• Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)

    From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 03:31:56 2020
    Re: Re: James Bond update
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:16 pm

    There's an "old" saying: Get Woke. Go Broke.

    It can be a saying. It's obviously not true. Disney films are raking in the dough. 13 out of the top 20 grosssing films of all time, are Dinsey flicks. CBS/Viacom is producing more Star Trek, because .. it's an abject failure a no one's watching it? Yeah, that must be it, right?

    I don't think going SJW and campaigning against the biggest percentage of your target audience equals going broke. But it is not good finantially either.

    Most people I know didn't use to care much, and I'd say it was safe for a film producer, literary magazine or RPG publisher to inject vast loads of political propaganda. The target audience they were attacking would complain but still buy their products.

    Now I am detecting large amounts of people I know personally who is dropping comic series, films, games etc. because they are getting fed up with political propaganda that attempts to demonize them.

    I bet many of those franchises are still making a profit. But I also bet they are making LESS of a profit. And an increasing number is gonna make it to red numbers.

    I mean, do you really expect that injecting Feminist propaganda in your RPG line, who is bought by white-heterosexual males in their 30s and 40s, won't cause a bit of a problem to the publisher?
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 09:21:45 2020
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 03:31 am

    I don't think going SJW and campaigning against the biggest percentage of your target audience equals going broke. But it is not good finantially either.

    I haven't seen signs of them "campaigning against" white, heterosexual males. I've only seen signs of them trying to include a representation of those who are not white, heterosexual males.

    Most people I know didn't use to care much, and I'd say it was safe for a film producer, literary magazine or RPG publisher to inject vast loads of political propaganda. The target audience they were attacking would complain but still buy their products.

    The people you know are in the minority. Congratulations, you've been marginalized. How does it feel?

    DaiTengu

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 08:57:14 2020
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: DaiTengu to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 2020 09:21 am

    I haven't seen signs of them "campaigning against" white, heterosexual male I've only seen signs of them trying to include a representation of those who are not white, heterosexual males.

    For starters, Black Panther had a big ideologial background according to which whites sucked and owed black people, and such concept was repeated more than once, taken for granted by the main characters, and presented as undeniable truth.

    Bonus points because if they had reversed the roles, everybody would have screamed bloody nazism, and rightly so. Imagine if I pop up and write a story about a civilized country of whites who manages to survive the barbarian niggars by hidding so then can't be found, and ensuring niggars can't enter. The movie is racist, is based on racism, it is unapologetic and barely better than Birth of a Nation.


    Racism is not good just because your friends are doing the campaigning.

    By the way, it looks to me that you are the one who is alone defending your position here, not me, so next time you try to make somebody feel marginalized ensure you are not the marginalized person.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 13:01:45 2020
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 2020 08:57 am

    I haven't seen signs of them "campaigning against" white, heterosexual
    male I've only seen signs of them trying to include a representation
    of those who are not white, heterosexual males.

    For starters, Black Panther had a big ideologial background according to which whites sucked and owed black people, and such concept was repeated more than once, taken for granted by the main characters, and presented as undeniable truth.

    It's been awhile since I've seen that film, but I don't recall any of that.


    By the way, it looks to me that you are the one who is alone defending your position here, not me, so next time you try to make somebody feel marginalized ensure you are not the marginalized person.

    Hey buddy, If I'm marginalizing you, I'm marginalizing me, too. Maybe we should spend some time as the minority, see how it feels. You might have some fucking compassion, then.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Arelor@VERT to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 14:02:45 2020
    Re: Go Woke, Go Broke (was James Bond Update)
    By: DaiTengu to Arelor on Thu Sep 17 2020 01:01 pm

    Hey buddy, If I'm marginalizing you, I'm marginalizing me, too. Maybe we should spend some time as the minority, see how it feels. You might have som fucking compassion, then.

    With all due respect, you know nothing about me. I could as well have been marginalized due to social circumpstances and have not had a proper childhood.

    In which case I would be VERY angry because what passes for justice today is using newspeak or blaming a demographic group I belong to of things I am no responsible off whatsoever, instead of solving real discrimination. You know, the one in which people is harassed or beaten because their parents vote Joe instead of Jack.

    Then I'd also point out that being marginalized is the quickest way of killing any fucking compassion you might want to show to anybody, because people are fucking monsters that deserve no compassion at all.

    But if that was the case I would not bring it to the Entertainment sub. I'd rather post it as a theoretical scenario.
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