James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

$ The Millionaire $

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Re: James Bond update
By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Sep 06 2020 07:01 pm

2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

And?

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Re: James Bond update
By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Sep 06 2020 07:01 pm

And?

Nightfox

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I just wrote the whole info in one sentence.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 06 2020 10:39 pm

The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

November 25 is quite a bit more than 2 months ahead.

Also - nobody cares.

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I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of films from beloved franchises.

Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

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Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of films from beloved franchises.

Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

So let me join the "Nobody cares" chir.

"Nobody cares! Nobody cares! Nobody cares!"

How's that for a choir?

But I completely agree: Hollywood and the Woke morons have completely destroyed many old series.

In related news: I just heard that Disney's live remake of Mulan has flopped so hard that the earthquake detectors felt it.
Just another casuality of over-long copyrights and Woke Morons. Couldn't happen to a nicer company (after they ruined
Star Trek, Star Wars, etc.).


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Well if things don't get better in Hollywood, then it's the end of the
movie industry.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 09:19 am

Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 07 2020 04:02 am

Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 06 2020 10:39 pm

The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

James Bond: No Time To Die will be delayed until November 25, 2020.

2 more months till the new James Bond is released.

November 25 is quite a bit more than 2 months ahead.

Also - nobody cares.

... Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?

I remember there was a time when I would get excited for the release of f from beloved franchises.

Now I have realized recent releases are total crap and I am not excited anymore.

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I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films. Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure of the old Bond films, I could like them.

Same here.

It is not that I dislike Daniel Craig, but plot wise they were no good. Also, the one with Bardem... I don't know what happens with Bardem, but every time he pops up in a film it is a film I don't get to like.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Mon Sep 07 2020 12:02 pm

crappy movies nowadays. These are a list of movies I've seen that
weren't that great in the past few years:

Bill And Ted Face The Music

I saw the new Bill & Ted movie, and I think those are the type of movies you just have to take them for what it's worth. I enjoyed it. I thought it was about what you could expect from them.

It was cheesy. it was campy. it was funny. Exactly what you would expect for that kind of film, and judging it on those merits, it is a quality production for that genre.

It's like judging a breed of dog. You don't judge a rottweiler against a lhasa apso. You judge them against their category, and how well they stand out against films in that category.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Sep 07 2020 01:09 pm

IMOO the excellent adventure was the best one of all.

Why?

What was better about it?



FFS, expand upon your posts. go into detail.

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Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

And?

I just wrote the whole info in one sentence.

I was just wondering if you had anything else to say about it.
There must be some reason you're announcing a movie release to
everyone on Dove-Net?

1. He thinks he's providing some kind of a "valuable service"
to others by doing it (as if only he is privy to such secret
information).

2. He just likes to hear himself talk.

I honestly don't know which is correct.


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The Millionaire wrote to Dr. What <=-

Well if things don't get better in Hollywood, then it's the end
of the movie industry.

Hopefully!



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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Dr. What to Arelor on Mon Sep 07 2020 03:30 pm

But I completely agree: Hollywood and the Woke morons have completely destroyed many old series.

In related news: I just heard that Disney's live remake of Mulan has flopped hard that the earthquake detectors felt it.
Just another casuality of over-long copyrights and Woke Morons. Couldn't happen to a nicer company (after they ruined
Star Trek, Star Wars, etc.).

Yu know, I was sent a prank message that read: "This is what the new
inclusive live version of Mulan looks like!"

The message featured a picture of a big, muscled black dude. It had a caption that said: Mulano.

And yes I have heard it went so bad they are releasing it for free on Disney+ hahaha. Actually a bit sad since it had Donnin Yen (whose kung-fu is always fun to watch) and that hot chick from The Forbidden Kingdom.

I dind't know Disney had Borged Star Trek too. It makes sense. The last I watched had a very PC vibe to it. "We are not military, we are explorers!". Jeeeeeeeesus, that is why Enterprise had shields and a shitton of photonic torpedos and phasers, because they were a pleassure yatch.


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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: The Millionaire to DaiTengu on Mon Sep 07 2020 08:42 pm

Why?

What was better about it?

FFS, expand upon your posts. go into detail.

Better storyline, better jokes, better acting, better directing.

Alex Winter has been out of the acting game for decades, but I thought he did a spot-on job of playing Bill, just like he did 30 years ago. Keanu was Keanu, and it was great. He Keanu'd the heck out of that role.

