It's been over 25 years since I first logged onto this BBS, when DM had a 1-800 number and I could log in from the east coast.
It's funny how the people that told me about dial-up BBS's weren't interested when I told them that BBS's could be accesed via telnet ssh.
It's been over 25 years since I first logged onto this BBS, when DM had a 1-800 number and I could log in from the east coast.
It will take me a bit to get used to the messaging again, for some reason i can't figure out how to keep the original message when im replying.
I recieved alot of help here learning Slackware from a user named The Lion. Now that I'm retired/disabled i'll have alot of time on my hands.
Re: Good to be back
By: Bogomips to All on Tue Feb 25 2025 05:15 am
It's been over 25 years since I first logged onto this BBS, when DM had a 1-800
number
and I could log in from the east coast.
I don't remember having a 1-800 number, but welcome back just the same!
I thought I dialed into your BBS before you made it accesible via telnet.
Either way, I'm glad to be active again.
Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to Bogomips on Tue Feb 25 2025 07:52 pm
thanks
It's funny how the people that told me about dial-up BBS's weren't interested when I told them that BBS's could be accesed via telnet ssh.
Re: Good to be back
By: Bogomips to All on Tue Feb 25 2025 05:15 am
It's funny how the people that told me about dial-up BBS's weren't interested when I told them that BBS's could be accesed via telnet ssh.
I have also found this to be true. Seems like a lot of my sysop buds
from
the 80's don't want anything to do with BBSes anymore.
we just have the nostalgia jerk offs who come and go and the sysops visiting sysops thing.
people prefer facebook, instagram, snapchat or stuff like that.
i prefer telegram, so i can't blame them.
Bf2k+ wrote to Bogomips <=-
I have also found this to be true. Seems like a lot of my sysop buds from the 80's don't want anything to do with BBSes anymore.
Re: Good to be back
By: Bogomips to MRO on Wed Feb 26 2025 05:14 am
Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to Bogomips on Tue Feb 25 2025 07:52 pm
thanks
did you try quoting
Re: Good to be back
By: Bogomips to All on Tue Feb 25 2025 05:15 am
It's funny how the people that told me about dial-up BBS's weren't interested when
I
told them that BBS's could be accesed via telnet ssh.
I have also found this to be true. Seems like a lot of my sysop buds from the 80's
don't want anything to do with BBSes anymore.
I don't remember having a 1-800 number, but welcome back just the same!
I thought I dialed into your BBS before you made it accesible via telnet.
Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to Bogomips on Tue Feb 25 2025 07:52 pm
thanks
did you try quoting
I thought I did at first, but then I read the menu again, and tried select all, and it works. Thanks again.
I have also found this to be true. Seems like a lot of my sysop buds from the 80's don't want anything to do with BBSes anymore.
Maybe the sysops just didn't want to re-configure something they didn't understand?
For me it was a guy i worked with and i just didn't understand why that logging on differently would matter.
it's a weird thing. i got in touch with some sysops from my local area and we were SUPER tight back then. they didn't want anything to do with eachother or me. they were done with bbsing.
people left bbsing behind for good. there's other things they'd rather
do.
I don't remember having a 1-800 number, but welcome back just the same!
I thought I dialed into your BBS before you made it accesible via telnet.
He might not have had an 800 number, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one forwarding
to
his BBS ;).
there ya go! you're doing it!did you try quotingI thought I did at first, but then I read the menu again, and tried select all, and
it
works. Thanks again.
people left bbsing behind for good. there's other things they'd rather do.
I have also found this to be true. Seems like a lot of my sysop buds from
the 80's don't want anything to do with BBSes anymore.
Maybe the sysops just didn't want to re-configure something they didn't understand?
dude i spent so much time and money
into getting old bbs people back
into
the hobby. After many years, i know
it
will never happen. the most they
will
do is speak about the old days. i
ran
so many sites, i bought so many ads
for
people's bbses and i've done all
kinds
of shit.
we just have the nostalgia jerk offs
who come and go and the sysops
visiting
sysops thing.
people prefer facebook, instagram,
snapchat or stuff like that.
i prefer telegram, so i can't blame
them.
I know for myself, I find most of the other things to be "life stealers". I'm almost to the point that I wouldn't mind going back to a flip phone, almost.
Yep.. one of my friends came over here a couple of months ago for me to help him with the firmware on his nautical GPS (because I had a few old pentiums running Win XP).
