I think with the stupid rules about banning vpns, digital ids and other garbage. Maybe bbsing might have a return as a tool for us to communicate in the future.
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Re: the future
By: Utopian Galt to All on Thu Nov 13 2025 03:00 pm

I think with the stupid rules about banning vpns, digital ids and other garbage. Maybe bbsing might have a return as a tool for us to communicate in the future.

I just did a Google search and I see an article from today saying lawmakers in some US states want to ban VPNs. I doubt that would succeed, since VPNs have legitimate use cases - A common one is that companies often use VPNs to allow people at several of their sites to basically be on the same network. There is stand-alone VPN software, but Windows itself also has built-in support for VPNs. People also use VPNs for privacy, which I think is a legitimate use case; also, some people like to use VPNs to get content from streaming services that's normally only available in other countries.

I've heard some governments like China have banned VPNs, but they do it for reasons that I don't think is something the US would do.

Nightfox

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Re: the future
By: Nightfox to Utopian Galt on Thu Nov 13 2025 04:00 pm

I've heard some governments like China have banned VPNs, but they do

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Re: the future
By: Nightfox to Utopian Galt on Thu Nov 13 2025 04:00 pm

legitimate use cases - A common one is that companies often use VPNs to allo people at several of their sites to basically be on the same network. There stand-alone VPN software, but Windows itself also has built-in support for VPNs. People also use VPNs for privacy, which I think is a legitimate use

More than likely they are talking about banning public VPN services sold by companies vs VPN functionality that you would use with your own networks and software like you're describing here. While they're both technically utilizing virtual private networking, they are practically/effectively doing different things. VPN services allow you to bypass network rules and restrictions, while personally set up VPNs allow you to actually access private networks like the name implies.

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legitimate use cases - A common one is that companies often use VPNs to allo >> people at several of their sites to basically be on the same network. There >> stand-alone VPN software, but Windows itself also has built-in support for >> VPNs. People also use VPNs for privacy, which I think is a legitimate use

More than likely they are talking about banning public VPN services sold by companies vs VPN functionality that you would use with your own networks and software like you're describing here. While they're both technically utilizing
virtual private networking, they are practically/effectively doing different things. VPN services allow you to bypass network rules and restrictions, while
personally set up VPNs allow you to actually access private networks like the name implies.

You are correct. Most of what I have read involves controling, or banning,
VPN services so that citizens cannot bypass restrictions -- age and
identity checking, location checking, social media site bans, etc.
Michigan and, IIRC, Wisconsin are considering it. Some European countries
are considering controls, too, so it is no longer just China, North Korean,
and several theocratic countries that are attempting it any more. I find
that worrisome. :(


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Re: the future
By: Utopian Galt to Nightfox on Thu Nov 13 2025 05:36 pm

I've heard some governments like China have banned VPNs, but they do

You quoted part of my message, but I don't see a response..

Nightfox

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