The characters are supposed to be dumb, cheesy, and somewhat poorly acted.

Brigette Lundy-Paine and Samara Weaving did bang-up jobs as Bill and Ted's daughters (respectively). They managed to take on the aspects of their respective parents, but not become gender-bent charicatures of them.

I thought Dean Pariscot did an excellent job directing. He also directed Galaxy Quest, which is one of my favorite all-time films.

All in all, I was not disapointed in the least.

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On 9/7/2020 6:19 AM, Moondog wrote:

I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films. Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure of the old Bond films, I could like them.

They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular.

I'm not sure how I'm going to feel about the next one, if it's anything
like the latest Dr. Who has been, I won't be watching the followups.

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The Millionaire wrote to Dr. What <=-

Well if things don't get better in Hollywood, then it's the end of the movie industry.

It's already happening.

1. Poor content.
2. COVID closed theaters for a while.
3. Streaming platforms getting political and removing content that the mob doesn't like - which tends to piss off people who have money to pay for such services.

I haven't seen a movie in a theater in over a year.
The TV's been off since April.

I don't feel like I've missed anything.


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Arelor wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yu know, I was sent a prank message that read: "This is what the new inclusive live version of Mulan looks like!"

The message featured a picture of a big, muscled black dude. It had a caption that said: Mulano.

Good one!

And yes I have heard it went so bad they are releasing it for free on Disney+ hahaha. Actually a bit sad since it had Donnin Yen (whose
kung-fu is always fun to watch) and that hot chick from The Forbidden Kingdom.

Aw. Man. Now I *want* to watch Mulan. I love the old Donnie Yen movies and
I enjoyed Forbidden Kingdom.

But it's probably for the best that I don't watch it. I don't want to taint
my memories of the actors when I watch their good movies.

I dind't know Disney had Borged Star Trek too. It makes sense. The last
I watched had a very PC vibe to it. "We are not military, we are explorers!". Jeeeeeeeesus, that is why Enterprise had shields and a shitton of photonic torpedos and phasers, because they were a pleassure yatch.

Ya, Star Trek was supposed to have that Heinlein vibe. They were explorers, but they needed military disipline to not die in space.

But the PC crowd doesn't like the ideas of discipline (well, not in *this* context) and self-control.


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On 9/9/2020 8:22 AM, Nightfox wrote:

I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films.
Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure
of the old Bond films, I could like them.

They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular.

I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't remember if I've seen his Bond movies though - maybe just parts. My favorite was Pierse Brosnan.

Brosnan was okay. "No, no, no. No more forplay." I still prefer Craig.

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On 9/9/2020 8:56 AM, DaiTengu wrote:

1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.
2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was
definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World" series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what
they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fold.

I actually enjoyed the Kelvin movies. That said, "The Orville" feels
more like Star Trek than anything coming out of Paramount or CBS lately.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:48 pm

On 9/9/2020 8:22 AM, Nightfox wrote:

I haven't been impressed that much by the Daniel Craig Bond films.
Maybe if I hadn't become so adjusted to the slightly campy adventure
of the old Bond films, I could like them.

They're actually my favorite... I was never much into the campiness of
the older ones. I hated most of the Roger Moore bond movies in particular

I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't remember I've seen his Bond movies though - maybe just parts. My favorite was Pier Brosnan.

Brosnan was okay. "No, no, no. No more forplay." I still prefer Craig.

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I liked Brosnan for the role too. And he did some great films too.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: DaiTengu to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 09 2020 04:20 pm

Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:54 pm

On 9/9/2020 8:56 AM, DaiTengu wrote:

1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.
2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are
you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action
flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long
giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fol

I think Discovery and Picard's "feel" has more to do with how television i consumed now days. Deep Space Nine really pioneered the whole serialized st thing, Enterprise ramped it up a bit, but now with streaming services and binge-watching, all anyone cares about is serialized shows. Things like Bla Mirror stand out partially because they're stand-alone stories.

I'm really digging Lower Decks. It's smart, funny, and definitely has a TNG feel to it.

DaiTengu

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I don't know, I think there is a lot of room for standalones. My Little Pony FiM, for example, was very successful and, while it features a metaplot, its episodes are... episodic in nature.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:48 pm

Brosnan was okay. "No, no, no. No more forplay." I still prefer Craig.

Favorite Craig flick? I really enjoyed Casino Royale, the poker scene was well done. I live for that stuff.