He was very involved in the development of the old Atari BBS:Express systems and did some cool stuff. He was not even interested is seeing my BBS stuff or either of my current BBSes. I found that a a little odd... in light of the fact that he was so involved before.
Yes, I've had that experience too. In two years of work, I brought a 40-year-old C64 BBS from Hamburg back online. Most people just come in to say hello, register as a new user, and then you never see them again. They just want a quick nostalgia flash. Am I disappointed because of that? Yes and no. On one hand, it's a shame we no longer have the traffic from 1985. The BBS heyday is simply over. Not very surprising.
Hi Mro,
In a message to Bogomips you wrote:
people left bbsing behind for good. there's other things they'd rather do.
I didn't think I'd shut my system down, but when I realized I was just running it for myself it was an easy decision.
I'm much happier just using my current setup, tossing QWK packets into squish bases.
But yeah, other then over coffee in the morning before work I don't think about this hobby anymore, as you said lots of things I'd rather do.
Shawn
Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to Bogomips on Fri Feb 28 2025 02:25 am
people left bbsing behind for good. there's other things they'd rather do.
I know for myself, I find most of the other things to be "life stealers". I'm almost to the point that I wouldn't mind going back to a flip phone, almost.
They may no longer have PCs. A lot of people only use their phones or tablets at home. Most of my siblings, who used to have PCs, don't use PCs at all anymore except at work.
So yeah, I'm off Facebook, I'm off Twitter, or X or whatever it is now, I'm off Instagram; you name it, I'm off it. And I don't think I've ever gone ON TikTok.
Thanks for that little dose of reality.
They may no longer have PCs. A lot of people only use their phones or tablets at home. Most of my siblings, who used to have PCs, don't use PCs at all anymore except at work.
They may no longer have PCs. A lot of people only use their phones or tablets at home. Most of my siblings, who used to have PCs, don't use PCs at all anymore except at work.
Thats a damn shame. I cannot stand using my phone for anything. Its a pain in the ass.
I've also seen a number of people who sign up and visit just once and never again. Or maybe they'll play a door game like LORD for a little
bit and then stop.
During the BBS heyday, BBSes and dialup modems was the technology we had at the time. I think most people probably don't care as much about the technology, but more about there being ways of connecting online in general somewhere, and being easy to do so.
I still think BBSing is pretty cool though, and it was pretty cool that
we had modems, which allowed computers to communicate with each other
over phone lines, which enabled a lot of things. And as others have
said, there is significantly less spam & ads on BBSes compared to social networks, which is nice.
They may no longer have PCs. A lot of people only use their phones or tablets at home. Most of my siblings, who used to have PCs, don't use at all anymore except at work.
Thats a damn shame. I cannot stand using my phone for anything. Its a pain in the ass.
so that's why it's all up. i still have my irc up even though it's a small group of friends and i think bridging it with telegram was a
good move.
i'm used to having a community. What we have left is not that. it's
fine if people like what they have but i don't agree. it's not that i
Hopefully the users come back, but I think they're gone for good.
for little toddlers for learning devices but from what i've seen
people aren't big tablet users anymore. our phones are so big it's
like we have tablets.
i think it's laptops and phones for most people nowadays.
Dumas Walker wrote to BOGOMIPS <=-
They may no longer have PCs. A lot of people only use their phones or tablets at home. Most of my siblings, who used to have PCs, don't use
PCs at all anymore except at work.
Toadster wrote to Bogomips <=-
So yeah, I'm off Facebook, I'm off Twitter, or X or whatever it is now, I'm off Instagram; you name it, I'm off it. And I don't think I've ever gone ON TikTok.
I think TikTok is the only social media I can trust these days. It's an odd world we live in.
time. I think most people probably
don't care as much about the
technology, but more about there
being
ways of connecting online in general
somewhere, and being easy to do so.
I still think BBSing is pretty cool
though, and it was pretty cool that
we
had modems, which allowed computers
to
communicate with each other over
phone
lines, which enabled a lot of
things.
And as others have said, there is
significantly less spam & ads on
BBSes
compared to social networks, which
is
nice.
are tablets even popular anymore? I can understand them being popular for little toddlers for learning devices but from what i've seen people aren't big
tablet users anymore. our phones are so big it's like we have tablets.
i think it's laptops and phones for most people nowadays.
They may no longer have PCs. A lot of people only use their phones or tablets at home. Most of my siblings, who used to have PCs, don't use PCs at all anymore except at work.
