes are horrible: They stretch, they demagnetize, they get
    tangled, they're noisy and have a low dynamic range. Good riddance, I
    say!

    While these things can happen, they're prone to have these issues if the deck itself hasn't been cleaned or maintained. Also, people had a propensity of buying the cheapest tape they can find, and that can cause problems.

    I use nothing but type 2 and have a few metal. They've never had those issues youve stated. I currently have no tape deck at home for dubbing because i sold it when money was tight. I regret that decision but it's life.

    I have tapes dating back to the early 80s during my childhood. They still
    sound great and play fine. But then, I keep my deck clean.

    I've never seen or heard of anyone having a demagnetized tape from use.
    There can be a magnetized head which will cause bunching or tangling to occur but it is often easy to avoid with some maintenance. Wiping a tape is something that one would do on purpose to wipe sensitive recordings. My HR department used to do that all the time.

    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Wed Apr 22 14:17:14 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 2020 12:30 pm

    With vinyl, you had "groove echo" (even on a brand new LP), which I don't miss... so yeah, I'm the digital man for a reason. :-)

    I tend to like digital formats too (CD and computer audio files). I don't like the hiss and pops and crackles in vinyl. And not too long ago I learned something I never really thought about, that because vinyl records spin at a constant speed, the grooves toward the center of the record don't capture high frequencies as well as the outer grooves because the inner grooves are shorter.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Wed Apr 22 10:20:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to calcmandan <=-

    It has little to do with driving, as the issue happens on any cassette deck, at home or wherever.. But with driving it can be worse if you
    have to fiddle with the car stereo too much.

    I don't typically bother with the tape and let it play. But if I want to
    rehear a song there are controls on my steering wheel that i can toggle.
    But anyway.

    I still like to buy CDs, but if I bought music online, I'd prefer FLAC format.

    I kind of stopped buying new cd's because they almost never come in jewel
    cases anymore. Now, they're in flimsy card stock sleeves. I have a few of
    them from indie artists trying to make a living. But, mainstream releases
    don't get bought by me because it really screws with my archiving mojo.

    I'll still buy cd's though, mostly from the 80s and 90s releases that I'm
    still backfilling to complete collections. I like to collect first press releases. Got just over 4800 cd's in my collection and it's at a point
    that I have to think it's too much. I have some of my archive boxes in
    my hangar because I simply don't have room for them in the house.

    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Thu Apr 23 11:48:00 2020
    On 04-22-20 12:30, Digital Man wrote to calcmandan <=-

    With vinyl, you had "groove echo" (even on a brand new LP), which I
    don't miss... so yeah, I'm the digital man for a reason. :-)

    Not to mention that IMD on LPs was several _percent_ - a spec that was never mentioned in stylus/cartridge specs. ;) Vinyl was good in its day, but I didn't need to be convinced to switch to digital, I more had to wait for digital to catch up with where my thinking was at. Digital has been criticised for sounding "harsh", but that issue can be avoided nowadays. Higher sampling rates (e.g. 96k or 192k) and better processing (e.g. doing the really sharp filtering in DSP) will help a lot.

    Some people say that "LPs sound better" or that "valve amps have a nice warm sound". This is likely even harmonic distortion, which can sound pleasing to the ear. And the beauty of digital is if you really want these things, DSP can add them in for you. :)

    These days, it sucks that so much music is available with only lossy compression. I prefer to have a lossless copy (FLAC, etc) to start with.

    Yep, I'm definitely a digitap person myself. :)


    ... Warranty (n.): See Disclaimer.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thu Apr 23 11:53:00 2020
    On 04-22-20 14:17, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I tend to like digital formats too (CD and computer audio files). I

    Join the club. :)

    don't like the hiss and pops and crackles in vinyl. And not too long

    Yeah, I'm not exactly a fan of those either.

    ago I learned something I never really thought about, that because
    vinyl records spin at a constant speed, the grooves toward the center
    of the record don't capture high frequencies as well as the outer
    grooves because the inner grooves are shorter.

    Yep, that's related to why CDs use constant linear velocity (i.e. varying the RPM depending on where the laser pickup is reading) - to maximise the storage capability of the medium for a constant data rate. In the analog world, that shows as changes in the frequency response of the medium as linear velocity changes.


    ... "...death awaits you all with big and nasty pointy teeth."
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Thu Apr 23 12:01:00 2020
    On 04-22-20 16:13, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Good point. You'd have lower fidelity on those inner grooves. Tapes had similar issues as the amount of tape on the spool could affect the
    speed over the heads. "Mechanical music" :-)

    The capstan of the tape deck is supposed to ensure constant tape speed (obviously a stickly reel might affect things). However, many open reel tape decks had selectable speeds, so you could choose the best compromise between audio quality and economy of tape use - faster speeds for higher quality, slower speeds for better economy.