I've always been a Q fan as well, the new Quartermaster I think is amazingly played. I really can't wait for this film. I've always had a soft spot for James Bond flicks.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 09 2020 12:54 pm

Discovery doesn't really "feel" like Star Trek to me. Season 2 was definitely an improvement, and I do hope they make the "Brave New World" series with Pike. I do think that CBS needs to just re-visit what
they're doing and get some legacy producers and writers back in the fold.

I actually enjoyed the Kelvin movies. That said, "The Orville" feels
more like Star Trek than anything coming out of Paramount or CBS lately.

Orville is great, and feels like ST:TNG, which is great. Discovery feels like the newer Star Trek movies however, and is just as good IMHO.

Have you watched Lower Decks yet? If you like Orville, don't miss Lower Decks.

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I've always been a Q fan as well, the new Quartermaster I
think is amazingly played. I really can't wait for this
film. I've always had a soft spot for James Bond flicks.

I've always enjoyed the opening scenes just before the theme
song. I saw The Spy Who Loved Me in theatre. The opening
skiing sequence was amazing. The jump off the cliff was a
total surprise and the filming made it feel a bit like the
first roller coaster drop at that top.

The theme song with the animations of yummy ladies dancing
around with guns is bit of fun too.


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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 10 2020 02:46 am

I think Discovery and Picard's "feel" has more to do with how
television i consumed now days. Deep Space Nine really pioneered the
whole serialized st thing, Enterprise ramped it up a bit, but now
with streaming services and binge-watching, all anyone cares about is
serialized shows. Things like Bla Mirror stand out partially because
they're stand-alone stories.

I'm really digging Lower Decks. It's smart, funny, and definitely has
a TNG feel to it.

I don't know, I think there is a lot of room for standalones. My Little Pony FiM, for example, was very successful and, while it features a metaplot, its episodes are... episodic in nature.

Yes, I'm sure it's great if you're a 7 year old girl.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Android8675 to Tracker1 on Thu Sep 10 2020 07:10 am

Orville is great, and feels like ST:TNG, which is great. Discovery feels like the newer Star Trek movies however, and is just as good IMHO.

Have you watched Lower Decks yet? If you like Orville, don't miss Lower Decks.

Lower Decks is great. Every episode seems to knock it out of the park. Just the right amount of callbacks, references, and humor, while still being recognizable as Star Trek.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: DaiTengu to Arelor on Sun Sep 13 2020 12:45 am

Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 10 2020 02:46 am

I think Discovery and Picard's "feel" has more to do with how
television i consumed now days. Deep Space Nine really pioneered the
whole serialized st thing, Enterprise ramped it up a bit, but now
with streaming services and binge-watching, all anyone cares about is
serialized shows. Things like Bla Mirror stand out partially because
they're stand-alone stories.

I'm really digging Lower Decks. It's smart, funny, and definitely has
a TNG feel to it.

I don't know, I think there is a lot of room for standalones. My Little Pony FiM, for example, was very successful and, while it features a metaplot, its episodes are... episodic in nature.

Yes, I'm sure it's great if you're a 7 year old girl.

DaiTengu

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Whether it is intended for 7 years old or 77 years old doe snot matter as much as the fect you can still make series under that format.

Also TV stations like episodes that work as standalones becaus ethat way then can schedule them the way they want them.

Also the first two seasons were great even if you were not a 7 years old girl but whatever :-P

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DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

It's not free, It's an extra $30 or something on top of your Disney+ subscription. And it's not because things "went poorly" it's because that's how movies are being released now.

Disney-anything isn't worth anything anymore. The Lefties there ruined that company.

1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.

For some reason, I thought that they did. But it's not relevant. Star Trek is owned by CBS/Viacom and they are just as Woke.

2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough? are
you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an action flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour long
giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

There's an "old" saying: Get Woke. Go Broke.

The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.


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Nightfox wrote to Tracker1 <=-

I've heard many people liked Roger Moore as James Bond. I don't
remember if I've seen his Bond movies though - maybe just parts. My favorite was Pierse Brosnan.

My favorite was always Sean Connery.

Roger Moore was OK, but I think the writing for his movies moved away from spy/thriller and more toward sex/gadgets.

When I watched them later on, I found I hated the Roger Moore movies.

I did like Pierce Brosnan as Bond. I thought he did a good job, but Sean Connery still beats him.


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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Sun Sep 13 2020 09:52 am

Disney-anything isn't worth anything anymore. The Lefties there ruined that company.