One of my friends, years later, was running a Dec Alpha system with a
MIPS RISC chip, back from when Microsoft supported it with NT. I think
it was running NT Server 3.51? He had IIS running on it and used it as a desktop...
Another caller had an IBM RS/6000 system he still used as a desktop.
Those are some serious computer users. There are folks like that in the FSX Retro echo, too. Your average person, and people who moved away from the BB hobby, probably didn't keep up with the old tech.
I know for myself, I find most of the other things to be "life stealers". I'm almost to the point that I wouldn't mind going back to a flip phone, almost.
are tablets even popular anymore? I can understand them being popular for little toddlers for learning devices but from what i've seen people aren't big tablet users anymore. our phones are so big it's like we have tablets.
pain in the ass.
yeah, doing any real work on a cellphone is dreadful.. especially using SSH from remote to try to diagnose some problem while you're supposed to be on vacation..
Hopefully the users come back, but I think they're gone for good.
When musk cuts the rest of the world off the 'merican internet possibly BBS's will make a come back.
Shawn
flip phone that is supported enough I can use it for sending money to co workers at luch, and for running the stupid auth program for work stuff.
I gave the company phone back and chose to install auth on mine because I didn't want to feel bad about ignoring phone calls on the work one. :)
Shawn
have tablets.
I don't see much people using tablets at all. Usually it is just sales people, because tablets allow them to show you cataloges and product sheet from a big screen, voiding the need of carrying paperbacks and the need of carrying a full laptop.
Other than that I don't see any tablet use anymore. Even the people who used them for reading pirated books has switched to ereaders.
--
Other than that I don't see any tablet use anymore. Even the people who used them for reading pirated books has switched to ereaders.
I always wanted an old Sun at home - a Sparc 2 like I'd had at work, a Sparcstation LX, or an old Sun 3. It might be nice to pretend like it's 1995 again, and that Javascript, HTML emails and phishing scams don't exist.
are tablets even popular anymore? I can understand them
being popular for little toddlers for learning devices but
from what i've seen people aren't big tablet users anymore.
our phones are so big it's like we have tablets.
I don't see much people using tablets at all. Usually it is
just sales people, because tablets allow them to show you
cataloges and product sheet from a big screen, voiding the
need of carrying paperbacks and the need of carrying a full
laptop.
Other than that I don't see any tablet use anymore. Even
the people who used them for reading pirated books has
switched to ereaders. --
I still think BBSing is pretty cool though, and it was pretty cool that we had modems, which
allowed computers to communicate with each other over phone lines, which enabled a lot of things.
And as others have said, there is significantly less spam & ads on BBSes compared to social
networks, which is nice.
Other than that I don't see any tablet use anymore. Even the people who used > them for reading pirated books has switched to ereaders.
Re: Good to be back
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Mar 02 2025 03:40 am
Other than that I don't see any tablet use anymore. Even the people who used
them for reading pirated books has switched to ereaders.
Just got a little chuckle from me as I sit here reading this on my tablet. :-) It's pretty much my main "sit around in the evening, wasting time" device. Smartphones are too small, laptops are too heavy. Most everything I need or dois on my tablet. I'm telnetting in to the bbs with the MuffinTerm app.
they were probably using the company phone to spy on you.
i had a company phone and i had it turned off to charge because the
battery sucks. that fucker would turn itself on. i wonder if the
guy was bored and he heard the woman talking and was trying to spy on
her.
Maybe the sysops just didn't want to re-configure something they didn't understand?
They may no longer have PCs. A lot of people only use their phones or tablets at home. Most of my siblings, who used to have PCs, don't use PCs at all anymore except at work.
So yeah, I'm off Facebook, I'm off Twitter, or X or whatever it is now, I'm off
Instagram; you name it, I'm off it. And I don't think I've ever gone ON TikTok.
Thanks for that little dose of reality.
to the point that I wouldn't mind going back to a flip phone, almost.
you are the person who is putting the time into that stuff, nobody is forcing you. I
like having a smart phone. it's been very helpful.
By "ereaders", do you mean dedicated devices? I always thought e-readers also included apps you could install for tablets & other devices.
My God, I used a Commodore 300 baud
for
ages and drove 125 miles to my
closest
KMart when the 1200 baud came out. I
couldn't believe my luck. That was
the
LONGEST drive home I'd ever had.