    Cassettes used a very low tape speed (1 7/8 inches/sec IIRC) and narrow tape, because they were originally intended for dictation machines, but people found them convenient for recording and listening to music. Engineers then used all sorts of techniques, from changing tape formulations to Dolby and other forms of noise reduction, to squeeze the best audio quality out of a format that wasn't originally designed for hi fi.

    We are so spoilt today with the availability of cheap devices capable of making reasonably quality recordings and the ability to store countless hours of music, even uncompressed. Capabilities I only dreamed of as a teenager.


    ... Every action has an equal and opposite government program
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Wed Apr 22 19:51:41 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Thu Apr 23 2020 11:53 am

    ago I learned something I never really thought about, that because
    vinyl records spin at a constant speed, the grooves toward the
    center of the record don't capture high frequencies as well as the
    outer grooves because the inner grooves are shorter.

    Yep, that's related to why CDs use constant linear velocity (i.e. varying the RPM depending on where the laser pickup is reading) - to maximise the storage capability of the medium for a constant data rate. In the analog world, that shows as changes in the frequency response of the medium as linear velocity changes.

    As far as sound quality, I thought the groove length wouldn't really matter with CDs, because it's a series of digital bits rather than analog data. But it's good that they thought of maximizing storage capacity.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Wed Apr 22 20:03:49 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Tue Apr 21 2020 11:02 am

    Nope, still terrible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPn3Gop2h1A

    That's cool.

    A few years ago, I bought a USB cassette deck to digitize some old cassette tapes. Some of them are some music that seems to be unavailable on CD or online download. In the 70s and 80s, Roland (synthesizer company) had an annual synthesizer music contest where they let people send in tapes of their synthesizer music, and Roland would choose their favorites (the winners would win some prizes), and Roland would release a cassette tape of the winners' songs. My dad had the cassette of the 8th contest, which he gave to me a long time ago. I also found the 6th & 7th on eBay, and I've been trying to find as many of the others as I can. I have digitally recorded the tapes I have so far. Also, I lost the cassette sleeve for the 8th a long time ago, so I'm missing many of the artist & track names. I've found a few of them online, but the information is very hard to find, as are the tapes themselves.

    I put my digital recordings of them on YouTube (which seems to be a popular site for music):
    6th: https://youtu.be/1Bn6I801BhE
    7th: https://youtu.be/Gi5JH1ZfZYA
    8th: https://youtu.be/1sgibLoz9cA

    I also put them on the Internet Archive:
    6th:
    https://archive.org/details/Roland6thAnnualSynthesizerContest

    7th:
    https://archive.org/details/Roland7thAnnualSynthesizerContest

    8th:
    https://archive.org/details/Roland8thAnnualSynthesizerContest_MissingInfo

    I've also shared them on Reddit, and another Reddit user had the 9th tape and put it on the Internet Archive:
    https://archive.org/details/roland-9th-annual-synthesizer-tape-contest

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Fri Apr 24 10:56:00 2020
    On 04-22-20 19:51, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    As far as sound quality, I thought the groove length wouldn't really matter with CDs, because it's a series of digital bits rather than
    analog data. But it's good that they thought of maximizing storage capacity.

    Yes, it's purely to maximise storage capacity in the case of CDs, because the data rate is constant (16 x 2 x 44100) bits per second, plus CIRC (error correction) overhead. The most efficient use of space is when the disk passes under the laser at the optimal linear speed - for audio, the speed which produces the above bitrate, when the data is packed as tightly as it can be. :)


    ... The four stages of man are: infancy, childhood, adolescence and obsolescen --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Fri Apr 24 16:51:07 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 2020 12:30 pm

    I used to leave my tapes in hot cars and a hot garage a lot, which likely played a role in the degradation I experienced. But I've also heard pristine tapes that were left wound too long and you get an echo or warble where the


    i just had a flashback of the tape being eaten in the cassette deck.
    yep, dont miss that
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Fri Apr 24 16:03:37 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Apr 24 2020 04:51 pm

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 2020 12:30 pm

    I used to leave my tapes in hot cars and a hot garage a lot, which likely played a role in the degradation I experienced. But I've also heard pristine tapes that were left wound too long and you get an echo or warble where the


    i just had a flashback of the tape being eaten in the cassette deck.
    yep, dont miss that

    Oh yeah. Get a pencil and rewind that thing to play it again, now with lots of extra special effects. :-)

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #37:
    HTTP = Hypertext Transfer Protocol
    Norco, CA WX: 96.4øF, 18.0% humidity, 5 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sat Apr 25 19:54:00 2020
    On 04-24-20 16:51, MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-

    i just had a flashback of the tape being eaten in the cassette deck.
    yep, dont miss that