The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films I've seen in the last 20 years.

1. Disney doesn't own Star Trek.

For some reason, I thought that they did. But it's not relevant. Star Trek is owned by CBS/Viacom and they are just as Woke.

Show me on the doll where Stephen Colbert touched you.

2. You're whining about modern trek not being militarized enough?
are you fucking serious? Watching modern Trek is like watching an
action flick. The last episode of Season 2 of Discovery was an hour
long giant space battle that put anything BSG ever did to shame.

There's an "old" saying: Get Woke. Go Broke.

It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking in the dough. 13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are Dinsey flicks. CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's an abject failure and no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it, right?

The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.

Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:16 pm

The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.

Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:16 pm

The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films I've see in the last 20 years.

I beg to differ.

Some of them were quite good, but they are obviously jumping this badwagon of replacing good plots with cringeworthy humor and an overload of computer generated effects.

I myself think there has been a decline in quality since the first Avengers movie.

By the time they were campaigning against white heterosexual males I had already lost interest in the franchise.
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The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films
I've seen in the last 20 years.

They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into Woke-ness.

It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
in the dough.

*Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost big and has
been losing for quite some time.

13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are
Dinsey flicks.

A quick Google search shows othewise.

CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's
an abject failure and no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it,
right?

Because Lefties never admit their mistakes and always double down on their bad decisions. That's why "Get Woke, Go Broke" is a fact.


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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Wed Sep 16 2020 09:42 pm

The last several Star Trek incarnations have been awful.

Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.

"Everything you're doing is bad. I want you to know this." - Museum keeper from Ghostbusters 2

I was paraphrasing Zoidberg from Futurama ;)

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 03:19 am

The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films
I've see in the last 20 years.

I beg to differ.

Some of them were quite good, but they are obviously jumping this badwagon of replacing good plots with cringeworthy humor and an overload of computer generated effects.

I myself think there has been a decline in quality since the first Avengers movie.

By the time they were campaigning against white heterosexual males I had already lost interest in the franchise.

Differ all you want. The numbers don't lie. People enjoy the hell out of those flicks.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: DaiTengu to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 2020 09:15 am

Differ all you want. The numbers don't lie. People enjoy the hell out of those flicks.

Numbers are no proof of quality. Saying that a film is good because everybody is watching it is like saying Windows Vista is great because everybody was using it back in the day. Current Marketing techniques ensure that crappy products can get great profits as long as they are backed by a corporation with big wallets.
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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 08:44 am

The Marvel flicks have been some of the best, most enjoyable films
I've seen in the last 20 years.

They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into Woke-ness.

Stan was quite "Woke". He talked extensively about inclusiveness and racism.

It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
in the dough.

*Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost big and has
been losing for quite some time.

It never made it to theaters in the US. It did better in China than Aladdin, and did quite well in Thailand.

Disney+ has not released numbers. So claiming it "Tanked" is your attempt at trying to spin a narritive based on a large number of circumstances.

13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are
Dinsey flicks.

A quick Google search shows othewise.

You're right, it's 14:

(Top 20 grossing films of all time, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films )

Avengers: Endgame - Disney
Avatar
Titanic
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Disney
Avengers: Infinity War - Disney
Jurassic World
The Lion King - Disney
The Avengers - Disney
Furious 7 - Disney
Frozen II - Disney
Avengers: Age of Ultron - Disney
Black Panther - Disney
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Disney
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Frozen - Disney
Beauty and the Beast - Disney
Incredibles 2 - Disney
The Fate of the Furious
Iron Man 3 - Disney

CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's
an abject failure and no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it,
right?

Because Lefties never admit their mistakes and always double down on their bad decisions. That's why "Get Woke, Go Broke" is a fact.

"fact" ? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:58 am

(Top 20 grossing films of all time, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films )

Avengers: Endgame - Disney
Avatar
Titanic
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Disney
Avengers: Infinity War - Disney
Jurassic World
The Lion King - Disney
The Avengers - Disney
Furious 7 - Disney
Frozen II - Disney
Avengers: Age of Ultron - Disney
Black Panther - Disney
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Disney
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Frozen - Disney
Beauty and the Beast - Disney
Incredibles 2 - Disney
The Fate of the Furious
Iron Man 3 - Disney

I am curious as to how many of those contain deliberate virtual signaling or political propaganda. Also The Last Jedi was made by Lucas Films well before Disney borged it in so it doesn't really count.
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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 08:46 am

Differ all you want. The numbers don't lie. People enjoy the hell
out of those flicks.