Couldn't wait to quadruple my
on-line
speed. :-)
I started with a 300 baud DIY acoustic
coupler in 1985 on the C64. And then,
I believe, I quickly got a Dataphon
S21-23d which could achieve an
incredible 1200 baud. However, it was
only half-duplex, meaning it could
receive at 1200 but send at only 75
baud. By the way, this was also the
BTX standard here in Germany
(Bildschirmtext - nobody really
needed it, but it was kind of cool).
It's been over 25 years since I first logged onto this BBS, when DM had a 1-800 number and I could log in from the east coast.
I feel the same. My first BBS was The Hairbal on a C64 in Vegas, then moved to Minden NV and the Hairball went on a 8086 with Tribbs. Got out of the BBS game when the internet or AOL took away all my users. Started up another one with SBBS in the early 2k then issues happened and it went offline. But I'm back building another one hopefully for good this time.
I really wish I could get my old artwork and menus back. Wish I saved those files.
MRO wrote to Jason Arnold <=-
I feel the same. My first BBS was The Hairbal on a C64 in Vegas, then moved to Minden NV and the Hairball went on a 8086 with Tribbs. Got out of the BBS game when the internet or AOL took away all my users. Started up another one with SBBS in the early 2k then issues happened and it went offline. But I'm back building another one hopefully for good this time.
I really wish I could get my old artwork and menus back. Wish I saved those files.
so why do you want to setup a bbs again.
do you know we don't really get callers anymore.
hollowone wrote to Snobsoft <=-
I though 14400 was slow then... but you beat my patience by far if you stood up to 1200. I presume delay on just simple ASCII typing and text receiving was a norm then.. can't even imagine how could you share something more than simple messages at that speed.
do you know we don't really get callers anymore.
Maybe *YOU* don't. It's not like it was in the 90's, but there are
still callers.
I started with a 300 baud DIY acoustic
coupler in 1985 on the C64. And then,
You guys are talking about history far beyond my generation ;)
I started shortly with modem to have dialup for the internet in the mid 90s.
You guys are talking about history
far
beyond my generation ;)
I started shortly with modem to have
dialup for the internet in the mid
90s.
I though 14400 was slow then... but
you
beat my patience by far if you stood
up
to 1200. I presume delay on just
simple
ASCII typing and text receiving was
a
norm then.. can't even imagine how
could you share something more than
simple messages at that speed.
I presume all that was before people
invented files could be shared?
the relay person has to say "don't call again, ever, <name> is grounded! you a bad influence!" and then they have to tell you the other party hung up lol
Hehe - 1200 Baud? You speedy racer -
if you want a real patience test,
log in to the snail mail Snobsoft
at 300 Baud:
telnet://snobsoft.de:6401.
In short - some things were better
back then.
I believe there was already modem
swapping in mid 80s, even across the big pond for C64 games, for
example. You had to have patience and someone
else who paid the extremely high
phone bill :D But good hackers
could achieve such things back
then.
300 baud was about the speed you could read text on the screen. No offline readers, minimal graphics. It sorta worked. Most message editors were line editors, meaning you didn't have screen re-writes.
1200 baud seemed like heaven, and 2400 baud was where I started seeing full screen editors and graphics.
Sharing files was painful, I remember downloading a C compiler overnight. Surprised I had the credits and could keep the line up that long!
"300 baud is reading speed. Why would you need faster than that?" ;)
Hehe - 1200 Baud? You speedy
racer
-
if you want a real patience
test,
log in to the snail mail
Snobsoft
at 300 Baud:
telnet://snobsoft.de:6401.
Oh gosh.. thanks! I'll do so.. when
I
secure enough free time :D
BF2K+ wrote to BOGOMIPS <=-Many people have a fear of the command line interface and 16 colors.
I have also found this to be true. Seems like a lot of my sysop buds from the 80's don't want anything to do with BBSes anymore.
Matthew Munson wrote to BF2K+ <=-
I have also found this to be true. Seems like a lot of my sysop buds from the 80's don't want anything to do with BBSes anymore.
Many people have a fear of the command line interface and 16 colors.
Great, check this out...
How to post on Snobsoft:
https://quipzz.bplaced.net/how_to_post.txt
I though 14400 was slow then... but you beat my patience by far if you stood up to 1200. I presume delay on just simple ASCII typing and text receiving was a norm then.. can't even imagine how could you share something more than simple messages at that speed.
Maybe *YOU* don't. It's not like it was in the 90's, but there are still callers.
You got David Murray on your board nice. I have X16 myself but keep failing
Ya that's right. I get oh.. about.. oh 1000 callers a day, mostly from China, a d I'm sure they're all entertained by the 8 or 9 doors that everyone else does.