    Neither do I. I had that happen last year as I was trying to convert a tape to digital. The cause was a faulty tape deck that had developed a mechanical fault. I was able to splice the tape back together and filling in the missing part with audio from a backup copy (gotta love Audacity :) ), once I had obtained a replacement cassette deck. :)


    ... [COUPON] Good for one FREE Tagline! [COUPON]
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Sat Apr 25 06:49:00 2020
    Digital Man wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Apr 24 2020 04:51 pm

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 2020 12:30 pm

    I used to leave my tapes in hot cars and a hot garage a lot, which likely played a role in the degradation I experienced. But I've also heard pristine tapes that were left wound too long and you get an echo or warble where the


    i just had a flashback of the tape being eaten in the cassette deck.
    yep, dont miss that

    Oh yeah. Get a pencil and rewind that thing to play it again, now with lots of extra special effects. :-)

    i dont either cuz ive never experienced that.


    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to calcmandan on Sun Apr 26 02:15:03 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Sat Apr 25 2020 08:41 pm

    Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.

    It's hella what?

    ... um...

    Yes, audacity is my go-to audio editing suite. I find it to be a fantastic option for a FOSS offering.

    Better?

    I'm familiar with hella.. I just normally see it used like "very", as in "hella awesome", etc.. Seemed like there was a missing word there.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to calcmandan on Sun Apr 26 16:32:00 2020
    On 04-25-20 15:44, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Audacity :) ), once I had obtained a replacement cassette deck. :)

    Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.

    I love how you can edit to the precision of a single sample, if you zoom in close enough - That can create seamless edits that I could only dream of when I was younger and trying to make clean edits with a couple of cassette decks! :)


    ... Death: To stop sinning suddenly.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Sun Apr 26 03:03:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Sat Apr 25 2020 08:41 pm

    Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.

    It's hella what?

    ... um...

    Yes, audacity is my go-to audio editing suite. I find it to be a fantastic option for a FOSS offering.

    Better?

    I'm familiar with hella.. I just normally see it used like "very", as
    in "hella awesome", etc.. Seemed like there was a missing word there.

    Cool. Yeah it can be confusing sometimes.



    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Sun Apr 26 03:04:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-25-20 15:44, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Audacity :) ), once I had obtained a replacement cassette deck. :)

    Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.

    I love how you can edit to the precision of a single sample, if you
    zoom in close enough - That can create seamless edits that I could only dream of when I was younger and trying to make clean edits with a
    couple of cassette decks! :)

    Yeah I was there, especially when making mix tapes for that special girl at school.


    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Nightfox on Sat Apr 25 21:23:39 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Sat Apr 25 2020 05:05 pm

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 25 2020 03:44 pm

    Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.

    It's hella what?

    Nightfox

    LOL! i've been asking my kid this for a few years man. i don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of it.

    ahhhh, hella!!

    |08Paulie|15420
    |15M|08@|15STERM|07i|15ND
    |14AmericanPiBBS|04.com

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AmericanPiBBS.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sun Apr 26 15:42:13 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Apr 21 2020 10:48 pm


    Okay, maybe I'll give that a try. Mine is clearly from shooting guns, going rocks concerts, and playing in very loud bands with insufficient (or no) hearing protection. YOLO. <shrug>

    i probably have it from going to see bands and standing by the speakers and also falling asleep with headphones on and loud music turned up.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to calcmandan on Sun Apr 26 16:58:58 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to MRO on Sat Apr 25 2020 10:59 pm

    hella is something people used to say. like asshat

    As I said in the previous post, you have zero credibility. Hella is quite a

    i have a lifetime of credibility.
    unlike you who crawled out of under some rock.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sun Apr 26 17:05:28 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Vk3jed on Sun Apr 26 2020 12:53 pm

    I love how you can edit to the precision of a single sample, if you zoom close enough - That can create seamless edits that I could only dream of when I was younger and trying to make clean edits with a couple of casset decks! :)

    Yup, and long ago, Cool Edit was the wide-spread free wave editor before Ado bought it.

    yepp cool edit was good back then. i was just going to mention it but i couldnt remember the name. i used to talk to one of the developers via email in the mid 90s. very nice people.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Sun Apr 26 20:52:18 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Apr 26 2020 12:51 pm

    I'm familiar with hella.. I just normally see it used like "very", as
    in "hella awesome", etc.. Seemed like there was a missing word there.

    I think the good/cool/awesome is implied when its unstated.
    "I've heared it said that way." - Karl Childers

    :) I haven't really heard "hella" used a whole lot where I am. I think I've heard the word originated in California?