Numbers are no proof of quality. Saying that a film is good because everybody is watching it is like saying Windows Vista is great because everybody was using it back in the day. Current Marketing techniques ensure that crappy products can get great profits as long as they are backed by a corporation with big wallets.

I don't care for the Fast & Furious films, but there's no denying people do like them, and that they're making big bank.

"good" in the terms of filmography is subjective. If you don't like a movie, fine. But in the grand scheme of things, it's all about how much money it makes.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:08 am

I am curious as to how many of those contain deliberate virtual signaling or political propaganda. Also The Last Jedi was made by Lucas Films well before Disney borged it in so it doesn't really count.

Disney bought Lucasfilm in 2012. The Last Jedi came out in 2017.

I bet you get picked last for Trivia night, don't you?

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:58 am

(Top 20 grossing films of all time, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films )

Avengers: Endgame - Disney
Avatar
Titanic
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Disney
Avengers: Infinity War - Disney
Jurassic World
The Lion King - Disney
The Avengers - Disney
Furious 7 - Disney
Frozen II - Disney
Avengers: Age of Ultron - Disney
Black Panther - Disney
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Disney
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Frozen - Disney
Beauty and the Beast - Disney
Incredibles 2 - Disney
The Fate of the Furious
Iron Man 3 - Disney

I am curious as to how many of those contain deliberate virtual
signaling or political propaganda. Also The Last Jedi was made by Lucas Films well before Disney borged it in so it doesn't really count.

And all the Avengers films were made by Marvel Studios. Although owned by Disney since 2009, they really didn't get merged until 2015. So that knocks out some of those too (Iron Man 3, The Avengers). I really enjoyed the early Marvel films, but the later ones just weren't that entertaining. I Goodwilled many of the later ones or never bothered to purchase them.

Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.


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They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into Woke-ness.

With Stan or not, it's just too much Marvel to me. There was a moment that it totally dominated the cinema new releases worth considering and hid in shadows anything else you could only discover via online streaming or niche theaters.

After 20+ movies (including tv-shows) I've started perceiving Marvel as Brazilian love-story soap opera kind of thing. Episode 12351, Joe visits a mall and talks about the experience for half of a show...

I stopped going to cinemas when I just got sick of Marvel and Star Wars all together. Netflix and my own dvd collection helped me maintain the feeling that movies are still relevant to inspire with something new

It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
in the dough.

*Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie
Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost big
and has been losing for quite some time.

13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are
Dinsey flicks.

Funny, at work a friend told me that he just subscribed to Disney+ and asked me if I have done that as well and what kind of sentimental Disney movie guy I'm.

What a suprise when I told him that I'm not a "disney" guy, I'm more Hanna Barbea guy when we talk about classics and I don't care about what Disney does these days as much as I'm curious about smaller/indie studios.

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Numbers are no proof of quality. Saying that a film is good because everybody is watching it is like saying Windows Vista is great because everybody was using it back in the day. Current Marketing techniques ensure that crappy products can get great profits as long as they are backed by a corporation with big wallets.

I don't care for the Fast & Furious films, but there's no denying
people do like them, and that they're making big bank.

"good" in the terms of filmography is subjective. If you don't like a movie, fine. But in the grand scheme of things, it's all about how much money it makes.

"Hackers" from 95 with A. Jolie did not make its revenue targets back in the days, today it's a total classic. I don't think anybody will remember How many parts of Fast and Furious were out there 10 years from now. (aside of the fact that some are enjoyable movies, if you have no expectations)

Stat is stat, souless shit at the end. More people connected on the internet andtalking on the same platform are helping you realize we're all dumb idiots.. ain't that the reason why we're escaping to BBSes?

Same with movies.. more viewers don't make them memorable classics so I agree iwth above.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: hollowone to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:31 pm

What a suprise when I told him that I'm not a "disney" guy, I'm more Hanna Barbea guy when we talk about classics and I don't care about what Disney do these days as much as I'm curious about smaller/indie studios.

I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on classics. There are thousands of hours of recorded films already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made. Specially if big producers are going to rehash the same ideas again and again and again.
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** On Saturday 19.09.20 - 19:30, arelor wrote to hollowone:

I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself
gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on
classics. There are thousands of hours of recorded films
already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made.
Specially if big producers are going to rehash the same
ideas again and again and again.

