Re: Re: This strange world
By: MRO to Underminer on Sat Aug 01 2020 12:16 pm

they want to do subscription models because they want that money to keep rolling in. some of these cheap ass companies are running 20 year or older shit and still expecting support for it.

I don't trust any multinational trillion dollar company. I just do my best to support the ones that rip me off the least.

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Re: Re: This strange world
By: MRO to Underminer on Sat Aug 01 2020 12:16 pm

they want to do subscription models because they want that money to keep rolling in. some of these cheap ass companies are running 20 year or older shit and still expecting support for it.

I don't trust any multinational trillion dollar company. I just
do my best to support the ones that rip me off the least.

And you include Micro$haft in that category...? LOL


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Re: Re: Microsoft, trustworthy?
By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Sat Aug 01 2020 10:16 pm

I don't trust any multinational trillion dollar company. I just
do my best to support the ones that rip me off the least.

And you include Micro$haft in that category...? LOL

I understand what you are saying, but what computer companies do you think rip you off less than Microsoft?

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Re: Re: Microsoft, trustworthy?
By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Sat Aug 01 2020 10:16 pm

I don't trust any multinational trillion dollar company. I just
do my best to support the ones that rip me off the least.

And you include Micro$haft in that category...? LOL

I understand what you are saying, but what computer companies do
you think rip you off less than Microsoft?

Well, I guess I can't name any, largely because I don't deal with
any "computer companies". I am 100% Linux and use only free /
open-source software.

Also my above comment probably included my (admittedly biased)
view that besides over-pricing their products, MS also tends to
"phone home" / spy on it's users quite a bit, and that is a big
no-no to me.



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Re: Re: Microsoft, trustworthy?
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Sun Aug 02 2020 07:43 am

I don't trust any multinational trillion dollar company. I just
do my best to support the ones that rip me off the least.

And you include Micro$haft in that category...? LOL

I understand what you are saying, but what computer companies do
you think rip you off less than Microsoft?

Well, I guess I can't name any, largely because I don't deal with
any "computer companies". I am 100% Linux and use only free /
open-source software.

It is funny you say that. Linux is actually a corporative product.

Just have a look at who is providing code and funding. Even minority unices like OpenBSD get huge injections of funding from big corporations such as Microsoft.

Oracle used to be the biggest GPL licensor in the world and I think it still is.


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Re: Re: Microsoft, trustworthy?
By: Arelor to Gamgee on Sun Aug 02 2020 09:03 am

Re: Re: Microsoft, trustworthy?
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Sun Aug 02 2020 07:43 am

I don't trust any multinational trillion dollar company. I just
do my best to support the ones that rip me off the least.

And you include Micro$haft in that category...? LOL

I understand what you are saying, but what computer companies do
you think rip you off less than Microsoft?

Well, I guess I can't name any, largely because I don't deal with
any "computer companies". I am 100% Linux and use only free / open-source software.

It is funny you say that. Linux is actually a corporative product.

Just have a look at who is providing code and funding. Even minority unices like OpenBSD get huge injections of funding from big corporations such as Microsoft.

Oracle used to be the biggest GPL licensor in the world and I think it still is.

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I think this is missing the point slightly, while it's true that the Linux Foundation is taking shitloads of cash from corporations that may or may not steer the development of the kernel their way (it probably is). You're still not dealing with "computer companies" the same way that you'd have to deal with them should you run Windows or Microsoft Office. The Free Software nature of the kernel allows freedom for other people to use and develop their own offshoots of the current mainline kernel should they wish (the same applies to *BSD) without any intervention from these "computer companies".
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Re: Re: Microsoft, trustworthy?
By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Sat Aug 01 2020 10:16 pm

And you include Micro$haft in that category...? LOL

Windows 10 was pre-installed when I purchased my laptop... I didn't purchase the serial key seperately and I will not be purchasing any of their applications in the meantime.

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Re: Re: Microsoft, trustworthy?
By: Atroxi to Arelor on Sun Aug 02 2020 09:44 am

Foundation is taking shitloads of cash from corporations that may or may not steer the development of the kernel their way (it probably is). You're to deal with them should you run Windows or Microsoft Office. The Free Software nature of the kernel allows freedom for other people to use and develop their own offshoots of the current mainline kernel should they

Precisely. You or I can submit a change to the Kernel and have a relatively good chance it'll be picked up - no chance of that with Microsoft or other actual companies. And if we really don't like the direction things are going, forking happens all the time on projects in the free sphere.
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Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

I don't trust any multinational trillion dollar company. I just
do my best to support the ones that rip me off the least.

And you include Micro$haft in that category...? LOL

I understand what you are saying, but what computer companies do
you think rip you off less than Microsoft?

Well, I guess I can't name any, largely because I don't deal with
any "computer companies". I am 100% Linux and use only free /
open-source software.

It is funny you say that. Linux is actually a corporative
product.

Just have a look at who is providing code and funding. Even
minority unices like OpenBSD get huge injections of funding from
big corporations such as Microsoft.

Oracle used to be the biggest GPL licensor in the world and I
think it still is.

Yeah, that may all be true, but I don't see it as the same thing.
It's not like MS dictating to me when/how I will apply OS updates,
whether I want to or not. It's not like MS charging me hundreds
of dollars for the privilege of renting their software for a
while. It's not like being a slave to antivirus software hassling
me and slowing down my computer. It's not like Windoze software
throwing a glitch and locking my computer (or BSOD'ing), with no
way for me to know why it happened or how to prevent it happening
in the future. You get the idea...



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