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Sun Apr 26 20:58:51 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Vk3jed on Sun Apr 26 2020 12:53 pm

    Yup, and long ago, Cool Edit was the wide-spread free wave editor before Adobe bought it.

    Cool Edit rings a bell.. But a long time ago, I started using GoldWave, which is shareware, but I used it often enough that I registered it. I think it was $20 or so. I also use Audacity for some things these days - For cassette recordings, I found Audacity's hiss reduction seemed to be a little better than GoldWave's.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to calcmandan on Mon Apr 27 02:37:54 2020
    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Sun Apr 26 2020 11:15 pm

    :) I haven't really heard "hella" used a whole lot where I am. I
    think I've heard the word originated in California?

    You got it. That's where I live and it's commonly used here. So it comes from habit. I also say things are 'cherry.' People don't say 'rad' anymore, but I do.

    I'm picturing Bill & Ted saying things like "Heinous!", "Bogus!", "non-triumphant!" and such.. Did people actually say those things?

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Mon Apr 27 00:59:00 2020
    Digital Man wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: calcmandan to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2020 11:11 pm

    Yup, and long ago, Cool Edit was the wide-spread free wave editor before Ado bought it.

    yepp cool edit was good back then. i was just going to mention it but i couldnt remember the name. i used to talk to one of the developers via email in the mid 90s. very nice people.

    What did adobe rebrand it to again? I remember seeing it back in the early days and my old from college used the adobe version while producing radio stuff.

    Adobe Audition. I don't see a way to buy it outright today, just the subscription scheme. <shrug>

    Yeah the whole creative cloud nonsense.


    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Tue Apr 28 19:55:00 2020
    Moondog wrote to Android8675 <=-

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Mon Apr 27 2020 11:12 am

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Mon Apr 27 2020 02:37 am

    Shockingly B&T lingo didn't really catch on unless it was used as sarcasim. anta Cruz County. Think Los Gatos to Marin). But talk to surfers for a few m

    Spend enough time with a group and you make up your own lingo. Level of unde --
    Android8675@realitycheckbbs.o r g

    ... Disconnect from desire


    A couple years ago I heard the kids trying to use "Epic" and "Epic
    fail." It sounded forced, not like part of their organic language.

    That's mostly online lingo though. I agree, it wasn't organic but it's still used quite a bit online. I see it everywhere.

    I still use gnarly, totally awesome, excellent, bogus, and refer to
    people as dude. Righteous and most heinous get the point across.

    I say gnarly, awesome, bogus, and call most guys either dude or brother.


    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Wed Apr 29 18:53:00 2020
    On 04-28-20 00:56, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    That's some serious editing. :) I've done some digital audio
    splicing, but not to that level. Though, I have done some programming

    Yeah, I'm picky when I do edits. I rarely get to do it, but when I do, I make sure it's done properly. Even speech gets treated the same. I once setup a home studio for recording interviews for later broadcasting, and that was setup all the way to give me maximum control over the process. I'd even record each side of the conversation in a separate channel, so I could split the audio and apply separate processing (gain, NR, etc), before combining them again into a mono stream.

    Actually, I have a description and sample of that online.

    https://tinyurl.com/y7syajo4

    related to audio recording & mixing multiple audio files together. For
    my senior project in college, I made a simple multi-track audio
    recorder for musicians. I wrote it in C++ for Windows. It would let
    you record invidiual tracks as separate WAV files, and then mix the
    audio together to a single WAV file when you're done. And since then, I've made newer itrations of the WAV mixing code, once in C#, and then
    in C++ again. The newer C++ mixing code, I actually wrote not too long ago, around November/December 2018. One thing I wanted to accomplish
    by writing that again was to write better code, and also to use modern
    C++ features. Also, I thought of a way to mix the audio files a bit faster than I was doing it previously.

    That's pretty cool. I never got anywhere near that level of coding ability. :)


    ... Genius is one per cent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration. --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Wed Apr 29 19:08:00 2020
    On 04-28-20 12:33, Digital Man wrote to Moondog <=-

    Rad.

    That's one I haven't heard for ages! :)


    ... Fotoflagellation - The act of waving a Polaroid so it develops faster.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Wed Apr 29 12:58:00 2020
    Moondog wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Digital Man to Moondog on Tue Apr 28 2020 12:33 pm

    Re: Re: Tape deck
    By: Moondog to Android8675 on Tue Apr 28 2020 12:49 pm

    I still use gnarly, totally awesome, excellent, bogus, and refer to peopl as dude. Righteous and most heinous get the point across.

    Rad.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #11:
    DOVE-Net was originally an exclusive ("elite") WWIVnet network in O.C., Cali Norco, CA WX: 81.8øF, 48.0% humidity, 6 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    Mondo Grande

    Now that's a new one to me.


    ... Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com