New producers love to create or rehash their versions using
younger actors or use newer film techologies. It will never
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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to hollowone on Sat Sep 19 2020 04:30 pm

I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on classics. There are thousands of hours of recorded films already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made. Specially if big producers are going to rehash the same ideas again and again and again.

The classics are good, but sometimes you might find yourself wanting to watch something you haven't seen before.
Similarly for music, I've listened to classic rock for a long time, and I have a lot of old favorites, but occasionally I feel like I don't want to listen to something I've listened to possibly hundreds of times already (exaggerating).

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:16 pm

New producers love to create or rehash their versions using
younger actors or use newer film techologies. It will never
end.

What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them
to the screen.
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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sat Sep 19 2020 08:47 pm

Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to hollowone on Sat Sep 19 2020 04:30 pm

I don't want to sound snob but I have found myself gravitating from more mainstream works and focusing on classics. The
are thousands of hours of recorded films already, I don't feel like I need more films to be made. Specially if big
producers are going to rehash the same ideas again and again and again.

The classics are good, but sometimes you might find yourself wanting to watch something you haven't seen before.
Similarly for music, I've listened to classic rock for a long time, and I have a lot of old favorites, but occasionally I fe
like I don't want to listen to something I've listened to possibly hundreds of times already (exaggerating).

Nightfox

Here is the thing, you can buy a 50 or 100 film pack from the black and white era for cheap... lots of Boris Karloff and Bela
Lugosy and company. It will take years to go through such a collection, and you will be watching lots of things you have never
watched before.

But yeah I guess going THAT hipster is not for everybody.

Also, I like rediscovering oldies. I redidn't consder myself a sucker for classical rock but I came into some Rainbow and Black
Sabath stuff early this year and it blew my mind.
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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Arelor to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 2020 02:41 am

Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:16 pm

New producers love to create or rehash their versions using
younger actors or use newer film techologies. It will never
end.

What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them to the screen.

they dont think new ideas work. look at all the superhero movies. that's the business now. if you dont put on tights, they might not have work.

read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written and just a framework for them to build on.

i havent seen a good movie in over 5 years.

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hollowone wrote to DaiTengu <=-

"Hackers" from 95 with A. Jolie did not make its revenue targets back
in the days, today it's a total classic.

Mel Brooks was on a podcast called "How did this get made?", a
movie podcast. He talked about "Solar Babies", a movie his company
did in 1986. It went from a $5M movie funded by Mel's friends, to
needing an additional $5M from the bank, to Mel putting his house as
collateral for another $5M because of production issues and poor
planning.

It flopped in the theaters, but became a campy cult classic. Mel said
that the movie finally broke even, in 2012 or so.

It's worth finding the podcast episode, Mel Brooks is hilarious in
it.



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Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-

What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It
is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them to the screen.

It's all algorithm- and profit-driven, and risk averse. Why take a
risk on a cerebral project when you can get a guaranteed return on a
reboot of a remake of a movie based on a comic book?




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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Sep 20 2020 11:00 am

they dont think new ideas work. look at all the superhero movies. that's the business now. if you dont put on tights, they might not have work.

read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written and just a framework for them to build on.

i havent seen a good movie in over 5 years.

I'm also not a huge fan of superhero movies, and I get tired of seeing all the superhero releases they're making these days.

What kind of movies do you like? I think there are some interesting ones here and there. If you like sci-fi, I think Predestination (2014) was good. It's a time ravel movie, and I know time travel has been done a lot, but it has a twist. For comedy, I thought "Always Be My Maybe" was fairly good. It's a romantic comedy, and I know it might not be everyone's thing though.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Sep 20 2020 12:15 pm

read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly
written and just a framework for them to build on.

i havent seen a good movie in over 5 years.

I'm also not a huge fan of superhero movies, and I get tired of seeing all the superhero releases they're making these days.

What kind of movies do you like? I think there are some interesting ones here and there. If you like sci-fi, I think Predestination (2014) was

yeah, i liked predestination. i caught onto what they were doing pretty quick though. i think mindfuck movies usually.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Dr. What to Arelor on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:23 pm

Disney since 2009, they really didn't get merged until 2015. So that knocks out some of those too (Iron Man 3, The Avengers). I really enjoyed the early Marvel films, but the later ones just weren't that entertaining. I Goodwilled many of the later ones or never bothered to purchase them.

Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.

go look up that infographic about what disney owns.

they own like 85% of the planet.
they do everything. all kinds of dumb shit, too. https://storage.googleapis.com/titlemax-media/1c8ace8f-every-company-disney-own s-13_pageversion-lg.jpg



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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: hollowone to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:31 pm

They were. Until Stan Lee died and the films took a Left turn into
Woke-ness.

With Stan or not, it's just too much Marvel to me. There was a moment that it totally dominated the cinema new releases worth considering and hid in shadows anything else you could only discover via online streaming or niche theaters.

stan lee did jack shit for marvel for decades. he provided no direction.

After 20+ movies (including tv-shows) I've started perceiving Marvel as Brazilian love-story soap opera kind of thing. Episode 12351, Joe visits a mall and talks about the experience for half of a show...

I stopped going to cinemas when I just got sick of Marvel and Star Wars all together. Netflix and my own dvd collection helped me maintain the feeling that movies are still relevant to inspire with something new

It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking
in the dough.

*Laugh* You need to get your news from something other than Leftie
Media. Mulan, for example, tanked at the box office. Disney lost
big and has been losing for quite some time.

Funny, at work a friend told me that he just subscribed to Disney+ and asked me if I have done that as well and what kind of sentimental Disney movie guy I'm.

disney owns us all!

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What grinds my gears is that there are actual new ideas out there. It
is just lots of producers are choosing not to take them to the screen.

Yes, still a lot of great books to adapt to the screen, and in theory, possibilities are limited by the inagination (literally!). :)


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hollowone wrote to Dr. What <=-

What a suprise when I told him that I'm not a "disney" guy, I'm more
Hanna Barbea guy when we talk about classics and I don't care about
what Disney does these days as much as I'm curious about smaller/indie studios.

My dad's generation grew up on Disney and I enjoyed what little I was exposed to. But I grew up on Hanna/Barbera too and that's where my loyalties lie.

Many of the Disney stuff was pretty dated by the time that I saw it and, while fairly entertaining, really didn't resonate with me.


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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: MRO to Dr. What on Sun Sep 20 2020 11:13 pm

Disney since 2009, they really didn't get merged until 2015. So that
knocks out some of those too (Iron Man 3, The Avengers). I really
enjoyed the early Marvel films, but the later ones just weren't that
entertaining. I Goodwilled many of the later ones or never bothered
to purchase them.

Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.

go look up that infographic about what disney owns.

they own like 85% of the planet.
they do everything. all kinds of dumb shit, too. https://storage.googleapis.com/titlemax-media/1c8ace8f-every-company-disne y-own s-13_pageversion-lg.jpg

I know MRO won't see this, but I'm totally reminded of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBJIZ1NXFU

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MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written
and just a framework for them to build on.

I had a friend who made decent money writing screenplays as a side
hustle. I swear that her strategy was to check as many boxes as
possible to convince a studio to option it just to prevent any legal
action when another script is made into a movie with some of the
elements that my friend put in hers.

It must have worked, she made mid-5 figures writing after dinner.



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done a lot, but it has a twist. For comedy, I thought "Always Be My Maybe" was fairly good. It's a romantic comedy, and I know it might
not be everyone's thing though.

I liked it, too. Filmed in a lot of my old San Francisco haunts, so I
liked seeing the places I used to go. I used to walk past the building
where they went to dinner with Keanu, if memory serves it's actually a
museum.



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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Dr. What to hollowone on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:50 am

My dad's generation grew up on Disney and I enjoyed what little I was exposed to. But I grew up on Hanna/Barbera too and that's where my loyalties lie.

Many of the Disney stuff was pretty dated by the time that I saw it and, while fairly entertaining, really didn't resonate with me.

You make it sound like Disney is old news.. Disney is still around and producing movies.

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Everything that Disney touches now, it ruins.

Year ago I purchased a book about Disney's CEO responsible for all these mergers, trying to sell a great leadership story in corporate world to revive the old brand and head it into a new era.

Self promotional biography. I started reading it. I did not have much time for reading lately so 400 pages or so took like forever.

In the middle of that "great" book and a few months later the guy.. the successful guy got fired. Difficult to understand when you were in the book.

But reality check is sad. They've acquired a lot interesting brands but sucked it up to its internal black holed culture to copy cat itself.

I really enjoyed Marvel at the beginning and I was sort of waiting for SW continuation.

It's all find for kids, maybe that's the target audience, new generation to meet the same shit we think we had already seen better.