Mickey wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Mar 06 2025 08:04:52
Maybe *YOU* don't. It's not like it was in the 90's, but there are still callers.
Ya that's right. I get oh.. about.. oh 1000 callers a day, mostly from China, and I'm sure they're all entertained by the 8 or 9 doors that everyone else does.
Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Mickey to Gamgee on Sun Mar 09 2025 07:40 pm
1000 a day? Real callers? Some days I might get 1000 connections which are bots connecting quickly..
Great, check this out...
How to post on Snobsoft:
https://quipzz.bplaced.net/how_
to_
post.txt
Thanks for the hint. I just tried
and I
was worried it may be worse.
Not that bad experience actually.
Reminds me one of the Atari 8bit
board
regarding speed.
You got David Murray on your board
nice. I have X16 myself but keep
failing to connect it online with
Kevin
Williams' ESP32 based networking
card.
Anyway, Danke Schoen! [can't type
umlaut on my keyboard]
<cut>
In short - some things were
better
back then.
Agreed, and I think we were moreHere in Germany, there were never any
capable of self-regulating.
I remember when I started being
online
one of the first thing I discovered
was
the power of netiquette.
I believe there was already
modem
swapping in mid 80s, even
across
the big pond for C64 games, for
example. You had to have
patience
and someone
else who paid the extremely
high
phone bill :D But good hackers
could achieve such things back
then.
So I heard, I think all the blue boxYes, when it comes to pirate stuff,
and other phreaking/free calls was
primarily demanded by the need to
pirate for less phone bill call than
5
mins phone call order, payment and
shipment for the physical product.
Ah, that was you. I was about to
call you, 'Don't panic, hier ist der
sysop,' but you were already gone.
In any case, it's nice that you found
your way around. And thank you very
much for the new user entry. Feel
free to post something the next time
you log in. English is welcome.
Here in Germany, there were never any
problems with censorship in the 1980s
and early 90s. Hey, we live in a
democracy.
I believe you in the USA currently
have much more freedom of speech
than we do in Germany.
Re: Good to be back
By: Snobsoft to MRO on Fri Feb 28 2025 09:32 am
I've also seen a number of people who sign up and visit just once and never again. Or maybe they'll play a door game like LORD for a little bit and then stop.
During the BBS heyday, BBSes and dialup modems was the technology we had at the time. I think most people probably don't care as much about the technology, but more about there being ways of connecting online in general somewhere, and being easy to do so.
I still think BBSing is pretty cool though, and it was pretty cool that we had modems, which allowed computers to communicate with each other over phone lines, which enabled a lot of things. And as others have said, there is significantly less spam & ads on BBSes compared to social networks, which is nice.
Nightfox
---
Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
Same here. I have an average of 6 calls per day. Someone downloads messages via NNTP several times a week, a few file transfers during the week, a couple local messages posted per week, and LORD and TEOS are the dominant doors being played. I enjoy playing scrabble daily via my BBS and 2 other boards. I think late 2001 is when I ended dial up and took board from power BBS to synchronet and telnet. Some of my regular users have been with my BBS since the late 80s. For a few years I just ran the BBS for messages and got back into door's more recently. I enjoy reading these message boards a lot. Thank you all for still being here.
Re: Good to be back
By: Rixter to Nightfox on Wed Mar 12 2025 02:37:22
Hi, Rixter.
Same here. I have an average of 6 calls per day. Someone downloads messag via NNTP several times a week, a few file transfers during the week, a couple local messages posted per week, and LORD and TEOS are the dominant doors being played. I enjoy playing scrabble daily via my BBS and 2 other boards. I think late 2001 is when I ended dial up and took board from pow BBS to synchronet and telnet. Some of my regular users have been with my since the late 80s. For a few years I just ran the BBS for messages and g back into door's more recently. I enjoy reading these message boards a l Thank you all for still being here.
Yeah, I know not that many people use BBS but that's half the appeal for me. It's very "intimate".
In fact when I go on MRC and there are more than half a dozen people I find a bit much and usually bail out :)
BobW
| Sysop: | Coz |
|---|---|
| Location: | Anoka, MN |
| Users: | 2 |
| Nodes: | 4 (0 / 4) |
| Uptime: | 27:58:51 |
| Calls: | 300 |
| Calls today: | 2 |
| Files: | 5,642 |
| Messages: | 226,668 |