But still I'm not buying it.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: hollowone to DaiTengu on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:33 pm

It's all find for kids, maybe that's the target audience, new generation to meet the same shit we think we had already seen better.

Actually I think that is a stated strategy.

Disney has something they call The Vault. They keep ideas there and onl¤y market them once per generation. They will sell Peter Pan for kids today, and then stop marketing it and nearly wipe its existence until enough time has passed. Then they will try to sell it to the new kids, who will regard it as a new thing.

What is painful is they are borging franchises that were no Disney's in the begining and shoehorning them into being apt for new kids.
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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:02 am

MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

read some screenplays. they are total garbage. they are poorly written and just a framework for them to build on.

I had a friend who made decent money writing screenplays as a side
hustle. I swear that her strategy was to check as many boxes as
possible to convince a studio to option it just to prevent any legal
action when another script is made into a movie with some of the
elements that my friend put in hers.

It must have worked, she made mid-5 figures writing after dinner.

... "Well, you were right about this being a bad idea."

It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for the
Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turning away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written well before the fan submitted his script.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 03:23 pm

It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for the Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turning away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written well before the fan submitted his script.

dave chapelle mentioned something like this. a guy sent in an idea about something they were already going to do. they paid him so he wouldnt sue.

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It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for
the Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turning away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas
for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written
well before the fan submitted his script.

Totally! I could imagine a fanfic-heavy franchise like Star Trek
getting a ton of submissions. Considering some of the heavyweights
writing for TOS, they wouldn't necessarily need them.



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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:40 pm

Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 03:23 pm

It was either Dave Gerrold or DC Fontana on the commentary track for th Start Trek Animated Series box set who mentioned something about turnin away viewer authored scripts because of the mess the studio had with people trying to get credit for writing less than original ideas for stories the in house writers already discussed, or have written well before the fan submitted his script.

dave chapelle mentioned something like this. a guy sent in an idea about so

Even though they intentionally avoided fan letters and submissions, there are so many cliches in science fiction and mainstream story telling that someone could easily come up with the same plot independently. That would sure be
hard to fight in court unless the writers had good documentation to mark when and how stories were fleshed out.

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Hello Moondog!

** On Tuesday 22.09.20 - 20:39, moondog wrote to MRO:

...because of the mess the studio had with people
trying to get credit for writing less than original
ideas for stories the in house writers already
discussed, or have written well before the fan
submitted his script.

Even though they intentionally avoided fan letters and
submissions, there are so many cliches in science fiction
and mainstream story telling that someone could easily
come up with the same plot independently. That would sure
be hard to fight in court unless the writers had good
documentation to mark when and how stories were fleshed
out.

Even records like that can be faked or back-dated.

Some time ago I read that one way to prove such submissions is
to send a copy of a script to yourself via register mail - and
NOT open it. Should the claim for original authorship arise
in court, the registered letter if opened by the judge would
help settle the matter.

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You make it sound like Disney is old news.. Disney is still around and producing movies.

Disney is old news. They are mainly buying new talent (ex: Pixar, Lucasfilm) for their new movies. Then they force the talented people out and ruin
the genre (ex: Star Wars) and are left with garbage.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Ogg to All on Wed Sep 23 2020 08:54 am

Hello Moondog!

** On Tuesday 22.09.20 - 20:39, moondog wrote to MRO:

...because of the mess the studio had with people
trying to get credit for writing less than original
ideas for stories the in house writers already
discussed, or have written well before the fan
submitted his script.

Even though they intentionally avoided fan letters and
submissions, there are so many cliches in science fiction
and mainstream story telling that someone could easily
come up with the same plot independently. That would sure
be hard to fight in court unless the writers had good
documentation to mark when and how stories were fleshed
out.

Even records like that can be faked or back-dated.

Some time ago I read that one way to prove such submissions is
to send a copy of a script to yourself via register mail - and
NOT open it. Should the claim for original authorship arise
in court, the registered letter if opened by the judge would
help settle the matter.

I've heard of that. In the movie Game Show, a former contestant proved the ga me show he was on gave out answers by making a copy and mailing them to himsel f to get the postmark.

The majority of TNG's first season was re-writes of leftover scripts and
story ideas from TOS. Some even carried over to the animated series in the early 1970's.

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Re: Re: James Bond update
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Sep 20 2020 12:15 pm

yeah, i liked predestination. i caught onto what they were doing pretty quick though. i think mindfuck movies usually.

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That was a good movie filmed in Australia.

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